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Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 07:36 AM
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Old

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Updated

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Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 07:41 AM
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Old

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Updated

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Is that all your GCs?

Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 07:48 AM
Is that all your GCs?

GC’s?

If that’s communities then yes

The counties I received are

Wicklow Carlow & Wexford

Laois and Kilkenny

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Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 08:02 AM
GC’s?

If that’s communities then yes

The counties I received are

Wicklow Carlow & Wexford

Laois and Kilkenny

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My daughter also has Wicklow, Carlow and Wexford. You must be all Leinster. Eastern part of Ireland gets less Ireland which is not surprising.

Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 08:13 AM
This is my daughter's Ancestry result. Her paternal side is from Leinster.

https://i.imgur.com/2hNCEsX.png

Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 10:32 AM
This is my daughter's Ancestry result. Her paternal side is from Leinster.

https://i.imgur.com/2hNCEsX.png

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220426/caef29c93a8fd32f539a9d072d9d0ab2.jpg


Here is my genetic communities

Yea I’m all Leinster, although my mam gets the north Tipperary community which technically counts as Munster but her granny was from clonmel which is literally a few kilometres from the border with Leinster

I find the other 15% quite tedious as I’ve no paper trail at all to those countries and it is either a mishap on ancestry DNA’s part or very ancient residual dna
Example: the 2% England is probably Norman dna from 900 years ago still lingering on

Also I find the “ your connection is very likely “ part very funny cause I’m literally from here


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Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 10:46 AM
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Here is my genetic communities

Yea I’m all Leinster, although my mam gets the north Tipperary community which technically counts as Munster but her granny was from clonmel which is literally a few kilometres from the border with Leinster

I find the other 15% quite tedious as I’ve no paper trail at all to those countries and it is either a mishap on ancestry DNA’s part or very ancient residual dna
Example: the 2% England is probably Norman dna from 900 years ago still lingering on

Also I find the “ your connection is very likely “ part very funny cause I’m literally from here


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Yes I know Clonmel as my mother is from North Tipperary. I think it depends on what population they use for their Ireland panel also. Yes getting England, Scotland etc is not recent but just the East being closer and having more ancestry from Britain. My daughter's father has a Hiberno-Norman surname and family hails from Wexford. Anyway you will most probably get slightly different results with Ancestry's next update. I think these categories and what percentages you get are very dependent on what they use to compare people to. Ancestry use IBD for the GCs so that's why they are more accurate.

If you haven't already you could upload your results to Gedmatch. It would be interesting to see what you get with Eurogenes K13 and Eurogenes K15.

Thanks for posting your results.

Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 10:59 AM
Yes I know Clonmel as my mother is from North Tipperary. I think it depends on what population they use for their Ireland panel also. Yes getting England, Scotland etc is not recent but just the East being closer and having more ancestry from Britain. My daughter's father has a Hiberno-Norman surname and family hails from Wexford. Anyway you will most probably get slightly different results with Ancestry's next update. I think these categories and what percentages you get are very dependent on what they use to compare people to. Ancestry use IBD for the GCs so that's why they are more accurate.

If you haven't already you could upload your results to Gedmatch. It would be interesting to see what you get with Eurogenes K13 and Eurogenes K15.

Thanks for posting your results.

Oh I’m hard ahead of you I’ve already uploaded to everything I’ve been doing this for over a year now

Check out my G25 results


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Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 11:03 AM
Oh I’m hard ahead of you I’ve already uploaded to everything I’ve been doing this for over a year now

Check out my G25 results


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Nothing has appeared. You should try this thread.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?346145-Apricity-users-K36-modelling-sheet

J. Ketch
04-26-2022, 11:03 AM
Oh I’m hard ahead of you I’ve already uploaded to everything I’ve been doing this for over a year now

Check out my G25 results


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Can you post your K13/K36 scores? If you're fully Leinster I can add you to the averages.

Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 11:08 AM
Nothing has appeared. You should try this thread.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?346145-Apricity-users-K36-modelling-sheet

I’ll be sure to add my numbers, I’ll have to run them again, I find G25 to be very accurate so it’s been a while since I used any other eurogenes application


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Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 11:14 AM
Can you post your K13/K36 scores? If you're fully Leinster I can add you to the averages.

K13:

Population
North_Atlantic51.15 Pct
Baltic19.4 Pct
West_Med16.13 Pct
West_Asian6.46 Pct
East_Med2.42 Pct
Red_Sea0.39 Pct
South_Asian1.51 Pct
East_Asian-
Siberian-
Amerindian2.14 Pct
Oceanian0.08 Pct
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan0.28 Pct

K36:

Population
Amerindian0.84 Pct
Arabian-
Armenian-
Basque4.07 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro8.43 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan1.26 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro5.47 Pct
East_Med-
Eastern_Euro4.29 Pct
Fennoscandian6.23 Pct
French7.27 Pct
Iberian17.08 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian6.7 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern-
North_African-
North_Atlantic17.26 Pct
North_Caucasian-
North_Sea19.09 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian1.64 Pct
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian-
West_Med0.33 Pct


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Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 11:28 AM
Nothing has appeared. You should try this thread.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?346145-Apricity-users-K36-modelling-sheet

My G25 results
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?share_fid=11793&share_tid=362355&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etheapricity%2Ecom%2Fforum% 2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D362355&share_type=t&link_source=app

Here’s the link to my G25 results


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Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 11:40 AM
You're a bit more southern shifted than myself. I should try my daughter's results on K36 also. She is more southern shifted than myself.

Distance to: AtlanteanMuller
4.80152059 English_Southwest
5.09538026 Welsh
5.27153678 Scottish_Orkney
5.36294695 Irish_Leinster
5.46843671 French_Brittany
5.66711567 Irish
5.70364796 English_Lancashire
5.86840694 Irish_Munster
5.89608345 Cornish
6.05310664 Scottish
6.07982730 English_Northeast
6.14916254 English
6.22215397 Irish_Connacht
6.34151401 English_West-Midlands
6.45232516 Irish_Ulster
6.68249953 English_East-Midlands
6.68571612 English_East
6.79756574 English_Southeast
6.80484386 English_Yorkshire
8.21382980 French_Hauts-de-France
8.48414403 French_Normandy
8.67338458 Dutch_South
8.94098429 Dutch
9.23510693 Dutch_Central
9.70943871 German_Lower_Saxony_South
9.97824133 Flemish
10.08112593 Belgian-2
10.23176427 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
10.23260475 Belgian
10.80769171 German_Northwest
11.48711452 Danish_2
11.60374509 German_Westphalia
11.71411115 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
11.74868078 French_East
11.88833041 French
12.01341334 Dutch_North
12.14623398 Icelandic
12.36797477 German
12.65284948 German_Hesse_South
12.80431958 German_South
12.80763054 German_Bavaria_proper
12.86107694 German_Frisian
13.10274017 Danish
13.19250166 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
13.33967766 German_North_Rhine
13.54922138 German_Schleswig-Holstein
13.63367889 German_Hither_Pomerania
13.68187487 French_Northeast
13.76204200 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
14.03810172 German_Lower_Saxony_North


Target: AtlanteanMuller
Distance: 319.3744% / 3.19374411
35.0 Irish_Munster
20.4 Cornish
13.4 German_Frisian
8.4 German_Lower_Saxony_South
7.2 French_Hauts-de-France
7.2 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
5.6 Basque_Spanish
1.8 Irish_Ulster
0.6 Brahui
0.4 Surui


Target: AtlanteanMuller
Distance: 330.0780% / 3.30077988 | ADC: 0.25x RC
28.0 Irish_Ulster
16.6 French_Hauts-de-France
14.8 English_Lancashire
14.4 German_Lower_Saxony_South
11.8 Irish_Munster
7.4 Cornish
6.4 Basque_Spanish
0.6 Makrani

Target: AtlanteanMuller
Distance: 355.6660% / 3.55666043 | ADC: 0.5x RC
58.6 Irish
21.8 French_Hauts-de-France
14.6 English_Southwest
5.0 Basque_Spanish

J. Ketch
04-26-2022, 11:44 AM
K13:

Population
North_Atlantic51.15 Pct
Baltic19.4 Pct
West_Med16.13 Pct
West_Asian6.46 Pct
East_Med2.42 Pct
Red_Sea0.39 Pct
South_Asian1.51 Pct
East_Asian-
Siberian-
Amerindian2.14 Pct
Oceanian0.08 Pct
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan0.28 Pct

K36:

Population
Amerindian0.84 Pct
Arabian-
Armenian-
Basque4.07 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro8.43 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan1.26 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro5.47 Pct
East_Med-
Eastern_Euro4.29 Pct
Fennoscandian6.23 Pct
French7.27 Pct
Iberian17.08 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian6.7 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern-
North_African-
North_Atlantic17.26 Pct
North_Caucasian-
North_Sea19.09 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian1.64 Pct
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian-
West_Med0.33 Pct


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OK, so you are a former user here, and I already have you as a reference in K13.

Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 11:45 AM
OK, so you are a former user here, and I already have you as a reference in K13.

Yes I was here before but I came back because I had a lot more results to share since


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Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 11:47 AM
OK, so you are a former user here, and I already have you as a reference in K13.

I guessed who it was but didn't want to presume. Anyway welcome back.

Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 11:47 AM
You're a bit more southern shifted than myself. I should try my daughter's results on K36 also. She is more southern shifted than myself.

Distance to:AtlanteanMuller
4.80152059English_Southwest
5.09538026Welsh
5.27153678Scottish_Orkney
5.36294695Irish_Leinster
5.46843671French_Brittany
5.66711567Irish
5.70364796English_Lancashire
5.86840694Irish_Munster
5.89608345Cornish
6.05310664Scottish
6.07982730English_Northeast
6.14916254English
6.22215397Irish_Connacht
6.34151401English_West-Midlands
6.45232516Irish_Ulster
6.68249953English_East-Midlands
6.68571612English_East
6.79756574English_Southeast
6.80484386English_Yorkshire
8.21382980French_Hauts-de-France
8.48414403French_Normandy
8.67338458Dutch_South
8.94098429Dutch
9.23510693Dutch_Central
9.70943871German_Lower_Saxony_South
9.97824133Flemish
10.08112593Belgian-2
10.23176427German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
10.23260475Belgian
10.80769171German_Northwest
11.48711452Danish_2
11.60374509German_Westphalia
11.71411115German_Rhineland-Palatinate
11.74868078French_East
11.88833041French
12.01341334Dutch_North
12.14623398Icelandic
12.36797477German
12.65284948German_Hesse_South
12.80431958German_South
12.80763054German_Bavaria_proper
12.86107694German_Frisian
13.10274017Danish
13.19250166German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
13.33967766German_North_Rhine
13.54922138German_Schleswig-Holstein
13.63367889German_Hither_Pomerania
13.68187487French_Northeast
13.76204200German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
14.03810172German_Lower_Saxony_North


Target: AtlanteanMuller
Distance: 319.3744% / 3.19374411
35.0Irish_Munster
20.4Cornish
13.4German_Frisian
8.4German_Lower_Saxony_South
7.2French_Hauts-de-France
7.2Spanish_Catalunya_Central
5.6Basque_Spanish
1.8Irish_Ulster
0.6Brahui
0.4Surui


Target: AtlanteanMuller
Distance: 330.0780% / 3.30077988 | ADC: 0.25x RC
28.0Irish_Ulster
16.6French_Hauts-de-France
14.8English_Lancashire
14.4German_Lower_Saxony_South
11.8Irish_Munster
7.4Cornish
6.4Basque_Spanish
0.6Makrani

Target: AtlanteanMuller
Distance: 355.6660% / 3.55666043 | ADC: 0.5x RC
58.6Irish
21.8French_Hauts-de-France
14.6English_Southwest
5.0Basque_Spanish

Yes this is why I believe G25 is more accurate it gave me no where near as much of a southern shift, if anything it gave me more of a northern shift


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Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 11:53 AM
Yes this is why I believe G25 is more accurate it gave me no where near as much of a southern shift, if anything it gave me more of a northern shift


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I think Leinster is closer to England so more of a southern shift than the midland and west counties. My daughter has somewhat similar results to you.

Distance to: Grace's_daughter
6.72436614 Irish_Connacht
6.78996318 Welsh
6.98573547 Irish
7.14349354 Irish_Munster
7.26653975 Irish_Ulster
7.59661109 Irish_Leinster
7.88310852 Scottish_Orkney
7.97458463 Scottish
8.28809387 English_Southwest
9.21018458 Cornish
9.21583963 English_West-Midlands
9.26648261 English_Lancashire
9.26681715 French_Brittany
9.46421682 English_Northeast
9.47085529 English
9.57424148 English_East
9.86463380 English_Yorkshire
10.03827674 English_Southeast
10.20615011 English_East-Midlands
10.83072020 French_Hauts-de-France
11.28405512 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
11.65499464 Dutch
12.45473805 Dutch_Central
12.53349512 German_Northwest
12.56496319 German_Lower_Saxony_South
12.67404040 Dutch_South
12.75907520 French_Normandy
12.96887813 German_Westphalia
13.06191793 Danish_2
13.26874146 Icelandic
13.30734384 German_Frisian
13.56068582 Dutch_North
13.96774141 Flemish
13.97639796 Belgian
14.19007400 Belgian-2
14.58249636 German_Lower_Saxony_North
14.77253194 Danish
14.83509016 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
14.91765062 German_Hither_Pomerania
14.99114739 German_Schleswig-Holstein
15.12362721 German
15.58098842 French_East
15.73805261 German_West_Bohemia
15.87187135 French
15.88449244 German_Hesse_South
16.07255736 German_Bavaria_proper
16.13240528 Swedish_2
16.32514931 German_South
16.34959938 Norwegian
16.35890277 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East


Target: Grace's_daughter
Distance: 600.3087% / 6.00308712
77.6 Irish_Connacht
19.0 French_Hauts-de-France
2.8 Basque_Spanish
0.6 Darginian


Target: Grace's_daughter
Distance: 601.4850% / 6.01485019 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.0 Irish_Connacht
19.2 French_Hauts-de-France
2.8 Basque_Spanish

Target: Grace's_daughter
Distance: 611.2370% / 6.11236976 | ADC: 0.5x RC
76.2 Irish_Connacht
23.8 French_Hauts-de-France

Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 11:54 AM
This is my mother's result who is from North Tipperary.

Distance to: Bridget
5.58399499 Irish_Connacht
6.23613662 Irish
6.39946091 Welsh
6.50951611 Irish_Munster
6.75787689 Scottish_Orkney
6.88122809 Irish_Ulster
7.35395812 Scottish
7.42285659 Irish_Leinster
8.33912465 English_Lancashire
8.41910922 English_Southwest
8.57488775 English_Yorkshire
8.74177328 English
8.78342758 English_West-Midlands
8.89623516 Icelandic
8.91106054 English_East
8.92627022 English_Northeast
9.01198646 English_Southeast
9.32649988 Danish_2
9.39962765 Dutch
9.53181515 German_Frisian
9.72248939 French_Brittany
9.97463784 English_East-Midlands
10.03345404 Cornish
10.24628713 German_Northwest
10.37398188 German_Westphalia
10.62372816 Dutch_Central
10.66489100 Dutch_North
10.72404774 Danish
10.73720634 Dutch_South
10.86834394 German_Lower_Saxony_North
10.88410768 German_Lower_Saxony_South
11.14298883 German_Hither_Pomerania
11.40537593 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
11.57387576 Swedish_2
11.76045067 German_Schleswig-Holstein
11.86265147 Norwegian
11.91597247 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
12.65844777 French_Normandy
13.21841140 German
13.27609882 French_Hauts-de-France
13.35825962 German_Mecklenburg_West
13.55704614 Flemish
13.89912587 German_East_Prussia_Central
13.93748901 German_West_Bohemia
14.01748194 Belgian
14.30427558 Belgian-2
14.78128547 German_North_Moravia
15.06464404 Swedish
15.17847818 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
15.20765268 German_Brandenburg_Northwest


Target: Bridget
Distance: 365.8061% / 3.65806143
33.6 Irish_Ulster
28.2 German_Frisian
23.2 Irish_Connacht
5.0 Darginian
3.8 Norwegian_North
3.4 Basque_Spanish
2.8 Russian_Pinezhsky


Target: Bridget
Distance: 370.1094% / 3.70109380 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.4 Irish_Connacht
24.6 German_Frisian
4.4 Darginian
3.6 Basque_Spanish
3.4 Norwegian_North
2.6 Russian_Pinezhsky

Target: Bridget
Distance: 398.9545% / 3.98954519 | ADC: 0.5x RC
73.6 Irish_Connacht
15.2 German_Frisian
6.8 Norwegian_North
4.4 Tabasaran

Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 02:04 PM
This is my mother's result who is from North Tipperary.

Distance to:Bridget
5.58399499Irish_Connacht
6.23613662Irish
6.39946091Welsh
6.50951611Irish_Munster
6.75787689Scottish_Orkney
6.88122809Irish_Ulster
7.35395812Scottish
7.42285659Irish_Leinster
8.33912465English_Lancashire
8.41910922English_Southwest
8.57488775English_Yorkshire
8.74177328English
8.78342758English_West-Midlands
8.89623516Icelandic
8.91106054English_East
8.92627022English_Northeast
9.01198646English_Southeast
9.32649988Danish_2
9.39962765Dutch
9.53181515German_Frisian
9.72248939French_Brittany
9.97463784English_East-Midlands
10.03345404Cornish
10.24628713German_Northwest
10.37398188German_Westphalia
10.62372816Dutch_Central
10.66489100Dutch_North
10.72404774Danish
10.73720634Dutch_South
10.86834394German_Lower_Saxony_North
10.88410768German_Lower_Saxony_South
11.14298883German_Hither_Pomerania
11.40537593German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
11.57387576Swedish_2
11.76045067German_Schleswig-Holstein
11.86265147Norwegian
11.91597247German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
12.65844777French_Normandy
13.21841140German
13.27609882French_Hauts-de-France
13.35825962German_Mecklenburg_West
13.55704614Flemish
13.89912587German_East_Prussia_Central
13.93748901German_West_Bohemia
14.01748194Belgian
14.30427558Belgian-2
14.78128547German_North_Moravia
15.06464404Swedish
15.17847818German_Rhineland-Palatinate
15.20765268German_Brandenburg_Northwest


Target: Bridget
Distance: 365.8061% / 3.65806143
33.6Irish_Ulster
28.2German_Frisian
23.2Irish_Connacht
5.0Darginian
3.8Norwegian_North
3.4Basque_Spanish
2.8Russian_Pinezhsky


Target: Bridget
Distance: 370.1094% / 3.70109380 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.4Irish_Connacht
24.6German_Frisian
4.4Darginian
3.6Basque_Spanish
3.4Norwegian_North
2.6Russian_Pinezhsky

Target: Bridget
Distance: 398.9545% / 3.98954519 | ADC: 0.5x RC
73.6Irish_Connacht
15.2German_Frisian
6.8Norwegian_North
4.4Tabasaran

Personally I feel G25 is much better

Here’s my results

Distance to:Muller_scaled
0.01810863Irish
0.01910642Scottish
0.01969610Orcadian
0.02091137French_Brittany
0.02121505Welsh
0.02243944English
0.02293857Shetlandic
0.02308925English_Cornwall
0.02321309Dutch
0.02540303Norwegian
0.02683745Danish
0.02751519Icelandic
0.03036557Afrikaner
0.03118505BelgianA
0.03239375German
0.03321029BelgianB
0.03500977French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03616542German_Hamburg
0.03647217French_Nord
0.03706348French_Seine-Maritime
0.03717140BelgianC
0.03756204Swedish
0.03758212French_Paris
0.03823624German_Erlangen
0.04051419French_Alsace


At 3 populations

Target: Muller_scaled
Distance: 1.3833% / 0.01383255 | R3P
86.0Irish
12.2Spanish_Soria
1.8Cree


At 4 populations

Target: Muller_scaled
Distance: 1.3691% / 0.01369111 | R4P
71.0Irish
14.4Shetlandic
12.8Spanish_Soria
1.8Cree

Interesting it gives me both a southern and northern shift at the same time


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Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 02:16 PM
OK, so you are a former user here, and I already have you as a reference in K13.

Btw where do I sit on the pca?


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Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 02:24 PM
Personally I feel G25 is much better

Here’s my results

Distance to:Muller_scaled
0.01810863Irish
0.01910642Scottish
0.01969610Orcadian
0.02091137French_Brittany
0.02121505Welsh
0.02243944English
0.02293857Shetlandic
0.02308925English_Cornwall
0.02321309Dutch
0.02540303Norwegian
0.02683745Danish
0.02751519Icelandic
0.03036557Afrikaner
0.03118505BelgianA
0.03239375German
0.03321029BelgianB
0.03500977French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03616542German_Hamburg
0.03647217French_Nord
0.03706348French_Seine-Maritime
0.03717140BelgianC
0.03756204Swedish
0.03758212French_Paris
0.03823624German_Erlangen
0.04051419French_Alsace


At 3 populations

Target: Muller_scaled
Distance: 1.3833% / 0.01383255 | R3P
86.0Irish
12.2Spanish_Soria
1.8Cree


At 4 populations

Target: Muller_scaled
Distance: 1.3691% / 0.01369111 | R4P
71.0Irish
14.4Shetlandic
12.8Spanish_Soria
1.8Cree

Interesting it gives me both a southern and northern shift at the same time


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Still a more southern pull which I think Leinster has because of English input. Nothing wrong about that either.

This is my G25 result for comparison.

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01848790 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.01980300 Orcadian
0.02018258 Danish
0.02022725 Norwegian
0.02206228 English
0.02219810 Welsh
0.02416060 Dutch
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02493577 Shetlandic
0.02758167 French_Brittany
0.02919872 Swedish
0.03333011 German
0.03363452 German_Hamburg
0.03551185 BelgianA
0.03777837 Afrikaner
0.04000956 German_Erlangen
0.04111373 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04121539 BelgianB
0.04124589 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04377645 German_East
0.04383614 French_Nord
0.04598379 BelgianC
0.04754192 Austrian


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6880% / 0.01688037
54.8 Irish
40.0 Icelandic
2.4 Danish
1.8 Cossack_Kuban
0.6 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.4 Lak

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6924% / 0.01692353 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4 Irish
36.8 Icelandic
10.8 Danish

Atlantean Muller
04-26-2022, 02:31 PM
Still a more southern pull which I think Leinster has because of English input. Nothing wrong about that either.

This is my G25 result for comparison.

Distance to:Grace_scaled
0.01848790Irish
0.01914452Icelandic
0.01963632Scottish
0.01980300Orcadian
0.02018258Danish
0.02022725Norwegian
0.02206228English
0.02219810Welsh
0.02416060Dutch
0.02454052English_Cornwall
0.02493577Shetlandic
0.02758167French_Brittany
0.02919872Swedish
0.03333011German
0.03363452German_Hamburg
0.03551185BelgianA
0.03777837Afrikaner
0.04000956German_Erlangen
0.04111373French_Seine-Maritime
0.04121539BelgianB
0.04124589French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04377645German_East
0.04383614French_Nord
0.04598379BelgianC
0.04754192Austrian


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6880% / 0.01688037
54.8Irish
40.0Icelandic
2.4Danish
1.8Cossack_Kuban
0.6Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.4Lak

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6924% / 0.01692353 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4Irish
36.8Icelandic
10.8Danish

Interesting results, I seem to be a tiny bit closer to the Irish average than yourself, seeing as you’ve so much northern pull perhaps you’ve some Norse Gael or Viking genetics in the mix

Personally I don’t think the southern pull is from England as there hasn’t been any mixing with them, certainly not in recent times anyway

I think it’s far more ancient than that and is just excess EEF and megalith builder dna, seeing as I’m near entirely Gaelic and my dna on the ancient calculator has such a Bronze Age pull I’d imagine I retained much of the older dna of the country

My friends calculator has me scoring at 97% Atlantic Bronze Age higher than any Irish average

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Grace O'Malley
04-26-2022, 02:50 PM
Interesting results, I seem to be a tiny bit closer to the Irish average than yourself, seeing as you’ve so much northern pull perhaps you’ve some Norse Gael or Viking genetics in the mix

Personally I don’t think the southern pull is from England as there hasn’t been any mixing with them, certainly not in recent times anyway

I think it’s far more ancient than that and is just excess EEF and megalith builder dna, seeing as I’m near entirely Gaelic and my dna on the ancient calculator has such a Bronze Age pull I’d imagine I retained much of the older dna of the country

My friends calculator has me scoring at 97% Atlantic Bronze Age higher than any Irish average

113599


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Yes of course it could be that but the Irish Bronze Age was more northern than present day Irish so I'm thinking some later input from the nearest island and also the known history of Leinster. Yes I'm a bit more distant than yourself but my ancestry is from North Tipperary and Sligo/Roscommon and the majority of Irish are in the Leinster area so that might explain the distance. What would be interesting is some more scientific papers that looked at ancient genomes in Ireland.

Atlantean Muller
04-27-2022, 04:37 PM
Yes of course it could be that but the Irish Bronze Age was more northern than present day Irish so I'm thinking some later input from the nearest island and also the known history of Leinster. Yes I'm a bit more distant than yourself but my ancestry is from North Tipperary and Sligo/Roscommon and the majority of Irish are in the Leinster area so that might explain the distance. What would be interesting is some more scientific papers that looked at ancient genomes in Ireland.

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Here’s illustrative dna

I’ve found it to be ok, I seem to drift in a slight ANE direction to the Irish average, the one with the pink countries is showing my closest nations


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