Councillors from Dijon, Eastern France, March 2022

[Tooting Carmen]

I have a friend from there. On this occasion, I shall include those with French and German surnames together, as this is not far from the German and Swiss borders.

White (French and German surnames)

https://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/rebsamen_2020_05_8/447625-1-fre-FR/REBSAMEN_2020_05_8_image-xs.jpg(The Mayor)
https://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/koenders-nathalie_/445818-1-fre-FR/KOENDERS-Nathalie__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/deseille_/445822-1-fre-FR/Deseille__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/martin-christine_/445902-1-fre-FR/MARTIN-Christine__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/pribetich-pierre_/445826-1-fre-FR/PRIBETICH-Pierre__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/hoareau-antoine_/445842-1-fre-FR/HOAREAU-Antoine__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/lehenoff-franck_/445850-1-fre-FR/LEHENOFF-Franck__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/martin-gendre-dominique_/445858-1-fre-FR/Martin-Gendre-Dominique__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/berthier-christophe_/445862-1-fre-FR/BERTHIER-Christophe__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/bataille-kildine_/445874-1-fre-FR/BATAILLE-Kildine__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/bordat-benoit_/445878-1-fre-FR/BORDAT-Benoit__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/pfander-meny-lydie_/445890-1-fre-FR/PFANDER-MENY-Lydie__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/mekhantar-joel_/445894-1-fre-FR/MEKHANTAR-Joel__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/charret-godard-oceane_2/445906-1-fre-FR/CHARRET-GODARD-Oceane__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/chollet-marie-odile_/445966-1-fre-FR/Chollet-Marie-Odile__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/durand-jean-paul_/445982-1-fre-FR/DURAND-Jean-Paul__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/masson-jean-patrick_/445922-1-fre-FR/MASSON-Jean-Patrick__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/tenenbaum-francoise_/445938-1-fre-FR/TENENBAUM-Francoise__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/vacherot-stephanie_/445918-1-fre-FR/Vacherot-stephanie__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/courgey-jean-francois_/445954-1-fre-FR/COURGEY-Jean-Francois__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/lemanceau-philippe_/445910-1-fre-FR/Lemanceau-Philippe__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/juban-danielle_/445926-1-fre-FR/JUBAN-Danielle__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/morel-jean-philippe_/445930-1-fre-FR/MOREL-Jean-Philippe__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/juillard-randrian__/445934-1-fre-FR/Juillard-randrian___image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/haegy-david_/445962-1-fre-FR/Haegy-David__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/balson-melanie_/445978-1-fre-FR/BALSON-Melanie__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/revel-elizabeth2/485184-1-fre-FR/REVEL-Elizabeth_image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/du-tertre-catherine_/445990-1-fre-FR/DU-TERTRE-Catherine__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/bichot-emmanuel_/446022-1-fre-FR/Bichot-Emmanuel__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/jacquemard-caroline_/446026-1-fre-FR/JACQUEMARD-Caroline__image-xs.jpg
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White Other

https://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/zivkovic-sladana_/445830-1-fre-FR/Zivkovic-Sladana__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/tomaselli-claire_/445838-1-fre-FR/TOMASELLI-Claire__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/lovichi-marien_/445870-1-fre-FR/LOVICHI-Marien__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/blaya-delphine_/445882-1-fre-FR/BLAYA-Delphine__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/avena-christophe_2/445886-1-fre-FR/Avena-Christophe__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/testori-vincent_/445970-1-fre-FR/TESTORI-Vincent__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/monteiro-ludmila_/445958-1-fre-FR/Monteiro-Ludmila__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/savina-karine_/446006-1-fre-FR/SAVINA-Karine__image-xs.jpg

Armenian

https://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/akpinar-istiquam-nuray_2/445846-1-fre-FR/AKPINAR-ISTIQUAM-Nuray__image-xs.jpg

North African

https://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/el-hassouni-hamid_/445834-1-fre-FR/EL-HASSOUNI-Hamid__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/belhadef-nadjoua_/445866-1-fre-FR/BELHADEF-Nadjoua__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/amiri-bassir_/445994-1-fre-FR/AMIRI-Bassir__image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/el-mesdadi-nora_/445986-1-fre-FR/EL-MESDADI-Nora__image-xs.jpg

Black

https://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-metro/dijon-metropole/hameau-denis/448544-1-fre-FR/HAMEAU-Denis_image-xs.jpghttps://www.dijon.fr/var/www/storage/images/mediatheque/grand-dijon-et-ville-de-dijon/images-dijon/vie-municipale/mezui-georges_/445942-1-fre-FR/Mezui-Georges__image-xs.jpg

[Oliver109]

As a set these look similar to the ones from Paris showing that ethnic French phenotypes are distinct from British ones because the faces tend to be smaller, more alpinised though several still pass easily in the UK.

[Tooting Carmen]

As a set these look similar to the ones from Paris showing that ethnic French phenotypes are distinct from British ones because the faces tend to be smaller, more alpinised though several still pass easily in the UK.

How much similarity would you say there is to Germans? (And for argument's sake, Spaniards and Italians?)

[Oliver109]

How much similarity would you say there is to Germans? (And for argument's sake, Spaniards and Italians?)

A few Bavarian looking ones i think, especially the mayor, probably quite a few pass in Italy, these dont look that Spanish, they tend to be less alpinised as a group.

[Oliver109]

Though there is a real absence of squareish German heads which suggests little faelid or borreby influence.

[Tooting Carmen]

Though there is a real absence of squareish German heads which suggests little faelid or borreby influence.

Yeah it is notable how even French people from the regions close to Britain and/or Germany still, at least to those with trained eyes, look distinct from their neighbours.

[Latinus]

They look very... French! I think some can fit in Britain or Germany (more in the latter, I think), but as a group, they look distinct from these two Germanic nations.

[Tooting Carmen]

They look very... French! I think some can fit in Britain or Germany (more in the latter, I think), but as a group, they look distinct from these two Germanic nations.

France is its own unique blend of Northern, Central and Southern Europe rolled into one. Think of it as le grand entrepot europeen.

[Latinus]

France is its own unique blend of Northern, Central and Southern Europe rolled into one. Think of it as le grand entrepot europeen.

But the thing is: who do they resemble more: Southern, Central or Northern Euros? Or most look just uniquely French in an anthrotard sense?

[Oliver109]

Yeah it is notable how even French people from the regions close to Britain and/or Germany still, at least to those with trained eyes, look distinct from their neighbours.

You need to do a Swiss set tbh! it would be interesting to see the differences, i was at the Swiss-English game on Sat and saw some Swiss fans, they looked very Germanic, tall but fairly tanned, i think they are a mix of French and German with more German elements.

[Tooting Carmen]

But the thing is: who do they resemble more: Southern, Central or Northern Euros? Or most look just uniquely French in an anthrotard sense?

They look all three at once, if that makes sense. Northern French people still have more Southern influences than do British and German people, while conversely Southern French people still have more Northern influences than do Spanish and Italian people.

[Tooting Carmen]

You need to do a Swiss set tbh! it would be interesting to see the differences, i was at the Swiss-English game on Sat and saw some Swiss fans, they looked very Germanic, tall but fairly tanned, i think they are a mix of French and German with more German elements.

I will do at some point. As an aside, could the two North African ladies pass as Iberian?

[Oliver109]

I will do at some point. As an aside, could the two North African ladies pass as Iberian?

Only the one on the second row