Iberian Peninsula PCA (low effort edition)

[Nmiito]

https://i.ibb.co/mSYxR3M/Iberia-PCA.png

Some observations:
- Main cline West/South-Pyrenees due to North African admixture
- Secondary cline Basques-rest due to post Bronze age West Asian-like admixture
- The Canary Islands are far removed in the North African direction while the Balearic Islands cluster with the populations of the Peninsula

[Jingle Bell]

Very interesting graphic! I thought that the Portuguese were closer to the Galicians genetically, due to their shared language and culture, but it seems that they are closer to the people of Extremadura, I think this is the reason why Extremadura is one of my closest populations in Gedmatch

[Nmiito]

Very interesting graphic! I thought that the Portuguese were closer to the Galicians genetically, due to their shared language and culture, but it seems that they are closer to the people of Extremadura, I think this is the reason why Extremadura is one of my closest populations in Gedmatch

Well it is not meant to be 100% precise but I think it makes sense because Portugal spans north to south and Extremadura fits right in the middle so it is more similar to the whole Portuguese population while Galicia represents best the North. Extremadura's original language is very similar to Galaicoportuguese.

[Tongio]

Astúrias loners.

[Nmiito]

Astúrias loners.

Spanish_Asturias is a single sample and produce bad fits overall. Asturias should cluster with the rest of West Iberia, much closer to Galicia than to Cantabria.

Spanish_Soria are two individual samples and also produce bad fits but in this case more or less worked fine.

[Jingle Bell]

Ye makes sense, but my ancestor are from minho, but my closests populations are ever 50% SSA + 50% Murcia or Extremadura, i guess my extra serfadi and moor dna = Extra Anatolian farmer blood, so this are south shifting me maybe

[Friends of Oliver Society]

Very interesting graphic! I thought that the Portuguese were closer to the Galicians genetically, due to their shared language and culture, but it seems that they are closer to the people of Extremadura, I think this is the reason why Extremadura is one of my closest populations in Gedmatch

Because the person who made this doesn't know what he's doing and hence he wrote 'low effort edition.' (I think he might of added it to the title later when it was just too obvious how poor it was).

[Jingle Bell]

Oh I understand, but the graph doesn't look bad for me, I just had this doubt, but in general we can see that people from the western and southern parts of the peninsula are very similar genetically, so I think that the Portuguese being closer to people of extremodura doesn't It seems to be a problem with the graphics itself. In my opinion the person who mades the graph did a good job:thumb001:

[Nmiito]

Because the person who made this doesn't know what he's doing and hence the title to add 'low effort edition.')

Low effort because of the graphics, retard. It's the calculator that puts Portugal closer to Extremadura. Portugal is a big country compared to the cornered Galicia.
What did you expect to happen exactly? Make a genetics related comment for once.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

Low effort because of the graphics, retard. It's the calculator that puts Portugal closer to Extremadura. Portugal is a big country compared to the cornered Galicia.
What did you expect to happen exactly? Make a genetics related comment for once.

It's low effort all around. As soon as I saw Asturias wandering by itself it's obvious a noob is at work.

A comment on genetics for once? You must not know me very well. PCA graphs are for noobs like yourself.

[Nmiito]

Oh I understand, but the graph doesn't look bad for me, I just had this doubt, but in general we can see that people from the western and southern parts of the peninsula are very similar genetically, so I think that the Portuguese being closer to people of extremodura doesn't It seems to be a problem with the graphics itself. In my opinion the person who mades the graph did a good job:thumb001:

Extremadura really is more western than southern.
The West of the Peninsula (including Extremadura) has higher than average Steppe admixture but their high North African, which is very divergent, puts them together with the South (Andalusia and Murcia).

[Nmiito]

Oh I understand, but the graph doesn't look bad for me, I just had this doubt, but in general we can see that people from the western and southern parts of the peninsula are very similar genetically, so I think that the Portuguese being closer to people of extremodura doesn't It seems to be a problem with the graphics itself. In my opinion the person who mades the graph did a good job:thumb001:

Extremadura really is more western than southern.
The West of the Peninsula (including Extremadura) has higher than average Steppe admixture but their high North African, which is very divergent, puts them together with the South (Andalusia and Murcia).

[Friends of Oliver Society]

Oh I understand, but the graph doesn't look bad for me, I just had this doubt, but in general we can see that people from the western and southern parts of the peninsula are very similar genetically, so I think that the Portuguese being closer to people of extremodura doesn't It seems to be a problem with the graphics itself. In my opinion the person who mades the graph did a good job:thumb001:

There is no new revelations here. It's like a child showing his parents 'I made this' and the parents act proud but it's nothing astonishing. There is no insights.

[Nmiito]

It's low effort all around. As soon as I saw Asturias wandering by itself it's obvious a noob is at work.

A comment on genetics for once? You must not know me very well. PCA graphs are for noobs like yourself.

Can't you read, retard? I already explained that Spanish_Asturias is a single individual sample which also happens to be an outlier.

You seem to have problems with my PCA but can't explain which. Maybe you're obsessed with me and don't know how to catch my attention anymore.

[Jingle Bell]

Oh my bad, I'm not very experienced at this so I can make mistakes, so I'm probably close with people of Extremadura and Murcia by my high North African dna, but my steppe is low (Generally 8 - 11%) and i am nearly half portuguese (which is on average 28% Steppe) so I was expected to have something around 14%, but as I have a lot of Jewish and Moorish ancestry, so this steppe dna should have been shortened, thanks for the correction.:icon_ask:

[Friends of Oliver Society]

Can't you read, retard? I already explained that Spanish_Asturias is a single individual sample which also happens to be an outlier.

You seem to have problems with my PCA but can't explain which. Maybe you're obsessed with me and don't know how to catch my attention anymore.

Why would I be obsessed with you? We don't know each other. You're a new member of this forum.

There is no point in doing anything without enough samples but it's irrelevant because you're just repeating what is already known. It literally was a waste of your time but children get very excited when they think they have done something new.

[Nmiito]

Why would I be obsessed with you? We don't know each other. You're a new member of this forum.

There is no point in doing anything without enough samples but it's irrelevant because you're just repeating what is already known. It literally was a waste of your time but children get very excited when they think they have done something new.

You are not obsessed about me nor interested in my PCA but here you are doing your fourth post in my thread. What are you doing here then?

Actions > words and yours don't match.

[Nmiito]

Oh my bad, I'm not very experienced at this so I can make mistakes, so I'm probably close with people of Extremadura and Murcia by my high North African dna, but my steppe is low (Generally 8 - 11%) and i am nearly half portuguese (which is on average 28% Steppe) so I was expected to have something around 14%, but as I have a lot of Jewish and Moorish ancestry, so this steppe dna should have been shortened, thanks for the correction.:icon_ask:

From what I've seen in mixed individuals like yourself sometimes ancestries get shuffled. Eg some ANE getting sucked into Amerindian and in return scoring high MENA to combine the remainder EEF plus SSA.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

You are not obsessed about me nor interested in my PCA but here you are doing your fourth post in my thread. What are you doing here then?

Actions > words and yours don't match.

Thanks, dude. I needed you to reveal yourself further so there was no question you were the Catalanfag.

Always give the stupid enough rope. Thanks for repeating what I always tell you.

Enjoy your time here until the next time.

[Jingle Bell]

Yeah, it's true, but in my case I certainly have a lot of Jewish and Moorish ancestry, but I think 15% MENA (which is what I usually get on calculators) is way too much, I'll buy my real g25 coordinates and hope they be more accurate

[Nmiito]

Thanks, dude. I needed you to reveal yourself further so there was no question you were the Catalanfag.

Always give the stupid enough rope. Thanks for repeating what I always tell you.

Enjoy your time here until the next time.

I'm Romanian you know.
Now do your 6th post stressing how do not care about me or this thread. Loser...

[Friends of Oliver Society]

I'm Romanian you know.

That would be a different mentally I'll banned poster.


Now do your 6th post stressing how do not care about me or this thread. Loser...

I didn't even say anything about caring or not caring about you in this thread. Your mental illness creates different conversations for you to emotionally cope. I am, however, fascinated by your mental illness. Imagine trying every day to make an account here (dozen a day) hoping one gets through and then to try all over again when you're caught. It's a special type of crazy.

You're a winner all the way. How is the lawsuit going, btw? You're certainly not studying law, lolz.

[Xinelobop]

That would be a different mentally I'll banned poster.

I didn't even say anything about caring or not caring about you in this thread. Your mental illness creates different conversations for you to emotionally cope. I am, however, fascinated by your mental illness. Imagine trying every day to make an account here (dozen a day) hoping one gets through and then to try all over again when you're caught. It's a special type of crazy.

You're a winner all the way. How is the lawsuit going, btw? You're certainly not studying law, lolz.

You're a special kind of retard because you deny the evidence in front of everyone's eyes:

Why would I be obsessed with you? We don't know each other. You're a new member of this forum.

There is no point in doing anything without enough samples but it's irrelevant because you're just repeating what is already known. It literally was a waste of your time but children get very excited when they think they have done something new.
You have just proven to be an obsessed stalker who screens the forum 24/7 to search for my posts and now in addition you admitted filtering new admission because you're afraid of random people being me. Not only you got other people banned thinking they were me (now you say that guy was Romanian, and I bet he was not the Romanian user you have in mind, though cried during several posts accusing him of being me) but also prevent other potential members from joining the forum because of your obsession. Imagine dedicating so many hours every single day to me and still denying you're not obsessed. I live in your head rent free.

This is the consequence of you being a 40+ year old loser with no career, partner nor family of your own. Your life revolves around spending all the day in this forum fighting against windmills. Sad!

I see the admin didn't tell you about my last report. Too humiliating I guess. Now he's trying to damage control.