Tolan K14M1 by Admixturestudio.

[Voskos]

What results do you get?

Here's what I got:

12.65% A-NorthWest_Euro
0.11% B-NorthCentral_Euro
0.05% C-NorthEast_Euro
9.42% D-SouthWest_Euro
34.06% E-SouthEast_Euro
7.93% F-Anatolia
17.91% G-East-Anatolia
0.00% H-Caspian-Sea
11.74% I-Persic-Gulf
6.11% J-North-Africa&Arabi
0.00% K-Equatorial-Africa
0.00% L-South-Himalayas
0.00% M-SouthEast_Asia
0.00% N-NorthEast_Asia

[oszkar07]

Tolan K14 From Genoplot, I dont have AdmixtureStudio


sample: Oszkar07:FTDNA-raw
NorthWest_Euro: 33.43
NorthEast_Euro: 21.09
NorthCentral_Euro: 17.06
SouthWest_Euro: 16.95
Anatolia: 7.6
SouthEast_Euro: 3.87
East-Anatolia: 0
Caspian-Sea: 0
Persic-Gulf: 0
North-Africa&Arabia: 0
Equatorial-Africa: 0
South-Himalayas: 0
SouthEast_Asia: 0
NorthEast_Asia: 0



sample: GreatBritain
distance: 15.12

sample: Hungarians
distance: 18.81

sample: UtahWhite
distance: 23.26

sample: Orcadian
distance: 23.66

sample: Sweden
distance: 25.16

sample: Sicily_Croatia
distance: 26.81

sample: Montenegran
distance: 27.81

sample: Moldavian
distance: 30.29

sample: Croat
distance: 33.73

sample: Serb
distance: 33.73


mix: 50% UtahWhite + 50% Moldavian
distance: 7.2

mix: 50% UtahWhite + 50% Sicily Croatia
distance: 7.52

mix: 50% Hungarians + 50% UtahWhite
distance: 8.58

mix: 50% GreatBritain + 50% Hungarians
distance: 8.84

mix: 50% Orcadian + 50% Moldavian
distance: 9.64

mix: 50% Orcadian + 50% Sicily Croatia
distance: 10.23

mix: 50% GreatBritain + 50% Sicily Croatia
distance: 10.65

mix: 50% GreatBritain + 50% Moldavian
distance: 11.2

mix: 50% UtahWhite + 50% Croat
distance: 11.36

mix: 50% Hungarians + 50% Orcadian
distance: 11.6

[paradox]

Hi Voskos 🙂
My results are from yourdnaportal as it's easier to do on my phone

Tolan K14M1

NorthWest Euro 14.69%
NorthCentral Euro 13.97%
NorthEast Euro 7.79%
SouthWest Euro 5.88%
SouthEast Euro 25.21%
Anatolia 9.26%
East Anatolia 12.60%
Caspian Sea 0.00%
Persic Gulf 10.44%
North Africa & Arabia 0.17%
Equatorial Africa 0.00%
South Himalayas 0.00%
SouthEast Asia 0.00%
NorthEast Asia 0.00%
--------------------
My father's
Tolan K14M1

NorthWest Euro 16.91%
NorthCentral Euro 21.15%
NorthEast Euro 9.91%
SouthWest Euro 9.02%
SouthEast Euro 23.06%
Anatolia 6.52%
East Anatolia 8.68%
Caspian Sea 0.00%
Persic Gulf 4.30%
North Africa & Arabia 0.45%
Equatorial Africa 0.00%
South Himalayas 0.00%
SouthEast Asia 0.00%
NorthEast Asia 0.00%

[frankhammer]

Hi Voskos ��
My results are from yourdnaportal as it's easier to do on my phone



Wasn't this a stand-alone piece of software from a couple of years back?

[PaulieVanZant]

NorthWest Euro 27.39%
NorthCentral Euro 34.10%
NorthEast Euro 11.88%
SouthWest Euro 19.19%
SouthEast Euro 0.00%
Anatolia 7.45%
East Anatolia 0.00%
Caspian Sea 0.00%
Persic Gulf 0.00%
North Africa & Arabia 0.00%
Equatorial Africa 0.00%
South Himalayas 0.00%
SouthEast Asia 0.00%
NorthEast Asia 0.00%

Sweden 1.246112
Hungarian 1.704666
British 2.28404
Polish 2.411599
Croat 2.429534
Moldavian 2.851381
Orcadian 3.021722
Montenegran 3.772877

[paradox]

Wasn't this a stand-alone piece of software from a couple of years back?

Yes, it's been updated several times since then and oracles for your results were added. There's also an optional section now which requires you to pay to get results.

[drb234]

Component %
A-NorthWest_Euro 53.61%
B-NorthCentral_Euro 13.27%
C-NorthEast_Euro 12.49%
D-SouthWest_Euro 17.09%
E-SouthEast_Euro 3.52%
F-Anatolia 0.02%
H-Caspian-Sea 0.01%

1 UtahWhite @ 7.371
2 Orcadian @ 9.181
3 GreatBritain @ 13.347
4 Sweden @ 36.510
5 Montenegran @ 38.644
6 Hungarians @ 38.827
7 Kosovar @ 46.234
8 Serb @ 47.185
9 Sicily_Croatia @ 48.266
10 Gagauz @ 48.406

[Pedro Ruben]

NorthWest Euro 29.81%
NorthCentral Euro 3.78%
NorthEast Euro 8.96%
SouthWest Euro 38.43%
SouthEast Euro 0.00%
Anatolia 0.00%
East Anatolia 2.19%
Caspian Sea 0.00%
Persic Gulf 0.00%
North Africa & Arabia 15.57%
Equatorial Africa 1.26%
South Himalayas 0.00%
SouthEast Asia 0.00%
NorthEast Asia 0.00%

[Impaler]

Father:

Components %
A-NorthWest_Euro 12.56
B-NorthCentral_Euro 14.31
C-NorthEast_Euro 2.47
D-SouthWest_Euro 4.65
E-SouthEast_Euro 8.70
F-Anatolia 34.50
G-East-Anatolia 0.00
H-Caspian-Sea 0.00
I-Persic-Gulf 14.15
J-North-Africa&Arabia 0.00
K-Equatorial-Africa 0.00
L-South-Himalayas 8.65
M-SouthEast_Asia 0.00
N-NorthEast_Asia 0.00

Mixed Mode:
1 70.70% Bosnian_Bosnian + 29.30% Syrians @ 14.892
2 83.98% Bosnian_Bosnian + 16.02% Abhkasians @ 15.662
3 87.11% Bosnian_Bosnian + 12.89% Balkar @ 16.934
4 50.39% Syrians + 49.61% Bosnian_Bosnian @ 16.946
5 88.67% Bosnian_Bosnian + 11.33% Ossetian @ 17.064
6 87.89% Bosnian_Bosnian + 12.11% Romanians @ 17.297
7 89.45% Bosnian_Bosnian + 10.55% Kumyks @ 17.376
8 91.80% Bosnian_Bosnian + 8.20% Bulgarians @ 17.868
9 92.58% Bosnian_Bosnian + 7.42% Adygei @ 17.877
10 91.80% Bosnian_Bosnian + 8.20% Georgian @ 17.939

[Rius]

from yourdnaportal

Population
Percentage
NorthWest Euro
0.00%
NorthCentral Euro
4.98%
NorthEast Euro
5.90%
SouthWest Euro
0.00%
SouthEast Euro
12.48%
Anatolia
22.69%
East Anatolia
30.42%
Caspian Sea
7.40%
Persic Gulf
8.90%
North Africa & Arabia
0.00%
Equatorial Africa
0.00%
South Himalayas
6.98%
SouthEast Asia
0.00%
NorthEast Asia
0.24%


Admix 2 Oracle
Population
Value
Georgian
50
Turk
50

Admix 4 Oracle
Population
Value
Bosnian
25
Cypriot
25
Georgian
25
Syrian
25

[JamesBond007]

Yourdnaportal version. It is not as flexible but this makes G25 seem like mentally retarded Polack science and it is better than GEDmatch :


NorthWest Euro

50.58%

NorthCentral Euro

16.17%

NorthEast Euro

12.16%

SouthWest Euro

17.16%

SouthEast Euro

0.00%

Anatolia

0.00%

East Anatolia

0.00%

Caspian Sea

2.30%

Persic Gulf

0.00%

North Africa & Arabia

0.00%

Equatorial Africa

0.79%

South Himalayas

0.84%

SouthEast Asia

0.00%

NorthEast Asia

0.00%

Closest population distances

Orcadian

0.563

British

0.941

Sweden

3.238

Hungarian

3.576

Montenegran

3.900

Serb

4.706

Gagauz

4.851

Moldavian

4.983

Admix 2 Oracle
Population

Value

British

50

Orcadian

50

Admix 10% - min
Population

Value

Orcadian

70

British

30

[gixajo]

From Genoplot:

Sample:mokordo ► gixajoMH-raw
Calculator:Tolan K14
Results:SouthWest Euro58.28
NorthWest Euro17.84
NorthCentral Euro9.81
North-Africa&Arabia5.31
Anatolia4.5
NorthEast Euro4.26

Oracles.

Mixed mode:

Mixed OraclesDistance87% Spaniard + 13% Sweden7.49
85% Spaniard + 15% GreatBritain7.51
87.2% Spaniard + 12.8% Orcadian7.64
87% Spaniard + 13% Hungarians7.91
86.8% Spaniard + 13.2% UtahWhite8.19
89.2% Spaniard + 10.8% Pole pole12p8.2
87.2% Spaniard + 12.8% Sicily Croatia8.38
88.6% Spaniard + 11.4% Greek8.63
87.2% Spaniard + 12.8% Croat8.65
89.2% Spaniard + 10.8% Montenegran8.67

2 Way mode:

2 Way OraclesDistance50% French Basque + 50% GreatBritain8.82
50% French Basque + 50% Orcadian11.02
50% Spaniard + 50% Spaniard11.33
50% French Basque + 50% UtahWhite11.56
50% French Basque + 50% Hungarians12.36
50% French Basque + 50% Sweden13.46
50% French Basque + 50% Sicily Croatia16.29
50% French Basque + 50% Montenegran16.33
50% Spaniard + 50% Italian N17.34
50% French Basque + 50% Moldavian18.91
50% French Basque + 50% Croat19.18
50% French Basque + 50% Kosovar19.35
50% French Basque + 50% Serb19.61
50% French Basque + 50% Pole pole12p19.89
50% French Basque + 50% Pole Pole20.11
50% French Basque + 50% Bosnian Bosnian20.12
50% French Basque + 50% Greek20.41
50% French Basque + 50% Gagauz20.53
50% Spaniard + 50% GreatBritain21.34
50% French Basque + 50% AshkenazyJews Romanian Jew21.83

4 way mode:

4 Way OraclesDistance25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% UtahWhite + 25% Hungarians7.06
25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% French Basque + 25% Orcadian7.19
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% UtahWhite + 25% Sicily Croatia7.5
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% Hungarians + 25% Orcadian7.52
25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% French Basque + 25% GreatBritain7.61
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% Sicily Croatia + 25% Orcadian7.74
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% GreatBritain + 25% Hungarians7.88
25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% French Basque + 25% Sweden8.11
25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% French Basque + 25% Hungarians8.46
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% Croat + 25% UtahWhite8.55
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% UtahWhite + 25% Sweden8.6
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% UtahWhite + 25% Moldavian8.74
25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% French Basque + 25% UtahWhite8.79
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% Croat + 25% Orcadian8.8
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% GreatBritain + 25% GreatBritain8.82
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% Moldavian + 25% Orcadian8.84
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% Bosnian Bosnian + 25% Orcadian8.86
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% UtahWhite + 25% Pole pole12p9
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% GreatBritain + 25% Sicily Croatia9.03
25% French Basque + 25% French Basque + 25% UtahWhite + 25% Bosnian Bosnian9.04

[oszkar07]

YourDNAportal

Population
Percentage

NorthWest Euro
33.47%

NorthCentral Euro
17.00%

NorthEast Euro
21.08%

SouthWest Euro
17.00%

SouthEast Euro
3.81%

Anatolia
7.65%

East Anatolia
0.00%
Caspian Sea
0.00%
Persic Gulf
0.00%
North Africa & Arabia
0.00%
Equatorial Africa
0.00%
South Himalayas
0.00%
SouthEast Asia
0.00%
NorthEast Asia
0.00%


Population
Distance

British
1.510673

Hungarian
1.888678

Orcadian
2.364428

Sweden
2.523467

Montenegran
2.785939

Moldavian
3.036119

Serb
3.377355

Croat
3.379247

Closest population distances
Population
Distance

British
1.511

Hungarian
1.889

Orcadian
2.364

Sweden
2.523

Montenegran
2.786

Moldavian
3.036

Serb
3.377

Croat
3.379

Admix 2 Oracle
Population
Value

Moldavian
50
Orcadian
50

Admix 4 Oracle
Population
Value

British
50
Montenegran
25
Tatar
25

[strike978]

Components %
A-NorthWest_Euro 18.55
B-NorthCentral_Euro 3.34
C-NorthEast_Euro 0.00
D-SouthWest_Euro 27.47
E-SouthEast_Euro 0.00
F-Anatolia 0.00
G-East-Anatolia 1.13
H-Caspian-Sea 0.00
I-Persic-Gulf 0.00
J-North-Africa&Arabia 11.21
K-Equatorial-Africa 26.68
L-South-Himalayas 0.00
M-SouthEast_Asia 0.00
N-NorthEast_Asia 11.62

I guess my Spaniard ancestry also contains the other Northern Euro components in it and my Indigenous American is interpreted as NorthEast Asia on this calculator? The high North African and Arabia I have no idea where that comes from. It is not that high on Ancestry & 23andme test for me at all but it's always high on these calculators. I'm thinking most likely Guanche ancestry from the Canary Islands? A lot of Caribbean Hispanics have ancestry from there.

[Ruderico]

My missus has the most hilarious results ever. She's Portuguese.


NorthWest Euro 35.96%
NorthCentral Euro 5.06%
NorthEast Euro 2.67%
SouthWest Euro 33.83%
SouthEast Euro 7.65%
Anatolia 0.94%
East Anatolia 0.00%
Caspian Sea 0.00%
Persic Gulf 0.00%
North Africa & Arabia 13.29%
Equatorial Africa 0.00%
South Himalayas 0.00%
SouthEast Asia 0.59%
NorthEast Asia 0.00%

Population Distance
British 2.948275
Italian_North 3.069227
Orcadian 3.453813
Serb 3.859689
Spaniard 3.965179
Montenegran 4.066546
Tuscan 4.079376
Ashkenazy_Jewish_Romania 4.162968



Terrible.

[gixajo]

My missus has the most hilarious results ever. She's Portuguese.


NorthWest Euro 35.96%
NorthCentral Euro 5.06%
NorthEast Euro 2.67%
SouthWest Euro 33.83%
SouthEast Euro 7.65%
Anatolia 0.94%
East Anatolia 0.00%
Caspian Sea 0.00%
Persic Gulf 0.00%
North Africa & Arabia 13.29%
Equatorial Africa 0.00%
South Himalayas 0.00%
SouthEast Asia 0.59%
NorthEast Asia 0.00%

Population Distance
British 2.948275
Italian_North 3.069227
Orcadian 3.453813
Serb 3.859689
Spaniard 3.965179
Montenegran 4.066546
Tuscan 4.079376
Ashkenazy_Jewish_Romania 4.162968



Terrible.

That´s YourDnaPortal results?

I forgot my password and I cannot enter there, but I will try to check if I can go into and see the difference with Genoplot results...:picard1:

[gixajo]

I got it:

YourDNAportal results:


Population
Percentage
NorthWest Euro
17.83%
NorthCentral Euro
9.83%
NorthEast Euro
4.24%
SouthWest Euro
58.28%
SouthEast Euro
0.00%
Anatolia
4.51%
East Anatolia
0.00%
Caspian Sea
0.00%
Persic Gulf
0.00%
North Africa & Arabia
5.31%
Equatorial Africa
0.00%
South Himalayas
0.00%
SouthEast Asia
0.00%
NorthEast Asia
0.00%

Oracle

Population
Value
Spaniard
85.4
Sweden
5.6
Orcadian
5.4
Greek
3.6

Closest population distances
Population
Distance
Spaniard
1.134342
Italian_North
3.512378
British
4.900377
Serb
5.030695
Croat
5.072903
Tuscan
5.186989
Sardinian
5.37929
Hungarian
5.452512

Admix 2 Oracle
Population
Value
Spaniard
100

Admix 4 Oracle
Population
Value
Spaniard
75
British
25

Admix 10% - min
Population
Value
Spaniard
80
Croat
10
Orcadian
10

Admix 1% - min
Population
Value
Spaniard
85
Orcadian
5
Sweden
5
Greek
4
British
1

[Ruderico]

That´s YourDnaPortal results?

I forgot my password and I cannot enter there, but I will try to check if I can go into and see the difference with Genoplot results...:picard1:

Yeah, the issue isn't yourDNAportal, which is a perfectly good site, it's the ADMIXTURE test itself that's just pretty bad.


I mean, look at the silly model it ended up with:

Population Value
Orcadian 43
Spaniard 28
Tuscan 14
Mozabite 11
Italian_North 4

[alexmegas777]

Component %
A-NorthWest_Euro 10.59%
B-NorthCentral_Euro 20.36%
C-NorthEast_Euro 9.66%
D-SouthWest_Euro 31.99%
E-SouthEast_Euro 0.22%
F-Anatolia 25.76%
G-East-Anatolia 1.43%

[Nurzat]

sorted high to low %

NorthCentral Euro 23.47%
NorthEast Euro 19.31%
NorthWest Euro 16.29%
SouthEast Euro 12.14%
SouthWest Euro 11.90%
Anatolia 11.81%
Caspian Sea 3.87%
Persic Gulf 1.20%
East Anatolia -
North Africa & Arabia -
Equatorial Africa -
South Himalayas -
SouthEast Asia -
NorthEast Asia -


distance

Hungarian 0.867224
Moldavian 1.25049
Croat 1.976873
Montenegrin 2.460668
Polish 2.646286
Serb 2.662984
Gagauz 2.674926
Sweden 2.739666

[alnortedelsur]

Component %
A-NorthWest_Euro 26.29%
B-NorthCentral_Euro 4.68%
C-NorthEast_Euro 1.98%
D-SouthWest_Euro 31.18%
E-SouthEast_Euro 3.99%
F-Anatolia 10.16%
G-East-Anatolia 0.90%
J-North-Africa&Arabia 10.71%
K-Equatorial-Africa 3.84%
N-NorthEast_Asia 6.26%

Oracle Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
v1.9 01/08/2020

Finished reading population data. 185 populations found.
14 components mode.

A distance calculation method.

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Mixed Mode:
1 50.39% Montenegran + 49.61% Spaniard @ 18.255
2 50.39% Spaniard + 49.61% Montenegran @ 18.265
3 51.17% Spaniard + 48.83% Orcadian @ 21.091
4 50.39% Orcadian + 49.61% Spaniard @ 21.109
5 54.30% UtahWhite + 45.70% Spaniard @ 21.602
6 57.42% UtahWhite + 42.58% ItalyJew @ 21.692
7 57.42% UtahWhite + 42.58% MoroccanJews @ 21.741
8 50.39% Spaniard + 49.61% UtahWhite @ 21.773
9 69.92% Montenegran + 30.08% French_Basque @ 21.926
10 55.86% GreatBritain + 44.14% Spaniard @ 21.990

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Italian_N @ 31.932
2 100% Kosovar @ 33.249
3 100% GreatBritain @ 33.455
4 100% UtahWhite @ 34.558
5 100% Serb @ 35.010
6 100% Montenegran @ 37.961
7 100% Hungarians @ 38.298
8 100% AshkenazyJews_Romanian_Jew @ 38.515
9 100% Spaniard @ 38.569
10 100% Gagauz @ 38.661

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Montenegran + 50% Spaniard @ 18.258
2 50% Spaniard + 50% Orcadian @ 21.100
3 50% UtahWhite + 50% Spaniard @ 21.745
4 50% AshkenazyJews_Romanian_Jew + 50% Spaniard @ 22.020
5 50% Spaniard + 50% Greek @ 22.202
6 50% UtahWhite + 50% ItalyJew @ 22.211
7 50% UtahWhite + 50% MoroccanJews @ 22.218
8 50% GreatBritain + 50% Spaniard @ 22.227
9 50% Kosovar + 50% Spaniard @ 22.569
10 50% Hungarians + 50% Spaniard @ 22.679

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Spaniard + 33% Orcadian + 33% ItalyJew @ 16.189
2 33% Spaniard + 33% Orcadian + 33% FranceJew @ 16.387
3 33% Spaniard + 33% Orcadian + 33% MoroccanJews @ 16.487
4 33% AshkenazyJews_Romanian_Jew + 33% Spaniard + 33% Orcadian @ 16.599
5 33% Spaniard + 33% Orcadian + 33% Greek @ 16.832
6 33% Spaniard + 33% Orcadian + 33% AlgeriaJew @ 16.998
7 33% Kosovar + 33% UtahWhite + 33% Spaniard @ 17.053
8 33% Spaniard + 33% Orcadian + 33% Syrians @ 17.128
9 33% UtahWhite + 33% Montenegran + 33% Spaniard @ 17.473
10 33% Kosovar + 33% GreatBritain + 33% Spaniard @ 17.848

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% Orcadian + 25% Syrians @ 16.152
2 25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% Orcadian + 25% Turks @ 16.845
3 25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% Orcadian + 25% Greek @ 17.036
4 25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% Orcadian + 25% AlgeriaJew @ 17.222
5 25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% Orcadian + 25% FranceJew @ 17.692
6 25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% Orcadian + 25% Egyptans @ 17.735
7 25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% Orcadian + 25% Uzbeks @ 17.959
8 25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% Orcadian + 25% AshkenazyJews @ 18.035
9 25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% Orcadian + 25% ItalyJew @ 18.177
10 25% Spaniard + 25% Spaniard + 25% Gagauz + 25% French @ 18.188

[Rafael Passoni]

YourDNAportal:
Population
Percentage
NorthWest Euro
20.43%
NorthCentral Euro
7.11%
NorthEast Euro
0.00%
SouthWest Euro
31.88%
SouthEast Euro
19.22%
Anatolia
0.00%
East Anatolia
21.36%
Caspian Sea
0.00%
Persic Gulf
0.00%
North Africa & Arabia
0.00%
Equatorial Africa
0.00%
South Himalayas
0.00%
SouthEast Asia
0.00%
NorthEast Asia
0.00%
Closest population distances
Population
Distance
Italian_South
2.066724
Serb
2.339716
Tuscan
2.366304
Italian_North
2.477526
Sicily
2.498426
Ashkenazy_Jewish_Romania
2.684012
Italy_Jewish
2.916097
Ashkenazy_Jewish
3.162249

Population percentages
Population
Value
Spaniard
28.8
Italian_South
25.2
Cypriot
19.8
Orcadian
13
Italian_North
12
Macedonian
1.2