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Barreldriver
04-12-2009, 04:23 PM
In your opinion do you think Yorkshire to be more Celtic or Germanic? i.e. in the trend of how East Anglia has traditionally been considered Germanic due to Anglos, Danes, etc... what about Yorkshire, I'm aware that there was a substantial Briton population during and before the Roman's, but I'm not too sure how much they survived on, and from what I read there's a decent Norse influence in the region?

RoyBatty
04-12-2009, 04:30 PM
Has a fair amount of Danish influence due to Viking settlement activities. Not too long ago some poor politically correct Danish politician even apologised for this.....the mind boggles. :rolleyes:

Intermingling subsequently took place between the settlers and the locals. That's about as much as I know about it.

Barreldriver
04-12-2009, 04:33 PM
Has a fair amount of Danish influence due to Viking settlement activities. Not too long ago some poor politically correct Danish politician even apologised for this.....the mind boggles. :rolleyes:

Intermingling subsequently took place between the settlers and the locals. That's about as much as I know about it.

I'm deeply interested in the region, especially due to a genealogical connection, my main line being from there and a few more, it seems my surname is a S.E. English name but my family has no records outside of Yorkshire. :P Curious to learn more about the region so I can determine whether they adopted a surname maybe due to Celtic or Norse origins or just moved there from S.E. England(to figure this out I'm curious about what predominant groups moved to Yorkshire around the 1600's).

RoyBatty
04-12-2009, 04:36 PM
It's worth a visit. They have a Viking museum in York with many artifacts and a little railsystem that takes you through one of those "timetunnels". Hadrians Wall (Roman time) isn't too far away either if you were inclined to spend a couple of days driving and sightseeing. Also worth a look.

Barreldriver
04-12-2009, 04:41 PM
It's worth a visit. They have a Viking museum in York with many artifacts and a little railsystem that takes you through one of those "timetunnels". Hadrians Wall (Roman time) isn't too far away either if you were inclined to spend a couple of days driving and sightseeing. Also worth a look.

Definitely want to check that out, sounds BA. Need to save up some intense dough though lol.

Treffie
04-12-2009, 05:15 PM
I agree with Roy, Yorkshire is a very Germanic area, it was ruled by Danelaw for hundreds of years. (This is where I get one of my Germanic bits from)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danelaw#History

Barreldriver
04-12-2009, 05:32 PM
I agree with Roy, Yorkshire is a very Germanic area, it was ruled by Danelaw for hundreds of years. (This is where I get one of my Germanic bits from)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danelaw#History

Damn, according to the map there 100% of my English ancestry is Danelaw. :P

Fortis in Arduis
04-13-2009, 01:09 AM
Yes, there is a Danish viking influence, which people from North-East Scotland (Norwegian viking) notice, and feel a connection to, when they visit Yorkshire.

Osweo
04-13-2009, 01:31 AM
Horrendously Danish, in the eastern half, and also in the Dales too, oddly enough.

The Anglian element must have been huge though, from the toponymy, and is obscured by the Danish layer. The two merged seamlessly.

Lots of Celtic stuff in certain nooks and crannies in the hills. See Craven, Dent and the village named Wales in the far south.

Read this:
http://www.yorkshiredialect.com/EnglishPN.htm#britset
http://www.yorkshiredialect.com/celtpn.htm
http://www.yorkshiredialect.com/

Barreldriver
04-13-2009, 01:40 AM
Horrendously Danish, in the eastern half, and also in the Dales too, oddly enough.

The Anglian element must have been huge though, from the toponymy, and is obscured by the Danish layer. The two merged seamlessly.

Lots of Celtic stuff in certain nooks and crannies in the hills. See Craven, Dent and the village named Wales in the far south.

Read this:
http://www.yorkshiredialect.com/EnglishPN.htm#britset
http://www.yorkshiredialect.com/celtpn.htm
http://www.yorkshiredialect.com/


I'm guessing the Yorkshire folk are the hillbilly's of England eh? lol

Osweo
04-13-2009, 01:53 AM
I'm guessing the Yorkshire folk are the hillbilly's of England eh? lol

Hehe, I wouldn't disagree! :D Does it include a reputed predeliction for er, ....woolly bestiality?

Them and the Cumbrians. And with the Welsh to the southwest, we Lancastrians are damn near surrounded! :eek:

Yorkshire's pretty big and thus internally varied a place, of course. Your real caricature Tyke is in the north and north east. The ones just over the border from me are almost normal people.

Barreldriver
04-13-2009, 01:55 AM
Hehe, I wouldn't disagree! :D Does it include a reputed predeliction for er, ....woolly bestiality?

Them and the Cumbrians. And with the Welsh to the southwest, we Lancastrians are damn near surrounded! :eek:

Yorkshire's pretty big and thus internally varied a place, of course. Your real caricature Tyke is in the north and north east. The ones just over the border from me are almost normal people.

I just noticed that some of the grammar on the page you had links for about the Yorkshire dialect are similar to some of the grammar I and my folks use lol.

Skandi
04-13-2009, 02:12 AM
Hehe, I wouldn't disagree! :D Does it include a reputed predeliction for er, ....woolly bestiality?

Them and the Cumbrians. And with the Welsh to the southwest, we Lancastrians are damn near surrounded! :eek:

Yorkshire's pretty big and thus internally varied a place, of course. Your real caricature Tyke is in the north and north east. The ones just over the border from me are almost normal people.

Don't forget cornwall and somerset, right farrrrmerrs down there :)

(you try writing a westcountry accent!)

Gooding
04-13-2009, 04:24 AM
I agree with Roy, Yorkshire is a very Germanic area, it was ruled by Danelaw for hundreds of years. (This is where I get one of my Germanic bits from)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danelaw#History

Gods damn..according to this map, 100% of my people from England lived in the Anglo-Saxon held areas..well, Was Hael, then!:D I guess I'd better brush up on my theodisc knowhow...

Barreldriver
04-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Gods damn..according to this map, 100% of my people from England lived in the Anglo-Saxon held areas..well, Was Hael, then!:D I guess I'd better brush up on my theodisc knowhow...

and I better brush up on Old Danish and Old Norse :P Danelaw reborn! lol :D

Freomęg
04-13-2009, 02:39 PM
In terms of sub-type and look, I've always found Yorkshire one of the most diverse counties. Certainly some quite Scandinavian-looking types in the area.

Barreldriver
04-13-2009, 02:46 PM
In terms of sub-type and look, I've always found Yorkshire one of the most diverse counties. Certainly some quite Scandinavian-looking types in the area.

And there's also a lot of Irish looking or Bruennish types as well. Quite a mix up, then again parts of Scandinavia suffer the same in terms of Bruennid, Nordid, Borreby mix ups.

Treffie
04-13-2009, 02:49 PM
And there's also a lot of Irish looking or Bruennish types as well. Quite a mix up, then again parts of Scandinavia suffer the same in terms of Bruennid, Nordid, Borreby mix ups.

Don't forget though that Yorkshire is a very cosmopolitan area these days. The cities of Bradford and Leeds in particular, non-Muslims maybe hard to find.:(

Osweo
04-13-2009, 03:25 PM
Don't forget though that Yorkshire is a very cosmopolitan area these days. The cities of Bradford and Leeds in particular, non-Muslims maybe hard to find.:(
The Third Worlders are reasonably easy to spot (!) but for our purposes, the amount of intra-British, and even intra-English, migration that the industrial towns of the West Riding have experienced will have had a marked effect on their anthropological and cultural realia. As in most British cities.

Barreldriver
04-13-2009, 03:34 PM
Don't forget though that Yorkshire is a very cosmopolitan area these days. The cities of Bradford and Leeds in particular, non-Muslims maybe hard to find.:(

That's a shame. :( I had thought Yorkshire would have remained pretty rural damn that sucks. Shows how much I know lol. :D

Treffie
04-13-2009, 03:54 PM
That's a shame. :( I had thought Yorkshire would have remained pretty rural damn that sucks. Shows how much I know lol. :D

North Yorkshire is still very rural, it's also the largest county in England, but when you venture to South and West Yorkshire, you'll find huge industrial areas.