what does this language sound like to you

[Melonman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXZd8PLr3lc&t=90s

https://twitter.com/bsarwary/status/1426248242501754902?s=21

twitter link is just 1 minute, for those who dont want to listen to more than 1 minute to this afghan language

for youtube video, the people start to talk at 1;30

[Melonman]

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[Ranger0075]

Sounds like a mix between Russian and Arab

[Melonman]

Sounds like a mix between Russian and Arab

odd you think that, though youre not the first one to think this afghan language sounds somewhat east european

[Awuddah]

Sounds like a mix between Russian and Arab

My thoughts exactly.

[Rostos vilmoskörte]

Some Dagestani or Chechen language mixed with alot of Allah halla

[Melonman]

Some Dagestani or Chechen language mixed with alot of Allah halla

i doubt you ever heard chechen or dagestani languages before.
i dont think this language sounds anything like dagestani languages


edit;

i take back what i said, it sounds somewhat little similiar

[Blondie]

sounds arabic

[Roy]

It sounds Semitic, but much less guttural than typical Semitic language.

[Melonman]

im suprised by the fact that you people think that this language sounds anything semetic.
somewhat russian, maybe
kurdish, i can understand
hindi and urdu also makes sense



but i really dont think this afghan language sounds semetic at all. this is arabic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VuuM2Colfg

[tk'es]

that sounds like an iranic language, not closer to us to east caucasian languages.. our languages are full of ejective consonants and the most difficult and archaic languages in the world

[Guti]

Agreed. But it is not a Western Iranic language.

I am sure that the Hurrian/Caucasian languages sound much more similar to Kurmanji (Kurdish) than to Eastern Iranic dialects.

I speak Kurmanji (Kurdish) and it is a Northwestern Iranic language. In general I don't understand anything about Eastern Iranic (Pashtun) languages.


Only Persian is very close to Kurdish. Tajiks from Tajikistan and Tajiks from Afghans speak Farsi/Persian (derived from the Middle Persian not a long time ago) and I can hear clearly the kinship.
That is why I hear only a close connection with the Farsi speaking populations in Southcentral Asia, but not with other Eastern Iranic people.

[Melonman]

that sounds like an iranic language, not closer to us to east caucasian languages.. our languages are full of ejective consonants and the most difficult and archaic languages in the world

agree

i can hear some small similiarity, but our languages sound very different to each others.

even ossetian does, and thats an aryan language


https://twitter.com/elbyzdyqo/status/1397643067868520455
https://twitter.com/rajdianos/status/1438502032646705156


guess westerners just arent too good with eastern languages

[Rostos vilmoskörte]

i doubt you ever heard chechen or dagestani languages before.
i dont think this language sounds anything like dagestani languages


edit;

i take back what i said, it sounds somewhat little similiar

Lol.

[Melonman]

hahaha

[Melonman]

bump for this afghan language

[Melonman]

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[Melonman]

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[Melonman]

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[Chron]

Has an Arabic-sounding base, but I can hear what reminds me of Indian and Turkic influence

[Melonman]

Has an Arabic-sounding base, but I can hear what reminds me of Indian and Turkic influence

Another one with the arabic, but indian influence doesnt Sound suprising. Its more the turkis one, thats new to me.
Just for the fun of it, if you dont mind and Can answer this question, could you treat arabic, turkic and indic as components, and make estimate what pashto is made of each by percentage according to your ears? Like example 70% arabic, 20% indic and rest is turkic? You g’et me, right?

[Zoro]

Getting responses such as Arabic or Turkish should tell you that people here aren’t familiar with pashto. You should ask Pashtuns that question and the ones familiar with Iranic languages will tell you Kurdish (Sorani Kurdish sounds a bit closer than Badini Kurdish) from the Iranic languages

Here’s a Sorani kurdish drama. Take a listen



https://youtu.be/ZFX02S064V8

https://i.imgur.com/KqFSHte.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lvCa3Ry.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tZwZvzO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/d6ExusQ.jpg

Reason Kurdish sounds closest to Pashto is both kurds and pashtuns have alot of Parthian/Scythian ancestry

www.Eurasiandna.com
https://i.imgur.com/CBB9KMZ.jpg

Different Kurdish languages are very different from each other. If you want to know about differences




https://youtu.be/5feIFi9C36I

[Melonman]

Getting responses such as Arabic or Turkish should tell you that people here aren’t familiar with pashto. You should ask Pashtuns that question and the ones familiar with Iranic languages will tell you Kurdish (Sorani Kurdish sounds a bit closer than Badini Kurdish) from the Iranic languages

Here’s a Sorani kurdish drama. Take a listen



https://youtu.be/ZFX02S064V8

https://i.imgur.com/KqFSHte.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lvCa3Ry.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tZwZvzO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/d6ExusQ.jpg

Reason Kurdish sounds closest to Pashto is both kurds and pashtuns have alot of Parthian/Scythian ancestry

www.Eurasiandna.com
https://i.imgur.com/CBB9KMZ.jpg

Different Kurdish languages are very different from each other. If you want to know about differences




https://youtu.be/5feIFi9C36I


I know, its just interesting to hear answers from people on pashto.

I agree with the afghan guys, pashto and sorani kurdish sound more like each other, compared to any other languages. Difference is that pashto has lots of r-sounds, so it sounds signficantly indic to some degree. I shown wanetsi dialect to several people, and they all said it either sounds like an indo-aryan language, to indo-aryan mixed with russian or semetic(asked kurds too).
I guess other pashto dialects has more persian compared to wanetsi pashto?


And yes, kurdish dialects sounds different to each other. I barely felt any similiarity with kurmanji kurdish(though some kurds odd enough thinks that pashto sounds like kurmanji dialect somewhat) unlike sorani. But sorani lacks so much r-sounds, the kind of retroflexes pashto has

Not gonna ask pashtuns though, they can be biased

[Zoro]

I know, its just interesting to hear answers from people on pashto.

I agree with the afghan guys, pashto and sorani kurdish sound more like each other, compared to any other languages. Difference is that pashto has lots of r-sounds, so it sounds signficantly indic to some degree. I shown wanetsi dialect to several people, and they all said it either sounds like an indo-aryan language, to indo-aryan mixed with russian or semetic(asked kurds too).
I guess other pashto dialects has more persian compared to wanetsi pashto?


And yes, kurdish dialects sounds different to each other. I barely felt any similiarity with kurmanji kurdish(though some kurds odd enough thinks that pashto sounds like kurmanji dialect somewhat) unlike sorani. But sorani lacks so much r-sounds, the kind of retroflexes pashto has

Not gonna ask pashtuns though, they can be biased

Yes the retroflex is missing in kurdish. It gets stronger as you go to eastern pashto than southern which tells me maybe they picked it up from Indic languages unless it’s an ancient thing

That’s odd Why would pashtuns be biased against middle eastern languages?

[Melonman]

Yes the retroflex is missing in kurdish. It gets stronger as you go to eastern pashto than southern which tells me maybe they picked it up from Indic languages unless it’s an ancient thing

That’s odd Why would pashtuns be biased against middle eastern languages?

wanetsi is in balochistan, and doubt its from indic languages. Must be an ancient thing, and south dialects are heavily persian influenced. Some iranians even felt similiarity to sha dialect, and thought it sounded similiar to southeast persian dialect.


Us pashtuns dont like to admit that our language sounds significantly indic, although it does(due to its retroflexes, unlike ironically indo-aryan languages such as kalashi and koshuri kashmiri), so they would rather claim pashto has similiarities with kurdish, but not indic languages

[Zoro]

wanetsi is in balochistan, and doubt its from indic languages. Must be an ancient thing, and south dialects are heavily persian influenced. Some iranians even felt similiarity to sha dialect, and thought it sounded similiar to southeast persian dialect.


Us pashtuns dont like to admit that our language sounds significantly indic, although it does(due to its retroflexes, unlike ironically indo-aryan languages such as kalashi and koshuri kashmiri), so they would rather claim pashto has similiarities with kurdish, but not indic languages

Urdu and Punjabi do share words with pashto that they don’t share with kurdish or farsi but it maybe loan words because of distance. On the other hand urdu shares stuff with farsi or kurdish that it doesn’t share with pashto. But the retroflex is punjabi,urdu pashto thing

[Melonman]

Urdu and Punjabi do share words with pashto that they don’t share with kurdish or farsi but it maybe loan words because of distance. On the other hand urdu shares stuff with farsi or kurdish that it doesn’t share with pashto. But the retroflex is punjabi,urdu pashto thing

shared words would just be persian, or pashtu influence on urdu(unless its a dialect from khyber, then its opposite)

Either way, the r-retroflexes makes pashto sound very different to kurdish, and more like urdu and punjabi, at least wanetsi dialect(sha dialect has more a persian influence, so might not come off as indic shifted as more isolated dialect, wanetsi)

[Seya]

It sounds like Indian spoken with a Slavic accent.

[Melonman]

It sounds like Indian spoken with a Slavic accent.

thanks for input

[Applesandoranges]

Interesting language

[Thambi]

sounds like persian, just with a different accent and faster pace.

[Applesandoranges]

sounds like persian, just with a different accent and faster pace.

really? To me it sounds more kurdish

https://twitter.com/CohenRanj/status/1513610376491016193

Listen from 0:10 to 0:20

here's another example of kurdish

https://youtu.be/QbF1twZ-CFY?t=90

[khanx34]

russian mix dravid

[Applesandoranges]

Trololololololo:)

You made another sock account :picard2:


"Thats enough for me to know"

Youre proving yourself wrong here. Still obsessed with afghans, from that day i said(like everyone else) you looked like a gypsy, until even today. Hell, youre even obssessed with italians now, because italicus got fed up with your gypsy shit

https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/yjai3h/where_do_i_pass/?ref=share&ref_source=embed&utm_content=body&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=2a54dadbcf8947489a2597fb6f2cde2b&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=yjai3h

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Take this guy's advice, and fuck off. I hope you get banned

[Applesandoranges]

Most of your accounts are banned and you're confusing me with yourself LMAO. this is your literally 5-6 accounts or something lol

khanx is your friend or sock account, dont care


none of my accounts bothered people, i always just got wrongly reported by shelati, your friend. All your accounts is just about afghans(half of your posts)

[Applesandoranges]

Wtf khanx,my sock account?

khanx is not my socks account. he is a very legit Turkish user . i don't have any socks account on this forum LMAO... but you have tons of socks account, if that's what you think about me. lol

you literally kept posting the same posts with your face in your other 2 accounts :picard2:

Again, you keep making 100s of posts about afghans, while im not normally bothering anyone at all, apart from just exposing shelati(and thats why all my accounts were reported. But even then i stopped bothering with him). You do deserve to get banned

[Applesandoranges]

Stfu dravidian:rolleyes:


You are the one who is the real liar and deserves to be banned. the moderator is literally tired of blocking you. Why are you blocked and returning to the forum? what is your reason? I think your previous accounts are "Henry007,Husseinkhan,melonman,nomansman,etc" you have many such accounts that I can't count. and it's so pathetic that you say that LMAO

My reason isnt to make 29838284378478378 posts about 1 people im obsessed with. None of them are like that, unlike all your accounts. Yes, you deserve to get banned and stay in your forum, friendless, brown indian larper.


Theapricity isnt like your circle jerk forum with the same topics all day, so thats why im coming


Again, all of these are banned thanks to shelati reporting me :picard2:

[Applesandoranges]

btw dravidian:bored:


I don't want to argue with you any more because it goes without saying that you have been lying about me in all the mails. The truth is out there. good luck in tamil dravidian life. This discussion is going nowhere. I will continue to write the truth on classification issues.

Everything i siad about you, is literally everything YOU said about yourself. Hell, people can even ask about that suicide thread from members from YOUR thread, and they will ALL confirm it

[Etelfrido]

Like a mix of Hebrew, Slavic and Turkish.

[thisismyaccount]

Neat