Classify this swarthy footballer. Where does he pass?

[Fruslay]

Hails from Ulldecona, Catalonia and his name is Oriol Romeu i Vidal.
https://images.performgroup.com/di/library/GOAL/5d/74/oriol-romeu-southampton_62e42cjbtfpp15803ryicu41e.jpg?t=-131966317
https://images.daznservices.com/di/library/DAZN_News/4f/48/oriol-romeu_caqd943vlli81b2jk5ut0u16w.jpg?t=-806582709&quality=60&h=450
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UMEYHJN4vdE/XjmmXQxeAeI/AAAAAAAByZY/gphA32nFKv0oKlPrtDYfzAp9nNGizxvQQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Oriol%2BRomeu.jpg
https://s03.s3c.es/imag/_v2/ecodiario/deportes/250x250/oriol-romeu.jpg

[Russki]

@Token

Is this a large-headed Atlanto-Med?

[Xacal]

Looks like Zidane. Baskid + CM

[Norb]

maybe Israel?

[Uranous]

Pass in caucassus ,south europe , parts of north africa Dinaro- med

[Roy]

He looks a lot like our Greek forum member Zenon do I assume he passes well in Greece.

[Fruslay]

maybe Israel?

He looks like a mixture of different parts of the Mediterranean. He will fit very well in Israel indeed.

[de Burgh II]

Iberian specific Eurafricanid/Atlantid; looks distinctly Iberian.

[Russki]

Iberian specific Eurafricanid/Atlantid; looks distinctly Iberian.


Eurafricanid and Atlantid are not the same.

[Immanenz]

metrically Iron Age Nordic, now you can think of it what you want.

But yeah he can pass from Sapin to Greece and beyond (Levant etc.) -Atlanto med.

[de Burgh II]

Eurafricanid and Atlantid are not the same.

What is the difference?

I'm as pale as they come with rufosity, but metrically/phenotypically speaking; I would fall under the detailed description of a "Eurafricanid" despite its minority prevalence in the British Isles.

[Fruslay]

What about a Moorish remnant?
He is from the far south-western tip of Catalonia, around the Ebre river mouth which was an area of heavy Muslim settlement. He doesn't strike me as Catalan at all although his surnames are totally Catalan.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/29/df/6d/29df6d30752855b475978708456dd207.jpg

[Fruslay]

What about a Moorish remnant?
He is from the far south-western tip of Catalonia, around the Ebre river mouth which was an area of heavy Muslim settlement. He doesn't strike me as Catalan at all although his surnames are totally Catalan.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/29/df/6d/29df6d30752855b475978708456dd207.jpg

[Urbanuss]

Looks non-white, he probably is a fake Catalan.

[Anaximander]

he is not extremely swarthy.

[Urbanuss]

What about a Moorish remnant?
He is from the far south-western tip of Catalonia, around the Ebre river mouth which was an area of heavy Muslim settlement. He doesn't strike me as Catalan at all although his surnames are totally Catalan.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/29/df/6d/29df6d30752855b475978708456dd207.jpg

What is your obsession with Spain? You take a random map just for show moorish remnants.

Another anti-Iberian troll, what a new..

[Urbanuss]

Iberian specific Eurafricanid/Atlantid; looks distinctly Iberian.
LMFAO
Nah, he looks Kebaboid, not typical iberian.

Saying this is the same as saying that a pseudo-hun ching chong like himmler looks distincly german.

[Fruslay]

What is your obsession with Spain? You take a random map just for show moorish remnants.

Another anti-Iberian troll, what a new..

I'm Catalan myself and I made a thread about this guy because he strikes me as exotic and non-Catalan, but he 100% is.
And the map shows moorish settlements, although this doesnt't mean much because the regions with most muslims by far (València was 1/3 muslim and Aragón 20%) today have among the lowest north african blood. Maybe given the low presence they had in Catalonia, muslims were permitted to stay and this man has elevated NA ancestry.

[Roy]

I'm Catalan myself and I made a thread about this guy because he strikes me as exotic and non-Catalan, but he 100% is.
And the map shows moorish settlements, although this doesnt't mean much because the regions with most muslims by far (València was 1/3 muslim and Aragón 20%) today have among the lowest north african blood. Maybe given the low presence they had in Catalonia, muslims were permitted to stay and this man has elevated NA ancestry.


It sounds like a far-fetched theory to me.

[Gallop]

You have not seen many Catalans, he does have a Catalan face a Catalan pagés as they say.

Currently anyone who had a Moorish ancestor of those who stayed or took to Castile will not be noticed fenotipicamnete, accept it. You are simply trying to pervert Iberians.

Spain is Europe, yes or yes

And remember not to confuse ancient populations with modern ones.

[Token]

@Token

Is this a large-headed Atlanto-Med?

No, he's clearly short-headed from side view. Atlanto-Mediterraneans have very long and reasonably large cranial vaults, with a bulging occiput. The second guy is a textbook example of Atlanto-Mediterranean.

https://i.imgur.com/ZBilyXk.png

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe231.jpg

His microcephalic Small Med condition becomes evident from top view. Notice the perfectly parallel parietals and the laterally compressed frontal bone, approximating the shape of an egg. Atlanto-Med skulls show very broad frontal bones which, coupled with a larger vault, approximate the shape of an rectangle - this is a cranial diagnostic of Atlanto-Meds.

https://i.imgur.com/gYsI8SY.png

His small head fits perfectly in the palms of a northern European. No wonder the Germanics liked to make cups out of Mediterranean skulls.

https://d3vlf99qeg6bpx.cloudfront.net/content/uploads/2020/10/04143049/Oriol.Romeu_-469x245.jpg

He is predominantly Mediterranean Proper, but his depressed nasion, bulging supraorbital ridge and very sloping forehead suggests some non-Med influence.

[Africanwidow]

No, he's clearly short-headed from side view. Atlanto-Mediterraneans have very long and reasonably large cranial vaults, with a bulging occiput. The second guy is a textbook example of Atlanto-Mediterranean.

https://i.imgur.com/ZBilyXk.png

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe231.jpg

His microcephalic Small Med condition becomes evident from top view. Notice the perfectly parallel parietals and the laterally compressed frontal bone, approximating the shape of an egg. Atlanto-Med skulls show very broad frontal bones which, coupled with a larger vault, approximate the shape of an rectangle - this is a cranial diagnostic of Atlanto-Meds.

https://i.imgur.com/gYsI8SY.png

His small head fits perfectly in the palms of a northern European. No wonder the Germanics liked to make cups out of Mediterranean skulls.

https://d3vlf99qeg6bpx.cloudfront.net/content/uploads/2020/10/04143049/Oriol.Romeu_-469x245.jpg

He is predominantly Mediterranean Proper, but his depressed nasion, bulging supraorbital ridge and very sloping forehead suggests some non-Med influence.

You are god among gods on TA. I worship you.

[Norb]

metrically Iron Age Nordic, now you can think of it what you want.

But yeah he can pass from Sapin to Greece and beyond (Levant etc.) -Atlanto med.

please tell me how the F**K this ugly looking dude is the same metrics as me? LEL!

[Immanenz]

please tell me how the F**K this ugly looking dude is the same metrics as me? LEL!

you are longer headed, but he can still beat the crap out of you.

[Norb]

you are longer headed, but he can still beat the crap out of you.

this swarthy dwarf will need a ladder to reach me

[Fruslay]

It sounds like a far-fetched theory to me.

I have read accounts of Catalans who claimed they have crypto-Jewish and crypto-Moorish grandparents. Apparently these communities existed for centuries, had their own customs and only married into their own community until some decades ago. I have read similar things about Moorish remnants in southern France who were discriminated against and the French called them a name which now I can't remember. Also of towns in Murcia that had a bad reputation because the people in nearby towns considered them the legacy of Muslims who stayed after the expulsions. If we have Jews and gypsies to this day, it is not far-fetched that the same happened with Moors.
It would be interesting to see results of these apparent Moorish remnants. Imo they'd have double the average NA of their "normal" neighbours.

[Fruslay]

You have not seen many Catalans, he does have a Catalan face a Catalan pagés as they say.

Currently anyone who had a Moorish ancestor of those who stayed or took to Castile will not be noticed fenotipicamnete, accept it. You are simply trying to pervert Iberians.

Spain is Europe, yes or yes

And remember not to confuse ancient populations with modern ones.

He does not look Catalan at all. How would you know anyway?
Of course he is exotic and his looks can be due to Moorish ancestry or not but it is perfectly possible to find people in Iberia who look similar to North Africans because they're 5-10% NA. The Afrikaners for example are <5% non-European but parents phenotypically 100% European has been shown to have kids who look like quadroons.