Who are the darkest Europeans?

[manu15151513]

Excluding micronations such as cyprus and mortar


Is it possible there isn't a non-troll among you who has traveled to Europe and can answer the question seriously?

[Richard Alvarez]

Greeks.

[ecptr]

Italians and Iberians are the darkest Europeans. Greeks are lighter than both groups.

[manu15151513]

Greeks.

I have seen a lot of of Greeks and from central Italians I can say they are pale as fuck compared to us. I don't know why people portray them as dark.

[catgeorge]

We are the darkest - don't step on our thunder and woggy glory.

[Pater Patota]

Cypriots
Cretans
Sicilians
S.Italians
Andalusians

[Benyzero]

You are you gay brown hobbit, did you lost your medications again?

[Bulb]

Travelled in whole Europe, it's a silly question.
There are dark and light types all over southern Europe. Darkest are in the Aegean area.

https://i.imgur.com/XlRgEqD.png
https://i.imgur.com/Xn2mepL.png

[manu15151513]

You are you gay brown hobbit, did you lost your medications again?

How retarded you have to be, at your age, to sneak into a thread like this, poor retarded brother and sister son, may you and your whole trisomic family die

[Banyalbuff]

Sardinians.

[manu15151513]

You are you gay brown hobbit, did you lost your medications again?

How retarded you have to be, at your age, to sneak into a thread like this, poor retarded brother and sister son, may you and your whole trisomic family die

[kaltar]

Greek islanders, Sardinians, southern Italians, southern Iberians.

[manu15151513]

Travelled in whole Europe, it's a silly question.
There are dark and light types all over southern Europe. Darkest are in the Aegean area.

https://i.imgur.com/XlRgEqD.png
https://i.imgur.com/Xn2mepL.png

you have traveled all over europe but you are a shit retard, evidently. clearly meant where the frequency is highest, you retarded bastard. And besides, you didn't travel to Greece for a fucking ugly idiot, apart from going to Crete and never leaving there, perhaps, as the average Greece is much clearer than the central and southern Italian average.

Having traveled all over Europe and contributing in such a reductive and insane way to the thread is a sign of your mental inferiority.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDZeJo8zxx4

[Bulb]

you have traveled all over europe but you are a shit retard, evidently. clearly meant where the frequency is highest, you retarded bastard. And besides, you didn't travel to Greece for a fucking ugly idiot, apart from going to Crete and never leaving there, perhaps, as the average Greece is much clearer than the central and southern Italian average.

Having traveled all over Europe and contributing in such a reductive and insane way to the thread is a sign of your mental inferiority.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDZeJo8zxx4



The one who has a lot of problems is you, dark dwarf, you open a thread and try to impose answers because you don't like other people's comments. You are the classic case of someone who does not accept himself, and then desperately swarthify others. I have been to Greece many times. I have also been to Umbria, and in Umbria they were definitely less swarthy than in mainland Greece. The swarthiest area in central Italy is definitely Lazio, which is also the one closest to southern Italy.

[Septentrion]

Excluding micronations such as cyprus and mortar


Is it possible there isn't a non-troll among you who has traveled to Europe and can answer the question seriously?

Iberians are as a whole lighter-skinned than Italians.

[manu15151513]

I don't impose answers. I impose discussion. However, I think I answered you wrong because the mental retardation of that demented person on the thread earlier influenced me a little, as well as for your tones. Furthermore, there is not much discussion to do, just take a few minutes to see the faces and you come to an objective and independent conclusion. Have you been to northern Umbria? In northern Umbria and Lunigiana they are abnormally light skinned by central Italian and regional standards. I confess that I have not been to greece, but I have seen a lot of videos of Greeks from all regions to get an idea and people constantly notice that they are extremely pale in comparison. For example look at these Greeks from central Greece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wBurgW_IA and compare them with these Italians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzKBUWkzL8A&t=18s north of Rome. Huge difference.

[manu15151513]

The one who has a lot of problems is you, dark dwarf, you open a thread and try to impose answers because you don't like other people's comments. You are the classic case of someone who does not accept himself, and then desperately swarthify others. I have been to Greece many times. I have also been to Umbria, and in Umbria they were definitely less swarthy than in mainland Greece. The swarthiest area in central Italy is definitely Lazio, which is also the one closest to southern Italy.

I don't impose answers. I impose discussion. However, I think I answered you wrong because the mental retardation of that demented person on the thread earlier influenced me a little, as well as for your tones. Furthermore, there is not much discussion to do, just take a few minutes to see the faces and you come to an objective and independent conclusion. Have you been to northern Umbria? In northern Umbria and Lunigiana people are abnormally light skinned for be central Italians and regional standards. I confess that I have not been to greece, but I have seen a lot of videos of Greeks from all regions to get an idea and people constantly notice that they are extremely pale in comparison. For example look at these Greeks from central Greece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wBurgW_IA and compare them with these Italians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzKBUWkzL8A&t=18s north of Rome. Huge difference.

[Rædwald]

Italians, Greeks probably.

[ecptr]

Mainland Greeks aren't even racially Mediterranean, only Greek islanders are.

[manu15151513]

We are the darkest - don't step on our thunder and woggy glory.

You are pale as hell, I've seen many of you, other than darker Europeans, come to Italy to see really dark Europeans, pale-faced Greeks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c8p02VpIcM

[manu15151513]

Mainland Greeks aren't even racially Mediterranean, only Greek islanders are.

Italians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c8p02VpIcM


Greeks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wBurgW_IA&t=480s

you're absolutely right, I don't know why the Greeks are stereotyped as dark

[MandM]

I wont talk in behalf of all of Greece, but here in the north, i mean they are darker by far then any other Balkan country, it not even a litle hard to see who is Greek.
On an induvidual lever yes people can be dark as Greeks but as a hole Greek are by far darker, and I have seen Italians here to not many, but some and non of them was close to the medium Greek, this is just my opinion and observation

[MandM]

Duble post

[manu15151513]

I wont talk in behalf of all of Greece, but here in the north, i mean they are darker by far then any other Balkan country, it not even a litle hard to see who is Greek.
On an induvidual lever yes people can be dark as Greeks but as a hole Greek are by far darker, and I have seen Italians here to not many, but some and non of them was close to the medium Greek, this is just my opinion and observation

lol how do you get such a distorted view


Greeks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wBurgW_IA&t=506s

Italians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGu9zst_AzE


Very different, with the Greeks much paler

[Odelia]

Fuck threads like these! Italy, Greece, Iberia all have the same amount of dark and light people!!!! :picard2:

[manu15151513]

Fuck threads like these! Italy, Greece, Iberia all have the same amount of dark and light people!!!! :picard2:

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wBurgW_IA&t=330s

I am central Italian and these people are LIGHT YEARS paler than us, and they are central Greeks

And Albanians, kosovo, serbia, bulgaria and other southern Europeans are light years paler than us, Italians are more similar to northern Tunisians than to most southern Europeans, middle and middle ground between Albanians and Tunisians of the north.

Italy risk of sunburn is higher than greece, the average in Rome is 65% greece and 35% northern tunisia, therefore Italians in general should be as likely to have the same skin color as an average greek person 70% Tunisian from the north and 30% Greek modelable as a color, and in practice it is so from what I see. Risk of sunburn in southern Italy is a cross between greece and northern tunisia, and in fact from what I see this is clearly true for the color of the skin.

[Hoosierboy]

There is no such thing as dark Europeans. Just dark people who live in the south of Europe.

[MandM]

lol how do you get such a distorted view


Greeks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wBurgW_IA&t=506s

Italians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGu9zst_AzE


Very different, with the Greeks much paler
Its not disorted, it is what I have seen with my one eyes, i dont know were you got your view from,but i have been, too Spain, italy, Greece, and my personal observation is that Italians are not darker than Greeks on avrage.. you may not like it, and you dont have to, but that is how i see it, most italians i have seen are very pale but have dark hair, i meet one from calabria in Denmark he was white as snow and had blond hair and blue eyes

[Cristiano viejo]

There is no such thing as dark Europeans. Just dark people who live in the south of Europe.

And this is said by someone from a country filled of dark people :laugh2:

[Eliades]

There is no such thing as dark Europeans. Just dark people who live in the south of Europe.

I'd agree with this one for the most part, but if I had to say a specific area I'd say Portugal or Italy

[manu15151513]

Its not disorted, it is what I have seen with my one eyes, i dont know were you got your view from,but i have been, too Spain, italy, Greece, and my personal observation is that Italians are not darker than Greeks on avrage.. you may not like it, and you dont have to, but that is how i see it, most italians i have seen are very pale but have dark hair, i meet one from calabria in Denmark he was white as snow and had blond hair and blue eyes

I confess that I have not been to Greece, but being obsessive compulsive I have seen many and the difference I have seen is very evident, with the Greeks clearly paler. So I don't know why you say that. Maybe you only visited the Greek islands? Perhaps you have visited a Greek city that for some reason was a statistical outlier? Has your tourism in Italy been limited to a particular northern region? Perhaps knowing very few Italians by chance, have you met paler than average Italians? You said before that you have seen very few Italians, and now you tell me that you have been to Italy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAV2NRNHg2o, a video I found randomly now, for example

I see a very noticeable difference, but a lot

[manu15151513]

There is no such thing as dark Europeans. Just dark people who live in the south of Europe.

It depends on what you consider dark. Are Northern Tunisians dark? Well, Italians in general are far more similar to them than to the European average. Does this qualify them as dark or not? Of course by global standards they are not dark, but neither are they light ...

[manu15151513]

Its not disorted, it is what I have seen with my one eyes, i dont know were you got your view from,but i have been, too Spain, italy, Greece, and my personal observation is that Italians are not darker than Greeks on avrage.. you may not like it, and you dont have to, but that is how i see it, most italians i have seen are very pale but have dark hair, i meet one from calabria in Denmark he was white as snow and had blond hair and blue eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDj1ZpnG2Ng, they seem much paler to me than these, italians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ffz8Zdsc7I

[Odelia]

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wBurgW_IA&t=330s

I am central Italian and these people are LIGHT YEARS paler than us, and they are central Greeks

And Albanians, kosovo, serbia, bulgaria and other southern Europeans are light years paler than us, Italians are more similar to northern Tunisians than to most southern Europeans, middle and middle ground between Albanians and Tunisians of the north.

Italy risk of sunburn is higher than greece, the average in Rome is 65% greece and 35% northern tunisia, therefore Italians in general should be as likely to have the same skin color as an average greek person 70% Tunisian from the north and 30% Greek modelable as a color, and in practice it is so from what I see. Risk of sunburn in southern Italy is a cross between greece and northern tunisia, and in fact from what I see this is clearly true for the color of the skin.
And so what? Northern Italians in turn are lighter than northern Greeks!....Cutting off 2 inches on one end of a rug and sewing it on to the other end would not make it longer. Just because central Italians are darker than central greeks that doesn't mean all of Italy is now fucking darker! :bored: Y'all have equal amount of dark and light. Don't include and compare regions. Be fair and compare the whole nations!

[MandM]

I confess that I have not been to Greece, but being obsessive compulsive I have seen many and the difference I have seen is very evident, with the Greeks clearly paler. So I don't know why you say that. Maybe you only visited the Greek islands? Perhaps you have visited a Greek city that for some reason was a statistical outlier? Has your tourism in Italy been limited to a particular northern region? Perhaps knowing very few Italians by chance, have you met paler than average Italians? You said before that you have seen very few Italians, and now you tell me that you have been to Italy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAV2NRNHg2o, a video I found randomly now, for example

I see a very noticeable difference, but a lot
I said that here in Greece i have seen few Italians, and the ones here they are lighter then Greeks, But I have also been to Italy. I havent been too all of Greece and to all of Italy, i said the observation from my personal experions is that the Greeks are darker

[Cristiano viejo]

And so what? Northern Italians in turn are lighter than northern Greeks!

Stop being ashamed of dark people, Odelia! dark people are beautiful, men are handsome and blablablabla :lol:

[manu15151513]

And so what? Northern Italians in turn are lighter than northern Greeks!....Cutting off 2 inches on one end of a rug and sewing it on to the other end would not make it longer. Just because central Italians are darker than central greeks that doesn't mean all of Italy is now fucking darker! :bored: Y'all have equal amount of dark and light. Don't include and compare regions. Be fair and compare the whole nations!

What then? it is information. This is fucking wrong. I compared the AVERAGE of Italy, that is, I considered central Italy, Rome as a pure average. This means that the average Italy is light years darker than the Greek average. So since average is like this, saying we have the same dark and light types is totally wrong. Although Northern Italy exists, the AVERAGE is VERY different, different enough that dark types are MUCH MUCH more frequent in Italy than in Greece. Quite simply, take one hundred Italians of all regional origins and take one hundred Greeks from all regions, the dark types will be MUCH more frequent in the Italian group because central and southern Italy is so obviously different that it will greatly outgrow the comparison between the groups.
How can you think that these guys (Greeks from Athens) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehQ57mOl2J0 are not distinguished from these guys from central Italy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ffz8Zdsc7I by frequency of dark types?


Ps I made a lot of comparisons and the difference you see comparing the two videos is constantly repeated, it is not due to the selection or the randomness of the people shot.

[manu15151513]

I said that here in Greece i have seen few Italians, and the ones here they are lighter then Greeks, But I have also been to Italy. I havent been too all of Greece and to all of Italy, i said the observation from my personal experions is that the Greeks are darker

I understand, but I have seen a lot of Greeks and instead I have seen the exact opposite difference in very evident, so it is rather curious and strange that you have noticed the opposite

[MandM]

I understand, but I have seen a lot of Greeks and instead I have seen the exact opposite difference in very evident, so it is rather curious and strange that you have noticed the opposite

Indeed that is interesting

[Odelia]

Stop being ashamed of dark people, Odelia! dark people are beautiful, men are handsome and blablablabla :lol:
I love dark as you know me, but fair is fair and truth is truth. As much as there are dark and light regions in Iberia or Greece, there are light and dark regions in Italia. We are all equally dark and light! That's my point. Read my post about the rug thing! :thumb001:

[Cristiano viejo]

I love dark as you know me, but fair is fair and truth is truth. As much as there are dark and light regions in Iberia or Greece, there are light and dark regions in Italia. We are all equally dark and light! That's my point. Read my post about the rug thing! :thumb001:

All the time claiming Spaniards should not complain about their dark specimens "because dark men are handsome and :blah:"... and when they say the same about Italians you jump like a monkey claiming there are light Italians :lol:

Your double standards killed me, sorry :laugh2:

[Autrigón]

Who are the lightest europeans?

Who are the most slavs?

Who are the most nordics?

Impossible to ask that kind of question dude...

[Russki]

Who are the lightest europeans?


A tie between Eastern Norwegians and Northern Estonians.





Who are the most slavs?


Poles and Ukrainians.





Who are the most nordics?

Impossible to ask that kind of question dude...


Lowlands of South-Eastern Norway and the Southern Swedish plain is a refugee of the classic Nordic race.

[Gallop]

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi5FUaQ-t8XA20OALW_OdwTSyw8djHMf64MOc6aC8g-mmvn5DX3Hfb8iU0_OD1F41gkQz1sut2KhPOkVcSBOTrO2Ncuwm QZtOBHMm8UAdTEXGdPv0nUV2biIsokWGS1U-1r5tVpFS4YPW4HNhXj9zETCmBvcXvm8Kh2FURS8VRr2ves5lQ9 xLl3znNo/s6342/SPANIARDScomposite.jpg

[Frietje]

I found this although it is not clear if they included immigrants (of European origin) or only selected natives.
SLC45A2 gene and specially its 374F allele is one of the most important factors coding for light skin in Europeans.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John-Novembre/publication/264245693/figure/fig3/AS:295962284183554@1447574316004/Maps-showing-the-frequency-distribution-of-individual-genetic-variants-in-European.png
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Han-Rhee/publication/301774569/figure/tbl2/AS:391411007541271@1470331064826/Frequency-of-the-374F-allele-of-the-SLC45A2-gene-in-10-cities-across-Europe-and-Africa.png

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I found this although it is not clear if they included immigrants (of European origin) or only selected natives.
SLC45A2 gene and specially its 374F allele is one of the most important factors coding for light skin in Europeans.
[IMG]https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John-Novembre/publication/264245693/figure/fig3/AS:295962284183554@1447574316004/Maps-showing-the-frequency-distribution-of-individ
[IMG]https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Han-Rhee/publication/301774569/figure/tbl2/AS:391411007541271@1470331064826/Frequency-of-the-374F-allele-of-the-SLC45A2-gene-in-10-cities-across-Eur

They're obviously not going to include Europeans of other ethnic origins. That would defeat the purpose of the study. We're dealing with professionals and not incompetent fools who think making a PCA plot is a great achievement, for example.

[Avgvstvs]

The one who has a lot of problems is you, dark dwarf, you open a thread and try to impose answers because you don't like other people's comments. You are the classic case of someone who does not accept himself, and then desperately swarthify others. I have been to Greece many times. I have also been to Umbria, and in Umbria they were definitely less swarthy than in mainland Greece. The swarthiest area in central Italy is definitely Lazio, which is also the one closest to southern Italy.I second this.

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[Septentrion]

I found this although it is not clear if they included immigrants (of European origin) or only selected natives.
SLC45A2 gene and specially its 374F allele is one of the most important factors coding for light skin in Europeans.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John-Novembre/publication/264245693/figure/fig3/AS:295962284183554@1447574316004/Maps-showing-the-frequency-distribution-of-individual-genetic-variants-in-European.png
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Han-Rhee/publication/301774569/figure/tbl2/AS:391411007541271@1470331064826/Frequency-of-the-374F-allele-of-the-SLC45A2-gene-in-10-cities-across-Europe-and-Africa.png

Obviously Danish and Belgian people would be fairer-skinned than Southern Europeans and non-Europeans.

[Odelia]

All the time claiming Spaniards should not complain about their dark specimens "because dark men are handsome and :blah:"... and when they say the same about Italians you jump like a monkey claiming there are light Italians :lol:

Your double standards killed me, sorry :laugh2:
Your english is either crap (which I expect) or you're being a deliberate asshole. Read my post again, I said every southern European corner has equally dark and light people, and I'm sure you know that I'm the first one here to point out the Italian darkies. Jesus christ man! I think your inner pale ginger fetish is coming out of ya again, cristiano! :bored:

[Frietje]

They're obviously not going to include Europeans of other ethnic origins. That would defeat the purpose of the study. We're dealing with professionals and not incompetent fools who think making a PCA plot is a great achievement, for example.

You're obviously clueless because the majority of this type of population genetics articles centered on pigmentation do not do their own sampling but instead gather them from other studies, normally about skin cancer and other health-related fields, which evidently do not discriminate based on the ethnic origins of the patients.

I've seen other pigmentation studies usually posted here and the authors warned that some samples had foreign origins, but in this case the ones I link to were behind a paywall so I could not make sure they only used natives, hence my remark. Getting angry over my cautiousness is stupid.

From the pov of a high school dropout all researchers may seem professional but I've seen their world from the inside and believe me, many are not and neither their working conditions.
Only an uneducated fool would be so impacted by a PCA, indeed, so try to not get nervous when you see one.

[Frietje]

Obviously Danish and Belgian people would be fairer-skinned than Southern Europeans and non-Europeans.

Yes, it's obvious. But the author of the thread asked a question and I answered with the bibliography available.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

You're obviously clueless because the majority of this type of population genetics articles centered on pigmentation do not do their own sampling but instead gather them from other studies, normally about skin cancer and other health-related fields, which evidently do not discriminate based on the ethnic origins of the patients.

I've seen other pigmentation studies usually posted here and the authors warned that some samples had foreign origins, but in this case the ones I link to were behind a paywall so I could not make sure they only used natives, hence my remark. Getting angry over my cautiousness is stupid.

From the pov of a high school dropout all researchers may seem professional but I've seen their world from the inside and believe me, many are not and neither their working conditions.


Waarom zo boos? Dat is een lange tirade. Waar in Nederland kom jij vandaan?


Only an uneducated fool would be so impacted by a PCA, indeed, so try to not get nervous when you see one.

Why would you get upset over that? I was just being rather random after a low IQ poster who has been banned 100 times made a childish attempt at one. How does that criticism of another poster affect a new poster like yourself?

[Cristiano viejo]

Your english is either crap (which I expect) or you're being a deliberate asshole. Read my post again, I said every southern European corner has equally dark and light people, and I'm sure you know that I'm the first one here to point out the Italian darkies. Jesus christ man! I think your inner pale ginger fetish is coming out of ya again, cristiano! :bored:
You jumped like a monkey when they named Italians being dark, while you accuse of hysteria when they name Spaniards.

It has a name: DOUBLE STANDARD :thumb001:

[Frietje]

Waarom zo boos? Dat is een lange tirade. Waar in Nederland kom jij vandaan?



Why would you get upset over that? I was just being rather random after a low IQ poster who has been banned 100 times made a childish attempt at one. How does that criticism of another poster affect a new poster like yourself?

You're clearly very unintelligent.
What happened here is that I responded to the thread with data and for some reason you got upset when I pointed out that we can't be 100% sure that all the samples used in the studies are natives, then I educated you about how this type of studies are done and you got upset again because I left you looking like the uneducated fool you are.
You seem like a person who is angry at life and take it out on the rest. I recommend you spending less time here and more studying to finally earn your high school diploma.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

You're clearly very unintelligent.

Funny you would say that because I'm qualified to test someone's IQs. I have developed my own test: it's very unique. You see, I watch banned posters make 100s of accounts and note how long it takes them to figure out the best way to avoid another ban. Sometimes the person is so stupid that I repeatedly hint to them on how to avoid a ban. Even then it takes a while for them to figure it out.

I then assess their IQ based on how long it takes them to figure it out and whether they needed my help and how long it takes them after receiving my help. For example, the person in question that you got upset over that I mocked has an IQ in the low 90s because he's been at it for months and couldn't figure it out without help and even then struggled. However, I don't expect him to return because school will be in session and he's a student working on earning a low IQ degree that will make him unemployable.



What happened here is that I responded to the thread with data and for some reason you got upset when I pointed out that we can't be 100% sure that all the samples used in the studies are natives, then I educated you about how this type of studies are done and you got upset again because I left you looking like the uneducated fool you are.

What you did was tell me something and I'm supposed to accept that you are accurate. The truth is you wanted to appear intelligent - typical of low IQ people - and so you post a study that doesn't even look at many ethnic groups. We all know southern Europeans are swarthy on average and so the intelligent thing to do is compare between southenr European ethnic groups. The study only shows Spaniards (Andalusians & Catalans).

Stupidity is very upsetting to me.



You seem like a person who is angry at life and take it out on the rest. I recommend you spending less time here and more studying to finally earn your high school diploma.

If I was angry I'd make a dozen accounts a day in an attempt to post at an internet forum where I'm banned hoping I can sneak by and - this makes me laugh so hard - threaten the admin with a lawsuit over ethnic discrimination.

How can I be angry if I'm so quick to laugh?

[Frietje]

Funny you would say that because I'm qualified to test someone's IQs. I have developed my own test: it's very unique. You see, I watch banned posters make 100s of accounts and note how long it takes them to figure out the best way to avoid another ban. Sometimes the person is so stupid that I repeatedly hint to them on how to avoid a ban. Even then it takes a while for them to figure it out.

I then assess their IQ based on how long it takes them to figure it out and whether they needed my help and how long it takes them after receiving my help. For example, the person in question that you got upset over that I mocked has an IQ in the low 90s because he's been at it for months and couldn't figure it out without help. However, I don't expect him to return because school will be in session and he's a student working on a low IQ degree that will make him unemployable.




What you did was tell me something and I'm supposed to accept that you are accurate. The truth is you wanted to appear intelligent - typical of low IQ people - and so you post a study that doesn't even look at many ethnic groups. We all know southern Europeans are swarthy on average and so the intelligent thing to do is compare between southenr European ethnic groups. The study only shows Spaniards (Andalusians & Catalans).

Stupidity is very upsetting to me.




If I was angry I'd make a dozen accounts a day in an attempt to post at an internet forum where I'm banned hoping I can sneak by and - this makes me laugh so hard - threaten the admin with a lawsuit over ethnic discrimination.

How can I be angry if I'm so quick to laugh?

You're not qualified for anything, that's why you didn't finish high school and flip burgers for a living. Otherwise what are you doing here getting angry over not knowing that the majority of population genetics studies reuse samples from other studies?

You're ignorant, unintelligent and also blind because you didn't see that I linked to one picture where Italians and Greeks were also tested.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John-Novembre/publication/264245693/figure/fig3/AS:295962284183554@1447574316004/Maps-showing-the-frequency-distribution-of-individual-genetic-variants-in-European.png

If you're trying to appear as the most unhinged retard in The Apricity you've succeeded, congratulations.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

You're not qualified for anything, that's why you didn't finish high school and flip burgers for a living. Otherwise what are you doing here getting angry over not knowing that the majority of population genetics studies reuse samples from other studies?

You're ignorant, unintelligent and also blind because you didn't see that I linked to one picture where Italians and Greeks were also tested.


If you're trying to appear as the most unhinged retard in The Apricity you've succeeded, congratulations.

Thank you. As expected you gave yourself away without question.

How long will it take you to figure this out?

Since you will be back because you're insane.


You're not qualified for anything, that's why you didn't finish high school and flip burgers for a living. Otherwise what are you doing here getting angry over not knowing that the majority of population genetics studies reuse samples from other studies?

I'm here to make you angry so that you can give yourself away. You're so stupid and insane that I can tell you how I get you to give yourself away and it won't matter because you won't be able to control yourself.



You're ignorant, unintelligent and also blind because you didn't see that I linked to one picture where Italians and Greeks were also tested.

And it's impossible to compare the pie charts between southern Europeans because they're so similar to each other and so it's worthless for this game of autism people play. How it was broken down in the second chart was obviously clearer. However, this wasn't really about the OP topic. You posted the study for a specific reason (compare Catalans with Andalusians), which is fine but also predictable. If you didn't have to hide who you were you would have been more open about it or maybe not; you are, after all, a dishonest person. You don't think twice about lying (and hence why any chance you had of ever posting here was gone when you decided to lie about 'personal info' because you were embarrassed that people now knew you're such a loser and dumb enough to threaten a lawsuit just because you couldn't post on a forum.)

It's also retarded in that there are many genes involved.



If you're trying to appear as the most unhinged retard in The Apricity you've succeeded, congratulations.

The irony. I never threatened anyone online with a lawsuit just because they didn't allow me to post at their forum and nor would I ever make 100s of accounts.

Can't wait to see you back. I enjoy this little game of cat and mouse even though I need to make it more difficult for myself for it to be interesting because you're dumb as fuck.

[Septentrion]

Greeks and Italians seem to have higher ratios of black hair than Iberians!!! Something I never knew before.

[Gallop]

Greeks and Italians seem to have higher ratios of black hair than Iberians!!! Something I never knew before.

People think the opposite but we hardly remember the Italians or Greeks because they are far away, Italy is even more noticeable in Spain because of the pizzas and all that; although after all a pizza is nothing more than a Greek baked salad that is eaten with bread. We also get the Atlantic and Cantabrian airs, we are not only thinking about the Mediterranean and we feel closer to France and Portugal.

It is very difficult to find Iberians with black hair, in my life I have seen two or three, it is much more common in Portugal and I would say that even in France.

[Cristiano viejo]

It is very difficult to find Iberians with black hair, in my life I have seen two or three, it is much more common in Portugal and I would say that even in France.

I got bored of seeing people denying black hair among Europeans. It is super common

https://hips.hearstapps.com/es.h-cdn.co/fotoes/images/cinefilia/colin-farrell-peliculas/133957541-1-esl-ES/Colin-Farrell-en-10-peliculas.jpg

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/pierce-brosnan-26912158.jpg

https://img.europapress.es/fotoweb/fotonoticia_20200610140804_1200.jpg

[Tongio]

On a country level average, its a close tie beetwen Portugal and Greece , i dont even think its relevant to try to find the winner because the diference is almost negligible, with Portugal having slightly more light eyes, not sure who have darker skin and hair and how we would measure this mainly because of skin colour fluctuation.

[Septentrion]

I got bored of seeing people denying black hair among Europeans. It is super common

https://hips.hearstapps.com/es.h-cdn.co/fotoes/images/cinefilia/colin-farrell-peliculas/133957541-1-esl-ES/Colin-Farrell-en-10-peliculas.jpg

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/pierce-brosnan-26912158.jpg

https://img.europapress.es/fotoweb/fotonoticia_20200610140804_1200.jpg

It is not common at all. Unless you include dark brown.

Pierce Brosnan natural hair color is brown not black.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/die-hard-scenario/images/3/3b/DHS-_Pierce_Brosnon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141008011249

[Cristiano viejo]

On a country level average, its a close tie beetwen Portugal and Greece , i dont even think its relevant to try to find the winner because the diference is almost negligible, with Portugal having slightly more light eyes, not sure who have darker skin and hair and how we would measure this mainly because of skin colour fluctuation.
Problem is that people know very well countries like Spain, Greece, Italy or Portugal, you know, football, tv stars, famous people in general, etc etc,... but usually people have no idea about countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Macedonia or Serbia.

Having been in both Romania and Portugal definitively the first is not lighter.




Pierce Brosnan natural hair color is brown not black.


Deceive yourself but dont try with me.

[Septentrion]

His hair color is naturally brown ( dark brown) which he darkens to black.
The eye color is gray-blue.
https://www.onthisday.com/images/people/pierce-brosnan-medium.jpg

Colin Farrell hair color is naturally brown too and his eye color is greenish-brown.
https://hips.hearstapps.com/es.h-cdn.co/fotoes/images/cinefilia/colin-farrell-peliculas/133957541-1-esl-ES/Colin-Farrell-en-10-peliculas.jpg

[Gallop]

I got bored of seeing people denying black hair among Europeans. It is super common

https://hips.hearstapps.com/es.h-cdn.co/fotoes/images/cinefilia/colin-farrell-peliculas/133957541-1-esl-ES/Colin-Farrell-en-10-peliculas.jpg

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/pierce-brosnan-26912158.jpg

https://img.europapress.es/fotoweb/fotonoticia_20200610140804_1200.jpg



You confuse dark brown with black.

[Odelia]

People think the opposite but we hardly remember the Italians or Greeks because they are far away, Italy is even more noticeable in Spain because of the pizzas and all that; although after all a pizza is nothing more than a Greek baked salad that is eaten with bread. We also get the Atlantic and Cantabrian airs, we are not only thinking about the Mediterranean and we feel closer to France and Portugal.

It is very difficult to find Iberians with black hair, in my life I have seen two or three, it is much more common in Portugal and I would say that even in France.
Oh shut up. Iberians have a lot of black haired people. And your profile picture...what a loser...you chose the most atlantid looking Spaniard to showcase how light you people are! You're an embarrassment! I hope you enjoy foaming over gingers. It's pretty sad that it's the Spaniards here that are the most Hiter/nazi complexed people in here! :picard1:

[Septentrion]

Excluding micronations such as cyprus and mortar


Is it possible there isn't a non-troll among you who has traveled to Europe and can answer the question seriously?

Albania
Bosnia
Bulgaria
Greece
Italy
Macedonia
Malta
Portugal
Romania
Serbia
Spain

[Gallop]

Oh shut up. Iberians have a lot of black haired people. And your profile picture...what a loser...you chose the most atlantid looking Spaniard to showcase how light you people are! You're an embarrassment! I hope you enjoy foaming over gingers. It's pretty sad that it's the Spaniards here that are the most Hiter/nazi complexed people in here! :picard1:

I don't shut up even under water. You have no shame, I am an honest person.. No honey, black hair (not to be confused with dark brown) is not easy to find in Spain, maybe in the province of Zamora.

You are totally wrong, I am not for showing lightness, I am more attracted to hair or morphology, structure e.t.c. in Europeans than skin tone.

My avatar is my maternal grandfatherl, besides in the original photo you can see that it has wet effect grease and you know hehehe in old photos all Spaniards with dark brown hair will look black.

My dear I am Spanish and a few decades ago it became fashionable in Spain to dye your hair black and it still shocks me.

I am only interested in the truth and nothing but the truth, there is no other interest since I consider that lying is a waste of time and you are wasting your time in this aspect. :D


I am sending you this postcard from Spain, which I know you will love.


With much love to my Italian friend Odelia
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmuDF4P4DY_LU8g3QevsonVZUoPvviZfF7sOr_7Mj2SD BaRJZT98TtsraNBplU1_VxOEdHkOV7_l2FnRtpej71_d4cQFzA qxgNPlL1rmh8lFXcAyH2aWVk-V_Gq_sun62JOEYdkMopFE-gk7NIjV51alfOseGHhrwNJAeoO4cF07ldNfYQnYrVg59h/s2344/spaniardwomen2.jpeg


Come on honey say now that I have a complex blah blah blah blah blah

[Western Citizen]

I don't shut up even under water. You have no shame, I am an honest person.. No honey, black hair (not to be confused with dark brown) is not easy to find in Spain, maybe in the province of Zamora.

You are totally wrong, I am not for showing lightness, I am more attracted to hair or morphology, structure e.t.c. in Europeans than skin tone.

My avatar is my maternal grandfatherl, besides in the original photo you can see that it has wet effect grease and you know hehehe in old photos all Spaniards with dark brown hair will look black.

My dear I am Spanish and a few decades ago it became fashionable in Spain to dye your hair black and it still shocks me.

I am only interested in the truth and nothing but the truth, there is no other interest since I consider that lying is a waste of time and you are wasting your time in this aspect. :D


I am sending you this postcard from Spain, which I know you will love.


With much love to my Italian friend Odelia
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmuDF4P4DY_LU8g3QevsonVZUoPvviZfF7sOr_7Mj2SD BaRJZT98TtsraNBplU1_VxOEdHkOV7_l2FnRtpej71_d4cQFzA qxgNPlL1rmh8lFXcAyH2aWVk-V_Gq_sun62JOEYdkMopFE-gk7NIjV51alfOseGHhrwNJAeoO4cF07ldNfYQnYrVg59h/s2344/spaniardwomen2.jpeg


Come on honey say now that I have a complex blah blah blah blah blah

If you really think that your postcard reflects the average reality of Spain, you have a serious problem. Everyone knows that southern european average hair colour is the dark shade of brown, this includes Spain. Genetically you are more western shifted that the rest but this shouldn't mean anything.

[Roy]

What is the data for Maltese?

[Gallop]

If you really think that your postcard reflects the average reality of Spain, you have a serious problem. Everyone knows that southern european average hair colour is the dark shade of brown,

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmuDF4P4DY_LU8g3QevsonVZUoPvviZfF7sOr_7Mj2SD BaRJZT98TtsraNBplU1_VxOEdHkOV7_l2FnRtpej71_d4cQFzA qxgNPlL1rmh8lFXcAyH2aWVk-V_Gq_sun62JOEYdkMopFE-gk7NIjV51alfOseGHhrwNJAeoO4cF07ldNfYQnYrVg59h/s2344/spaniardwomen2.jpeg
7 Andalusian women, 3 Valencian women and 1 Andalusian% Valencian woman

Dark brown? you're crazy

this includes Spain. Genetically you are more western shifted that the rest but this shouldn't mean anything.

How can it mean nothing?


How dare you, what continent are you from, out of curiosity?

[Western Citizen]

How dare you, what continent are you from, out of curiosity?

What does that have to do with your postcard and all you said before? I'm american.

[Spoke]

....

[Spoke]

The darkest and least white Europeans are

1. Portugal
2. Greece
3. Spain
4. Albania
5. Bulgaria
6. Romania
7. Serbia
8. Croatia

They all had dark non-Europeans occupying them for many years so it makes sense

[Septentrion]

The darkest and least white Europeans are

1. Portugal
2. Greece
3. Spain
4. Albania
5. Bulgaria
6. Romania
7. Serbia
8. Croatia

They all had dark non-Europeans occupying them for many years so it makes sense

Ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! Hey, please chill! They are Europeans through and through.

[Odelia]

I don't shut up even under water. You have no shame, I am an honest person.. No honey, black hair (not to be confused with dark brown) is not easy to find in Spain, maybe in the province of Zamora.

You are totally wrong, I am not for showing lightness, I am more attracted to hair or morphology, structure e.t.c. in Europeans than skin tone.

My avatar is my maternal grandfatherl, besides in the original photo you can see that it has wet effect grease and you know hehehe in old photos all Spaniards with dark brown hair will look black.

My dear I am Spanish and a few decades ago it became fashionable in Spain to dye your hair black and it still shocks me.

I am only interested in the truth and nothing but the truth, there is no other interest since I consider that lying is a waste of time and you are wasting your time in this aspect. :D


I am sending you this postcard from Spain, which I know you will love.


With much love to my Italian friend Odelia
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmuDF4P4DY_LU8g3QevsonVZUoPvviZfF7sOr_7Mj2SD BaRJZT98TtsraNBplU1_VxOEdHkOV7_l2FnRtpej71_d4cQFzA qxgNPlL1rmh8lFXcAyH2aWVk-V_Gq_sun62JOEYdkMopFE-gk7NIjV51alfOseGHhrwNJAeoO4cF07ldNfYQnYrVg59h/s2344/spaniardwomen2.jpeg


Come on honey say now that I have a complex blah blah blah blah blah
I pity people like you, seriously! Who hurt you!? You will never look like Germans and Dutch on average, NEVER. Your photos are cherrypicked. You just fucking handpicked the atlantid looking Spaniards. Shame on you. You're just as fucking ridiculous as self hating blacks and self hating fat emo whites! :picard1: SHAME! Here are your Nordic spannies in a crowd, most look Med...with the odd ginger chick in the middle:

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120921010826-spain-austerity-protest-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

Who said your grandfather is dark? I said you chose his photo because he looks like the MOST BRITISH! If your grandfather looked like Antonio Banderas you wouldn't have fucking boasted his photo here! :bored: Post a pic of your paternal grandpa. Oh wait, he's probably dark! So you're shocked people dye their hair black, but not blonde!? You're a self hating joke. :rolleyes2:

[Western Citizen]

I pity people like you, seriously! Who hurt you!? You will never look like Germans and Dutch on average, NEVER. Your photos are cherrypicked. You just fucking handpicked the atlantid looking Spaniards. Shame on you. You're just as fucking ridiculous as self hating blacks and self hating fat emo whites! :picard1: SHAME! Here are your Nordic spannies in a crowd, most look Med...with the odd ginger chick in the middle:

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120921010826-spain-austerity-protest-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

Who said your grandfather is dark? I said you chose his photo because he looks like the MOST BRITISH! If your grandfather looked like Antonio Banderas you wouldn't have fucking boasted his photo here! :bored: Post a pic of your paternal grandpa. Oh wait, he's probably dark! So you're shocked people dye their hair black, but not blonde!? You're a self hating joke. :rolleyes2:

Are you truly saying the old guy in his avatar looks british? Not to me. Regular southern european.

[Odelia]

Are you truly saying the old guy in his avatar looks british? Not to me. Regular southern european.
Er he looks like a typical white American mutt, a mixture of English, Irish, French and Italian. Regular southern european looking peeps are those in my Spanish crowd pic. Hes too attractive to look like a typical brit I give you that.

[Western Citizen]

Er he looks like a typical white American mutt, a mixture of English, Irish, French and Italian. Regular southern european looking peeps are those in my Spanish crowd pic. Hes too attractive to look like a typical brit I give you that.

He doesn't look like a typical white american to me, maybe as an italian-american from New Jersey.

[Odelia]

He doesn't look like a typical white american to me, maybe as an italian-american from New Jersey.
It depends on his colouring. Photo is in BW and you can hardly tell his true tones & colour! Many golden era American actors looked like him! If he's light haired then he's definitely not a typical Italian guy. If he's all round dark haired/eyed then he can be a normal Italian for sure!

[Western Citizen]

It depends on his colouring. Photo is in BW and you can hardly tell his true tones & colour! Many golden era American actors looked like him! If he's light haired then he's definitely not a typical Italian guy. If he's all round dark haired/eyed then he can be a normal Italian for sure!

The man looks like a typical wog, let's be honest here. Not saying he looks bad or anything, but I am saying that he looks basically med. Not like one of his postcard, that is for sure.

[Cristiano viejo]

Albania
Bosnia
Bulgaria
Greece
Italy
Macedonia
Malta
Portugal
Romania
Serbia
Spain
Dont stop there, continue, man, continue:

France
Belgium


If you really think that your postcard reflects the average reality of Spain, you have a serious problem
Who has a serious problem is you, thinking he meant such thing. That postcard would not reflect the average reality not even in Finland.


I pity people like you, seriously! Who hurt you!? You will never look like Germans and Dutch on average, NEVER. Your photos are cherrypicked. You just fucking handpicked the atlantid looking Spaniards. Shame on you. You're just as fucking ridiculous as self hating blacks and self hating fat emo whites! :picard1: SHAME!

But when people claim Italians are dark then you jump like a monkey claiming there are light people in Italy, remember? :laugh:

And who said we look like Germans and Dutch? :rolleyes:


Who said your grandfather is dark? I said you chose his photo because he looks like the MOST BRITISH!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :rofl:

[Western Citizen]

Dont stop there, continue, man, continue:

France
Belgium


Who has a serious problem is you, thinking he meant such thing. That postcard would not reflect the average reality not even in Finland.


But when people claim Italians are dark then you jump like a monkey claiming there are light people in Italy, remember? :laugh:

And who said we look like Germans and Dutch? :rolleyes:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :rofl:

What is the purpose of a pure cherrypicked collage like that? Explain it to me. Also, that postcard is very near the reality of a country like Finland and a very far one for a southern european county like Spain.

[Cristiano viejo]

What is the purpose of a pure cherrypicked collage like that? Explain it to me. Also, that postcard is very near the reality of a country like Finland and a very far one for a southern european county like Spain.

ok these Spaniards are really Finnish now, because you say so :rolleyes:

The purpose is ULTRA CLEAR. Every time you foreigner self declared experts about Spain talk about our country is to say the same: we are dark and it is not possible in your tiny minds there are TONS of light Spaniards :rolleyes:

I have bad news for you, there are more, muuuch more light people in Southern Europe than in the North, numerically of course. So no idea why you "experts" wonder so much when we post supposedly invisible and non existent people for you (blondes and so) :rolleyes:

[Western Citizen]

ok these Spaniards are really Finnish now, because you say so :rolleyes:

The purpose is ULTRA CLEAR. Every time you foreigner self declared experts about Spain talk about our country is to say the same: we are dark and it is not possible in your tiny minds there are TONS of light Spaniards :rolleyes:

I have bad news for you, there are more, muuuch more light people in Southern Europe than in the North, numerically of course. So no idea why you "experts" wonder so much when we post supposedly invisible and non existent people for you (blondes and so) :rolleyes:

Bro I don't give a fuck if you people are darker or not, it's just the reality that your people is dark-brown haired in average. You can make all the collages of blonde haired people in your country to try to convince us a different reality, like I said, I don't really give a fuck.

[Cristiano viejo]

it's just the reality that your people is dark-brown haired in average. .

who said the opposite????????

[Renekton]

Pontians.

[manu15151513]

On a country level average, its a close tie beetwen Portugal and Greece , i dont even think its relevant to try to find the winner because the diference is almost negligible, with Portugal having slightly more light eyes, not sure who have darker skin and hair and how we would measure this mainly because of skin colour fluctuation.

I have seen the Greeks and they are very pale. I am Italian. I don't know why the heck you paint them as dark who looked a lot paler than us Italians. I don't know why something so distorted is so well established in perception, probably only in geography.

[manu15151513]

The darkest and least white Europeans are

1. Portugal
2. Greece
3. Spain
4. Albania
5. Bulgaria
6. Romania
7. Serbia
8. Croatia

They all had dark non-Europeans occupying them for many years so it makes sense




lol you are delirious 100%

[manu15151513]

Albania
Bosnia
Bulgaria
Greece
Italy
Macedonia
Malta
Portugal
Romania
Serbia
Spain

I think you traveled with your ass

[Tongio]

I have seen the Greeks and they are very pale. I am Italian. I don't know why the heck you paint them as dark who looked a lot paler than us Italians. I don't know why something so distorted is so well established in perception, probably only in geography.

Ok you south italians are the darkest of the dark, happy now? I am talking about country averages here. North italy is quite fair on average and is the most populated part of Italy.Portugal and Greece lack such statiscal peculiarity.

[manu15151513]

Ok you south italians are the darkest of the dark, happy now? I am talking about country averages here. North italy is quite fair on average and is the most populated part of Italy.Portugal and Greece lack such statiscal peculiarity.

I am central Italian and central Italians are MUCH darker than the Greeks. Probably from the height of your superficiality you consider the dark Greeks only for their geography, not because you have never seen their faces. I'm talking about national averages too. Central and southern Italy are so obviously darker than the Greeks that they alter the total national average. Northern Italy has many more foreigners than the rest of Italy, and also has many southerners, in the end ethnically northern Italians are only 25% of ethnic Italians. Southern Italians 50% or more.

[capocannoniere]

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[TheForeigner]

I am central Italian and central Italians are MUCH darker than the Greeks. Probably from the height of your superficiality you consider the dark Greeks only for their geography, not because you have never seen their faces. I'm talking about national averages too. Central and southern Italy are so obviously darker than the Greeks that they alter the total national average. Northern Italy has many more foreigners than the rest of Italy, and also has many southerners, in the end ethnically northern Italians are only 25% of ethnic Italians. Southern Italians 50% or more.

If that is you in the photo, you are darker than the average Italian. You are as dark as a MENA. Is this why you darkwash Italians? I've seen Italians from Liguria and Tuscany and they are not darker than Romanians on average. Only few individuals here and there are as dark as you. You probably think that Italians should be darker than Greeks, because Greeks don't have significant and historical admixture from Near East, other than some Anatolian from displaced Anatolian Greeks. But Ashkenazi Jews are like South and Central Italians largely Levantine and the rest European(mostly Italian) and they're not that dark usually either.
A good comparison would be to post pics of the national football teams we've all seen before and you can see that Italians, Greeks, Iberians, Albanians, Romanians etc. are about equally white skinned on average.

[TheForeigner]

Squadra Azzura
https://static.fanpage.it/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2019/03/fbl-eur-nations-ita-por2-1200x675.jpg

Greek team

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Greece_national_football_team_%282010-11-17%29.jpg

Romanian team

https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/0*V5gB01Um1LxLm76E

[Septentrion]

Dont stop there, continue, man, continue:

France
Belgium


Who has a serious problem is you, thinking he meant such thing. That postcard would not reflect the average reality not even in Finland.


But when people claim Italians are dark then you jump like a monkey claiming there are light people in Italy, remember? :laugh:

And who said we look like Germans and Dutch? :rolleyes:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :rofl:

No. I shall there. I will not include France as a whole, but the very south of France ( the southwest and the Riviera) can be attached to Europe’s darkest region. It isn’t just an increase in dark hair, but a tremendous decrease in blue eyes as well. While the rest of France distances itself from Southern Europe looking a lot more like Western and Central Europe. Belgium is in a «different league», so cool down. 60% of Belgians have blue or light eyes, most of Belgians are light or medium brown-haired, blond hair is common, especially in Flanders nearer the Dutch border where I am from.

[Septentrion]

No province of Belgium falls below 60% for blue and light eyes. In Flanders particularly, no province falls below 60% for blue and light eyes. This is a far-cry from Europe’s darkest region.

[manu15151513]

Squadra Azzura
https://static.fanpage.it/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2019/03/fbl-eur-nations-ita-por2-1200x675.jpg

Greek team

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Greece_national_football_team_%282010-11-17%29.jpg

Romanian team

https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/0*V5gB01Um1LxLm76E

No, I do not obscure anyone, I simply love that the falsehoods on topics that interest me are denied. If you say that Ligurian and Tuscan Italians are no darker than Romanians, you have extremely limited vision from very few samples. However, the Ligurians are a little lighter than the neighboring northern Italians according to studies on biondism and the Tuscans are the clearest central Italians, and there are some areas in northern Tuscany that are the palest in all of Italy ever, but they are anomalies . Yes, I am anomalous for Tuscany and Liguria, this is sure. But I live in the Marche region of central Italy at the same latitude as Tuscany and there are many more types like me. 40% of my Italian friends were dark like me or more, and therefore there are two possibilities: either strangely the darker ones have become my friends or they are not so anomalous, the photo exaggerates my darkness. I believe that the Greeks are less darker quite simply because I have seen them, why would I have to rely on abstract reasoning to believe it? And greece is more cloudy than Italy, so they should have evolved lighter skin, and indeed they are. The risk of getting burned in central Italy tends to be higher than in Greece, in fact.




No lol absolutely not, the Romanians, the Albanians, the Montenegrins, the Macedonians and the Bulgarians, are light years paler than the Italians. Instead of relying on photos of football teams, you should be looking for videos of a typical country town where it looks good.


This is the first random video I found when looking for a random city in romania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyE9SVvtD2A


This is the first random video I found of Albanians from a random citizen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBeGVKCXmeI

Random Greeks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aXEViSHElg



Random Italians, north of Rome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOnPf-zORUQ


As you can see, Italians are light years darker.



I've done this thing many times, so I've seen many more faces than you, obviously the Romanians are very different from the Italians light years, and the Albanians are also very different, and the Greeks are lighter. However, I am darker than the Italian average but not that much.

[TheForeigner]

Well the videos certainly don't show Italians as "light years darker" than Balkaners. At most there is a minor difference in skin color.

[manu15151513]

Well the videos certainly don't show Italians as "light years darker" than Balkaners. At most there is a minor difference in skin color.

Obviously you have turned your attention very superficially to two seconds of those videos (or maybe not at all) and commented like that. Light years so to speak, it's not light at all, it's very big. I have been to croatia and they were light years away from us in skin color. If you watched all people's videos like you would notice a very big difference. The risk of sunburn in Italy is a cross between that of Zagreb, the capital of Croatia in the Balkans and India in the far south, so it makes perfect sense that we are much darker by far.

[manu15151513]

Well the videos certainly don't show Italians as "light years darker" than Balkaners. At most there is a minor difference in skin color.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSkR0yZRdOA&t=3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgv58zuYRlQ&t=1198s


Light years for real

[Zohor]

Poles and Ukrainians.


WTF, da Russian calling Poles and UKRAINIANS most Slav? What happened to you?