View Full Version : Iranian DNA analyzed (G25 averages)
After Caucasus (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?364575-Caucasus-DNA-analyzed-(G25-averages)) now Iranian version:
https://i.imgur.com/9veSUrp.jpg
Levant_PPNB,0.0725625,0.1650235,-0.0309238,-0.1380835,0.0323138,-0.062541,-0.012103,-0.0141338,0.0735775,0.0367207,0.0194055,-0.0170098,0.036459,-0.000241,-0.021342,0.0067288,0.0089638,-0.0013935,-0.0054052,0.0192277,-0.0037435,0.007852,-0.0014175,-0.0062658,-0.0047002
Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1255849,0.08902 8,0.0426986,0.1153479,-0.0287232,0.0450564,0.0036033,-0.0025642,-0.0559032,-0.0728943,0.0018222,3.32e-05,-0.0026924,-0.0233041,0.0366141,0.0157633,-0.0012316,-0.0017879,-0.0038408,0.0137704,-0.0031749,0.0007557,0.0110649,0.0186102,-0.004537
Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312 ,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Caucasus_GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
East_asian/Siberian:East_Asia_CHN_Boshan_N,0.01935,-0.444802,0.032432,-0.062339,0.012618,0.002789,0.009635,0.003,-0.007772,0.008201,-0.074861,-0.009891,0.009812,-0.008533,-0.010315,-0.005701,-0.004042,0.003801,-0.000377,-0.002126,0.013726,0.003215,0.005793,-0.005543,-0.005628
Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
East_asian/Siberian:Siberia_Ural_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA,0.034147,-0.421445,0.150471,-0.002907,-0.14495,-0.082273,0.019741,0.035998,0.02577,0.000364,0.0837 92,-3e-04,0.015758,-0.048994,-0.04343,-0.029833,0.000652,0.005574,0.004902,-0.012381,0.026453,0.003462,0.001725,0.00723,0.0128 13
As you can see by the results, all Western Iranic people have the same common (CIC) origin and that there was such thing as proto-Western Iranics.
Western Iranics are genetically the closest people to me and it seems that Lor and Talysh are closer to me than the Persians.
Makes sense about the Lor/Luri people, because they are a mixture between Kurds and Persians.
And also makes sense about the Talysh. Because like Kurds, Talysh are Northwestern Iranics, while Persians are Southeastern Iranics.
I am sure that both the Kurds and Talysh as Northwestern Iranics are mostly derived from the Aryan Guto-Medes.
Distance to: Guti_scaled
0.01219574 Iranian:Kurdish
0.01336610 Iranian:Ezid
0.01599120 Iranian:Lor
0.01671334 Iranian:Talysh
0.02030644 Iranian:_Parsi
0.03765780 Iranian:Mazandarani
0.07520929 Iranian:Ossetian
0.08747265 Tajik:Yagnobi
0.11661112 Tajik:Rushan
0.11994659 Tajik:Shugnan
0.12845965 Tajik:Badakshan
0.12917717 Tajik:Ishkashim
0.14901517 Iranian:_Pashtun
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?364651-G25-Indo-Iranian-model-(I-think-made-for-Indo_Iranians-only)
I dedicated the whole topic about Talysh in my personal forum site here: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthropedia/taysh-and-gilaki-people-t21.html
Just a few things what I wrote about Talysh. Map of Talysh dialects (sometimes, the central and southern dialects are distinguished as a separate language, Tati).
https://i.postimg.cc/vB8f7Zz7/Talysh-Language-map-600px-600x314-1.jpg
It has been said that the Talysh people are the descendat of one of the Median tribes called Cadusii. Other Median tribes were Cyrtians and Amardi. It has been said that Kurds are a product of those Median tribes such as Cyrtians, Cadusii, Mard (Mars) etc.
Since the original Talysh were one of the Median tibes called Cadusii, they are more related to the Kurds than to the Persians, because Talysh are from 1 of those tribes of the Medes.
https://i.postimg.cc/PJrYvhJq/media.jpg
Here the Y-DNA distribution of the Talysh/Tats. Northern Talysh are mostly R1* (M173) people.
https://i.postimg.cc/fTbR053r/Talysh.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Fsw-8H7bB/c0d67e96eaa2611306689061ccbf0fc0.jpg
grecoroman
07-13-2022, 07:57 PM
Eastern iranids more indo European than western iranids??
Babak
07-13-2022, 08:00 PM
@Guti, Bro, they dont differ that much from each other. Iranians are for the most part, natives, with additional steppe and minor turkic input. Whether itd be a Persian, kurd, or whatever. I dont understand the division between Persians and kurds since they literally share the same history and ancestry. Same goes for azerbaijanis.
Eastern iranids more indo European than western iranids??
Yes. IEs hypothetically came from this areas into Iran and the middle east was more populated than central asia.
Eastern iranids more indo European than western iranids??They have more Steppes ancestry. But Steppes ancestry in Eastern Iranics could have come from the Scythians or Mongoloid/Turkic people.
Steppes is not the same as 'Indo-European', because many non-Indo-Europeans like the Uralics and Tatars live in the Steppes.
Personally, I think there are 2 reasons why Eastern Irancis have elevated Steppe ancestry.
1st reason: brought by the Scythians/Saka who lived as nomads between the Steppes and Southcentral Asia
2nd reason: brought by the Turkic people, such as Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kirgiz etc. into Afghanistan, Tajikistan are partly Turkic/Uzbek regions
@Guti, Bro, they dont differ that much from each other. Iranians are for the most part, natives, with additional steppe and minor turkic input. Whether itd be a Persian, kurd, or whatever. I dont understand the division between Persians and kurds since they literally share the same history and ancestry. Same goes for azerbaijanis.Persians are clearly different from the Kurds. Our languages are different. and also our origin is slightly different.
We are both Western Iranics, but Kurds are derived from the Medes and are therefore NORTHwestern Iranics, while Persians are derived from the ancient Persians and therefore SOUTHwestern Iranics.
The difference between the Persians and the Kurds is like a difference between Swiss and English people. Both English and Swiss are Germanic, but they are nevertheless different and have different countries.
Persians vs. Kurds = Swiss vs. English
Another Note:
qpadm (the tool scientists use) shows that Western Iranics actually do have like 5-7% more steppe ancestry than what g25 is showing.
Babak
07-13-2022, 08:11 PM
Persians are clearly different from the Kurds. Our languages are different. and also our origin is slightly different.
We are both Western Iranics, but Kurds are derived from the Medes and are therefore NORTHwestern Iranics, while Persians are derived from the ancient Persians and therefore SOUTHwestern Iranics.
The difference between the Persians and the Kurds is like a difference between Swiss and English people. Both English and Swiss are Germanic, but they are nevertheless different and have different countries.
Persians vs. Kurds = Swiss vs. English
Yea I get that but youre over-magnifying the differences lol
Babak
07-13-2022, 08:14 PM
They have more Steppes ancestry. But Steppes ancestry in Eastern Iranics could have come from the Scythians or Mongoloid/Turkic people.
Steppes is not the same as 'Indo-European', because many non-Indo-Europeans like the Uralics and Tatars live in the Steppes.
Personally, I think there are 2 reasons why Eastern Irancis have elevated Steppe ancestry.
1st reason: brought by the Scythians/Saka who lived as nomads between the Steppes and Southcentral Asia
2nd reason: brought by the Turkic people, such as Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kirgiz etc. into Afghanistan, Tajikistan are partly Turkic/Uzbek regions
Its none of those. Steppe input in Iranians is mostly from a single source. Its just that Eastern Iran was less populated.
Another Note:
qpadm (the tool scientists use) shows that Western Iranics actually do have like 5-7% more steppe ancestry than what g25 is showing.G25 is a fake amateur tool and is not to be taken seriously. It is not academic at all and is worthless shit, lol
Like I said earlier Western Iranics are mostly derived from CIC (Iran_ChL) and Iran_ChL itself is mostly CHG and not Iran_N
But I do like to participate here for fun, since I have nothing important to do at this moment and I am bored.
Tongio
07-13-2022, 08:14 PM
They have more Steppes ancestry. But Steppes ancestry in Eastern Iranic could have come from the Scythians or Mongoloid/Turkic people.
Steppes is not the same as 'Indo-European', because many non-Indo-Europeans like the Uralics live in the Steppes.
It is, because It implies comparativly high EHG ancestry. There is a chance indo european language came from southern caucasus, but indo european as It is currently used is synonimous with Yamnaya, a 50+ EHG people. You make claims that havent been testified, at least wait for the southern arc paper, its coming out any time soon.
grecoroman
07-13-2022, 08:19 PM
After Caucasus (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?364575-Caucasus-DNA-analyzed-(G25-averages)) now Iranian version:
https://i.imgur.com/d8lCfOF.png
Levant_PPNB,0.0725625,0.1650235,-0.0309238,-0.1380835,0.0323138,-0.062541,-0.012103,-0.0141338,0.0735775,0.0367207,0.0194055,-0.0170098,0.036459,-0.000241,-0.021342,0.0067288,0.0089638,-0.0013935,-0.0054052,0.0192277,-0.0037435,0.007852,-0.0014175,-0.0062658,-0.0047002
Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1255849,0.08902 8,0.0426986,0.1153479,-0.0287232,0.0450564,0.0036033,-0.0025642,-0.0559032,-0.0728943,0.0018222,3.32e-05,-0.0026924,-0.0233041,0.0366141,0.0157633,-0.0012316,-0.0017879,-0.0038408,0.0137704,-0.0031749,0.0007557,0.0110649,0.0186102,-0.004537
Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312 ,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Caucasus_GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
East_asian/Siberian:East_Asia_CHN_Boshan_N,0.01935,-0.444802,0.032432,-0.062339,0.012618,0.002789,0.009635,0.003,-0.007772,0.008201,-0.074861,-0.009891,0.009812,-0.008533,-0.010315,-0.005701,-0.004042,0.003801,-0.000377,-0.002126,0.013726,0.003215,0.005793,-0.005543,-0.005628
Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
East_asian/Siberian:Siberia_Ural_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA,0.034147,-0.421445,0.150471,-0.002907,-0.14495,-0.082273,0.019741,0.035998,0.02577,0.000364,0.0837 92,-3e-04,0.015758,-0.048994,-0.04343,-0.029833,0.000652,0.005574,0.004902,-0.012381,0.026453,0.003462,0.001725,0.00723,0.0128 13
Amazing. Can you make the same threads but with
Levant/arabia.
Central Asia.
South Asia.
Its none of those. Steppe input in Iranians is mostly from a single source. Its just that Eastern Iran was less populated.Same analogy can be made with the Azeri. Azeri have elevated Mongoloid/Turkic ancestry compared to the Western Iranics.
At the same time Azeri have also more (Turkic) Steppes ancestry than the Persians and Kurds.
So there is a correlation between Steppes and Tukic/Mongoloid ancestry.
And no, Steppes ancestry in Kurds is mostly derived from the Caucasus (Caucasus_LMBA) and not from Central Asia.
Western Iranics have different paternal haplogroups than Eastern Iranics.
Western Iranics such as Talysh, Ezdis have more of hg. Y-DNA hg. R1b than Y-DNA hg. R1a.
Kurdish/Talys Y-DNA hg. R1b is related to Trialeti and Yamnaya Horizon Y-DNA hg. R1b. Keep in mind that the European Y-DNA hg. R1b is very different from the Yamnaya/Trialeti Y-DNA hg. R1b. Both are not related to each at all.
While Kurdish and Talysh Y-DNA hg. R1b is closely related to Trialeti/Yamnaya/Steppes Maykop...
grecoroman
07-13-2022, 08:26 PM
Indus valley = 50% iranian farmer + native South indian, right???
It is, because It implies comparativly high EHG ancestry. There is a chance indo european language came from southern caucasus, but indo european as It is currently used is synonimous with Yamnaya, a 50+ EHG people. You make claims that havent been testified, at least wait for the southern arc paper, its coming out any time soon.Northwestern Iranic Y-DNA and mtDNA haplogroups differ a lot from the Eastern Iranics.
Personally I believe that proto-Iranics were native to Northwestern Asia, just like their first stage PIEan ancestors. Archaic 1st PIEan homeland was around the same place where the modern Northwestern Iranc people live.
But if proto-Iranic was derived from Yamnaya, then it arrived in Kurdistan from the Caucasus (via Caucaus_LMBA/Trialeti) and not from Central Asia at all.
Northwestern Iranics like Ezdis and Tats/Talysh have more Y-DNA hg. R1b than Y-DNA hg. R1a. They are not really 'R1a-people'.
Indus valley = 50% iranian farmer + native South indian, right???'Indus Valley' is mostly related to Iran_N. Proto-Western Iranics were mostly derived from Iran_ChL (CIC).
https://i.postimg.cc/C51Fczkc/Inkedmap-LI.jpg
Melonman
07-13-2022, 08:37 PM
Another Note:
qpadm (the tool scientists use) shows that Western Iranics actually do have like 5-7% more steppe ancestry than what g25 is showing.
whats the pashtun average though
there's no such thing as sistani, i know where you got the average from. its a mix of persians and balochs from khorosan.
did you get these results from that half azeri guy, who made this ''iranic project''
also, could you show the qpadm results from scientists who shown persians get 5-7 percent more steppe
Yea I get that but youre over-magnifying the differences lolNot really.
The difference between Sorani Kurds and Kurmanji Kurds is like Belarussians and Russians,
Kurmanji vs. Sorani = Russians vs. Belarussians
The difference between Kurds and Talysh is like Ukrainians and Russians
Kurds vs. Talysh = Ukrainians vs. Russians
The difference between Kurds and Persians is like English and Swiss.
Kurds vs. Persians = Swiss vs. English
Amazing. Can you make the same threads but with
Levant/arabia.
Central Asia.
South Asia.
maybe
there already is a similar one for South Asia:
https://i.imgur.com/9uH0tL9.png
Indus valley = 50% iranian farmer + native South indian, right???
Roughly. The sample also have a bit of Steppe (around 5%).
whats the pashtun average though
there's no such thing as sistani, i know where you got the average from. its a mix of persians and balochs from khorosan.
did you get these results from that half azeri guy, who made this ''iranic project''
also, could you show the qpadm results from scientists who shown persians get 5-7 percent more steppe
Okay I will delete the Sistani average. Wasn't sure about that one either.
No I didnt get the samples from him. Also he's not half Azeri but Lur. I know who you mean.
Pashtun was the average out of those averages:
Pashtun_Afghanistan_Kabul,0.08840267,0.02166433,-0.06901333,0.042636,-0.05601033,0.03151467,0.00219333,-0.00238467,-0.02358833,-0.01372833,-0.00481733,0.00069933,-0.00153633,-0.01215667,0.012441,0.02081633,0.00343367,-0.001816,-0.00020967,-0.01271433,-0.00311967,-0.004122,0.00579267,-0.006346,0.00247467
Pashtun_Afghanistan_Kandahar,0.0878716,0.04285514,-0.0716276,0.0375326,-0.06286306,0.028484,0.00382266,0.0024766,-0.02020694,-0.0215404,-0.00470914,0.0009394,0.001358,-0.00428486,0.01628646,0.01279926,-0.0060672,0.00113146,0.0035948,-0.01514066,-0.00375146,-0.0073118,0.00804394,-0.00605686,0.0032408
Pashtun_Afghanistan_North,0.084988,0.02775767,-0.06662467,0.039729,-0.05570233,0.02770333,0.00579667,0.001846,-0.02590633,-0.01834533,-0.00595433,0.000000,0.00188333,-0.00614733,0.012667,0.011182,-0.005172,0.00160467,0.00205333,-0.00975467,-0.00054067,-0.00704833,-0.00382067,-0.00152633,0.00694533
Pashtun_Pakistan_Tarkalani,0.0815601,0.0242325,-0.0857625,0.0545424,-0.0644362,0.0356403,0.0032009,0.0017348,-0.0171801,-0.0155906,-0.0061651,-0.0005478,0.0012507,-0.0091495,0.0124114,0.0161759,0.0026977,0.0009523, 0.0023015,-0.0097029,-0.0037736,-0.0053938,0.001547,-0.0020069,0.0044059
Pashtun_Pakistan_Uthmankhel,0.0818792,0.0233244,-0.0834288,0.0556185,-0.0646969,0.0365975,0.002024,0.0015855,-0.0165004,-0.014526,-0.0046673,-0.0008218,0.0011509,-0.0068589,0.0110021,0.0120828,-0.0029568,0.0010871,0.0029114,-0.0097144,-0.0047175,-0.0059194,0.0014433,-0.0014459,0.0041641
Pashtun_Pakistan_Yusufzai,0.0799252,0.0193268,-0.0894836,0.0589374,-0.0652045,0.0372493,0.0035911,0.0027548,-0.0139651,-0.0122611,-0.0048007,0.0002903,-0.0010918,-0.0089454,0.0105183,0.01352,-0.0011734,0.0005661,0.0014062,-0.0088871,-0.0029713,-0.0058117,0.0023609,-0.0034228,0.0037795
I'll send the qpadm runs when I find them again.
Melonman
07-13-2022, 08:50 PM
Okay I will delete the Sistani average. Wasn't sure about that one either.
No I didnt get the samples from him. Also he's not half Azeri but Lur. I know who you mean.
Pashtun was the average out of those averages:
Pashtun_Afghanistan_Kabul,0.08840267,0.02166433,-0.06901333,0.042636,-0.05601033,0.03151467,0.00219333,-0.00238467,-0.02358833,-0.01372833,-0.00481733,0.00069933,-0.00153633,-0.01215667,0.012441,0.02081633,0.00343367,-0.001816,-0.00020967,-0.01271433,-0.00311967,-0.004122,0.00579267,-0.006346,0.00247467
Pashtun_Afghanistan_Kandahar,0.0878716,0.04285514,-0.0716276,0.0375326,-0.06286306,0.028484,0.00382266,0.0024766,-0.02020694,-0.0215404,-0.00470914,0.0009394,0.001358,-0.00428486,0.01628646,0.01279926,-0.0060672,0.00113146,0.0035948,-0.01514066,-0.00375146,-0.0073118,0.00804394,-0.00605686,0.0032408
Pashtun_Afghanistan_North,0.084988,0.02775767,-0.06662467,0.039729,-0.05570233,0.02770333,0.00579667,0.001846,-0.02590633,-0.01834533,-0.00595433,0.000000,0.00188333,-0.00614733,0.012667,0.011182,-0.005172,0.00160467,0.00205333,-0.00975467,-0.00054067,-0.00704833,-0.00382067,-0.00152633,0.00694533
Pashtun_Pakistan_Tarkalani,0.0815601,0.0242325,-0.0857625,0.0545424,-0.0644362,0.0356403,0.0032009,0.0017348,-0.0171801,-0.0155906,-0.0061651,-0.0005478,0.0012507,-0.0091495,0.0124114,0.0161759,0.0026977,0.0009523, 0.0023015,-0.0097029,-0.0037736,-0.0053938,0.001547,-0.0020069,0.0044059
Pashtun_Pakistan_Uthmankhel,0.0818792,0.0233244,-0.0834288,0.0556185,-0.0646969,0.0365975,0.002024,0.0015855,-0.0165004,-0.014526,-0.0046673,-0.0008218,0.0011509,-0.0068589,0.0110021,0.0120828,-0.0029568,0.0010871,0.0029114,-0.0097144,-0.0047175,-0.0059194,0.0014433,-0.0014459,0.0041641
Pashtun_Pakistan_Yusufzai,0.0799252,0.0193268,-0.0894836,0.0589374,-0.0652045,0.0372493,0.0035911,0.0027548,-0.0139651,-0.0122611,-0.0048007,0.0002903,-0.0010918,-0.0089454,0.0105183,0.01352,-0.0011734,0.0005661,0.0014062,-0.0088871,-0.0029713,-0.0058117,0.0023609,-0.0034228,0.0037795
I'll send the qpadm runs when I find them again.
you got the qpadm runs from that thessaly guy, right
im bit sceptical about his results, not the tool itself. seen some of his runs on balochs, and they seemed kind of odd for balochs
Northwestern Iranic Y-DNA and mtDNA haplogroups differ a lot from the Eastern Iranics.
Personally I believe that proto-Iranics were native to Northwestern Asia, just like their first stage PIEan ancestors. Archaic 1st PIEan homeland was around the same place where the modern Northwestern Iranc people live.
But if proto-Iranic was derived from Yamnaya, then it arrived in Kurdistan from the Caucasus (via Caucaus_LMBA/Trialeti) and not from Central Asia at all.
Northwestern Iranics like Ezdis and Tats/Talysh have more Y-DNA hg. R1b than Y-DNA hg. R1a. They are not really 'R1a-people'.
Here we go with the nonsense again. Kurds have the highest R1a in W Asia according to all the papers Ive seen. I’m not even going to post them because it’s your job to do your homework before you post crap. If Kurds are not R1a people then no one is.
You can’t be a Kurd posting stuff like this. I think you’re either Armenian or Turk
Impaler
07-13-2022, 09:05 PM
Does someone have Qashqai Iranian results? Are they closer to Persians, Lurs and Kurds?
You can’t be a Kurd posting stuff like this. I think you’re either Armenian or TurkLol, a Turcoman with an agenda who is accusing a real Kurd (Ezdi) for being a Turk. Such an irony.
Can you tell what kind of anti-Kurdish statement I made here?
Does someone have Qashqai Iranian results? Are they closer to Persians, Lurs and Kurds?
Nope. But my guess is that they will range from Azerbaijani to Persian and Lur and a mix of all three. And overall will be close to West Iranians (including Azerbaijans).
kingmob
07-14-2022, 05:27 AM
Here we go with the nonsense again. Kurds have the highest R1a in W Asia according to all the papers Ive seen.
Hey, man, I don't have a horse in this race. Can you provide any insight on the Iranic/Kurd R1b? I assume it's mostly L584 like F38?
qpadm
Easy tutorial for lightning fast admixtools2 in my sig, why don't you take 5 minutes to install it (literally) on windows and give it a spin.
Sterling Archer
07-14-2022, 03:07 PM
After Caucasus (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?364575-Caucasus-DNA-analyzed-(G25-averages)) now Iranian version:
I think Tat_Azerbaijan shouldn't be in the main list. First, it is just one person, second not Iranian. Being an Iranic language is not that relevant, afterall so is Ossetian. Probably more appropriate in the "Neighboring" group.
Also interesting, Azeris in Iran have very little Indus Valley. This, together with less Iranian Plateau, seems to be the main distinguishing factor from other Western Iranic groups.
I think Tat_Azerbaijan shouldn't be in the main list. First, it is just one person, second not Iranian. Being an Iranic language is not that relevant, afterall so is Ossetian. Probably more appropriate in the "Neighboring" group.
Also interesting, Azeris in Iran have very little Indus Valley. This, together with less Iranian Plateau, seems to be the main distinguishing factor from other Western Iranic groups.
Originally they were in the Neighbouring groups list. Just when I deleted the Persian_Sistani average I put them into Iranian.
I included them into the Iranian sphere because:
a) they have a supposed origin inside the borders of todays Iran
b) I didnt want to leave a blank space so I had to pick one from the bottom.
mostly b)
That being said, I willl edit it.
Yes Azeris do have little South Asian. However so do have other West Iranians like Kurds and Lurs. I think less Iranian Plateau, a stronger Anatolian/Armenian shift and increased East Asian are the main differences.
Sterling Archer
07-14-2022, 03:59 PM
Yes Azeris do have little South Asian. However so do have other West Iranians like Kurds and Lurs. I think less Iranian Plateau, a stronger Anatolian/Armenian shift and increased East Asian are the main differences.
The East Asian part goes without saying, although I see that some Iranics have a noticeable amount too.
My fathers result:
https://i.imgur.com/dh2dtsI.png
Sterling Archer
07-15-2022, 09:16 AM
My fathers result:
https://i.imgur.com/dh2dtsI.png
I assume this is a legit G25. Can you pls post the percentage breakdown?
I assume this is a legit G25. Can you pls post the percentage breakdown?
Yes it's legit g25.
He scores astronomically high Anatolian. Same level as Anatolian Turks almost. Which is weird since hes not even fully Azeri.
Also very low Levant.
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.9498% / 0.02949777
31.2 Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N
28.2 Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
15.0 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.6 Levant_PPNB
8.4 Caucasus_GEO_CHG
6.4 East_asian/Siberian
2.2 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
Sterling Archer
07-15-2022, 09:47 AM
Yes it's legit g25.
He scores astronomically high Anatolian. Same level as Anatolian Turks almost. Which is weird since hes not even fully Azeri.
Also very low Levant.
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.9498% / 0.02949777
31.2 Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N
28.2 Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
15.0 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.6 Levant_PPNB
8.4 Caucasus_GEO_CHG
6.4 East_asian/Siberian
2.2 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
Not surprising if his Turkic side came from Anatolia. After all, that is not unheard of. At least in the case of Azerbaijan (the republic) there have been migrations from Anatolia. I assume that is how Ayrums came to be based on Y-DNA. Do you know where his tribe came from?
His Iran_IRN_Ganj is quite high, while his CHG is low. What is his non-Azeri part? Was it just one grandparent?
Not surprising if his Turkic side came from Anatolia. After all, that is not unheard of. At least in the case of Azerbaijan (the republic) there have been migrations from Anatolia. I assume that is how Ayrums came to be based on Y-DNA. Do you know where his tribe came from?
His Iran_IRN_Ganj is quite high, while his CHG is low. What is his non-Azeri part? Was it just one grandparent?
I know that it's not unheard of. Afterall many of the Qizilbash tribes moved from anatolia to Iran. I know that my tribe was included in the Qizilbash, because one of the royal guards (Qizilbash) under Shah Tahmasp had our name. But the origin of our tribe is not really known (othern than being Afshar) and coming from Anatolia is not something people in our tribe know or tell themselves. But that's the case for most Azerbaijanis even if its confirmed they came from Anatolia.
His overall ancestry is 65% Azeri (all from one tribe) 25% Persian from Northern Isfahan province 5% Shia Kurdish (turkic speaking) and 5% Mazandarani.
Sterling Archer
07-15-2022, 10:12 AM
His overall ancestry is 65% Azeri (all from one tribe) 25% Persian from Northern Isfahan province 5% Shia Kurdish (turkic speaking) and 5% Mazandarani.
Yeah, looking at this I can only assume that his high Anatolia came from his Turkic side, which is the dominant one in terms of makeup (no idea how people score in Isfahan though).
I remember that his Dodekad k12b was a bit atypical for Iran, and looked almost indistinguishable from a Republic result.
Yeah, looking at this I can only assume that his high Anatolia came from his Turkic side, which is the dominant one in terms of makeup (no idea how people score in Isfahan though).
I remember that his Dodekad k12b was a bit atypical for Iran, and looked almost indistinguishable from a Republic result.
Gedrosian: 21.49
Siberian: 2.65
Northwest_African: 0.79
Southeast_Asian: 0.01
Atlantic_Med: 6.51
North_European: 11.10
South_Asian 4.19
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 8.43
East_Asian: 4.84
Caucasian: 39.57
SSA: 0.00
My tribe definetly had no history in the Southern Caucasus thats why the low Caucasus on G25 is not surprising.
(possibly Anatolia)
Urmia (Timurid era)
Isfahan (Safavid reign)
Kurdistan (as governors during Safavid era)
then Zanjan and during late Qajar era Tehran
this is the known attested history of my tribe. But orally the elders only know that they came from Zanjan to Tehran. But as they were nomads they probably are not attached to a specific region thats why they didnt care as much.
It's also possible that only parts of the tribe were in Southern Iran while the rest were in Zanjan and Urmia.
Sterling Archer
07-15-2022, 10:38 AM
Gedrosian: 21.49
Siberian: 2.65
Northwest_African: 0.79
Southeast_Asian: 0.01
Atlantic_Med: 6.51
North_European: 11.10
South_Asian 4.19
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 8.43
East_Asian: 4.84
Caucasian: 39.57
SSA: 0.00
Yep, the only thing that stands out is high South Asia, other than that I couldn't tell this apart from a normal Az result from the North.
My tribe definetly had no history in the Southern Caucasus thats why the low Caucasus on G25 is not surprising.
Funny how a person who scores a 1/3 of my CHG ends ups scoring almost identical Caucasian score in k12b :)
this is the known attested history of my tribe. But orally the elders only know that they came from Zanjan to Tehran. But as they were nomads they probably are not attached to a specific region thats why they didnt care as much.
I wish the tribes had a detailed genealogy records, but they were all about warfare ;)
Funny how a person who scores a 1/3 of my CHG ends ups scoring almost identical Caucasian score in k12b :)
Modern people in the Caucasus are not the same as the ancient CHG people. Modern people received too much other ancestry from the south and north. From the south they got a lot Neolithic farmer ancestry.
My second point is that the archaic CHG people were not fully 'Caucasus', but had also 'Gedrosia' component is them. See Dodecad K12b
The ratio Caucasus:Gedrosia was more or less 4:3. This is one of the reasons why Kurds who mostly don't live in the Caucasus are still one of the closest people to the ancient archaic CHG.
Kurds are both relatively high in Gedrosia and Caucaus.
btw there recently was a big dataset (324 samples) of Iranian Y-DNA results in a study about influence of religion in genetics in Lebanon.
Thought I might share it here:
https://i.imgur.com/oSLsnUY.png
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062011/
Can you also include these Tajiks?
Tajik_Ayni,0.09153266667,0.009393666667,-0.02910125,0.01827641667,-0.04075108333,0.01452558333,0.006795583333,-0.00065375,-0.02628133333,-0.020122,-0.008755583333,0.001548583333,0.0006813333333,-0.00791325,0.01129883333,0.008087916667,-0.0098115,-0.0005806666667,0.0008905,-0.008274666667,-0.00657175,-0.003719916667,0.001633083333,0.00114475,0.0050593 33333
Tajik_Hisor,0.091343,0.00710875,-0.02451275,0.02123725,-0.04362325,0.01631525,0.00464125,0.00023075,-0.02623025,-0.0233715,-0.004831,0.0019855,-0.00156075,-0.0088765,0.011638,0.014121,0.00146675,0.00006325, 0.00160275,-0.0087855,-0.008173,0.000402,0.00261925,0.00180775,0.0011375
Tajik_Kulob,0.09609914286,0.02335714286,-0.03410257143,0.02524014286,-0.049196,0.02071757143,0.001712142857,-0.001120714286,-0.03216871429,-0.02501842857,-0.006936285714,-0.002419142857,-0.002718285714,-0.008041285714,0.01167214286,0.01242557143,0.00007 442857143,0.0006877142857,0.001203,-0.007860857143,-0.006238857143,-0.002031571429,0.0001937142857,0.002823,0.00186471 4286
Tajik_Badakshan,0.0915136,0.024779,-0.0383908,0.0457368,-0.0484396,0.0278332,0.005593,0.0009232,-0.0287558,-0.0259868,-0.0084444,-0.0016782,2.98e-05,-0.0138446,0.016585,0.0099178,-0.0075622,0.0001522,0.0026398,-0.0077038,-0.006688,-0.0037836,0.0021446,0.0018074,0.002419
Tajik_Ishkashim,0.0912862,0.0276224,-0.0463104,0.0528428,-0.0513942,0.0257694,0.003713,-0.0041078,-0.0273652,-0.0253672,-0.0083144,-0.0008392,-0.0011894,-0.0116978,0.0122962,0.0141606,-0.0022686,0.0012668,0.0014078,-0.006128,-0.0095082,-0.000272,-0.000715,0.0008192,0.0029218
Tajik_Rushan,0.1000017,0.0451186,-0.0255366,0.0428667,-0.0437004,0.0255384,0.005405,-0.0021099,-0.0304156,-0.0293137,-0.008537,-0.0009206,-0.0017627,-0.012504,0.01712,0.0131074,-0.0043584,-0.0017194,0.0012391,-0.0091651,-0.0086277,-0.0020669,0.0017783,0.0007229,0.0005986
Tajik_Shugnan,0.0959908,0.0380823,-0.0306725,0.0449508,-0.048214,0.024589,0.0012925,-0.0035383,-0.0275083,-0.0287325,-0.0048987,-0.0010242,0.0009165,-0.0159185,0.0132102,0.0152477,-0.0036505,0.0018793,0.0030167,-0.0097338,-0.0044922,-0.0028028,0.0017665,0.0016267,0.0044705
Sarikoli_China,0.0891071,0.0020311,-0.0374426,0.0493729,-0.050471,0.0281681,0.0060429,0.0033954,-0.0241337,-0.0263981,-0.0086299,-0.0020981,-0.0008496,-0.0109703,0.0184773,0.0098306,-0.0085309,0.001122,0.0015623,-0.00904,-0.008984,-0.0013954,0.0041201,-0.0009469,0.0034384
Can you also include these Tajiks?
Tajik_Ayni,0.09153266667,0.009393666667,-0.02910125,0.01827641667,-0.04075108333,0.01452558333,0.006795583333,-0.00065375,-0.02628133333,-0.020122,-0.008755583333,0.001548583333,0.0006813333333,-0.00791325,0.01129883333,0.008087916667,-0.0098115,-0.0005806666667,0.0008905,-0.008274666667,-0.00657175,-0.003719916667,0.001633083333,0.00114475,0.0050593 33333
Tajik_Hisor,0.091343,0.00710875,-0.02451275,0.02123725,-0.04362325,0.01631525,0.00464125,0.00023075,-0.02623025,-0.0233715,-0.004831,0.0019855,-0.00156075,-0.0088765,0.011638,0.014121,0.00146675,0.00006325, 0.00160275,-0.0087855,-0.008173,0.000402,0.00261925,0.00180775,0.0011375
Tajik_Kulob,0.09609914286,0.02335714286,-0.03410257143,0.02524014286,-0.049196,0.02071757143,0.001712142857,-0.001120714286,-0.03216871429,-0.02501842857,-0.006936285714,-0.002419142857,-0.002718285714,-0.008041285714,0.01167214286,0.01242557143,0.00007 442857143,0.0006877142857,0.001203,-0.007860857143,-0.006238857143,-0.002031571429,0.0001937142857,0.002823,0.00186471 4286
Tajik_Badakshan,0.0915136,0.024779,-0.0383908,0.0457368,-0.0484396,0.0278332,0.005593,0.0009232,-0.0287558,-0.0259868,-0.0084444,-0.0016782,2.98e-05,-0.0138446,0.016585,0.0099178,-0.0075622,0.0001522,0.0026398,-0.0077038,-0.006688,-0.0037836,0.0021446,0.0018074,0.002419
Tajik_Ishkashim,0.0912862,0.0276224,-0.0463104,0.0528428,-0.0513942,0.0257694,0.003713,-0.0041078,-0.0273652,-0.0253672,-0.0083144,-0.0008392,-0.0011894,-0.0116978,0.0122962,0.0141606,-0.0022686,0.0012668,0.0014078,-0.006128,-0.0095082,-0.000272,-0.000715,0.0008192,0.0029218
Tajik_Rushan,0.1000017,0.0451186,-0.0255366,0.0428667,-0.0437004,0.0255384,0.005405,-0.0021099,-0.0304156,-0.0293137,-0.008537,-0.0009206,-0.0017627,-0.012504,0.01712,0.0131074,-0.0043584,-0.0017194,0.0012391,-0.0091651,-0.0086277,-0.0020669,0.0017783,0.0007229,0.0005986
Tajik_Shugnan,0.0959908,0.0380823,-0.0306725,0.0449508,-0.048214,0.024589,0.0012925,-0.0035383,-0.0275083,-0.0287325,-0.0048987,-0.0010242,0.0009165,-0.0159185,0.0132102,0.0152477,-0.0036505,0.0018793,0.0030167,-0.0097338,-0.0044922,-0.0028028,0.0017665,0.0016267,0.0044705
Sarikoli_China,0.0891071,0.0020311,-0.0374426,0.0493729,-0.050471,0.0281681,0.0060429,0.0033954,-0.0241337,-0.0263981,-0.0086299,-0.0020981,-0.0008496,-0.0109703,0.0184773,0.0098306,-0.0085309,0.001122,0.0015623,-0.00904,-0.008984,-0.0013954,0.0041201,-0.0009469,0.0034384
https://i.imgur.com/fxO57Zf.jpg
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/fxO57Zf.jpg
The yellow part is understandably quite big in TJK, especially outside of Badakhshan but you can still find plenty of pronounced Caucasoid Iranid types there
From Khovanling, interior rural Tajikistan
https://i.ibb.co/tbWJx9p/Khov.jpg
More rare, Aryanic types from Hisor (the place where one of the averages is from)
https://i.ibb.co/pZN31gF/Hisor-man.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/8cfPt0G/Hisor.jpg
A large photo from Kulob (boys only)
https://i.ibb.co/kyjQcsf/Kulob-boys.jpg
These are all from Emomali Rahmon's official Flickr account (you can see him in the middle). I've posted only a few, the source has hundreds of pictures.
https://i.imgur.com/fxO57Zf.jpg
Based on IBD there isn’t that much difference between the more “western” looking Tajiks and Kurds and other peoples from W. Iran in terms of IBD sharing with E. Asians. IBD usually lines up with facial features.
I believe the reason Shugnan, Rushan, and some of the other Tajiks are showing more E. Asian in your chart than Kurds and other peoples from W. Iran is because you have alot of relevant W. Eurasian pops for W. Iranians but few relevant W. Eurasian populations for Tajiks.
Try experimenting by using sources from similar time periods. For example you can try Chalcolithic and BA like:
Iran-Chl Teppe Hisar or The other Iran-Chl from south of Haji-Firuz (forgot the name), BMAC, Steppe, E. Asian, IVC. You can leave out African because historically it’s not that relevant for Iranics
This way you can see how the E. Asian changes as you use different W. Eurasian sources
https://i.imgur.com/VkvkODg.jpg
https://eurasiandna.com/the-genome-asia-wgs-project-draft/
Based on IBD there isn’t that much difference between the more “western” looking Tajiks and Kurds and other peoples from W. Iran in terms of IBD sharing with E. Asians. IBD usually lines up with facial features.
I believe the reason Shugnan, Rushan, and some of the other Tajiks are showing more E. Asian in your chart than Kurds and other peoples from W. Iran is because you have alot of relevant W. Eurasian pops for W. Iranians but few relevant W. Eurasian populations for Tajiks.
Try experimenting by using sources from similar time periods. For example you can try Chalcolithic and BA like:
Iran-Chl Teppe Hisar or The other Iran-Chl from south of Haji-Firuz (forgot the name), BMAC, Steppe, E. Asian, IVC. You can leave out African because historically it’s not that relevant for Iranics
This way you can see how the E. Asian changes as you use different W. Eurasian sources
https://i.imgur.com/VkvkODg.jpg
https://eurasiandna.com/the-genome-asia-wgs-project-draft/
Hm I think Tajiks look much more East asian than Kurds and Iranians on average and it ligns up with the results. Just look at the pic Leto posted.
Maybe the differences are a bit exaggerated on G25 tho. That's not me to judge.
grecoroman
07-17-2022, 08:14 PM
Yes. IEs hypothetically came from this areas into Iran and the middle east was more populated than central asia.
Can you post a neolithic sample of Iran??
Thank you.
kevinmac
07-17-2022, 08:21 PM
The Zoroastrian Persian DNA results I assume are that of the people living in India right? The sec that remained in the Iranian Pleateu that never went to India can't be that heavily mixed.
Can you post a neolithic sample of Iran??
Thank you.
M825671 I1293 Iran Mesolithic [9100-8600 BC] HV2 J2a-M410>CTS1085
M967114 I1290 Iran N
M937770 I1671 Iran LN
M124870 I1661 Iran Chalcolithic
M595455 I1670 Iran Chalcolithic [4839-4617 BC] U3a'c -
M902476 I1662 Iran Chalcolithic [4831-4612 BC] K1a12a J2a-M410>PF5008
M155294 I1674 Iran Chalcolithic [3972-3800 BC] I1c G1-M342>GG372
M873184 I1665 Iran Chalcolithic [3956-3796 BC] U7a -
M381564 F38 Iran EIA [971-832 BC] N1a3a R1b-Z2103>L584>Y23838
T637158 I1955 Iran Late Medieval [1430–1485 AD] U1a1 –
M967114 I1290 Iran_N
Target: Iran_N_M967114
Distance: 2.5594% / 0.02559392
54.6 Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
18.6 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.6 Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N
10.8 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
1.4 East_asian/Siberian
Distance to: Iran_N_M967114
0.10666817 Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.16381366 Caucasus_GEO_CHG
0.20345186 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.23830276 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: I8728
0.29654947 Levant_PPNB
0.29905098 Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N
0.55274161 East_asian/Siberian:East_Asia_CHN_Boshan_N
0.58468188 East_asian/Siberian:Siberia_Ural_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
0.73279124 Yoruba
M937770 I1671 Iran LN
Target: Iran_LN_M937770
Distance: 2.3866% / 0.02386585
52.6 Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
25.0 Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N
14.0 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.8 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
1.4 Levant_PPNB
1.2 East_asian/Siberian
Distance to: Iran_LN_M937770
0.12884514 Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.16683551 Caucasus_GEO_CHG
0.20933233 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.25481054 Levant_PPNB
0.25896818 Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N
0.26548683 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: I8728
0.56330680 East_asian/Siberian:East_Asia_CHN_Boshan_N
0.59426875 East_asian/Siberian:Siberia_Ural_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
0.73385719 Yoruba
grecoroman
07-17-2022, 08:39 PM
I read that in some point in history the western iranian populations got replaced by anatolian farmers??
Is that true?
I read that in some point in history the western iranian populations got replaced by anatolian farmers??
Is that true?In Kurdistan and Northwestern Iran 'Iran_N' was mostly replaced by 'CHG'/'Iran_ChL'.
https://i.postimg.cc/XJWFkky9/ChL.jpg
I read that in some point in history the western iranian populations got replaced by anatolian farmers??
Is that true?
Replacement is the wrong word:
Late Neolithic:
Target: IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN
Distance: 2.8877% / 0.02887688
88.2 Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
11.8 Levant_PPNB
Calcolithic Iranians:
Target: IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
Distance: 3.2226% / 0.03222629
48.2 Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
19.8 Levant_PPNB
16.6 Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N
15.4 Caucasus_GEO_CHG
Target: IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
Distance: 2.6470% / 0.02647018
68.6 Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
15.6 Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N
13.4 Caucasus_GEO_CHG
2.2 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.2 Levant_PPNB
Target: IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C
Distance: 2.9835% / 0.02983459
30.8 Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
24.4 Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N
24.0 Levant_PPNB
20.8 Caucasus_GEO_CHG
Beowulf
12-12-2022, 10:34 PM
After Caucasus (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?364575-Caucasus-DNA-analyzed-(G25-averages)) now Iranian version:
https://i.imgur.com/9veSUrp.jpg
Levant_PPNB,0.0725625,0.1650235,-0.0309238,-0.1380835,0.0323138,-0.062541,-0.012103,-0.0141338,0.0735775,0.0367207,0.0194055,-0.0170098,0.036459,-0.000241,-0.021342,0.0067288,0.0089638,-0.0013935,-0.0054052,0.0192277,-0.0037435,0.007852,-0.0014175,-0.0062658,-0.0047002
Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1255849,0.08902 8,0.0426986,0.1153479,-0.0287232,0.0450564,0.0036033,-0.0025642,-0.0559032,-0.0728943,0.0018222,3.32e-05,-0.0026924,-0.0233041,0.0366141,0.0157633,-0.0012316,-0.0017879,-0.0038408,0.0137704,-0.0031749,0.0007557,0.0110649,0.0186102,-0.004537
Iran_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312 ,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Caucasus_GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
East_asian/Siberian:East_Asia_CHN_Boshan_N,0.01935,-0.444802,0.032432,-0.062339,0.012618,0.002789,0.009635,0.003,-0.007772,0.008201,-0.074861,-0.009891,0.009812,-0.008533,-0.010315,-0.005701,-0.004042,0.003801,-0.000377,-0.002126,0.013726,0.003215,0.005793,-0.005543,-0.005628
Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
East_asian/Siberian:Siberia_Ural_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA,0.034147,-0.421445,0.150471,-0.002907,-0.14495,-0.082273,0.019741,0.035998,0.02577,0.000364,0.0837 92,-3e-04,0.015758,-0.048994,-0.04343,-0.029833,0.000652,0.005574,0.004902,-0.012381,0.026453,0.003462,0.001725,0.00723,0.0128 13
Target: k13:ivanK13
Distance: 5.4980% / 0.05497987
60.4 Anatolia_TUR_Barcin_N
38.6 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.8 Yoruba
0.2 Levant_PPNB
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