Hey I'm Venezueland... And Irish type III ?

[Mayuk24]

Descárgate el raw data de tu test de Ancestry y lo introduces acá en esta dirección, y te dará tu haplogrupo paterno:
https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

Hello I recently discovered that I could know my Y halopgroup thanks to a forum member, I didn't know that I could get it with my raw data in ancestry.

I got some surprises, and I do not understand very well the results, in comparison are those of an Ecuadorian friend.

The first thing I noticed is that the distribution and percentages are very low, only between 0.5 to 2.4% compared to the 3 to 18% of my Italian-Ecuadorian friend.

MY resulst : R-Z2534

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=114829&d=1658885309
114829
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/295975313_1075456640073178_4216955235841861090_n.p ng?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=KZ3vL9Pd2KoAX_d0_VU&tn=CLSMEwQ7DGkPVbDb&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=03_AVLq_PBS14AKoJAaaVhZZI3lM3chU3uaJXMzTv6hC8hD RQ&oe=6306C2E9


Italo-Ecuadorian : R-L52

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=114828&d=1658885309
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/295229997_5285794634840256_7028650119068465404_n.p ng?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=BlSVT-NxFD4AX9MG8qm&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=03_AVJ-aLG8AWOHOL76j5Z-w5pVMKSRsi7rlYkQgUsBacWxbg&oe=630751A1
114828


but what called my attention the most was the Irish III type name, this was the first thing I got on the internet, should I contact him?

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/294225597_595539258756426_3898211812510241801_n.pn g?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=EESwSYJuVKEAX_YFbD3&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=03_AVKhNd98TIyWVzgAm6qKFf9TG21fsVRoafdNOB1bNWES-Q&oe=6305767D

[Grace O'Malley]

Yes that's interesting but if it hasn't been verified by testing further with a company it might not be accurate. It is under L21. The Dál gCais are the sept that spawned Brian Boru. You would most likely have an known Irish ancestor if that was the case. All people with that ydna have Irish ancestry. The snp associated with the Dalcassians is L226.

Here's some more information from FTDNA about Z253.

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-z253/about/background

Here's yfull L226. They are all Irish.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L226/

Here is yfull Z253. It appears all British Isles people. Edit: there is a Mexican at the top but I would say they have ancestry from the Isles but who knows? :)

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-z253/

I hope that helps a bit.

Regards

[Grace O'Malley]

What company did you test with?

[Mayuk24]

Yes that's interesting but if it hasn't been verified by testing further with a company it might not be accurate. It is under L21. The Dál gCais are the sept that spawned Brian Boru. You would most likely have an known Irish ancestor if that was the case. All people with that ydna have Irish ancestry. The snp associated with the Dalcassians is L226.

Here's some more information from FTDNA about Z253.

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-z253/about/background

Here's yfull L226. They are all Irish.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L226/

Here is yfull Z253. It appears all British Isles people. Edit: there is a Mexican at the top but I would say they have ancestry from the Isles but who knows? :)

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-z253/

I hope that helps a bit.

Regards

thanks for the info, yes i guess i will have to do the test, i still don't know if my ancestry raw file will be enough. i will keep an eye on what you sent me, thanks a lot.

Ancestry results :
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=114795&d=1658526126

my grandfather is from the canary islands i did not know about possible irish descent, other than the surprise in my results from ireland and scotland ... but only 2% and 7% respectively....

That if I find interesting the possibility that it is a lineage related for some reason with the Phoenicians, curiously I have always been interested about them, Freemasonry, the crusades and many other topics that coincidentally my dna has made me delve deeper.

Now the truth is that I don't have any memory of my genealogy and my dad doesn't know much either. my grandfather was very quiet, the only thing my dad said when I told him about the percentages of Scottish and Irish was to joke that maybe that's why he loved whiskey that much haha.

-MAT Breakdown
https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/277468612_10160165618651979_2627426186930190860_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=69C0AdLoGY0AX90HtAD&_nc_oc=AQnbzigbvewXZQm7uiQPEtTqYxyHuuzClY1eo2pC3Ie zDWZQRN1WNoFMHd5y9WDBQEI&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-2.fna&oh=00_AT8JKmOO97rQRKZhdiIPkAalhbJBq6tSMz82ceXy5HzF-w&oe=62E5AD58

- Ancient DeepDives Map vs heat map of R-Z2534
https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/295516138_10160386276791979_8884965495517361845_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=1iONyzDFk6EAX9_ptEq&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-2.fna&oh=00_AT-UaT9attr0t2gUE508D_QVvMvGaawPvhUn1CRzKyErmA&oe=62E6B4E1

- Clans matches


https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/294729084_10160386273621979_3301672318222276360_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=dkNO7xqHTCgAX99UENo&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-2.fna&oh=00_AT9K4OSz5iTJeJ7qDr6of-qd22Uu_7imjqVpEkuqS7e7rw&oe=62E55537

https://scontent.fymy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/290488261_585662316294066_8566042471293949834_n.pn g?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=0wXGVRecPe0AX92BUKU&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-1.fna&oh=03_AVKVn7RWDru3aA-yAUkicHtgnzupclLVgCu9wgVcPQuj8A&oe=6308309B




6 years ago before arriving in Canada I never thought I would have anything to do with the country, now it is curious to see that there is a connection after all.

Pheonician colonies Conection ? are the vikings pheonicias aswell ? xdxdxd this is so exciting lol ... is caledonia forest for real ? lol
https://www.worldhistory.org/uploads/images/68.png?v=1649489945

next patrick day will be extra fun xd

[Grace O'Malley]

It was Ancestry. Yes unfortunately they don't give you your ydna. If it was some site you upload to it might not be correct. The best way would be to get tested either at FTDNA and there is another company that does it and I think they are a little cheaper. It can get a bit pricey. If you put anything into Google it all comes up with FTDNA.

I've tested with FTDNA and I think it is worth it because they have groups you can join and also there are people there you can ask for information.

Good luck and if anyone can help with the other testing company and share any information that would be appreciated.

[Mayuk24]

It was Ancestry. Yes unfortunately they don't give you your ydna. If it was some site you upload to it might not be correct. The best way would be to get tested either at FTDNA and there is another company that does it and I think they are a little cheaper. It can get a bit pricey. If you put anything into Google it all comes up with FTDNA.

I've tested with FTDNA and I think it is worth it because they have groups you can join and also there are people there you can ask for information.

Good luck and if anyone can help with the other testing company and share any information that would be appreciated.

If that's what I thought, I know that ancesty technically does not do the Y test, someone recommended me a page where I don't know how it makes that prediction.

In any case I will post any progress.

In one of the trees that you sent I saw this branch, it would be great that after doing the test I would be here, since I was born in Venezuela which is next to Colombia and now I live in Canada, it would be a great coincidence lol

https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/291101019_5508359109185998_5702394196652825833_n.p ng?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=fiiLcCHkFE0AX_Y76V5&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-2.fna&oh=03_AVLldSsoQiAEN8Kvwc3ArxerZNgGkLiyOYq89OeeAanh jQ&oe=6305A875

[Grace O'Malley]

If that's what I thought, I know that ancesty technically does not do the Y test, someone recommended me a page where I don't know how it makes that prediction.

In any case I will post any progress.

In one of the trees that you sent I saw this branch, it would be great that after doing the test I would be here, since I was born in Venezuela which is next to Colombia and now I live in Canada, it would be a great coincidence lol

https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/291101019_5508359109185998_5702394196652825833_n.p ng?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=fiiLcCHkFE0AX_Y76V5&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-2.fna&oh=03_AVLldSsoQiAEN8Kvwc3ArxerZNgGkLiyOYq89OeeAanh jQ&oe=6305A875

Yes great. It would be exciting and interesting if it is the case that it is accurate. Please update if you have any more information. There is Wild Geese descendants that could be in Spain so anything is possible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_the_Wild_Geese

[JamesBond007]

If that's what I thought, I know that ancesty technically does not do the Y test, someone recommended me a page where I don't know how it makes that prediction.

In any case I will post any progress.

In one of the trees that you sent I saw this branch, it would be great that after doing the test I would be here, since I was born in Venezuela which is next to Colombia and now I live in Canada, it would be a great coincidence lol

https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/291101019_5508359109185998_5702394196652825833_n.p ng?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=fiiLcCHkFE0AX_Y76V5&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-2.fna&oh=03_AVLldSsoQiAEN8Kvwc3ArxerZNgGkLiyOYq89OeeAanh jQ&oe=6305A875

Brohamulous, AncestryDNA raw DNA has a few hundred Y-DNA markers so you are probably R1b , for sure .

I used Morley Y-DNA tool with my Ancestry file also Wegenes, ADNTRO, an app @ sequencing.com all say I am R1b-Z253 based on the same raw data file and that is probably not a coincidence so I say fuck shelling out more money to FTDNA.

Z253 is 22.2% of Cornwall England
12.8% of Ireland
18.9% of Scandinavia
21.2% of Iberia and Latin America
5.3% of Scotland

I am satisfied with knowing I am z253 but if you want deeper in the subclade you need FTDNA.

[Mayuk24]

Yes great. It would be exciting and interesting if it is the case that it is accurate. Please update if you have any more information. There is Wild Geese descendants that could be in Spain so anything is possible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_the_Wild_Geese


Interesting lecture , I did a search in those periods of time and well I match some people related to what is in that article , but more related to French rather than Spain at that point.

-sample matches map 1560-1800

https://scontent.fymy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/291510134_2897480667214443_7381191266296117407_n.p ng?stp=dst-png_s2048x2048&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=JXENUg2fvIwAX-hyuzs&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-1.fna&oh=03_AVK7wRZU-ffqPyS4YQT3LuvIqrcBQNzAzkffWMwzP8cg0Q&oe=6305ABFD


sample matches map 1547-1560 ... Spain samples maybe add with the article ... but this german commun grave.... made me think was during "protestant times" ... so who knows..

https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/294554829_624879509057799_6746718637596591917_n.pn g?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=_GLxDgfoq3EAX-LIgMN&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-2.fna&oh=03_AVLANTU6Bl9nwtMpt_Tnv_Am2A3wlnFFOH_sxRhOzSqZ Hg&oe=630838C0


sample matches map 1250-1540 , you can see that most likely "the ashkenazi pop ... again germany , some again in spain , and vikings ? .. I now in older maps 800 ish those samples in Denmark are viking samples..

https://scontent.fymy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/293477482_776366650057171_4423576838993171302_n.pn g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=zBOAY1DHUe0AX8FLiQ9&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-1.fna&oh=03_AVKKQ8Mg7tbnqY3kManQkjUa4tXyD5-FmjRmQ9dTgjJa_Q&oe=6307B9F2

[Mayuk24]

Brohamulous, AncestryDNA raw DNA has a few hundred Y-DNA markers so you are probably R1b , for sure .

I used Morley Y-DNA tool with my Ancestry file also Wegenes, ADNTRO, an app @ sequencing.com all say I am R1b-Z253 based on the same raw data file and that is probably not a coincidence so I say fuck shelling out more money to FTDNA.

Z253 is 22.2% of Cornwall England
12.8% of Ireland
18.9% of Scandinavia
21.2% of Iberia and Latin America
5.3% of Scotland

I am satisfied with knowing I am z253 but if you want deeper in the subclade you need FTDNA.


what about nebula ? 100% dna decoding advertising ... xd

I found some ireland matches samples on 900-1000 A.D , is there any relation bewteen jew , irish people and vikings ?

https://scontent.fymy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/293783320_1458413117959868_6199271451210306927_n.p ng?stp=dst-png_s2048x2048&_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=uPi08fpHLTYAX9mTHv1&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-1.fna&oh=03_AVKVZ5jBh4Hvv4OlRUFa15QHbNNR9PxUHc1lmNHF3xbs Jg&oe=63079F62



-samples in Ireland ... and something happen during 300 BC and 100 AD ... most samples matches were on england and the switch to Italy.... since then the samples in italy go uninterruptedly from 100 AD to 1800...

https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/293964888_374203061553345_9010767193576430753_n.pn g?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=7lRuOCwe-XAAX-9MEL4&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-2.fna&oh=03_AVKq0UznWFzBkMYRmDX6Jr4pYQ7Oy4IjW8PUaTS_Dcdv 4w&oe=6306FEBD

[Grace O'Malley]

what about nebula ? 100% dna decoding advertising ... xd

I found some ireland matches samples on 900-1000 A.D , is there any relation bewteen jew , irish people and vikings ?

https://scontent.fymy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/293783320_1458413117959868_6199271451210306927_n.p ng?stp=dst-png_s2048x2048&_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=uPi08fpHLTYAX9mTHv1&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-1.fna&oh=03_AVKVZ5jBh4Hvv4OlRUFa15QHbNNR9PxUHc1lmNHF3xbs Jg&oe=63079F62



-samples in Ireland ... and something happen during 300 BC and 100 AD ... most samples matches were on england and the switch to Italy.... since then the samples in italy go uninterruptedly from 100 AD to 1800...

https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/293964888_374203061553345_9010767193576430753_n.pn g?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=7lRuOCwe-XAAX-9MEL4&_nc_ht=scontent.fymy1-2.fna&oh=03_AVKq0UznWFzBkMYRmDX6Jr4pYQ7Oy4IjW8PUaTS_Dcdv 4w&oe=6306FEBD


Your using MTA which is just showing what ancient samples you are closest distance to. Also that Kiltasheen sample never comes up close for me. I don't know much about it. While MyTrueAncestry is interesting because of the samples I doubt you're related to them. There is also hardly no dna samples from Ireland on MTA. From your map I see they have quite a few Neolithic samples. Most of the samples you are matching are Neolithic and that is because of distance not actual ancestry. The samples I match are nearly all Bronze Age and none are Neolithic. Most Irish today match the Bronze Age samples due to closer distances. More Southern Europeans would match the Neolithic samples and again that is just due to closer distance. It does not mean actual ancestry from these samples.

Just to explain how this site works this is the closest ancient populations I get. This is all just based on close distance.

Viking Danish + Celt (2.517)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (2.569)
Viking Icelandic + Briton (2.856)
Viking + Celt (3.544)
Viking Danish + Briton (4.388)
Celt (5.588)
Viking Danish (6.313)
Briton (6.392)
Viking Icelandic (6.579)

My Top 10.

1. Iron Age Oxfordshire Yarnton England
300 BC - Genetic Distance: 1.983 - I20586
Top 0 % match vs all users


2. Scotland Late Bronze Age
900 BC - Genetic Distance: 2.065 - I2861
Top 100 % match vs all users


3. Bronze Age Bedfordshire England
1254 BC - Genetic Distance: 2.377 - I7577
Top 100 % match vs all users


4. Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland
925 AD - Genetic Distance: 2.688 - VDP-A6
Top 100 % match vs all users


5. Bell Beaker Willington England
2100 BC - Genetic Distance: 3.39 - I2452
Top 99 % match vs all users


6. Post Viking Era Greenland Western Settlement
1404 AD - Genetic Distance: 3.604 - VK190
Top 100 % match vs all users


7. Iron Age Briton Thornholme East Riding of Yorkshire
280 BC - Genetic Distance: 3.823 - I22056
Top 0 % match vs all users


8. Bronze Age Prague-Jinonice Central Bohemia
1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.202 - I15825
Top 0 % match vs all users


9. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech
1813 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.348 - I4895
Top 100 % match vs all users


10. Iron Age North Perrott Somerset England
40 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.388 - I11144
Top 0 % match vs all users

[Mayuk24]

Your using MTA which is just showing what ancient samples you are closest distance to. Also that Kiltasheen sample never comes up close for me. I don't know much about it. While MyTrueAncestry is interesting because of the samples I doubt you're related to them. There is also hardly no dna samples from Ireland on MTA. From your map I see they have quite a few Neolithic samples. Most of the samples you are matching are Neolithic and that is because of distance not actual ancestry. The samples I match are nearly all Bronze Age and none are Neolithic. Most Irish today match the Bronze Age samples due to closer distances. More Southern Europeans would match the Neolithic samples and again that is just due to closer distance. It does not mean actual ancestry from these samples.

Just to explain how this site works this is the closest ancient populations I get. This is all just based on close distance.

Viking Danish + Celt (2.517)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (2.569)
Viking Icelandic + Briton (2.856)
Viking + Celt (3.544)
Viking Danish + Briton (4.388)
Celt (5.588)
Viking Danish (6.313)
Briton (6.392)
Viking Icelandic (6.579)

My Top 10.

1. Iron Age Oxfordshire Yarnton England
300 BC - Genetic Distance: 1.983 - I20586
Top 0 % match vs all users


2. Scotland Late Bronze Age
900 BC - Genetic Distance: 2.065 - I2861
Top 100 % match vs all users


3. Bronze Age Bedfordshire England
1254 BC - Genetic Distance: 2.377 - I7577
Top 100 % match vs all users


4. Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland
925 AD - Genetic Distance: 2.688 - VDP-A6
Top 100 % match vs all users


5. Bell Beaker Willington England
2100 BC - Genetic Distance: 3.39 - I2452
Top 99 % match vs all users


6. Post Viking Era Greenland Western Settlement
1404 AD - Genetic Distance: 3.604 - VK190
Top 100 % match vs all users


7. Iron Age Briton Thornholme East Riding of Yorkshire
280 BC - Genetic Distance: 3.823 - I22056
Top 0 % match vs all users


8. Bronze Age Prague-Jinonice Central Bohemia
1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.202 - I15825
Top 0 % match vs all users


9. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech
1813 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.348 - I4895
Top 100 % match vs all users


10. Iron Age North Perrott Somerset England
40 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.388 - I11144
Top 0 % match vs all users

I agree MTA works by genetic distance and that sucks, especially for me being mixed with Native American (my closest distances are 25 both modern and ancient).

but still it is a very useful tool , there is a specific time frame where my samples are mostly found in Denmark and they are Viking , very similar to your results c;

map 777 - 906 ad

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/295813622_1436698840137710_962870734072974907_n.pn g?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=WE4eZrC0YPoAX8xATh7&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=03_AVK1exobCZfbNd6hi8YoGyukJ5i8olPxqBzAAVPQ7tmK og&oe=630675B5

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/293628727_1229450847868959_4901053691717414899_n.p ng?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=egbYvu3vCIMAX8Au10O&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=03_AVIVXhkHMonk437MzyranqV-I9-7AwT0Edp_a7EwJiGJkg&oe=63068A6E

I can make a bypass with the european archeological map function, it confines me only the samples to europe and I can also choose the time gap, this allows me to see movement patterns, etc, with a little history and reading one can find the logic of it;

I think my mom is of Italian/ or Greek Jewish ancestry and my Y-dna Irish .... the midpoint in the logical genetic distance is north italiano / spanish ... c;

is funny how north italian is my 1. closest pop with 25! distance and ... I don't have any italian in Ancestry result.

[Andullero]

It was Ancestry. Yes unfortunately they don't give you your ydna. If it was some site you upload to it might not be correct. The best way would be to get tested either at FTDNA and there is another company that does it and I think they are a little cheaper. It can get a bit pricey. If you put anything into Google it all comes up with FTDNA.

I've tested with FTDNA and I think it is worth it because they have groups you can join and also there are people there you can ask for information.

Good luck and if anyone can help with the other testing company and share any information that would be appreciated.

My case is weird, since I found that on that site my R-U152 tends to peak more in the UK than it does on the Italian north it's given as its urheimat in academia. As the most famous historical members of said group are the Plantagenet dynasty, methinks these and their Norman/Angevin entourage were more successful at spreading their genes there than they are given credit for.

[Grace O'Malley]

My case is weird, since I found that on that site my R-U152 tends to peak more in the UK than it does on the Italian north it's given as its urheimat in academia. As the most famous historical members of said group are the Plantagenet dynasty, methinks these and their Norman/Angevin entourage were more successful at spreading their genes there than they are given credit for.

U152 definitely came to England from the Continent. It also wasn't in samples from the Bell Beaker era. There was more information about ydna on Anthrogenica but I wouldn't be surprised if Normans brought U152 into Britain. With more studies this sort of thing will be more clear.

[vader]

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6 years ago before arriving in Canada I never thought I would have anything to do with the country, now it is curious to see that there is a connection after all.


next patrick day will be extra fun xd


I have a Portuguese cousin on 23andMe who gets a common Irish / Scottish y-dna:

https://i.imgur.com/gZT1L4M.png

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L1335/
So it definitely can happen...

[Mayuk24]

I have a Portuguese cousin on 23andMe who gets a common Irish y-dna:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L1335/
So it definitely can happen...

-well then the question is ... do i look Irish ?
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/295046654_747767789869617_702768574682813756_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=ARQ4G-IlEO0AX9eFzhY&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=03_AVIiVLBvphNC3qTNIMBnJxWTuVv4KAU-lNwgOqq0ZxRmzg&oe=63032E70

se que la uniceja es de mi 14% portugues haha c:


My case is weird, since I found that on that site my R-U152 tends to peak more in the UK than it does on the Italian north it's given as its urheimat in academia. As the most famous historical members of said group are the Plantagenet dynasty, methinks these and their Norman/Angevin entourage were more successful at spreading their genes there than they are given credit for.

I wasn't expecting this neither.... was kinda a surprise , but cool now I can party a hard on St. Patrick's Day. here on Canada c;

[vader]

-well then the question is ... do i look Irish ?
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/295046654_747767789869617_702768574682813756_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=ARQ4G-IlEO0AX9eFzhY&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=03_AVIiVLBvphNC3qTNIMBnJxWTuVv4KAU-lNwgOqq0ZxRmzg&oe=63032E70

se que la uniceja es de mi 14% portugues haha c:

i'm bad at guessing where people are from, so idk. I'm way more Mediterranid influenced in my looks personally.

[Grace O'Malley]

I won't quote your picture but you can pass in a lot of European countries. You have lovely hair.