PERFECTED G25 ancient calc for Balkan and central Europe.

[Jana]

If you are not a Balkanite or central European don't bother with this calc, it is NOT for you.
and don't ask me about components, I took a lengthy process of making them and am not in mood for explaining.

Works very well with simulated coords as well.

Enjoy!


Balkanic,0.1162133,0.1472518,0.0015463,-0.0336889,0.0200651,-0.0107373,-0.0015511,-0.0020998,0.0029657,0.0226154,0.0034262,0.00577,-0.0086519,-0.0020643,-0.011414,-0.0039775,0.0049935,0.0000634,0.0048393,-0.0064029,-0.0030071,0.0018054,-0.0014421,0.0013494,-0.0024908
Germanic,0.13185039,0.13400473,0.065852174,0.05144 9473,0.040839107,0.019622701,0.0048337577,0.006533 846,0.0045802409,-0.0011896603,-0.0052932873,0.0041398085,-0.0093318535,-0.0076697913,0.019491262,0.0061926581,-0.0073439687,0.0021540882,0.0029404031,0.003555934 5,0.0054699622,0.0025049347,0.0009632849,0.0136364 77,0.00034632978
Keltic,0.1262678,0.14291874,0.0529478,0.0265506,0. 0411768,0.00650774,0.00087734,0.00346154,0.0118078 ,0.01857594,-0.00224114,0.00730346,-0.01704634,-0.00830326,0.0111018,0.00487934,0.00158194,0.00141 92,0.00797774,0.0035852,0.00657186,0.00231654,-0.002087,-0.00283554,-0.00153274
Slavic,0.13024614,0.12926257,0.076663143,0.0706908 57,0.043612571,0.026016571,0.011146286,0.013944286 ,0.002571,-0.022154857,-0.0018327143,-0.0087992857,0.016968571,0.027190286,-0.013300429,-0.0014205714,0.004079,-0.00063342857,0.0032142857,0.0048774286,-0.0059715714,-0.0060411429,0.008152,-0.0079871429,0.000308
Steppe_nomad,0.087750237,-0.10698467,0.065799352,0.049239255,-0.046449186,-0.0018410197,0.0064061424,0.0070030455,-0.010320953,-0.028252853,0.0090512939,-0.00071199697,0.0074175621,-0.036142632,0.0012460953,0.0018680107,-0.00086108183,0.0015056121,-0.0024035864,-0.0030386152,-0.009896453,0.0085941106,0.0036687424,0.002250447,-0.0036127379

[Selene]

Target: Sylvanas
Distance: 0.7820% / 0.00782012
55.0 Slavic
35.2 Balkanic
7.4 Germanic
2.4 Steppe_nomad

Distance to: Sylvanas
0.05533948 Keltic
0.05562576 Germanic
0.05902988 Slavic
0.09615681 Balkanic
0.26133700 Steppe_nomad

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.0153% / 0.01526805
55.5 Slavic
42.1 Balkanic
2.4 Steppe_nomad

[Marsa]

Target: Marsa
Distance: 0.7894% / 0.00789361
44.8 Balkanic
42.2 Slavic
13.0 Germanic


Target: Marsa_sister
Distance: 0.9853% / 0.00985306
51.2 Slavic
38.2 Balkanic
9.4 Keltic
1.2 Steppe_nomad

[Arianit]

Target: Arianit_scaled
Distance: 3.5702% / 0.03570178
86.0 Balkanic
11.0 Slavic
3.0 Steppe_nomad

[Kiel]

Distance to: Kiel_simulated_g25_scaled
0.03216572 Germanic
0.03466198 Keltic
0.07124121 Slavic
0.09730917 Balkanic
0.26234169 Steppe_nomad

[Arianit]

Distance to: Kiel_simulated_g25_scaled
0.03216572 Germanic
0.03466198 Keltic
0.07124121 Slavic
0.09730917 Balkanic
0.26234169 Steppe_nomad

Try posting your results from the "Single" tab aswell.

https://i.imgur.com/kV1PIfm.png

[Jana]

Target: Feiichy
Distance: 0.0121% / 0.01206750

57.6 Slavic
29.1 Balkanic
10.1 Keltic
3.2 Germanic

[Thracian]

For fun, not bad distances anyway

Target: Thracian_scaled
Distance: 2.9798% / 0.02979850
75.4 Balkanic
12.6 Steppe_nomad
12.0 Slavic

And simulated one

Target: Thraciank36_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.3334% / 0.02333360
79.0 Balkanic
10.6 Slavic
10.4 Steppe_nomad

[hazmatnik]

My family results

https://i.postimg.cc/Y06fRky7/Screenshot-20220615-100523-Chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/30wvJMTf)

[Jana]

results of my friends & family

https://i.imgur.com/UAjmvhL.png

[Jana]

Target: Marsa
Distance: 0.7894% / 0.00789361
44.8 Balkanic
42.2 Slavic
13.0 Germanic


Target: Marsa_sister
Distance: 0.9853% / 0.00985306
51.2 Slavic
38.2 Balkanic
9.4 Keltic
1.2 Steppe_nomad

Quite cool how results can differ between siblings :)

[gixajo]

As self-perceived South Slav and honorary Central European because of my Ydna I have the right to run this calculator:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.4161% / 0.03416110
75.8 Keltic
24.2 Balkanic

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 4.0319% / 0.04031869
57.8 Keltic
42.2 Balkanic

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 3.7366% / 0.03736568
88.2 Keltic
11.8 Balkanic

Distances:

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.04061933 Keltic
0.07675555 Balkanic
0.07800251 Germanic
0.12059851 Slavic
0.29244412 Steppe_nomad

Distance to: gixajo_dad_scaled
0.05553856 Keltic
0.06620701 Balkanic
0.09338260 Germanic
0.13286180 Slavic
0.29621025 Steppe_nomad

Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
0.03886663 Keltic
0.07073608 Germanic
0.08830863 Balkanic
0.11691605 Slavic
0.29152093 Steppe_nomad

[Marsa]

Quite cool how results can differ between siblings :)

*Half-sister :)
But I've seen it among full siblings too

[Coolguy1]

Try posting your results from the "Single" tab aswell.

https://i.imgur.com/kV1PIfm.png

Do you mind posting your G25 coordinates?

[Impaler]

Target: Impaler
Distance: 3.0293% / 0.03029326
67.0 Balkanic
18.4 Slavic
12.2 Steppe_nomad
2.4 Germanic

[Kiel]

Try posting your results from the "Single" tab aswell.

https://i.imgur.com/kV1PIfm.png

Target: Kiel_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.6854% / 0.00685441
56.8 Germanic
24.4 Balkanic
17.0 Slavic
1.8 Steppe_nomad

[Kiel]

Do you mind posting your G25 coordinates?

Me or Arianit?

[Coolguy1]

Me or Arianit?

Arianit

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.5896% / 0.02589649
52.4 Germanic
28.8 Slavic
18.8 Balkanic

[JohnnyP]

A Few Macedonians , what is Balkanic reference ?
https://i.imgur.com/lh6UzM0.png

Me
Target: jp
Distance: 1.0135% / 0.01013495
67.8 Balkanic
29.0 Slavic
3.2 Keltic

[Jana]

what is Balkanic reference ?

I made it myself, by composing of many ancient Balkan samples we had so far.

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.1632% / 0.02163235
77.4 Father_scaled
18.0 Keltic
4.6 Balkanic


Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.2566% / 0.02256593
89.2 Gallop_scaled
5.6 Balkanic
5.2 Slavic


FTDNA gives me 3% Slavic and my father nothing and in G25 the other way round hehehe

[Terminator98]

Interesting.

Target: Terminator.G25.simulation
Distance: 2.0011% / 0.02001114
53.0 Slavic
47.0 Balkanic

[gixajo]

Just as curiosity, checking with this calculator some references I make time ago searching for references that could be used as Germanic component:

Target: Goths_Kowalewko&Weklice
Distance: 1.9237% / 0.01923693
81.0 Germanic
16.6 Slavic
2.4 Steppe_nomad

Target: Germanic_Medieval(Alemannic&Baiuvaric)
Distance: 1.0426% / 0.01042577
90.6 Germanic
6.8 Keltic
2.0 Steppe_nomad
0.6 Balkanic

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01800000 Germanic
0.04701953 Keltic
0.07841731 Slavic
0.12245420 Balkanic
0.26832509 Steppe_nomad

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7684% / 0.01768442
97.4 Germanic
2.6 Balkanic

[Luke35]

Okay, rocking the simulated from K36 coordinates this time:


Target: Mr.G_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.8415% / 0.00841506
46.4 Germanic
26.8 Balkanic
26.4 Slavic
0.4 Steppe_nomad

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Mama:

Target: Mom_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.5436% / 0.00543627
76.2 Germanic
14.6 Balkanic
9.0 Keltic
0.2 Slavic

[Gergő Marosvári]

Not bad! And the Germanic percentage seems about accurate too.

Target: Gergő
Distance: 0.7006% / 0.00700638
59.4 Slavic
26.0 Balkanic
9.8 Germanic
4.8 Steppe_nomad

[mariusz99]

Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.9766% / 0.01976554 | ADC: 0.5x RC
69.8 Slavic
26.2 Germanic
4.0 Steppe_nomad

[vlrs-2]

Target: V_scaled
Distance: 2.1015% / 0.02101480
57.6 Balkanic
40.8 Slavic
1.6 Steppe_nomad

[Oturan Boğa]

Target: OturanBoga_scaled
Distance: 5.7164% / 0.05716365
68.0 Balkanic
32.0 Steppe_nomad

Distance to: OturanBoga_scaled
0.10981774 Balkanic
0.14834769 Keltic
0.16178747 Germanic
0.17713383 Slavic
0.20715004 Steppe_nomad

[alexmegas777]

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.2911% / 0.02291079
57.6 Balkanic
31.2 Slavic
6.8 Keltic
4.4 Germanic

[RyoHazuki]

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.4511% / 0.03451147
88.0 Germanic
12.0 Balkanic

[drb234]

Not bad distance for a person who isnt from the balkans.
Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.9011% / 0.01901128
63.8 Germanic
36.2 Keltic

[paradox]

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 2.1823% / 0.02182274
77.8 Balkanic
20.0 Slavic
2.2 Steppe_nomad

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.4430% / 0.02442993
61.8 Balkanic
37.0 Slavic
1.2 Steppe_nomad

[Arianit]

Arianit

Hey. Here are my scaled G25 co-ordinates :

Arianit_scaled,0.126344,0.136081,0.011314,-0.021641,0.017542,-0.008925,0.00517,0.000692,-0.000409,0.016948,0.003735,-0.002098,-0.007136,0.004404,-0.019679,0.005967,0.029076,0.002154,0.007919,-0.001126,-0.015722,-0.000618,0.002342,0.011447,-0.001317

[Arianit]

Target: Arianit_scaled
Distance: 3.5702% / 0.03570178
86.0 Balkanic
11.0 Slavic
3.0 Steppe_nomad

So far it seems that I have the highest Balkanic out of everyone here who's posted results.

[Coastal Elite]

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.6294% / 0.00629362
63.0 Germanic
31.8 Balkanic
4.8 Slavic
0.4 Steppe_nomad

Distance to: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
0.02923351 Keltic
0.03985433 Germanic
0.08459374 Slavic
0.08567117 Balkanic
0.26776898 Steppe_nomad

[Catnip]

It's not so bad for me neither, distance is low. 'Balkan' is closest to which modern ethnicity?

Target: Catnip
Distance: 0.8815% / 0.00881452
39.2 Germanic
29.2 Keltic
25.6 Balkanic
6.0 Slavic

[Dušan]

'Balkan' is closest to which modern ethnicity?


If this https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/105/Marques%20DNA%20calculator%202022.htm put in sources:



Distance to: Balkanic
0.01169540 South_Italy:Italian_Abruzzo_(Abruzzese)
0.01268313 South_Italy:Italian_Apulia_(Apulian)
0.01550788 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Marche_(Marchigiano)
0.01622874 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Umbria_(Umbrian)
0.01659374 South_Italy:Italian_Lazio_(Lazian)


Distance to: Slavic
0.01208464 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.01406284 Baltic:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija
0.01490421 East_Europe:Russian_Smolensk
0.01568235 Baltic:Lithuanian_West_Aukstaitija
0.01712229 East_Europe:Ukrainian_Rivne


Distance to: Germanic
0.00336872 Scandinavian:Danish
0.00718107 Scandinavian:Norwegian
0.00975841 Scotland:Orcadian
0.01082647 Scandinavian:Icelandic
0.01115405 Ireland:Irish_Ulster_simulated


Distance to: Keltic
0.01659880 SW_France:French_Occitan_Occitanie_Haute_Garonne
0.01859496 Germanic_europe:Swiss_German
0.01891535 North_West_Europe:French_Oïl_Hauts-de-France_Nord
0.01910091 North_West_Europe:French_Occitan_Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes_Puy-de-Dome
0.01919273 Germanic_europe:German_Saarland_simulated


Distance to: Steppe_nomad
0.03325245 Volga_Oural:Bashkir
0.03433840 Volga_Oural:Bashkir_Kugarchinsky
0.06989610 Central_Siberia:Ket_o2
0.07067802 Volga_Oural:Bashkir_Miyakinsky
0.07169993 South_Siberia:Tofalar_o

[Catnip]

If this https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/105/Marques%20DNA%20calculator%202022.htm put in sources
Interesting, thanks à lot

[vasiliki23]

Distance to: VASILIKI_scaled
0.04042002 Balkanic
0.06958620 Keltic
0.10178251 Germanic
0.12676381 Slavic
0.28963120 Steppe_nomad

Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 2.6876% / 0.02687637
75.0 Balkanic
14.0 Slavic
11.0 Keltic

[cakmir7y]

Target: cakmir7y
Distance: 2.0678% / 0.02067840
51.6 Slavic
22.6 Keltic
16.6 Germanic
7.4 Balkanic
1.8 Steppe_nomad

[Kaspias]

Target: Kaspias_scaled
Distance: 3.0809% / 0.03080932
60.6 Balkanic
24.6 Steppe_nomad
14.8 Slavic

Target: Kaspias_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9831% / 0.01983134
59.8 Balkanic
40.2 Steppe_nomad

[CommonSense]

Target: CommonSense_G25_simulated
Distance: 0.8694% / 0.00869415
47.8 Slavic
47.0 Balkanic
3.8 Germanic
1.4 Steppe_nomad

[Hulu]

So far it seems that I have the highest Balkanic out of everyone here who's posted results.

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 3.1082% / 0.03108210
93.2 Balkanic
6.4 Slavic
0.4 Steppe_nomad



Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.03273612 Balkanic
0.09154222 Keltic
0.12628771 Germanic
0.14656301 Slavic
0.28931491 Steppe_nomad

[Hulu]

Interesting.

Target: Terminator.G25.simulation
Distance: 2.0011% / 0.02001114
53.0 Slavic
47.0 Balkanic

I would have expected you to have some steppe nomad lol

Suprprised Kaspias has that much

[Jana]

Not bad distance for a person who isnt from the balkans.
Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.9011% / 0.01901128
63.8 Germanic
36.2 Keltic

It won't be realistic for NW Euros thogh. Central European Keltic samples I used are genetically pretty different from insular Celts (more southern, which will artificialy inflate Germanic)


It's not so bad for me neither, distance is low. 'Balkan' is closest to which modern ethnicity?

Target: Catnip
Distance: 0.8815% / 0.00881452
39.2 Germanic
29.2 Keltic
25.6 Balkanic
6.0 Slavic

Your result could pass for Austrian kind of.

[Nurzat]

Distance to: Nurzat
0.05635637 Keltic
0.06180508 Germanic
0.06862570 Slavic
0.09025590 Balkanic
0.25961252 Steppe_nomad

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7628% / 0.01762765
51.2 Slavic
40.6 Balkanic
4.6 Germanic
3.6 Steppe_nomad

closest to Keltic but in the mix model I get no Keltic :cry2

[Bessarion]

Distance to: Bojan_scaled
0.05055097 Keltic
0.05198091 Germanic
0.06942092 Slavic
0.09412010 Balkanic
0.26166862 Steppe_nomad


Target: Bojan_scaled
Distance: 2.2026% / 0.02202634
37.8 Slavic
33.6 Balkanic
26.0 Germanic
2.6 Steppe_nomad

[Nausevar]

Target: Nausevar_scaled
Distance: 2.4710% / 0.02470996
54.2 Balkanic
44.2 Slavic
1.6 Keltic

Distance to: Nausevar_scaled
0.05629895 Keltic
0.07325827 Balkanic
0.07540333 Germanic
0.08800445 Slavic
0.27329256 Steppe_nomad

[de Burgh II]

Distance to: de_Burgh_II
0.01254893 Germanic
0.03589534 Keltic
0.07966035 Slavic
0.11554600 Balkanic
0.26880964 Steppe_nomad

Target: de_Burgh_II
Distance: 0.6906% / 0.00690557
79.4 Germanic
18.8 Keltic
1.8 Balkanic

[Scandal]

Target: Univ_simulated_by_vbnetkhio
Distance: 0.7116% / 0.00711567 | R3P
60.0 Slavic
25.6 Balkanic
14.4 Germanic

[noricum]

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04705732 Germanic
0.05415792 Keltic
0.05730527 Slavic
0.10884440 Balkanic
0.27303318 Steppe_nomad

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.4227% / 0.02422706
46.0 Slavic
30.8 Germanic
23.2 Balkanic

[someonenotyou]

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.6559% / 0.01655913
36.8 Germanic
32.4 Balkanic
28.8 Slavic
2.0 Steppe_nomad

Distance to: scaled
0.04407942 Keltic
0.04616545 Germanic
0.07190485 Slavic
0.09144353 Balkanic
0.26299310 Steppe_nomad

[Jana]

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.6559% / 0.01655913
36.8 Germanic
32.4 Balkanic
28.8 Slavic
2.0 Steppe_nomad

Distance to: scaled
0.04407942 Keltic
0.04616545 Germanic
0.07190485 Slavic
0.09144353 Balkanic
0.26299310 Steppe_nomad

I guess you have Swabian roots other than Hungarian.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Target: Fellow_scaled
Distance: 2.1968% / 0.02196831
45.6 Balkanic
35.2 Slavic
10.2 Keltic
6.2 Germanic
2.8 Steppe_nomad


Distance to: Fellow_scaled
0.04926650 Keltic
0.06629945 Germanic
0.07605729 Balkanic
0.08520628 Slavic
0.26472271 Steppe_nomad

[alnortedelsur]

I know I'm neither Balkan nor Central Euro, but decided to participate just for fun xD:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 6.6340% / 0.06634016
52.6 Balkanic
33.6 Keltic
13.8 Steppe_nomad

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08798388 Balkanic
0.09011120 Keltic
0.11308853 Germanic
0.14330118 Slavic
0.25345735 Steppe_nomad

[rothaer]

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.4215% / 0.01421485
44.8 Germanic
38.0 Slavic
15.8 Keltic
0.8 Steppe_nomad
0.6 Balkanic

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.8845% / 0.01884521
73.0 Germanic
26.0 Slavic
1.0 Steppe_nomad

[Jingle Bell]

i know im not european but i tried this calculator, i added SSA, MENA and Native samples to be better to me:
115574
Looks good to me
Edit: "result" target is my simulated g25 from k36, and "JingleBell Scaled" is my real g25 from IllustrativeDna

[Freeroostah]

Target: VangosH_scaled
Distance: 2.5647% / 0.02564675
82.2 Balkanic
17.8 Slavic

[MandM]

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.9958% / 0.01995810
63.6 Balkanic
33.4 Slavic
3.0 Steppe_nomad

[Far_away]

Distance: 2.6688% / 0.02668819
55.0 Balkanic
42.0 Slavic
3.0 Keltic

[Cybele]

Simulated

Target: Cybele
Distance: 1.6255% / 0.01625457

51.2 Balkanic
28.0 Germanic
20.2 Slavic
0.6 Steppe_nomad


Distance to: Cybele
0.04328091 Keltic
0.06514294 Germanic
0.06684108 Balkanic
0.09359861 Slavic
0.27091831 Steppe_nomad

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 1.6550% / 0.01655011

90.6 Germanic
6.2 Balkanic
3.2 Steppe_nomad

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 1.0198% / 0.01019784
54.0 Slavic
38.2 Germanic
7.6 Balkanic
0.2 Steppe_nomad

Distance to: cass
0.03715360 Slavic
0.03994919 Germanic
0.06252015 Keltic
0.12768212 Balkanic
0.26523089 Steppe_nomad

[Vitez]

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.5586% / 0.01558638
53.8 Slavic
37.0 Balkanic
6.2 Germanic
3.0 Steppe_nomad

Distance to: Vitez_scaled
0.05455210 Keltic
0.05870367 Germanic
0.06322442 Slavic
0.09455650 Balkanic
0.26058490 Steppe_nomad

[retfala]

Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 0.8935% / 0.00893504
50.1 Slavic
40.3 Balkanic
9 Keltic
0.6 Steppe_nomad

[Voskos]

Target: voskos
Distance: 3.4656% / 0.03465603
100.0 Balkanic

[KrashNick]

Target: KrashNick
Distance: 2.3870% / 0.02386990
63.6 Balkanic
22.0 Keltic
10.6 Slavic
3.8 Steppe_nomad

[Pater Patota]

Distance to: PaterPatota_scaled
0.09070903 Balkanic
0.14945063 Keltic
0.16748406 Germanic
0.19016626 Slavic
0.26207216 Steppe_nomad

Target: PaterPatota_scaled
Distance: 7.9746% / 0.07974579
85.2 Balkanic
14.8 Steppe_nomad

[Katarzyna]

Target: Katarzyna_scaled(sim)
Distance: 1.0369% / 0.01036882
88.6 Slavic
5.2 Germanic
5.0 Balkanic
1.2 Steppe_nomad

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 1.6500% / 0.01650006
75.6 Slavic
22.0 Germanic
2.2 Steppe_nomad
0.2 Balkanic

[Jana]

Target: Katarzyna_scaled(sim)
Distance: 1.0369% / 0.01036882
88.6 Slavic
5.2 Germanic
5.0 Balkanic
1.2 Steppe_nomad

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 1.6500% / 0.01650006
75.6 Slavic
22.0 Germanic
2.2 Steppe_nomad
0.2 Balkanic

I think somebody mentioned it and I agree, you have Polish Pomeranian (not Kashubian though) like results.