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SilverKnight
04-06-2022, 06:00 AM
Seems like she has some form of very distant British /Irish ancestry from her parents, I suspect the mother's side.

They were shocked when they saw her at birth.

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Xacal
04-06-2022, 06:03 AM
East Alpinid + Asiatic Alpinid

Russki
04-06-2022, 06:05 AM
Udmurtoid

NSXD60
04-06-2022, 06:11 AM
Indic Manga

SilverKnight
04-06-2022, 06:14 AM
She's cute. The definition of - Best of both worlds. Huh

Grace O'Malley
04-06-2022, 06:26 AM
She's depigmented but features are Indian. Indians have Steppe ancestry so they don't need to have some recent European ancestry. A dna test would be interesting as anything is possible. Feature wise though she looks Indian.

SilverKnight
04-06-2022, 06:43 AM
She's depigmented but features are Indian. Indians have Steppe ancestry so they don't need to have some recent European ancestry. A dna test would be interesting as anything is possible. Feature wise though she looks Indian.

I wouldn't be surprised if she has 5-20% west European in here.

Grace O'Malley
04-06-2022, 06:51 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if she has 5-20% west European in here.

I actually would be willing to bet she doesn't. She has a very Indian name i.e. she isn't an Anglo-Indian for example.

punkx
04-06-2022, 06:55 AM
She's depigmented but features are Indian. Indians have Steppe ancestry so they don't need to have some recent European ancestry. A dna test would be interesting as anything is possible. Feature wise though she looks Indian.Agreed. She looks like a depigmented Indo Brachid, nothing else. I don't particularly find any reason to suspect recent European ancestry. Redheads and blonds are extremely rare in India, but it is very much possible to find such individuals without European Ancestry.

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SilverKnight
04-06-2022, 06:55 AM
I actually would be willing to bet she doesn't. She has a very Indian name i.e. she isn't an Anglo-Indian for example.

how do you explain the red hair, freckles?
Her mom also seems to have distant british colonial era ancestry.

punkx
04-06-2022, 07:09 AM
how do you explain the red hair, freckles?
Her mom also seems to have distant british colonial era ancestry.Red hair are probably from Steppe ancestry or something, and freckles don't even have to be from europe as I know austro-asiatic speaking people from India with negligible West Eurasian ancestry who have freckles.
Marrying outside one's caste is taboo as is, that too with a casteless foreigner it is fairly rare. And even if she did have a british ancestor, I don't think they'd just forget about it like that. She's a Gujarati Lohana afaik, and most colonial era mutts were from Goa, Bengal, or the South. Gujarati Lohanas are of Sindhi origin, and if Pashtuns and Kalashas can have a sizable minority of people with light hair, I don't see any reason to believe why upper caste Indus Valley pops cannot have a few individuals here and there with these traits as well.

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arkas
04-07-2022, 12:23 PM
how do you explain the red hair, freckles?
Her mom also seems to have distant british colonial era ancestry.

Indians who have British Colonial ancestry usually will identify themselves as Anglo-Indian and tend to be Christian with Western names, not Hindu.

I would've guessed her to be half British half Indian anyhow, but somehow I'm guessing she's not. Her facial features look very Indian.

SilverKnight
04-07-2022, 01:17 PM
Indians who have British Colonial ancestry usually will identify themselves as Anglo-Indian and tend to be Christian with Western names, not Hindu.

I would've guessed her to be half British half Indian anyhow, but somehow I'm guessing she's not. Her facial features look very Indian.

I'm still impressed with her features regardless.
I mean we can't discard a possibility of having a tiny bit of European ancestry. Even if they don't identify as such. It would be nice to her DNA results.

Grace O'Malley
04-07-2022, 02:10 PM
I'm still impressed with her features regardless.
I mean we can't discard a possibility of having a tiny bit of European ancestry. Even if they don't identify as such. It would be nice to her DNA results.

While anything is possible it would be highly unlikely that someone who is Hindi with an Indian surname would have British ancestry because women in the past like that would not be accepted in that community. Women that partnered British became Christian and a different and separate population was created in India. The majority of Anglo-Indians left India when they got the opportunity and went to Britain, Australia and Canada.

Another thing to take note is that these recessive traits occur because of both her mother and father as you need both copies of these recessive genes for blue eyes and also red hair so it's just a rare occurrence of both parents having these recessive traits to pass it on to their offspring. There would be Indians that carry these traits but because they are rare in the Indian population the chances of two people having them and marrying is extremely rare. Recessive traits are more likely to be expressed in populations that are smaller and more closed off like the Kalash.

Tongio
04-07-2022, 02:54 PM
Alpine with "assiroid - like" influence on eyes and nose.

kevinmac
04-07-2022, 03:38 PM
Depigmented Asiatic Alpine+ Indo Branchid. She does not look European despite skin and hair.

SilverKnight
04-07-2022, 03:43 PM
Alpine with "assiroid - like" influence on eyes and nose.


Depigmented Asiatic Alpine+ Indo Branchid. She does not look European despite skin and hair.

Anywhere she could pass in Europe?, come on, at least somewhere?? Perhaps Turkey's European side??

Tongio
04-07-2022, 03:55 PM
Anywhere she could pass in Europe?, come on, at least somewhere?? Perhaps Turkey's European side??

I never been to Urop so i can't tell, but maybe as a partialy gypsy east european, or in dagestan or something?

Übermensch
04-07-2022, 04:39 PM
Her hair is ''auburn'' not ginger.

SilverKnight
04-07-2022, 06:15 PM
I never been to Urop so i can't tell, but maybe as a partialy gypsy east european, or in dagestan or something?

Yea perhaps those parts of Russia and Degestan, but she would prob be an odditty in those places for the observant eye.

Pro.crasti.nation
04-11-2022, 01:57 PM
how do you explain the red hair, freckles?
Her mom also seems to have distant british colonial era ancestry.

One of my first cousins, has freckles. She's pretty much the same complexion as I am. I never knew it was anything special.