Which of these two families would pass more easily in Argentina?

[Tooting Carmen]

(1) https://www.planet.fr/files/styles/pano_xxl/public/images/diaporama/3/7/9/1925973/vignette-focus_0.jpg?itok=Bt4oWbT1https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8kg_WxW0AAP8cu.jpg

(2) https://mamabeaute.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Familia-James.jpghttps://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/infobae/A4BYCJH2GFDYXIAV5OONJWTQ3Q.jpg

[Erronkari]

Probably Number 1 by far but number 2 don’t look off at all either.

[Tooting Carmen]

Probably Number 1 but both do…

Although until now I have always said that Celine Dion looks distinctly French, looking at her again she actually has quite a 'pan-Latin' face, in that she passes to varying degrees quite well in Montpellier, Madeira, Malaga, Milan, Montreal (of course), Monterrey, Medellin and Mendoza. xD

[Erronkari]

Although until now I have always said that Celine Dion looks distinctly French, looking at her again she actually has quite a 'pan-Latin' face, in that she passes to varying degrees quite well in Montpellier, Madeira, Malaga, Milan, Montreal (of course), Monterrey, Medellin and Mendoza. xD

And Buenos Aires/Montevideo/Sao Paulo/Río/Havana. ;)

[Tooting Carmen]

And Buenos Aires/Montevideo/Sao Paulo/Río/Havana. ;)

She's definitely part of the French (descended) spectrum that does overlap strongly with the Spanish and Portuguese-speaking worlds. On the other hand, I cannot imagine Brigitte Bardot or Marine Le Pen passing that well in Argentina except as atypical.

[Erronkari]

She's definitely part of the French (descended) spectrum that does overlap strongly with the Spanish and Portuguese-speaking worlds. On the other hand, I cannot imagine Brigitte Bardot or Marine Le Pen passing that well in Argentina except as atypical.

Marine and Brigitte only pass ok in the Valley of Chubut River among the welsh descendants but also Killye Minogue pass there… :biggrin:
It’s not a parameter, in the biggest cities would be seen as quite atypical women ofc.

[Tooting Carmen]

Marine and Brigitte only pass ok in the Valley of Chubut River among the welsh descendants but also Kylie Minogue pass there… :biggrin:
It’s not a parameter, in the biggest cities would be seen as quite atypical women ofc.

I thought Argentina had a fairly large French community anyway though? And where are they mostly based?

[Andullero]

I thought Argentina had a fairly large French community anyway though? And where are they mostly based?

They do. This Argie expat here is one of those:

https://www.elcaribe.com.do/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/b5fb09e1-jorge-rolando-bauger.jpg

Jorge Rolando Bauger, main promoter of soccer in this country.

[Erronkari]

They do. This Argie expat here is one of those:

https://www.elcaribe.com.do/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/b5fb09e1-jorge-rolando-bauger.jpg

Jorge Rolando Bauger, main promoter of soccer in this country.

And also me… I have ancestors from Mont de Marsan (Aquitaine) and I scored 12% French in Ancestry.com. :biggrin:

[Erronkari]

I thought Argentina had a fairly large French community anyway though? And where are they mostly based?

I am southwest french descendant in a way. :biggrin:
Most of them live in Buenos Aires, BA province, Santa Fe, Entre Rios, Córdoba and La Pampa.

[Tooting Carmen]

And also me… I have ancestors from Mont de Marsan (Aquitaine) and I scored 12% French in Ancestry.com. :biggrin:

Mais je pensais que tu etais espagnol de souche (avec un peu d'italien aussi)?

[Tooting Carmen]

N.B. My great-grandfather was French too.

[Andullero]

Frogs, frogs everywhere, smh.

[Erronkari]

Mais je pensais que tu etais espagnol de souche (avec un peu d'italien aussi)?

oui, le francais c'est la moins importante de mes origines en fait.
Le principal c’est espagnol. :D

[Tooting Carmen]

Frogs, frogs everywhere, smh.

In fairness, once you take out Quebec and Louisiana (and pre-1960 Algeria), they have emigrated far less than have the British, Irish, Dutch, Germans, Portuguese, Spaniards, Italians, Greeks, Poles, Croats...

[Andullero]

In fairness, once you take out Quebec and Louisiana (and pre-1960 Algeria), they have emigrated far less than have the British, Irish, Dutch, Germans, Portuguese, Spaniards, Italians, Greeks, Poles, Croats...

An odd phenomenom indeed, considering the scarcity of land vs the abundance of people plaguing the place since the early modern era. Not even being used as cannon fodder in all those wars from Henri IV onwards was enough to put a cap on the problem, until the revolution came.

[Tooting Carmen]

An odd phenomenom indeed, considering the scarcity of land vs the abundance of people plaguing the place since the early modern era. Not even being used as cannon fodder in all those wars from Henri IV onwards was enough to put a cap on the problem, until the revolution came.

Well compared to a lot of other European countries, even today France is quite sparsely populated relative to its size, and WWII notwithstanding it hasn't had either the dictatorships or severe poverty that to varying degrees have characterised its German, Spanish and Italian neighbours in particular (and many others too).

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Number 1

[Tooting Carmen]

Number 1

Is it a close call or not?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Is it a close call or not?

They seem to be the most common type around here.

[Tooting Carmen]

They seem to be the most common type around here.

Would family two perhaps fit better in Northern Argentina?

[AngloDeutsch]

(1) https://www.planet.fr/files/styles/pano_xxl/public/images/diaporama/3/7/9/1925973/vignette-focus_0.jpg?itok=Bt4oWbT1https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8kg_WxW0AAP8cu.jpg

(2) https://mamabeaute.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Familia-James.jpghttps://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/infobae/A4BYCJH2GFDYXIAV5OONJWTQ3Q.jpg

The first family looks too northern(unless they would be German Argentines or something), the second looks too Amerindian. Most Argentines are a mix of Italian and Spanish so I would expect more unmixed southern Europeans. Something like Javier Bardem, Antonio Banderas(both very average for Spain), Al Pacino(average for Italy) looking people.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Would family two perhaps fit better in Northern Argentina?
Yes for sure.

[Touijer]

(1) https://www.planet.fr/files/styles/pano_xxl/public/images/diaporama/3/7/9/1925973/vignette-focus_0.jpg?itok=Bt4oWbT1https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8kg_WxW0AAP8cu.jpg

(2) https://mamabeaute.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Familia-James.jpghttps://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/infobae/A4BYCJH2GFDYXIAV5OONJWTQ3Q.jpg

They’re the same family but for me picture 1-3-4 definitely pass but 2 looks Jewish

[Tooting Carmen]

They’re the same family but for me picture 1-3-4 definitely pass but 2 looks Jewish

Photos 1 and 2 are Quebecois while photos 3 and 4 are Colombian.