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White Swan
08-08-2022, 12:57 PM
Found my birth family. My maternal grandma was a card carrying native, lived on the reservation (Cherokee/Chickasaw). Actually she was not allowed to bring my mom and I on because we were the product of breeding with the white man and on top of that she was a direct descednant of a chief. But the thing is, my DNA test shows I am 100% European. What is this?

Also my mtdna is X2

White Swan
08-08-2022, 01:23 PM
Am I like living proof that their were pure blooded European "natives" over here this whole time? Now being breed out of our homeland by brown "natives"? That would be the way it goes, right...

Apparently my grandma was adamant that this family genealogy book was made, a very large, inches-thick genealogy book. But now that she's passed, for some reason, my aunt has taken it and is withholding it from the rest of the family.

strike978
08-11-2022, 11:16 AM
Why are you Americans that are really just northern European always trying to claim you are part native American with that Cherokee princess nonsense????

I'm very offended by your post as a Hispanic as a person with actual native American ancestry. Seriously very offended

No you aren't part native American. I suggest you learn about genetics instead of fairy tales

Benyzero
08-11-2022, 11:39 AM
Card carrying native with probably a 70% western european dna lmao

gixajo
08-11-2022, 11:55 AM
Card carrying native with probably a 70% western european dna lmao

Well, Hungarians are Magyars because of their 5%* "Central Asian -like" Dna and Spanish are Moors because our 5%* "North African-like" Dna. ;)

*percentages are not accurate just to illustrate the point.

Kriptc06
08-11-2022, 12:35 PM
Mtdna X2a?


Haplogroup X is also one of the five haplogroups found in the indigenous peoples of the Americas.[12] (namely, X2a subclade).

Although it occurs only at a frequency of about 3% for the total current indigenous population of the Americas, it is a bigger haplogroup in northern North America, where among the Algonquian peoples it comprises up to 25% of mtDNA types.[13][14] It is also present in lesser percentages to the west and south of this area—among the Sioux (15%), the Nuu-chah-nulth (11%–13%), the Navajo (7%), and the Yakama (5%).[15][16] In Latin America, Haplotype X6 was present in the Tarahumara 1.8% (1/53) and Huichol 20% (3/15)[17] X6 and X7 was also found in 12% in Yanomani people.[18]

Unlike the four main Native American mtDNA haplogroups (A, B, C, D), X is not strongly associated with East Asia. The main occurrence of X in Asia discovered so far is in the Altai people in Siberia.[19]

One theory of how the X Haplogroup ended up in North America is that the people carrying it migrated from central Asia along with haplogroups A, B, C, and D, from an ancestor from the Altai Region of Central Asia.[10] Two sequences of haplogroup X2 were sampled further east of Altai among the Evenks of Central Siberia.[10] These two sequences belong to X2* and X2b. It is uncertain if they represent a remnant of the migration of X2 through Siberia or a more recent input.[10]

This relative absence of haplogroup X2 in Asia is one of the major factors used to support the Solutrean hypothesis during the early 2000s. The Solutrean hypothesis postulates that haplogroup X reached North America with a wave of European migration emerging from the Solutrean culture, a stone-age culture in south-western France and in Spain, by boat around the southern edge of the Arctic ice pack roughly 20,000 years ago.[20][21] Since the later 2000s and during the 2010s, evidence has turned against the Solutrean hypothesis, as no presence of mt-DNA ancestral to X2a has been found in Europe or the Near East. New World lineages X2a and X2g are not derived form the Old World lineages X2b, X2c, X2d, X2e, and X2f, indicating an early origin of the New World lineages "likely at the very beginning of their expansion and spread from the Near East".[10] A 2008 study came to the conclusion that the presence of haplogroup X in the Americas does not support migration from Solutrean-period Europe.[15] The lineage of haplogroup X in the Americas is not derived from a European subclade, but rather represent an independent subclade, labelled X2a.[22] The X2a subclade has not been found in Eurasia, and has most likely arisen within the early Paleo-Indian population, at roughly 13,000 years ago.[23] A basal variant of X2a was found in the Kennewick Man fossil (ca. 9,000 years ago).[24]

Mejgusu
08-11-2022, 02:38 PM
We have a Native American member here too, his name is Richmondbread. His DNA tests never show Native American ancestry but he has, maybe European ancestry is too dominant to estimate Amerindian admixture.

Friends of Oliver Society
08-11-2022, 03:15 PM
It's very strange. It's strange because the Amerinidan ancestry should show up because it's too recent to have been 'bred out' (for lack of better words) and I'd find it highly unusual that it would have already been bred out with your mother considering what you have said in your post. Maybe the answer can be through the results of cousins.

Incal
08-11-2022, 03:52 PM
The one drop rule has caused a lot of harm in the US.

Aila
08-11-2022, 06:02 PM
Have you tried all the different calculators available?

Sometimes I wish I was a ….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aguZjkVLaE



Turkic calculator

Aila 'ftdna':
15.94% SE_European
0.00% W_Asian
0.02% SE_Asian
0.00% SSA
48.79% NE_European
0.00% Indian
20.66% NW_European
8.65% Turkic
1.15% Mongol
0.00% Papuan
4.79% NE_Asian

Kenwick man, US, 8358 years old:
0.00% SE_European
0.00% W_Asian
2.91% SE_Asian
2.74% SSA
12.55% NE_European
7.93% Indian
3.26% NW_European
25.14% Turkic
26.10% Mongol
0.00% Papuan
19.36% NE_Asian

Roy
08-11-2022, 10:04 PM
Maybe you were ... adopted.

zebruh
08-20-2022, 05:11 AM
Your grandmother wasnt pure native obviously if her mtdna is native american. She was likely half native or less.

Fortnite777
09-02-2022, 05:58 AM
Card carrying native with probably a 70% western european dna lmao

This, or OP's mom was just adopted.