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Jana
09-12-2022, 12:12 AM
All averages were hand-made by me entirely from ancient samples (each average is made from several ancient averages).
I made several versions of the calc:

Standard:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Paleo_Balkanic,0.1250736,0.1541351,0.0214736,-0.0289725,0.0317036,-0.0113537,0.0000921,0.0003724,0.0095636,0.0325282, 0.0038978,0.0074054,-0.0149716,-0.0019149,-0.0129568,-0.0088532,0.0048716,0.0028826,0.0048936,-0.009057,-0.0067342,0.0052338,-0.000704,0.0004862,-0.0035851
Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003

Expanded:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Thracian,0.1229291,0.1594381,0.0086944,-0.0522363,0.0300569,-0.0197858,-0.0014883,-0.0002824,0.0120557,0.0404972,0.0076595,0.0064775,-0.0152542,0.0018809,-0.019785,-0.0139142,0.0063887,0.0051661,0.0057474,-0.0131731,-0.0088317,0.0047606,-0.0022323,-0.0012187,-0.0040449
Illyrian-Pannonian,0.1272181,0.1488321,0.0342527,-0.0057087,0.0333504,-0.0029216,0.0016724,0.0010272,0.0070714,0.0245592, 0.000136,0.0083333,-0.014689,-0.0057107,-0.0061287,-0.0037922,0.0033546,0.0005992,0.0040397,-0.0049409,-0.0046368,0.005707,0.0008244,0.0021912,-0.0031253
Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Sarmatian,0.1117449,0.0532282,0.0336943,0.0690486,-0.0267943,0.0245853,0.002045,0.0001037,-0.02861,-0.0392488,-0.0043743,0.0011002,-0.0002522,-0.0238538,0.0194891,0.0114935,-0.0005505,-0.0010697,-0.0014915,0.0001637,-0.0116124,0.0009816,0.002053,0.0060253,0.0002131
Hunnic,0.0623034,-0.2253944,0.0506864,0.011594,-0.0454768,-0.0115619,0.0067906,0.0088539,-0.0007999,-0.0094761,-0.0239025,0.0016617,0.0059201,-0.011449,0.0075504,0.0112353,0.0019079,0.001298,0. 0008026,0.0065537,-0.0176596,0.0057404,-0.0027201,0.006437,-0.0021869
Pannonian_Avar,0.0600495,-0.2622124,0.0721845,-0.0157319,-0.0572629,-0.0340561,0.0131888,0.0188694,0.0049168,0.0076355,-0.0125681,0.0006913,-0.0028951,0.0011079,0.0001557,-0.0009794,0.000845,-0.0036218,-0.0001288,0.010093,-0.0180092,-0.0034169,-0.0155848,-0.0021811,-0.0004697
Magyar_Elite,0.0864396,-0.1261699,0.07567,0.0510302,-0.0546241,-0.0077802,0.0066908,0.0107116,-0.0067244,-0.0295977,0.0190754,-0.0012256,0.0112286,-0.044588,-0.0056392,-0.000843,0.0006374,-0.0005854,-0.0030902,-0.0045111,-0.008655,0.0134452,0.0072282,0.001291,-0.0039576

Simplified:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Pre-Slavic_Balkans,0.1192914,0.1541692,0.0096238,-0.0372163,0.0255072,-0.0145898,-0.0007404,0.0000222,0.0085899,0.0302236,0.0038711, 0.0064284,-0.0129215,-0.0018036,-0.0120513,-0.006105,0.0059946,0.0007847,0.0036567,-0.0064427,-0.0050942,0.0041968,-0.0014649,0.000291,-0.0024128
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003

JamesBond007
09-12-2022, 12:36 AM
Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.02226182 Germanic_Migration
0.07800035 Slavic_Migration
0.08441303 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.12287725 Sarmatian
0.14610948 Thracian
0.14922316 Roman-Byzantine
0.28424701 Magyar
0.37388610 Hunnic
0.41851559 Pannonian_Avar


Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.2082% / 0.02208230
98.8 Germanic_Migration
1.0 Magyar
0.2 Roman-Byzantine



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zquP-e6rrpg

Selene
09-12-2022, 06:59 AM
Target: Nixie_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.8052% / 0.00805181
65.2 Slavic_Migration
17.4 Roman-Byzantine
8.4 Germanic_Migration
7.6 Paleo_Balkanic
1.4 Steppe_Nomad


Target: Nixie_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7290% / 0.00728968
63.8 Slavic_Migration
13.4 Thracian
10.6 Roman-Byzantine
7.0 Germanic_Migration
5.2 Sarmatian


Target: Nixie_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.8827% / 0.00882677
64.2 Slavic_Migration
27.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
6.4 Germanic_Migration
1.8 Steppe_Nomad

Ylla
09-12-2022, 07:12 AM
Distance: 2.4591% / 0.02459118
52.2 Paleo_Balkanic
30.2 Roman-Byzantine
17.6 Slavic_Migration

Distance: 2.1774% / 0.02177397
55.6 Thracian
24.6 Slavic_Migration
18.2 Roman-Byzantine
1.6 Sarmatian

Distance: 2.4615% / 0.02461537
83.2 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
16.8 Slavic_Migration

oszkar07
09-12-2022, 07:41 AM
Standard:
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.7739% / 0.02773942
43.0 Germanic_Migration
38.6 Slavic_Migration
18.4 Paleo_Balkanic

Expanded:

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.7643% / 0.02764260
38.6 Slavic_Migration
35.8 Germanic_Migration
25.6 Illyrian-Pannonian

Simplified:

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.8541% / 0.02854149
45.2 Germanic_Migration
39.0 Slavic_Migration
15.8 Pre-Slavic_Balkans

noricum
09-12-2022, 07:48 AM
Standard

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04431720 Slavic_Migration
0.04998932 Germanic_Migration
0.09906801 Paleo_Balkanic
0.13776954 Roman-Byzantine
0.30176898 Steppe_Nomad

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.4670% / 0.02467009
57.8 Slavic_Migration
21.8 Paleo_Balkanic
20.4 Germanic_Migration

Expanded

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04431720 Slavic_Migration
0.04998932 Germanic_Migration
0.07255495 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.12808632 Thracian
0.13695019 Sarmatian
0.13776954 Roman-Byzantine
0.29648067 Magyar_Elite
0.38620274 Hunnic
0.42839033 Pannonian_Avar

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.4668% / 0.02466845
57.8 Slavic_Migration
21.0 Germanic_Migration
11.6 Thracian
9.6 Illyrian-Pannonian

Simplified

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04431720 Slavic_Migration
0.04998932 Germanic_Migration
0.11048809 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
0.30176898 Steppe_Nomad

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.5692% / 0.02569235
58.4 Slavic_Migration
22.6 Germanic_Migration
19.0 Pre-Slavic_Balkans

Gallop
09-12-2022, 07:51 AM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.5575% / 0.04557509
83.6 Illyrian-Pannonian
14.2 Germanic_Migration
1.4 Roman-Byzantine
0.8 Hunnic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 4.6148% / 0.04614821
86.6 Illyrian-Pannonian
12.6 Germanic_Migration
0.8 Pannonian_Avar
-----------------

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.2760% / 0.02276049
85.4 Father_scaled
9.0 Illyrian-Pannonian
3.8 Germanic_Migration
1.6 Roman-Byzantine
0.2 Pannonian_Avar


Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.2240% / 0.02224025
86.6 Gallop_scaled
6.8 Slavic_Migration
6.6 Thracian

Jana
09-12-2022, 07:55 AM
Target: Feiichy
Distance: 3.1882% / 0.03188240

58.2 Slavic_Migration
17.4 Germanic_Migration
14.8 Roman-Byzantine
9.4 Paleo_Balkanic
0.2 Steppe_Nomad

Target: Feiichy
Distance: 3.1741% / 0.03174109

57.8 Slavic_Migration
15.4 Illyrian-Pannonian
13.6 Roman-Byzantine
12.8 Germanic_Migration
0.4 Pannonian_Avar

Target: Feiichy
Distance: 3.1992% / 0.03199205

57.4 Slavic_Migration
26.0 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
16.0 Germanic_Migration
0.6 Steppe_Nomad

Dušan
09-12-2022, 07:59 AM
Standard:

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.0125% / 0.01249150
62.0 Slavic_Migration
28.7 Paleo_Balkanic
7.2 Roman-Byzantine
2.1 Steppe_Nomad




Expanded:

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.0113% / 0.01125989
64.1 Slavic_Migration
31.1 Thracian
2.8 Sarmatian
1.8 Magyar_Elite
0.2 Roman-Byzantine




Simplified:

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.0127% / 0.01265219
63.3 Slavic_Migration
34.8 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
1.9 Steppe_Nomad

Impaler
09-12-2022, 09:16 AM
Standard:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 2.9289% / 0.02928879
51.6 Roman-Byzantine
25.8 Slavic_Migration
11.8 Germanic_Migration
10.8 Steppe_Nomad

Expanded:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 2.4604% / 0.02460415
52.2 Roman-Byzantine
23.4 Slavic_Migration
19.6 Sarmatian
3.6 Hunnic
1.2 Germanic_Migration

Simplified:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 3.6701% / 0.03670072
59.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
22.0 Slavic_Migration
12.4 Steppe_Nomad
6.0 Germanic_Migration

Distance to: Impaler
0.06378378 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.08649909 Roman-Byzantine
0.08864499 Germanic_Migration
0.09702476 Thracian
0.10078634 Slavic_Migration
0.12197678 Sarmatian
0.27234091 Magyar_Elite
0.35243869 Hunnic
0.39515392 Pannonian_Avar

Impaler
09-12-2022, 09:34 AM
Standard:

Target: Father
Distance: 4.3354% / 0.04335436
58.8 Roman-Byzantine
21.2 Slavic_Migration
14.8 Steppe_Nomad
5.2 Germanic_Migration

Expanded:

Target: Father
Distance: 3.2320% / 0.03231973
57.6 Roman-Byzantine
34.8 Sarmatian
5.0 Slavic_Migration
2.6 Hunnic

Distance to: Father
0.08223774 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.08841932 Roman-Byzantine
0.10632558 Thracian
0.10712579 Germanic_Migration
0.11876164 Slavic_Migration
0.11927728 Sarmatian
0.26784502 Magyar_Elite
0.34586197 Hunnic
0.38895419 Pannonian_Avar

rothaer
09-12-2022, 06:56 PM
Standard:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.6880% / 0.01688023
54.2 Germanic_Migration
45.6 Slavic_Migration
0.2 Paleo_Balkanic

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 2.1695% / 0.02169548
70.0 Germanic_Migration
30.0 Slavic_Migration

Expanded:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.6875% / 0.01687491
53.8 Germanic_Migration
45.6 Slavic_Migration
0.6 Illyrian-Pannonian

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 2.1695% / 0.02169548
70.0 Germanic_Migration
30.0 Slavic_Migration

Simplified:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.6881% / 0.01688099
54.4 Germanic_Migration
45.6 Slavic_Migration

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 2.1695% / 0.02169548
70.0 Germanic_Migration
30.0 Slavic_Migration

alexmegas777
09-12-2022, 07:48 PM
Expanded
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.2996% / 0.02299613
36.4 Illyrian-Pannonian
36.4 Slavic_Migration
23.0 Roman-Byzantine
3.6 Thracian
0.6 Pannonian_Avar

celticdragongod
09-12-2022, 11:08 PM
Standard:

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02352927 Germanic_Migration
0.06888227 Slavic_Migration
0.11245204 Paleo_Balkanic
0.15053175 Roman-Byzantine
0.29816772 Steppe_Nomad

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.3475% / 0.02347524
98.6 Germanic_Migration
1.4 Paleo_Balkanic

Expanded:

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02352927 Germanic_Migration
0.06888227 Slavic_Migration
0.08191844 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.12983820 Sarmatian
0.14360250 Thracian
0.15053175 Roman-Byzantine
0.29183066 Magyar_Elite
0.38300426 Hunnic
0.42657884 Pannonian_Avar

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.3451% / 0.02345096
97.6 Germanic_Migration
2.4 Illyrian-Pannonian

Simplified:

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02352927 Germanic_Migration
0.06888227 Slavic_Migration
0.12377964 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
0.29816772 Steppe_Nomad

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.3522% / 0.02352204
99.6 Germanic_Migration
0.4 Pre-Slavic_Balkans

calxpal
09-13-2022, 09:33 AM
Target: Cpal_scaled
Distance: 2.4157% / 0.02415678
67.4 Germanic_Migration
18.2 Slavic_Migration
14.2 Roman-Byzantine
0.2 Hunnic

Distance to: Cpal_scaled
0.03360046 Germanic_Migration
0.06253210 Slavic_Migration
0.06716525 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.12691302 Sarmatian
0.12711021 Thracian
0.13030099 Roman-Byzantine
0.28637865 Magyar_Elite
0.37618304 Hunnic
0.41944737 Pannonian_Avar

Karol Klačansky
09-13-2022, 11:44 AM
Standard
Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 2.9417% / 0.02941689
51.0 Slavic_Migration
48.0 Germanic_Migration
1.0 Paleo_Balkanic


Target: KarolFather_scaled
Distance: 2.2669% / 0.02266921
69.4 Slavic_Migration
23.6 Germanic_Migration
7.0 Roman-Byzantine

Expanded

Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 2.9416% / 0.02941630
51.0 Slavic_Migration
47.6 Germanic_Migration
1.4 Illyrian-Pannonian


Target: KarolFather_scaled
Distance: 2.2665% / 0.02266539
69.2 Slavic_Migration
23.6 Germanic_Migration
7.0 Roman-Byzantine
0.2 Magyar_Elite

Simplified

Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 2.9424% / 0.02942431
51.0 Slavic_Migration
48.2 Germanic_Migration
0.8 Pre-Slavic_Balkans

Target: KarolFather_scaled
Distance: 2.3105% / 0.02310468
68.8 Slavic_Migration
23.4 Germanic_Migration
7.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
0.2 Steppe_Nomad

Hektor12
09-13-2022, 11:49 AM
1.8 Magyar_Elite

???...???

Dušan
09-13-2022, 01:01 PM
???...???

https://www.ktk.kz/getimage/newsimgru/64076

ZeDude
09-13-2022, 01:32 PM
Standard

Target: ZeDude_scaled
Distance: 2.6454% / 0.02645392
43.2 Slavic_Migration
37.4 Roman-Byzantine
18.6 Paleo_Balkanic
0.8 Steppe_Nomad

Expanded

Target: ZeDude_scaled
Distance: 2.5184% / 0.02518437
38.6 Slavic_Migration
28.8 Thracian
24.0 Roman-Byzantine
8.6 Sarmatian


Simplified

Target: ZeDude_scaled
Distance: 2.7574% / 0.02757377
60.4 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
38.0 Slavic_Migration
1.6 Steppe_Nomad

Hektor12
09-13-2022, 03:09 PM
https://www.ktk.kz/getimage/newsimgru/64076

Is it possible that you have real ancestry from Huns as a Serb?

Dušan
09-13-2022, 03:19 PM
Is it possible that you have real ancestry from Huns as a Serb?

I got trace 1% Siberian in FTDNA results.
Is it came from Magyars, Bulgars, Avars or Huns, I don't know.

https://i.imgur.com/CpclPDj.png

Gaditanian
09-13-2022, 11:16 PM
Is it possible that you have real ancestry from Huns as a Serb?


Distance: 5.3417% / 0.05341714
49.4 Illyrian-Pannonian
31.4 Roman-Byzantine
15.4 Germanic_Migration
3.8 Hunnic

Is it possible that I have real ancestry from Huns as Spaniard? :rolleyes:

Coastal Elite
09-13-2022, 11:53 PM
Standard

Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 1.5987% / 0.01598706
57.2 Germanic_Migration
32.8 Paleo_Balkanic
6.0 Slavic_Migration
2.2 Roman-Byzantine
1.8 Steppe_Nomad

Distance to: Daco_scaled
0.04274266 Germanic_Migration
0.07437938 Slavic_Migration
0.07462975 Paleo_Balkanic
0.11183724 Roman-Byzantine
0.29296188 Steppe_Nomad

Expanded

Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 1.3605% / 0.01360507
51.8 Illyrian-Pannonian
35.8 Germanic_Migration
8.2 Sarmatian
4.2 Slavic_Migration

Distance to: Daco_scaled
0.04274266 Germanic_Migration
0.04467791 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.07437938 Slavic_Migration
0.10575662 Thracian
0.11183724 Roman-Byzantine
0.12972271 Sarmatian
0.28950566 Magyar_Elite
0.37685131 Hunnic
0.41918629 Pannonian_Avar

Simplified

Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 1.6408% / 0.01640760
59.4 Germanic_Migration
32.2 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
7.0 Slavic_Migration
1.4 Steppe_Nomad

Distance to: Daco_scaled
0.04274266 Germanic_Migration
0.07437938 Slavic_Migration
0.08497105 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
0.29296188 Steppe_Nomad

Hektor12
09-14-2022, 05:05 AM
Is it possible that I have real ancestry from Huns as Spaniard? :rolleyes:

(: You never know. You get some kind of asian component in most calculators, if memory serves. Your y-dna is also very suspicious, rare in Europe but very common within former borders of Ottoman Empire. Probably not Huns, but maybe Hayreddin Barbarossa landed somewhere close to your town back then. (:

paradox
09-14-2022, 12:11 PM
Standard

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.8415% / 0.01841498
62.8 Roman-Byzantine
35.0 Slavic_Migration
2.2 Steppe_Nomad

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.4650% / 0.02465032
45.8 Slavic_Migration
29.6 Roman-Byzantine
23.2 Paleo_Balkanic
1.4 Steppe_Nomad
----------------
Expanded

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.7819% / 0.01781906
62.6 Roman-Byzantine
31.8 Slavic_Migration
5.2 Sarmatian
0.4 Hunnic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.3360% / 0.02336048
43.2 Slavic_Migration
33.8 Thracian
15.2 Roman-Byzantine
7.8 Sarmatian
---------------
Simplified

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 2.8619% / 0.02861924
72.0 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
24.0 Slavic_Migration
4.0 Steppe_Nomad

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.5143% / 0.02514270
55.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
42.6 Slavic_Migration
1.8 Steppe_Nomad

CommonSense
09-15-2022, 02:09 AM
Target: CommonSense_G25_simulated
Distance: 0.9613% / 0.00961287
56.8 Slavic_Migration
22.8 Roman-Byzantine
14.6 Paleo_Balkanic
4.8 Germanic_Migration
1.0 Steppe_Nomad

Target: CommonSense_G25_simulated
Distance: 0.8788% / 0.00878787
55.2 Slavic_Migration
19.2 Thracian
15.6 Roman-Byzantine
5.2 Sarmatian
4.6 Germanic_Migration
0.2 Illyrian-Pannonian

Target: CommonSense_G25_simulated
Distance: 1.0404% / 0.01040402
55.6 Slavic_Migration
40.4 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
2.4 Germanic_Migration
1.6 Steppe_Nomad

Vitez
09-15-2022, 01:32 PM
Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.6264% / 0.01626406
69.0 Slavic_Migration
15.4 Roman-Byzantine
14.0 Paleo_Balkanic
1.4 Steppe_Nomad
0.2 Germanic_Migration

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.6076% / 0.01607630
68.4 Slavic_Migration
14.0 Thracian
12.4 Roman-Byzantine
2.8 Germanic_Migration
1.6 Sarmatian
0.8 Pannonian_Avar

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.6408% / 0.01640821
67.4 Slavic_Migration
30.8 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
1.8 Steppe_Nomad

Varda
09-15-2022, 02:46 PM
Is it possible that you have real ancestry from Huns as a Serb?

Yesterday on the forum of "Serbian DNA project" is published results of Dalmatian Serbs who is Q haplogroup (East Asian branch) https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=6447.msg176444#msg176444
His surname is Radiša (cyr. Радиша), and except him there is only 2 other Serbs with that branch of Q (one from NE Bosnia and one from Herzegovina). Their branch is probably from Huns.

Q exist among Serbs, but it is extremely rare. Of 4236 Y DNA results in the public base of "Serbian DNA project" there is only 25 Q (23 Serbs and 2 Hungarians from Vojvodina).

RyoHazuki
09-15-2022, 05:02 PM
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 4.0175% / 0.04017518
89.8 Germanic_Migration
10.2 Thracian

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 4.0516% / 0.04051596 | ADC: 0.5x RC
83.0 Germanic_Migration
17.0 Illyrian-Pannonian

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 4.0293% / 0.04029296
87.2 Germanic_Migration
12.8 Paleo_Balkanic

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 4.0293% / 0.04029296 | ADC: 0.5x RC
87.2 Germanic_Migration
12.8 Paleo_Balkanic

Gaditanian
09-16-2022, 01:28 PM
(: You never know. You get some kind of asian component in most calculators, if memory serves. Your y-dna is also very suspicious, rare in Europe but very common within former borders of Ottoman Empire. Probably not Huns, but maybe Hayreddin Barbarossa landed somewhere close to your town back then. (:

Who knows ! ;)

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:


Admix Results (sorted):

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.1% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 12.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.82
2 87.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 12.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.96
3 88.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 11.7% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.07
4 88.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 11.6% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.13
5 88.5% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 11.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.16
6 88.5% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 11.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 4.21
7 89.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 10.6% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.41
8 87.4% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 12.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.51
9 87.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 12.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.52
10 88.9% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 11.1% Kumyks (Yunusbayev)



https://c.tenor.com/aO3uPYwGOR0AAAAd/koksal-baba-koksal-pc.gif

Freeroostah
09-16-2022, 02:47 PM
Target: VangosH_scaled
Distance: 2.9320% / 0.02931974
77.4 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
21.8 Slavic_Migration
0.8 Steppe_Nomad

Target: VangosH_scaled
Distance: 2.4452% / 0.02445221
45.4 Roman-Byzantine
31.4 Slavic_Migration
22.6 Thracian
0.6 Sarmatian

Target: VangosH_scaled
Distance: 2.5657% / 0.02565683
56.0 Roman-Byzantine
30.2 Slavic_Migration
13.8 Paleo_Balkanic

cakmir7y
09-17-2022, 05:50 PM
standard

Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 2.2274% / 0.02227365
59.4 Slavic_Migration
31.8 Germanic_Migration
8.8 Paleo_Balkanic


expanded

Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 2.2205% / 0.02220500
59.4 Slavic_Migration
28.2 Germanic_Migration
12.4 Illyrian-Pannonian


simplified

Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 2.2350% / 0.02234986
59.6 Slavic_Migration
32.4 Germanic_Migration
8.0 Pre-Slavic_Balkans

Terminator98
09-18-2022, 06:05 PM
Such calculators are only reason why I still (occasionally) visit this site.

Standard:

Target: Terminator.G25.simulation
Distance: 2.2007% / 0.02200689
59.0 Slavic_Migration
27.2 Roman-Byzantine
13.8 Paleo_Balkanic

Expanded:


Target: Terminator.G25.simulation
Distance: 2.0971% / 0.02097143
60.8 Slavic_Migration
19.8 Thracian
19.4 Roman-Byzantine

Simplified:

Target: Terminator.G25.simulation
Distance: 2.2776% / 0.02277636
55.8 Slavic_Migration
44.2 Pre-Slavic_Balkans

Rizza
09-18-2022, 06:17 PM
Such calculators are only reason why I still (occasionally) visit this site.

Standard:

Target: Terminator.G25.simulation
Distance: 2.2007% / 0.02200689
59.0 Slavic_Migration
27.2 Roman-Byzantine
13.8 Paleo_Balkanic

Expanded:


Target: Terminator.G25.simulation
Distance: 2.0971% / 0.02097143
60.8 Slavic_Migration
19.8 Thracian
19.4 Roman-Byzantine

Simplified:

Target: Terminator.G25.simulation
Distance: 2.2776% / 0.02277636
55.8 Slavic_Migration
44.2 Pre-Slavic_Balkans

You can find ancient samples here with G25 and make one yourself https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrhcfNMLW0oMXIbHGUE60v2taCM7PFw1/view

PLogan
09-19-2022, 12:56 AM
Target: PLogan_scaled
Distance: 3.5879% / 0.03587852
82.6 Germanic_Migration
16.8 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.6 Thracian

khanx34
09-19-2022, 01:46 AM
Target: Southeast_kurganoid_66
Distance: 1.5250% / 0.01234986
59.6 Gypsymanic_De
32.4 Hardbass_Migration
8.0 Pre-Horsethiefer_Balkans

vasiliki23
09-19-2022, 06:15 PM
Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 2.4757% / 0.02475710
61.2 Paleo_Balkanic
20.6 Slavic_Migration
18.2 Roman-Byzantine

Distance to: VASILIKI_scaled
0.03397906 Paleo_Balkanic
0.06746330 Roman-Byzantine
0.09812840 Germanic_Migration
0.11183384 Slavic_Migration
0.31255118 Steppe_Nomad


Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 2.3726% / 0.02372584
61.4 Thracian
19.0 Slavic_Migration
8.8 Germanic_Migration
5.8 Roman-Byzantine
5.0 Sarmatian

Distance to: VASILIKI_scaled
0.03410716 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.05645560 Thracian
0.06746330 Roman-Byzantine
0.09812840 Germanic_Migration
0.11183384 Slavic_Migration
0.16676419 Sarmatian
0.31297950 Magyar_Elite
0.39289483 Hunnic
0.43091653 Pannonian_Avar


Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 2.5020% / 0.02502016
77.4 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
22.2 Slavic_Migration
0.4 Germanic_Migration

Distance to: VASILIKI_scaled
0.04030690 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
0.09812840 Germanic_Migration
0.11183384 Slavic_Migration
0.31255118 Steppe_Nomad

Danjojo
09-24-2022, 11:59 AM
Distance to: DanjojoG25sim

0.03214587 Germanic_Migration
0.03912455 Slavic_Migration
0.07482959 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.10434979 Paleo_Balkanic
0.11560218 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
0.12846816 Sarmatian
0.13498027 Thracian
0.14247938 Roman-Byzantine
0.28768969 Magyar_Elite
0.29342324 Steppe_Nomad
0.37811734 Hunnic
0.42096979 Pannonian_Avar

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.9540% / 0.00953993 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.6 Slavic_Migration
44.2 Germanic_Migration
11.2 Paleo_Balkanic

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.9388% / 0.00938804 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.6 Slavic_Migration
39.6 Germanic_Migration
15.8 Illyrian-Pannonian

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 1.0257% / 0.01025724 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.4 Germanic_Migration
44.8 Slavic_Migration
9.8 Pre-Slavic_Balkans

Mayuk24
09-24-2022, 01:08 PM
Target: Mayuk24_scaled
Distance: 3.7904% / 0.03790400
27.6 Paleo_Balkanic
24.8 Germanic_Migration
24.6 NA_8avg
21.8 Roman-Byzantine
1.2 Steppe_Nomad


Target: Mayuk24_scaled
Distance: 3.7531% / 0.03753130
38.2 Illyrian-Pannonian
24.4 NA_8avg
21.8 Roman-Byzantine
14.0 Germanic_Migration
1.6 Pannonian_Avar

Target: Mayuk24_scaled
Distance: 3.7966% / 0.03796586
51.0 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
24.6 NA_8avg
23.0 Germanic_Migration
1.4 Steppe_Nomad


PD: NA_8avg is a avg sample from Native americans.. i'm mix

Leto
09-24-2022, 01:26 PM
Target: Mayuk24_scaled
Distance: 3.7904% / 0.03790400
27.6 Paleo_Balkanic
24.8 Germanic_Migration
24.6 NA_8avg
21.8 Roman-Byzantine
1.2 Steppe_Nomad


Target: Mayuk24_scaled
Distance: 3.7531% / 0.03753130
38.2 Illyrian-Pannonian
24.4 NA_8avg
21.8 Roman-Byzantine
14.0 Germanic_Migration
1.6 Pannonian_Avar

Target: Mayuk24_scaled
Distance: 3.7966% / 0.03796586
51.0 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
24.6 NA_8avg
23.0 Germanic_Migration
1.4 Steppe_Nomad


PD: NA_8avg is a avg sample from Native americans.. i'm mix
Can you quickly share your Euro K13 results?

wvwvw
09-24-2022, 02:43 PM
How do you do this step by step?

Danjojo
09-24-2022, 02:50 PM
How do you do this step by step?

I put my GEDmatch K36 in here to get simulated g25 results.

http://allelocator.com/

Used this calculator to compare with the sources

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

Mayuk24
09-24-2022, 05:30 PM
Can you quickly share your Euro K13 results?


euro k13

Target: Mayuk13
Distance: 47.6955% / 0.47695519
31.2 Southwest_French
14.6 Sardinian
11.6 Mayan
10.4 Tuscan
9.2 Karitiana
4.0 Estonian
3.8 North_Amerindian
3.0 Yoruban
2.8 Italian_Abruzzo
2.6 Spanish_Aragon
2.0 Saudi
1.2 Yemenite_Jewish
1.0 Cyprian
0.8 Belorussian
0.8 Selkup
0.4 Austrian
0.2 French
0.2 Papuan
0.2 Serbian

Target: Mayuk13
Distance: 48.2287% / 0.48228670
29.8 Southwest_French
16.4 Sardinian
10.6 Karitiana
9.4 Tuscan
8.0 Mayan
6.2 North_Amerindian
3.6 Southwest_Finnish
3.0 Italian_Abruzzo
3.0 Yoruban
2.4 Belorussian
2.4 Saudi
1.4 Norwegian
1.4 Spanish_Aragon
1.2 Cyprian
0.8 Yemenite_Jewish
0.2 Papuan
0.2 Spanish_Cantabria


Distance to: Mayuk13
26.12224531 North_Italian
27.07989476 Spanish_Extremadura
27.15980302 Tuscan
27.26419447 Portuguese
27.64748451 Spanish_Galicia
28.10488036 Spanish_Murcia
28.48278954 Spanish_Andalucia
28.74204934 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
28.85238118 Greek_Thessaly
28.87593981 Spanish_Valencia
29.23116830 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
29.31266279 Spanish_Cataluna
29.48802638 Romanian
29.57282367 West_Sicilian
29.78138848 Spanish_Cantabria
29.89214780 Bulgarian
30.31270196 Italian_Abruzzo
30.74629896 Southwest_French
30.94023109 French
31.04968438 Serbian
31.25904189 Spanish_Aragon
31.95524683 Central_Greek
32.00706172 East_Sicilian
33.23665898 South_Italian
33.91137715 West_German

(I'm 25% Native American)


g25 Marques 2022

Target: Mayuk24_scaled
Distance: 0.5365% / 0.00536493
16.6 Greece_&_Albania:Greek_Peloponnese_Arcadia_o
13.0 Native_Central_America: Panama_Pre-Colonial
12.4 SW_France:French_Occitan_Nouvelle-Aquitaine_Dordogne
10.8 West_Maghreb:Moroccan_Chefchaouen
9.0 Native_Chaco:Chane
8.4 Sardinian:Sardinian
7.8 North_Iberia:Basque_Spain_Gipuzkoa_Tolosa
5.6 Scotland:Scottish_Argyll_and_Bute
4.6 North_West_Europe:French_Oďl_Hauts-de-France_Nord_o1_(Flemish_Profile)
3.2 Germanic_europe:German_East_Prussia_Central_simula ted
3.0 North_West_Europe:French_Oďl_Grand_Est_Marne
1.0 West_Maghreb:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit
0.8 South_Siberia:Tofalar_o
0.6 East_&_South_Iberia:Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_( Catalan)
0.6 Native_Curacao:Curacao_Ceramic
0.4 Mongolia:Mongolia_Xianbei
0.4 South_Siberia:Khakass
0.4 East_Siberian:Yakut
0.4 Native_Baja_California:Mexico_Pericues
0.4 Nigeria:Esan
0.4 Nigeria:Yoruba_Nigeria
0.2 Papua: Papuan

Mayuk24
09-24-2022, 05:43 PM
How do you do this step by step?



Target: Spanish_Valencia:HG01773
Distance: 0.0312% / 0.00031196
6.2 DEU_LBK_KD:I0795
6.0 RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res:DA190
5.6 COG_Kindoki_230BP:KIN004
5.2 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK459
4.2 CHN_Gaofeng_400BP:GaofengNL23
4.2 RUS_Fatyanovo_Ivanovo_BA:TIM008
3.8 IND_Roopkund_A:I7036
3.6 England_LIA_low_res:I19047
2.8 England_MIA_LIA:I20626
2.6 ROU_N:I17835
2.4 POL_Globular_Amphora:RISE1252
2.2 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA:I19457
2.2 RUS_Angara_River_N:irk040
2.2 TUR_Tell_Kurdu_EC:KRD004
2.0 JPN_Nagabaka_late:NAG019
2.0 RUS_Poltavka:I0418
2.0 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK434
1.8 ARM_Karmir_Blur_EIA:I13031
1.8 RUS_Okunevo_BA:RISE667
1.6 GRC_Minoan_Odigitria_low_res:I9130
1.6 ITA_Venosa_EMA:VEN012
1.6 RUS_Lake_Baikal_BA:irk076
1.6 UZB_Kokcha_BA:I8507
1.4 CHN_Caishichang_IA:C3314
1.4 FRA_Alsace_IA1:NOR2B6
1.4 Greater_Antilles_eastern_Ceramic:I17903
1.2 CHE_FN_steppe_contam:MX304
1.2 GRC_Mycenaean:I9010
1.2 PAK_Katelai_IA:I12472
1.2 TUR_Arslantepe_LC:ART038
1.2 VUT_1200BP:FUT006
1.0 Baltic_EST_BA:s19_X08_1
1.0 CHN_Amur_River_9200BP:NE45
1.0 COG_NgongoMbata_220BP:NGO001
1.0 HUN_ALPc_Tiszadob_MN:I2375
1.0 HUN_late_Avar:ARK16
0.8 ARM_Lchashen_LBA:I18272
0.8 BWA_Taukome_1100BP:TAU001
0.8 IND_Roopkund_B:I3348
0.8 JPN_Jomon:JpFu1
0.8 VK2020_SWE_Oland_VA:VK380
0.6 CHN_Dzungaria_EBA2:G218M5-3N
0.6 HUN_LBK_MN:I1882
0.6 IND_Roopkund_A:I3343
0.6 PAK_Katelai_IA:I12446
0.6 Sargat_IA:BGD002
0.4 HUN_Avar_Early_Danube-Tisza:A1819
0.4 IND_Roopkund_A:I6942
0.4 ITA_Broion_EBA:BRC010_018
0.4 KAZ_Aigyrly_Sarmatian:AIG002
0.4 KAZ_Botai:BOT14
0.4 KAZ_Mereke_MBA:I11735
0.4 KAZ_Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA_o:I3860
0.4 Levant_ISR_C:I1170
0.4 PER_Laramate_900BP:I1742
0.4 SRB_Mokrin_EBA_Maros:MOK30
0.4 TJK_Sarazm_En:I4290
0.4 UKR_N:I5892
0.4 VK2020_GreenlandW_VA:VK189
0.4 VUT_Teouma:I5951
0.2 Baltic_EST_BA:s19_V14_2
0.2 BGR_MP_N:I1108
0.2 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M820
0.2 DEU_Tollense_BA:WEZ83
0.2 DOM_southeast_Ceramic:I15051
0.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11459
0.2 MNE_LBA:I14498
0.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA:ARS012
0.2 PAN_Isthmo_Colombian:PAPV_114
0.2 Scythian_UKR:MJ14
0.2 SDN_MA_Kulubnarti:I6333
0.2 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm127
0.2 TUR_IA:MA2198
0.2 UGA_Munsa_500BP:MUN001
0.2 VUT_2350BP:MAL002


Target: Spanish_Valencia:HG01773
Distance: 0.8243% / 0.00824277
27.0 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Timau _(Bavarian)_o
16.0 Corsican:Corsican_Corse-du-Sud
8.2 East_Europe:Ukrainian_Volyn
8.0 Nigeria:Yoruba_Nigeria
6.0 Germanic_europe:German_Lower_Saxony_North_simulate d
4.6 Polynesia_Samoa:Samoan_(low_res)
4.2 Japan:Japanese
3.4 Central_Siberia:Ket
3.2 South_India_&_Sri_Lanka:Malayalam_Nair
2.6 South_Siberia:Khakass_Sagai
2.6 Native_Amazonian:Surui
2.4 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sauri s_(Bavarian)
2.2 Central_Siberia:Ket_o1
1.8 Central_Asia_Iranic:Pashtun_Pakistan
1.8 North_India_&_East-Pakistan:Brahmin_Bihar_Bhumihar
1.8 South_India_&_Sri_Lanka:Malayan
1.0 East_Europe:Ukrainian_Zaporizhzhia
1.0 Volga_Oural:Mari
1.0 East_Siberian:Yakut
0.6 Germanic_europe:German_East_Prussia_Central_simula ted
0.4 Papua:Kosipe
0.2 Philippines_Islanders:Igorot_Kankanaey

let me know if in the g25 ancient you get some jomon c;

https://vahaduo.github.io/g25download/

Leto
09-24-2022, 06:07 PM
euro k13

Target: Mayuk13
Distance: 47.6955% / 0.47695519
31.2 Southwest_French
14.6 Sardinian
11.6 Mayan
10.4 Tuscan
9.2 Karitiana
4.0 Estonian
3.8 North_Amerindian
3.0 Yoruban
2.8 Italian_Abruzzo
2.6 Spanish_Aragon
2.0 Saudi
1.2 Yemenite_Jewish
1.0 Cyprian
0.8 Belorussian
0.8 Selkup
0.4 Austrian
0.2 French
0.2 Papuan
0.2 Serbian

Target: Mayuk13
Distance: 48.2287% / 0.48228670
29.8 Southwest_French
16.4 Sardinian
10.6 Karitiana
9.4 Tuscan
8.0 Mayan
6.2 North_Amerindian
3.6 Southwest_Finnish
3.0 Italian_Abruzzo
3.0 Yoruban
2.4 Belorussian
2.4 Saudi
1.4 Norwegian
1.4 Spanish_Aragon
1.2 Cyprian
0.8 Yemenite_Jewish
0.2 Papuan
0.2 Spanish_Cantabria


Distance to: Mayuk13
26.12224531 North_Italian
27.07989476 Spanish_Extremadura
27.15980302 Tuscan
27.26419447 Portuguese
27.64748451 Spanish_Galicia
28.10488036 Spanish_Murcia
28.48278954 Spanish_Andalucia
28.74204934 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
28.85238118 Greek_Thessaly
28.87593981 Spanish_Valencia
29.23116830 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
29.31266279 Spanish_Cataluna
29.48802638 Romanian
29.57282367 West_Sicilian
29.78138848 Spanish_Cantabria
29.89214780 Bulgarian
30.31270196 Italian_Abruzzo
30.74629896 Southwest_French
30.94023109 French
31.04968438 Serbian
31.25904189 Spanish_Aragon
31.95524683 Central_Greek
32.00706172 East_Sicilian
33.23665898 South_Italian
33.91137715 West_German

(I'm 25% Native American)


I can't see the components themselves.

Mayuk24
09-24-2022, 07:38 PM
I can't see the components themselves.


what do you mean ?

Leto
09-27-2022, 05:41 PM
what do you mean ?
I mean North_Atlantic, Baltic, etc.

mariusz99
09-28-2022, 06:14 PM
Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 2.1779% / 0.02177893 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.8 Slavic_Migration
19.2 Germanic_Migration



Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 2.1051% / 0.02105105 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.6 Slavic_Migration
17.6 Germanic_Migration
1.4 Magyar_Elite
1.4 Sarmatian

Gergő Marosvári
09-29-2022, 11:06 AM
Standard:

Target: Gergő
Distance: 2.0137% / 0.02013736
59.4 Slavic_Migration
18.2 Roman-Byzantine
17.0 Germanic_Migration
5.4 Steppe_Nomad

Expanded:

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.7316% / 0.01731606
57.6 Slavic_Migration
18.6 Roman-Byzantine
13.4 Sarmatian
9.6 Germanic_Migration
0.8 Hunnic

Simplified:

Target: Gergő
Distance: 2.2666% / 0.02266599
58.0 Slavic_Migration
20.2 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
16.0 Germanic_Migration
5.8 Steppe_Nomad

Figaro
02-28-2023, 12:42 AM
Target: CordedFather
Distance: 2.0506% / 0.02050594
74.0 Germanic_Migration
17.8 Slavic_Migration
8.2 Thracian

Target: CordedMother
Distance: 1.5333% / 0.01533271
59.4 Slavic_Migration
31.0 Germanic_Migration
6.6 Roman-Byzantine
2.2 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.8 Pannonian_Avar

Nurzat
03-05-2023, 07:02 PM
Standard:
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7555% / 0.01755525
59.4 Slavic_Migration :cool:
15.8 Paleo_Balkanic
15.8 Roman-Byzantine
6.0 Germanic_Migration
3.0 Steppe_Nomad

Expanded:
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.6258% / 0.01625762
56.0 Slavic_Migration
17.6 Thracian
10.6 Illyrian-Pannonian
9.8 Sarmatian
5.6 Roman-Byzantine
0.4 Hunnic

Simplified:
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7684% / 0.01768368
59.0 Slavic_Migration
33.2 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
4.6 Germanic_Migration
3.2 Steppe_Nomad

ombustman
03-05-2023, 08:34 PM
Standard:
Target: Ombustman
Distance: 3.9188% / 0.03918789
74.4 Roman-Byzantine
25.6 Steppe_Nomad

Expanded:
Target: Ombustman
Distance: 3.7468% / 0.03746782
77.2 Roman-Byzantine
20.0 Hunnic
2.8 Sarmatian

Simplified:
Target: Ombustman
Distance: 6.2968% / 0.06296755
73.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
26.4 Steppe_Nomad

Annihilus
03-05-2023, 11:33 PM
Standard
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 4.6130% / 0.04613028
74.0 Roman-Byzantine
16.8 Slavic_Migration
9.2 Steppe_Nomad

Expanded
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 3.6480% / 0.03647955
71.0 Roman-Byzantine
29.0 Sarmatian

Simplified:
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 6.0940% / 0.06094042
81.8 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
11.4 Steppe_Nomad
6.8 Slavic_Migration

Demirkazık
03-06-2023, 06:45 AM
Standard:
Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 4.3410% / 0.04340963
67.0 Roman-Byzantine
33.0 Steppe_Nomad

Expanded:
Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 4.1832% / 0.04183201
61.8 Roman-Byzantine
20.2 Sarmatian
18.0 Pannonian_Avar

Simplified:
Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 5.8793% / 0.05879253
66.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
33.4 Steppe_Nomad

Lemminkäinen
03-06-2023, 08:03 AM
Seems like I am closer the Slavic southern migration than many of Central and Balkan Europeans, also keeping in mind that my Iron Age Saami ancestry (around 8%) dilutes other ancestral proportions. Highest Magyar Elite so far?



Distance to: MauriJussi1m_scaled
0.04610883 Slavic_Migration
0.06157967 Germanic_Migration
0.10668406 Sarmatian
0.12419891 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.18275705 Thracian
0.18748832 Roman-Byzantine
0.25675930 Magyar_Elite
0.35186085 Hunnic
0.39683434 Pannonian_Avar

Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 3.0665% / 0.03066547
64.4 Slavic_Migration
24.8 Germanic_Migration
9.8 Magyar_Elite
1.0 Sarmatian

Dušan
03-06-2023, 08:40 AM
Seems like I am closer the Slavic southern migration than many of Central and Balkan Europeans





Slavic_Migration in this calculator means proto-Slavic, not south Slavic.


Distance to: Slavic_Migration
0.00864939 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.01091717 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.01130236 Polish
0.01254512 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.01277615 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.01400160 Russian_Voronez
0.01467375 Russian_Belgorod
0.01591173 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.01617180 Russian_Orel
0.01641472 Russian_Smolensk

Lemminkäinen
03-06-2023, 08:42 AM
Slavic_Migration in this calculator means proto-Slavic, not south Slavic.


Distance to: Slavic_Migration
0.00864939 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.01091717 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.01130236 Polish
0.01254512 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.01277615 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.01400160 Russian_Voronez
0.01467375 Russian_Belgorod
0.01591173 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.01617180 Russian_Orel
0.01641472 Russian_Smolensk

I understood it.

hazmatnik
03-06-2023, 02:40 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Wp0rjPkk/Screenshot-20230306-093846-Chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/4nNnbqwf)

Mingle
03-06-2023, 03:50 PM
All averages were hand-made by me entirely from ancient samples (each average is made from several ancient averages).
I made several versions of the calc:

Standard:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Paleo_Balkanic,0.1250736,0.1541351,0.0214736,-0.0289725,0.0317036,-0.0113537,0.0000921,0.0003724,0.0095636,0.0325282, 0.0038978,0.0074054,-0.0149716,-0.0019149,-0.0129568,-0.0088532,0.0048716,0.0028826,0.0048936,-0.009057,-0.0067342,0.0052338,-0.000704,0.0004862,-0.0035851
Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003

Expanded:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Thracian,0.1229291,0.1594381,0.0086944,-0.0522363,0.0300569,-0.0197858,-0.0014883,-0.0002824,0.0120557,0.0404972,0.0076595,0.0064775,-0.0152542,0.0018809,-0.019785,-0.0139142,0.0063887,0.0051661,0.0057474,-0.0131731,-0.0088317,0.0047606,-0.0022323,-0.0012187,-0.0040449
Illyrian-Pannonian,0.1272181,0.1488321,0.0342527,-0.0057087,0.0333504,-0.0029216,0.0016724,0.0010272,0.0070714,0.0245592, 0.000136,0.0083333,-0.014689,-0.0057107,-0.0061287,-0.0037922,0.0033546,0.0005992,0.0040397,-0.0049409,-0.0046368,0.005707,0.0008244,0.0021912,-0.0031253
Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Sarmatian,0.1117449,0.0532282,0.0336943,0.0690486,-0.0267943,0.0245853,0.002045,0.0001037,-0.02861,-0.0392488,-0.0043743,0.0011002,-0.0002522,-0.0238538,0.0194891,0.0114935,-0.0005505,-0.0010697,-0.0014915,0.0001637,-0.0116124,0.0009816,0.002053,0.0060253,0.0002131
Hunnic,0.0623034,-0.2253944,0.0506864,0.011594,-0.0454768,-0.0115619,0.0067906,0.0088539,-0.0007999,-0.0094761,-0.0239025,0.0016617,0.0059201,-0.011449,0.0075504,0.0112353,0.0019079,0.001298,0. 0008026,0.0065537,-0.0176596,0.0057404,-0.0027201,0.006437,-0.0021869
Pannonian_Avar,0.0600495,-0.2622124,0.0721845,-0.0157319,-0.0572629,-0.0340561,0.0131888,0.0188694,0.0049168,0.0076355,-0.0125681,0.0006913,-0.0028951,0.0011079,0.0001557,-0.0009794,0.000845,-0.0036218,-0.0001288,0.010093,-0.0180092,-0.0034169,-0.0155848,-0.0021811,-0.0004697
Magyar_Elite,0.0864396,-0.1261699,0.07567,0.0510302,-0.0546241,-0.0077802,0.0066908,0.0107116,-0.0067244,-0.0295977,0.0190754,-0.0012256,0.0112286,-0.044588,-0.0056392,-0.000843,0.0006374,-0.0005854,-0.0030902,-0.0045111,-0.008655,0.0134452,0.0072282,0.001291,-0.0039576

Simplified:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Pre-Slavic_Balkans,0.1192914,0.1541692,0.0096238,-0.0372163,0.0255072,-0.0145898,-0.0007404,0.0000222,0.0085899,0.0302236,0.0038711, 0.0064284,-0.0129215,-0.0018036,-0.0120513,-0.006105,0.0059946,0.0007847,0.0036567,-0.0064427,-0.0050942,0.0041968,-0.0014649,0.000291,-0.0024128
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003
How are you separating Paleo-Balkan from Roman?

Tie red
03-06-2023, 06:05 PM
Standard calc.

Mom serb dalmatia

Target: Mira_scaled
Distance: 1.8390% / 0.01839049
50.6 Slavic_Migration
33.6 Roman-Byzantine
14.0 Germanic_Migration
1.8 Steppe_Nomad

Dad flemish

Target: Pascal_scaled
Distance: 2.0195% / 0.02019481
86.4 Germanic_Migration
13.6 Paleo_Balkanic

Myself

Target: Q_S_scaled
Distance: 1.5817% / 0.01581709
44.0 Germanic_Migration
27.4 Slavic_Migration
20.2 Paleo_Balkanic
7.4 Roman-Byzantine
1.0 Steppe_Nomad

Tie red
03-06-2023, 06:07 PM
Standard calc.

Mom serb dalmatia

Target: Mira_scaled
Distance: 1.8390% / 0.01839049
50.6 Slavic_Migration
33.6 Roman-Byzantine
14.0 Germanic_Migration
1.8 Steppe_Nomad

Dad flemish

Target: Pascal_scaled
Distance: 2.0195% / 0.02019481
86.4 Germanic_Migration
13.6 Paleo_Balkanic

Myself

Target: Q_S_scaled
Distance: 1.5817% / 0.01581709
44.0 Germanic_Migration
27.4 Slavic_Migration
20.2 Paleo_Balkanic
7.4 Roman-Byzantine
1.0 Steppe_Nomad

alnortedelsur
03-06-2023, 06:32 PM
Standard Version with Amerindian and SSA references:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.5341% / 0.03534069
62.0 Paleo_Balkanic
21.2 Germanic_Migration
6.8 Yukpa
6.4 SSA
3.6 Roman-Byzantine

Extended version with Amerindian and SSA references:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.4664% / 0.03466380
79.2 Illyrian-Pannonian
7.4 Roman-Byzantine
6.8 Yukpa
6.4 SSA
0.2 Pannonian_Avar

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.4666% / 0.03466561 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.6 Illyrian-Pannonian
7.0 Roman-Byzantine
6.8 Yukpa
6.6 SSA

Simplified version with Amerindian and SSA references:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.6082% / 0.03608191
60.8 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
26.4 Germanic_Migration
6.8 Yukpa
6.0 SSA

Same results on ADC: 0.25 and ADC: 0.50

Vitez
03-21-2023, 11:48 AM
I wanted to try this calculator with my G25 coords (last time it was with k36)

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.6133% / 0.01613334
65.6 Slavic_Migration
20.4 Roman-Byzantine
7.6 Germanic_Migration
6.4 Paleo_Balkanic

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.4993% / 0.01499267
64.4 Slavic_Migration
15.2 Roman-Byzantine
10.6 Thracian
8.0 Germanic_Migration
1.2 Hunnic
0.6 Magyar_Elite


Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.5188% / 0.01518757
63.6 Slavic_Migration
30.4 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
3.6 Germanic_Migration
2.4 Steppe_Nomad

ScandinavianCelt
03-21-2023, 01:21 PM
All averages were hand-made by me entirely from ancient samples (each average is made from several ancient averages).
I made several versions of the calc:

Standard:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Paleo_Balkanic,0.1250736,0.1541351,0.0214736,-0.0289725,0.0317036,-0.0113537,0.0000921,0.0003724,0.0095636,0.0325282, 0.0038978,0.0074054,-0.0149716,-0.0019149,-0.0129568,-0.0088532,0.0048716,0.0028826,0.0048936,-0.009057,-0.0067342,0.0052338,-0.000704,0.0004862,-0.0035851
Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003

Expanded:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Thracian,0.1229291,0.1594381,0.0086944,-0.0522363,0.0300569,-0.0197858,-0.0014883,-0.0002824,0.0120557,0.0404972,0.0076595,0.0064775,-0.0152542,0.0018809,-0.019785,-0.0139142,0.0063887,0.0051661,0.0057474,-0.0131731,-0.0088317,0.0047606,-0.0022323,-0.0012187,-0.0040449
Illyrian-Pannonian,0.1272181,0.1488321,0.0342527,-0.0057087,0.0333504,-0.0029216,0.0016724,0.0010272,0.0070714,0.0245592, 0.000136,0.0083333,-0.014689,-0.0057107,-0.0061287,-0.0037922,0.0033546,0.0005992,0.0040397,-0.0049409,-0.0046368,0.005707,0.0008244,0.0021912,-0.0031253
Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Sarmatian,0.1117449,0.0532282,0.0336943,0.0690486,-0.0267943,0.0245853,0.002045,0.0001037,-0.02861,-0.0392488,-0.0043743,0.0011002,-0.0002522,-0.0238538,0.0194891,0.0114935,-0.0005505,-0.0010697,-0.0014915,0.0001637,-0.0116124,0.0009816,0.002053,0.0060253,0.0002131
Hunnic,0.0623034,-0.2253944,0.0506864,0.011594,-0.0454768,-0.0115619,0.0067906,0.0088539,-0.0007999,-0.0094761,-0.0239025,0.0016617,0.0059201,-0.011449,0.0075504,0.0112353,0.0019079,0.001298,0. 0008026,0.0065537,-0.0176596,0.0057404,-0.0027201,0.006437,-0.0021869
Pannonian_Avar,0.0600495,-0.2622124,0.0721845,-0.0157319,-0.0572629,-0.0340561,0.0131888,0.0188694,0.0049168,0.0076355,-0.0125681,0.0006913,-0.0028951,0.0011079,0.0001557,-0.0009794,0.000845,-0.0036218,-0.0001288,0.010093,-0.0180092,-0.0034169,-0.0155848,-0.0021811,-0.0004697
Magyar_Elite,0.0864396,-0.1261699,0.07567,0.0510302,-0.0546241,-0.0077802,0.0066908,0.0107116,-0.0067244,-0.0295977,0.0190754,-0.0012256,0.0112286,-0.044588,-0.0056392,-0.000843,0.0006374,-0.0005854,-0.0030902,-0.0045111,-0.008655,0.0134452,0.0072282,0.001291,-0.0039576

Simplified:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Pre-Slavic_Balkans,0.1192914,0.1541692,0.0096238,-0.0372163,0.0255072,-0.0145898,-0.0007404,0.0000222,0.0085899,0.0302236,0.0038711, 0.0064284,-0.0129215,-0.0018036,-0.0120513,-0.006105,0.0059946,0.0007847,0.0036567,-0.0064427,-0.0050942,0.0041968,-0.0014649,0.000291,-0.0024128
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003

STANDARD

Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 1.9278% / 0.01927807

91.8 Germanic_Migration
4.8 Slavic_Migration
2.4 Roman-Byzantine
1.0 Steppe_Nomad

EXPANDED

Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 1.8664% / 0.01866416

88.8 Germanic_Migration
4.8 Sarmatian
3.8 Slavic_Migration
2.6 Roman-Byzantine

SIMPLIFIED

Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 1.9410% / 0.01940981

91.8 Germanic_Migration
4.6 Slavic_Migration
2.4 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
1.2 Steppe_Nomad

So is this test basically confirming the total Balkan-Caucasus element I inherited?

ScandinavianCelt
03-21-2023, 01:28 PM
Standard Version with Amerindian and SSA references:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.5341% / 0.03534069
62.0 Paleo_Balkanic
21.2 Germanic_Migration
6.8 Yukpa
6.4 SSA
3.6 Roman-Byzantine

Extended version with Amerindian and SSA references:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.4664% / 0.03466380
79.2 Illyrian-Pannonian
7.4 Roman-Byzantine
6.8 Yukpa
6.4 SSA
0.2 Pannonian_Avar

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.4666% / 0.03466561 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.6 Illyrian-Pannonian
7.0 Roman-Byzantine
6.8 Yukpa
6.6 SSA

Simplified version with Amerindian and SSA references:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.6082% / 0.03608191
60.8 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
26.4 Germanic_Migration
6.8 Yukpa
6.0 SSA

Same results on ADC: 0.25 and ADC: 0.50

Can you DM me those references or post them here? I'd like to try it that way also. Thanks!!

Far_away
03-21-2023, 04:12 PM
Standard

Distance: 2.6609% / 0.02660893
49.6 Slavic_Migration
28.4 Roman-Byzantine
18.2 Paleo_Balkanic
3.8 Germanic_Migration

Expanded

Distance: 2.6242% / 0.02624219
47.4 Slavic_Migration
28.8 Roman-Byzantine
23.8 Illyrian-Pannonian

Simplified

Distance: 2.7154% / 0.02715431
50.2 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
48.4 Slavic_Migration
1.4 Germanic_Migration

Figaro
03-21-2023, 04:28 PM
Target: CordedFather
Distance: 2.0506% / 0.02050594
74.0 Germanic_Migration
17.8 Slavic_Migration
8.2 Thracian

Target: CordedMother
Distance: 1.5333% / 0.01533271
59.4 Slavic_Migration
31.0 Germanic_Migration
6.6 Roman-Byzantine
2.2 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.8 Pannonian_Avar

Almost my mother’s literal amount of AJ admixture. Goes to show that that group is likely mostly Greco-Roman. Of course there’s some distance here, etc etc, but it’s still probably largely accurate..

cass
03-21-2023, 05:49 PM
Target: sample
Distance: 1.3500% / 0.01349955
63.0 Slavic_Migration
36.2 Germanic_Migration
0.8 Illyrian-Pannonian

ombustman
03-24-2023, 11:53 PM
Standard:
Target: Ombustman
Distance: 3.9188% / 0.03918789
74.4 Roman-Byzantine
25.6 Steppe_Nomad

Expanded:
Target: Ombustman
Distance: 3.7468% / 0.03746782
77.2 Roman-Byzantine
20.0 Hunnic
2.8 Sarmatian

Simplified:
Target: Ombustman
Distance: 6.2968% / 0.06296755
73.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
26.4 Steppe_Nomad

With my real coordinates now:
Standard:
Target: Ombustman_scaled
Distance: 4.2176% / 0.04217639
75.0 Roman-Byzantine
25.0 Steppe_Nomad

Expanded:
Target: Ombustman_scaled
Distance: 4.0425% / 0.04042453
75.0 Roman-Byzantine
11.8 Hunnic
7.6 Sarmatian
5.6 Pannonian_Avar

Simplified:
Target: Ombustman_scaled
Distance: 6.0808% / 0.06080752
74.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
25.4 Steppe_Nomad

Dušan
06-10-2023, 11:49 AM
All averages were hand-made by me entirely from ancient samples (each average is made from several ancient averages).
I made several versions of the calc:

Standard:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Paleo_Balkanic,0.1250736,0.1541351,0.0214736,-0.0289725,0.0317036,-0.0113537,0.0000921,0.0003724,0.0095636,0.0325282, 0.0038978,0.0074054,-0.0149716,-0.0019149,-0.0129568,-0.0088532,0.0048716,0.0028826,0.0048936,-0.009057,-0.0067342,0.0052338,-0.000704,0.0004862,-0.0035851
Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003

Expanded:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Thracian,0.1229291,0.1594381,0.0086944,-0.0522363,0.0300569,-0.0197858,-0.0014883,-0.0002824,0.0120557,0.0404972,0.0076595,0.0064775,-0.0152542,0.0018809,-0.019785,-0.0139142,0.0063887,0.0051661,0.0057474,-0.0131731,-0.0088317,0.0047606,-0.0022323,-0.0012187,-0.0040449
Illyrian-Pannonian,0.1272181,0.1488321,0.0342527,-0.0057087,0.0333504,-0.0029216,0.0016724,0.0010272,0.0070714,0.0245592, 0.000136,0.0083333,-0.014689,-0.0057107,-0.0061287,-0.0037922,0.0033546,0.0005992,0.0040397,-0.0049409,-0.0046368,0.005707,0.0008244,0.0021912,-0.0031253
Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Sarmatian,0.1117449,0.0532282,0.0336943,0.0690486,-0.0267943,0.0245853,0.002045,0.0001037,-0.02861,-0.0392488,-0.0043743,0.0011002,-0.0002522,-0.0238538,0.0194891,0.0114935,-0.0005505,-0.0010697,-0.0014915,0.0001637,-0.0116124,0.0009816,0.002053,0.0060253,0.0002131
Hunnic,0.0623034,-0.2253944,0.0506864,0.011594,-0.0454768,-0.0115619,0.0067906,0.0088539,-0.0007999,-0.0094761,-0.0239025,0.0016617,0.0059201,-0.011449,0.0075504,0.0112353,0.0019079,0.001298,0. 0008026,0.0065537,-0.0176596,0.0057404,-0.0027201,0.006437,-0.0021869
Pannonian_Avar,0.0600495,-0.2622124,0.0721845,-0.0157319,-0.0572629,-0.0340561,0.0131888,0.0188694,0.0049168,0.0076355,-0.0125681,0.0006913,-0.0028951,0.0011079,0.0001557,-0.0009794,0.000845,-0.0036218,-0.0001288,0.010093,-0.0180092,-0.0034169,-0.0155848,-0.0021811,-0.0004697
Magyar_Elite,0.0864396,-0.1261699,0.07567,0.0510302,-0.0546241,-0.0077802,0.0066908,0.0107116,-0.0067244,-0.0295977,0.0190754,-0.0012256,0.0112286,-0.044588,-0.0056392,-0.000843,0.0006374,-0.0005854,-0.0030902,-0.0045111,-0.008655,0.0134452,0.0072282,0.001291,-0.0039576

Simplified:

Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0 593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0 011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
Pre-Slavic_Balkans,0.1192914,0.1541692,0.0096238,-0.0372163,0.0255072,-0.0145898,-0.0007404,0.0000222,0.0085899,0.0302236,0.0038711, 0.0064284,-0.0129215,-0.0018036,-0.0120513,-0.006105,0.0059946,0.0007847,0.0036567,-0.0064427,-0.0050942,0.0041968,-0.0014649,0.000291,-0.0024128
Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0 .0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0. 0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752, 0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003


Standard:

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.3530% / 0.02353020
60.2 Slavic_Migration
37.6 Paleo_Balkanic
1.6 Roman-Byzantine
0.6 Steppe_Nomad




Expanded:

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.0933% / 0.02093271
66.0 Slavic_Migration
33.2 Thracian
0.8 Pannonian_Avar




Simplified:

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.4043% / 0.02404284
63.2 Slavic_Migration
36.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
0.2 Steppe_Nomad

Kenshiro
09-05-2025, 05:19 AM
Standard:
Distance to: Kenshiro_Scaled
0.03811340 Paleo_Balkanic
0.04895786 Roman-Byzantine
0.11102484 Germanic_Migration
0.12713043 Slavic_Migration
0.30260272 Steppe_Nomad
Expanded:
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 2.2266% / 0.02226589
50.4 Roman-Byzantine
31.6 Paleo_Balkanic
11.4 Slavic_Migration
4.2 Steppe_Nomad
2.4 Germanic_Migration
Distance to: Kenshiro_Scaled
0.04582726 Illyrian-Pannonian
0.04895786 Roman-Byzantine
0.05335255 Thracian
0.11102484 Germanic_Migration
0.12713043 Slavic_Migration
0.16046201 Sarmatian
0.30268111 Magyar_Elite
0.38264750 Hunnic
0.42137811 Pannonian_Avar
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 1.6956% / 0.01695626
48.6 Thracian
27.2 Roman-Byzantine
19.4 Sarmatian
2.8 Slavic_Migration
2.0 Illyrian-Pannonian
Simplified:
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 2.4113% / 0.02411336
88.0 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
6.6 Slavic_Migration
5.4 Steppe_Nomad
Distance to: Kenshiro_Scaled
0.03324469 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
0.11102484 Germanic_Migration
0.12713043 Slavic_Migration
0.30260272 Steppe_Nomad

JohnDoe22
09-05-2025, 05:24 PM
Distance to: JohnDoe
0.04936569 Slavic_Migration
0.05269709 Germanic_Migration
0.09441911 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
0.30118603 Steppe_Nomad

Target: JohnDoe
Distance: 1.2639% / 0.01263850
57.2 Slavic_Migration
31.0 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
11.8 Germanic_Migration

Target: JohnDoe
Distance: 1.2362% / 0.01236169
56.6 Slavic_Migration
27.8 Paleo_Balkanic
10.8 Germanic_Migration
4.8 Roman-Byzantine


Target: JohnDoe
Distance: 1.2280% / 0.01227963
56.6 Slavic_Migration
22.0 Thracian
16.0 Germanic_Migration
3.4 Roman-Byzantine
2.0 Illyrian-Pannonian