Autistic PhenoType ?

[Richmondbread]

Do autistics have different kind of facial characteristics? I notice a few things:



1.Autists tend to be either too fat or too thin. Rarely ideal.

2. Tend to have wide set eyes, and an almost "angelic" stare

3.Can be attractive but always something "off" like having a "baby face" (Neonatal)

4. Tend to look younger for their ages

5. Often clumsy in one way, but superior in others (i.e. awkward walking, but great swimmer/musician)


https://i.warosu.org/data/fa/img/0102/89/1440350141912.jpg



https://youtu.be/YQ5RvxXncRc

[Aila]

A couple of Aspies I know do have the ‘owl’ stare, which can be quite adorable:

https://i.ibb.co/0F5wgHn/Owl.jpg

[Anglo-Celtic]

Do autistics have different kind of facial characteristics? I notice a few things:



1.Autists tend to be either too fat or too thin. Rarely ideal.

3.Can be attractive but always something "off" like having a "baby face" (Neonatal)

4. Tend to look younger for their ages

I'm a mesomorphic guy who had a baby face in the past. The autism gene missed me, but the OCD gene hit me like a Mack truck.

[JamesBond007]

This is peak neoliberalism capitalism: #latecapitialism



One of the more recent psychological ‘conditions’ which arouses the concern of employers is ‘autism.’ It has been argued that the massive increases in the diagnosis of this condition (note –there are no biological tests to identify it) coincide with the need for what is called ‘emotional labour’ in the workforce. It is no longer enough just to shift product –one must now do it with a smile, with ‘sincerity,’ with a friendly touch. From cabin crew keeping irritated passengers at bay on long-haul flights, through lecturers ‘enhancing the student experience’ in higher education, to sex-workers faking the appearance of love for their clients, emotional labour is in vogue. Consider Consider the almost-real girlfriend experience –now de rigueur in the escort business (Sanders, 2008) –to be compared for favourability with the all-too-real bank- manager experience which is now de rigueur in the course of an education in psychology. Fake sincerity is in and it is everywhere, and it is no longer enough just to fake it. It must be real even as one is faking it.

The manipulation of psychological states, feelings and senti- ments thus plays a key role in market transactions in the 21st century. Con artists employing fraud and deceit have always made use of them. What we now have is merely an extension of this strategy. People have to be cheated out of their money. With scripted emotion it is less likely the customer will complain. Faking of emotions now demonstrates ‘good’ psychological skills –like numeracy and literacy –much needed by employers. It is not hard therefore to see why psychology is now big business and why it is a major contributor to the escalating unreality of reality. As life comes to feel more unreal we are sold virtual realities to enhance it, which of course only serves to make it yet more unreal.

-->Roberts, R. (2015) Psychology and Capitalism: The Manipulation of Mind. Alresford: Zero Books.

[Pietro97]

I didn't know that sean o'pry is autistic

[Richmondbread]

I didn't know that sean o'pry is autistic

He has the pheno, IMO.

[Richmondbread]

This is peak neoliberalism capitalism: #latecapitialism



One of the more recent psychological ‘conditions’ which arouses the concern of employers is ‘autism.’ It has been argued that the massive increases in the diagnosis of this condition (note –there are no biological tests to identify it) coincide with the need for what is called ‘emotional labour’ in the workforce. It is no longer enough just to shift product –one must now do it with a smile, with ‘sincerity,’ with a friendly touch. From cabin crew keeping irritated passengers at bay on long-haul flights, through lecturers ‘enhancing the student experience’ in higher education, to sex-workers faking the appearance of love for their clients, emotional labour is in vogue. Consider Consider the almost-real girlfriend experience –now de rigueur in the escort business (Sanders, 2008) –to be compared for favourability with the all-too-real bank- manager experience which is now de rigueur in the course of an education in psychology. Fake sincerity is in and it is everywhere, and it is no longer enough just to fake it. It must be real even as one is faking it.

The manipulation of psychological states, feelings and senti- ments thus plays a key role in market transactions in the 21st century. Con artists employing fraud and deceit have always made use of them. What we now have is merely an extension of this strategy. People have to be cheated out of their money. With scripted emotion it is less likely the customer will complain. Faking of emotions now demonstrates ‘good’ psychological skills –like numeracy and literacy –much needed by employers. It is not hard therefore to see why psychology is now big business and why it is a major contributor to the escalating unreality of reality. As life comes to feel more unreal we are sold virtual realities to enhance it, which of course only serves to make it yet more unreal.

-->Roberts, R. (2015) Psychology and Capitalism: The Manipulation of Mind. Alresford: Zero Books.

You always go on some non sensical unrelated rant. I wish you could be more normal, like me.

[Aila]

It is quite a long time ago when I glanced through this book:

https://img.thriftbooks.com/api/images/m/37eb5b2e127d20bec752fa326763ed99e2fa6c93.jpg

From memory, she has two Autistic sons and has a bit of that ‘owl’ stare herself.

Karen L. DeFelice and her two boys deal with pervasive neurological and sensory integration dysfunctions, and have seen dramatic improvement in their conditions through the use of enzyme therapy. Karen has a Masters in Science, and works in education and the sciences.
Don’t know if enzyme therapy works, but one could always give it a try.

Another book of hers:
“Enzymes for Autism and Other Neurological Conditions”

[JamesBond007]

You always go on some non sensical unrelated rant. I wish you could be more normal, like me.

It is nonsensical to illiterate hillbilly redneck such as yourself :

"As Roberts (2015: 24) has pointed out of the recent increase in the use of the “autism” label by the psy-professions, the pathologisation of shyness reflects neoliberal capital’s desire for “emotional labour” within the work force. “It is no longer enough just to shift product,” states Roberts (2015: 24), “one must now do it with a smile, with ‘sincerity,’ with a friendly touch.” "

---->Cohen,B. Psychiatric Hegemony : A Marxist Theory of Mental Illness. Palgrave-Macmillan.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

A couple of Aspies I know do have the ‘owl’ stare, which can be quite adorable:

https://i.ibb.co/0F5wgHn/Owl.jpg

Adam Lanza comes to mind.

[Anglo-Celtic]

It is nonsensical to illiterate hillbilly redneck such as yourself :

Sean O'Pry is both Irish and Southern. That must be a double whammy to people like you. ;-)

[Anglo-Celtic]

Adam Lanza comes to mind.

No doubt! Also, never trust a male over 12 with a bowl haircut (Adam Lanza, Dylan Roof, Daddy Turpin, etc.).

[Richmondbread]

It is nonsensical to illiterate hillbilly redneck such as yourself :

"As Roberts (2015: 24) has pointed out of the recent increase in the use of the “autism” label by the psy-professions, the pathologisation of shyness reflects neoliberal capital’s desire for “emotional labour” within the work force. “It is no longer enough just to shift product,” states Roberts (2015: 24), “one must now do it with a smile, with ‘sincerity,’ with a friendly touch.” "

---->Cohen,B. Psychiatric Hegemony : A Marxist Theory of Mental Illness. Palgrave-Macmillan.

New York is full of cads and you Sir are no Gentleman. Also, not everything has a political angle.

[Italicus]

:picard2:

[Hyena]

I wish you could be more normal, like me.

Didn' your father grab you by the throat and command you to 'act normal'?

[Odelia]

OP logic:

>Autistic phenotype face
>Proceeds to put an ideal male face

:bored:

[Richmondbread]

OP logic:

>Autistic phenotype face
>Proceeds to put an ideal male face

:bored:

I wouldn't say O'Pry is "ideal". He is kind of alien looking. Certainly not classically handsome like a Robert Redford or Henry Cavill.

[Odelia]

I wouldn't say O'Pry is "ideal". He is kind of alien looking. Certainly not classically handsome like a Robert Redford or Henry Cavill.
He's not my type either. But I admit that he looks good....And Robert Redford? *cringes*

[Richmondbread]

He's not my type either. But I admit that he looks good....And Robert Redford? *cringes*

Perhaps not, but Robert Redford in his prime was more conventionally handsome. Most male models are not classically handsome, just very underweight and tall.

[jakob]

There are different autistic facial archetypes due to differing underlying causes of autism. The characteristically autistic face I believe is one of high prenatal tesosterone. Wide-set eyes, short midface, broad and short philtrum, low set brow-ridge, etc. Unfortunately I got the narrow orbital, doe-eyed autistic face. I think the only autistic-looking thing about Sean O'Pry is his eyes.
Sean O'Pry also has a similarly very handsome autistic lookalike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jrqpn60d4A
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6571684/
This study corroborates the wide eye spacing and compact midface.
I also agree with the weight thing, and I think generally speaking people with autism just look odd to varying degrees. Odd physical mannerisms also seem to be another giveaway (at least in my case).