Roma Boyash/Rudar GEDmatch and Vahaduo results

[Impaler]

This guy scored huge West Asian on 23andMe + Iran as region. His tribe mixed a lot with Iranians and people from Black Sea region.

I guess my father ancestors were the same.

Eurogenes K13:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 26
2 West_Asian 25.97
3 East_Med 17.9
4 West_Med 16.06
5 Baltic 10.03
6 North_Atlantic 1.37
7 East_Asian 0.98
8 Amerindian 0.91
9 Northeast_African 0.54
10 Siberian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Tadjik 21.88
2 Afghan_Pashtun 22.19
3 Turkmen 23.21
4 Tadjik 23.35
5 Azeri 23.68
6 Pathan 23.86
7 Turkish 24.33
8 Iranian 24.42
9 Kurdish 25.59
10 Burusho 26.1
11 Kumyk 26.18
12 Kalash 27.08
13 Makrani 27.14
14 Punjabi_Jat 27.28
15 Sindhi 28.56
16 Armenian 28.89
17 Balkar 28.9
18 Kabardin 28.94
19 Adygei 29.08
20 Georgian_Jewish 29.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60% Pathan + 40% Algerian_Jewish @ 9.18
2 54.9% Punjabi_Jat + 45.1% Cyprian @ 9.67
3 52.4% Cyprian + 47.6% Gujarati @ 9.76
4 57.9% Pathan + 42.1% South_Italian @ 9.93
5 58.8% Pathan + 41.2% Cyprian @ 9.94
6 51.2% Cyprian + 48.8% Brahmin_UP @ 10.04
7 52.7% Cyprian + 47.3% Kshatriya @ 10.06
8 69.3% Pathan + 30.7% Sardinian @ 10.11
9 61.2% Pathan + 38.8% Italian_Jewish @ 10.11
10 55.1% Sindhi + 44.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 10.18
11 51.8% Sindhi + 48.2% Central_Greek @ 10.26
12 57.5% Pathan + 42.5% East_Sicilian @ 10.26
13 56.4% Punjabi_Jat + 43.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 10.35
14 53.7% Sindhi + 46.3% Ashkenazi @ 10.36
15 52.2% Sindhi + 47.8% East_Sicilian @ 10.36
16 57.1% Pathan + 42.9% Central_Greek @ 10.37
17 59% Pathan + 41% Ashkenazi @ 10.38
18 64.4% Turkish + 35.6% Dharkar @ 10.4
19 65.3% Turkish + 34.7% Kanjar @ 10.45
20 52.7% Sindhi + 47.3% South_Italian @ 10.46


Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 26.93
2 West_Asian 25.11
3 East_Med 15.58
4 West_Med 12.35
5 Baltic 8.44
6 Eastern_Euro 5.36
7 Atlantic 4.26
8 Southeast_Asian 0.8
9 Amerindian 0.7
10 Northeast_African 0.45
11 Red_Sea 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Makrani 16.27
2 Balochi 16.65
3 Brahui 16.96
4 Afghan_Pashtun 17.78
5 Turkmen 19.61
6 Tadjik 19.62
7 Afghan_Uzbeki 19.85
8 Afghan_Tadjik 20.29
9 Pathan 20.85
10 Kalash 22.35
11 Burusho 23.85
12 Sindhi 24.37
13 Azeri 24.47
14 Punjabi_Jat 24.7
15 Iranian 24.84
16 Turkish 25.42
17 Kurdish 25.68
18 Kumyk 27.43
19 Ashkenazi 29.91
20 Greek 30.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76% Brahui + 24% Sardinian @ 7.83
2 76.6% Balochi + 23.4% Sardinian @ 7.99
3 55.9% Sindhi + 44.1% Greek @ 8.77
4 56.9% Sindhi + 43.1% South_Italian @ 8.88
5 77.7% Makrani + 22.3% Sardinian @ 8.92
6 56% Sindhi + 44% Central_Greek @ 8.95
7 61.4% Pathan + 38.6% South_Italian @ 8.95
8 56.5% Sindhi + 43.5% East_Sicilian @ 9.36
9 63.4% Pathan + 36.6% Cyprian @ 9.45
10 60.7% Pathan + 39.3% Central_Greek @ 9.48
11 58.6% Punjabi_Jat + 41.4% Cyprian @ 9.54
12 64.1% Pathan + 35.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 9.6
13 61.2% Pathan + 38.8% East_Sicilian @ 9.64
14 60.7% Pathan + 39.3% Greek @ 9.64
15 56.2% Sindhi + 43.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 9.81
16 59% Sindhi + 41% Cyprian @ 9.93
17 63.6% Pathan + 36.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 10.02
18 64.2% Pathan + 35.8% Italian_Jewish @ 10.03
19 60% Turkish + 40% Kshatriya @ 10.04
20 55.9% Sindhi + 44.1% Ashkenazi @ 10.12


Dodecad K12b:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.58
2 South_Asian 21.78
3 Gedrosia 14.4
4 North_European 12.9
5 Atlantic_Med 11.62
6 Southwest_Asian 6.08
7 Siberian 0.94
8 Southeast_Asian 0.9
9 Northwest_African 0.57
10 East_African 0.24

Target: Boyash_K12b
Distance: 1.6366% / 1.63664678 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.5 Balkan_Gypsy
22.1 Abkhazian
4.1 Bhunjia
3.3 North_Kannadi


HarappaWorld:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 29.87
2 S-Indian 20.94
3 Baloch 16.93
4 Mediterranean 12.61
5 NE-Euro 11.87
6 SW-Asian 4.95
7 Siberian 1.74
8 American 0.52
9 SE-Asian 0.32
10 San 0.1
11 E-African 0.09
12 Pygmy 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-b (behar) 5.76
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 20.33
3 bene-israel-jew (behar) 21.24
4 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 21.38
5 pashtun (harappa) 21.79
6 turkish (harappa) 22.65
7 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 23.13
8 azeri (harappa) 23.25
9 iranian (harappa) 23.33
10 kurd (harappa) 23.79
11 tajik (yunusbayev) 23.88
12 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 23.93
13 iranian (behar) 24.13
14 turk (behar) 24.38
15 stalskoe (xing) 25.14
16 iraqi-arab (harappa) 25.42
17 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 25.61
18 armenian (harappa) 25.62
19 nogai (yunusbayev) 25.93
20 ashkenazi (harappa) 26.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.8% romanian-b (behar) + 15.2% iranian (harappa) @ 4.02
2 91% romanian-b (behar) + 9% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 4.06
3 91.5% romanian-b (behar) + 8.5% georgian (behar) @ 4.13
4 88.1% romanian-b (behar) + 11.9% lezgin (behar) @ 4.18
5 86.9% romanian-b (behar) + 13.1% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 4.18
6 89.2% romanian-b (behar) + 10.8% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 4.21
7 85.4% romanian-b (behar) + 14.6% azeri (harappa) @ 4.23
8 87.5% romanian-b (behar) + 12.5% kurd (xing) @ 4.24
9 87.3% romanian-b (behar) + 12.7% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 4.29
10 89.3% romanian-b (behar) + 10.7% adygei (hgdp) @ 4.29
11 85.9% romanian-b (behar) + 14.1% kurd (harappa) @ 4.3
12 89.1% romanian-b (behar) + 10.9% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 4.34
13 88.8% romanian-b (behar) + 11.2% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 4.35
14 86.4% romanian-b (behar) + 13.6% iranian (behar) @ 4.38
15 84.5% romanian-b (behar) + 15.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 4.47
16 89.8% romanian-b (behar) + 10.2% armenian (behar) @ 4.52
17 89.1% romanian-b (behar) + 10.9% urkarah (xing) @ 4.53
18 86.5% romanian-b (behar) + 13.5% turkish (harappa) @ 4.6
19 87.7% romanian-b (behar) + 12.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 4.61
20 89.7% romanian-b (behar) + 10.3% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.71

Distance to: Boyash_HarappaWorld(Updated)
3.67139764 12.00% BMAC_Dzharkutan + 88.00% Roma_Romania
3.74962854 14.60% Mazandarani + 85.40% Roma_Romania
4.30951324 15.20% Iranian2 + 84.80% Roma_Romania
4.36450106 9.00% Abhkasian + 91.00% Roma_Romania
4.43186665 9.80% Georgian2 + 90.20% Roma_Romania
4.43832015 8.40% Georgian1 + 91.60% Roma_Romania
4.44369464 20.20% Qizilbash_Kabul + 79.80% Roma_Romania
4.44918724 16.20% Iranian_Kerman + 83.80% Roma_Romania
4.46109974 18.60% Iranian_Mashhad + 81.40% Roma_Romania
4.48284333 13.20% Kurd3 + 86.80% Roma_Romania
4.49261490 85.60% Roma_Romania + 14.40% Talysh
4.51800641 11.80% Lezgin + 88.20% Roma_Romania
4.54106363 10.80% Ossetian_North + 89.20% Roma_Romania
4.55158533 12.60% Kurd2 + 87.40% Roma_Romania
4.60786522 14.20% Kurd1 + 85.80% Roma_Romania
4.62598120 83.60% Roma_Romania + 16.40% Turkmen_Iran
4.63342913 15.40% Iranian_Shiraz + 84.60% Roma_Romania
4.63386386 14.00% Iranian_Lur + 86.00% Roma_Romania
4.63459634 10.60% Adygei + 89.40% Roma_Romania
4.63462420 18.00% Parsi + 82.00% Roma_Romania
4.63733842 12.60% Kumyk + 87.40% Roma_Romania
4.65046982 18.00% Farsiwan_Herat + 82.00% Roma_Romania
4.69742892 10.80% Balkar + 89.20% Roma_Romania
4.70008259 11.00% Chechen + 89.00% Roma_Romania
4.70526474 13.80% Iranian1 + 86.20% Roma_Romania

puntDNAL K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 30.9
2 South_Asia 21.49
3 SW_Europe 20.04
4 NE_Europe 13.51
5 SW_Asia 8.11
6 Siberia 2.46
7 East_Africa 1.35
8 Americas 1.14
9 SE_Asia 0.6
10 Oceania 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romani 10.47
2 Tadjik 15.58
3 Afghan_Pashtun 15.71
4 Pakistan_Pashtun 15.91
5 Pathan 17.38
6 Kumyk 18.94
7 Turkish_Aydin 19.27
8 Balochi 19.44
9 Balkar 19.46
10 Iranian 19.64
11 Turkish 19.85
12 Afghan_Uzbeki 19.99
13 Burusho 20.33
14 Dagestan_Azeri 20.34
15 Azerbaijan_Azeri 20.44
16 Turkish_Kayseri 20.59
17 Sindhi 20.6
18 Brahui 20.69
19 Ossetian 21.5
20 Kurdish 21.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.2% Kashmir_Pandit + 45.8% Italian_Sicilian @ 2.37
2 53.7% Kashmir_Pandit + 46.3% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 3.02
3 54.8% Kashmir_Pandit + 45.2% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.02
4 52.4% Punjabi + 47.6% Italian_Sicilian @ 3.52
5 59.4% Sindhi + 40.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.95
6 59.1% Greek_Central + 40.9% Velamas @ 3.96
7 51.9% Punjabi + 48.1% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 4.03
8 54.6% Ashkenazy_Jew + 45.4% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 4.15
9 55.7% Kashmir_Pandit + 44.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.18
10 61.8% Sindhi + 38.2% Italian_Tuscan @ 4.25
11 67.9% Romani + 32.1% Brahui @ 4.29
12 53.9% Punjabi + 46.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.33
13 54.8% Greek_Central + 45.2% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 4.42
14 54.1% Italian_Sicilian + 45.9% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 4.44
15 53.1% Punjabi + 46.9% Sephardic_Jew @ 4.47
16 59.8% Sindhi + 40.2% Albanian @ 4.5
17 66.7% Romani + 33.3% Balochi @ 4.54
18 59.5% Sindhi + 40.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.61
19 58.1% Sindhi + 41.9% Italian_Sicilian @ 4.61
20 57.4% Sindhi + 42.6% Greek_Central @ 4.7

Target: Boyash_puntDNALK13(Updated)
Distance: 2.3642% / 2.36416433 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.5 Romani
24.5 Turkish_Kayseri
14.7 Balochi
12.7 Kurumba
2.6 Mexican

[tipirneni]

Some of the Hapogroups ancestral to main Romani H-M82 haplogroups like H3-Z5864 has presence in ancient Anatolia 8th millenium BC and H1-Z5890 has Jewish clades probably from Elamite period https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1591/ten-ancient-elam-facts-you-need-to-know/ where there was a big Jewish colony and historical figures like Esther and Daniel
and also present in Shahr-e-Shokta during early Bronze age https://archive.archaeology.org/1111/features/dasht-e_lut_iran_shahr-i-sokta-shahad_tepe_yaha.html.

All these point to some kind of ancient Anatolian/Jewish/Elamite IRAN_N present among the ancestors of Romanis and probably this group mixed with some Iran tribes on their way to west either in Europe or in Middle east

[Leto]

5 Baltic 10.03
6 North_Atlantic 1.37

A very strange ratio. And yes, the Caucasus is pretty high, even though the South Asian is totally normal for a full Rom.

[tipirneni]

5 Baltic 10.03
6 North_Atlantic 1.37

A very strange ratio. And yes, the Caucasus is pretty high, even though the South Asian is totally normal for a full Rom.

That kind of ratio with High baltic and low north atlantic appears in many of the South Asians who are not Brahmins with MLBA admix. My k15 shown below. There is some kind of Baltic component that is matching me to ancient samples like Medieval Tartu Estonia, Neolithic Jutland, BA Leith, Rugi tribes etc.. This might be some ancient EBA era marriage networks related to Iskhvaku Solar dynasty with the ancient H-clade agri/pastorials that was present in India to Elam in which important people like Lord Rama were Born and Buddha was also from the related tribe.

My file also shows 12% admix with Chauhans who are Huns mixed with Gujar pastorials who moved into India 3-7 century CE

Component %
North_Sea 0.07%
Baltic 2.10%
Eastern_Euro 0.88%
West_Med 0.20%
West_Asian 15.41%
East_Med 3.89%
Red_Sea 0.01%
South_Asian 72.80%
Southeast_Asian 0.82%
Siberian 2.08%
Amerindian 0.20%
Oceanian 0.88%
Northeast_African 0.22%
Sub-Saharan 0.44%

[tipirneni]

5 Baltic 10.03
6 North_Atlantic 1.37

A very strange ratio. And yes, the Caucasus is pretty high, even though the South Asian is totally normal for a full Rom.

Huge areas were covered by ancient Rugii tribals who had some kind of strong Pagan religion close to Hinduism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52LnyzpGv1M

lord Brahma -> https://vikasacharya.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/53051ed461ec1596fb7f0a879fb4e118.jpg?w=640
Cape ARKONA of ruegen island pagan center, svtovit https://c8.alamy.com/comp/E1WGXH/god-sculpture-svantevit-jaromarsburg-at-cape-arkona-wittow-ruegen-E1WGXH.jpg