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Rizza
09-15-2022, 11:16 AM
Samples found in North Eastern Albania , in Kukes, near the border of Kosovo. Mostly samples that belong to Y-DNA J2b2-L283 and R1b-L23 AFAIK

Distance to: ALB_cinamak_Anc_I16251
1.07484410 Albanians_Montenegro
1.07831303 Albanian_Kosovo
1.14188940 Albanian_north
1.14271966 GR_Thesalloniki
1.17530993 Albanian_south
1.20025960 IT_Friuli
1.22644462 GR_Thrace
1.24474885 IT_Marche
1.26894943 GR_Central
1.27190658 GR_Macedonia

Distance to: ALB_cinamak_Anc_1d.rel.I16256_I17633
2.17016013 Albanian_Kosovo
2.17512344 IT_Ladinia
2.18195216 Albanians_Montenegro
2.18261172 IT_Veneto
2.20123659 IT_Trentino
2.20877324 IT_Piedmont
2.24590834 Moldova_sud
2.24797207 Albanian_north
2.26309665 IT_Friuli
2.28406401 Tirol


Distance to: ALB_cinamak_EBA_I14689
2.26200081 Abazin
2.27705781 Nogai_Dagestan
2.42679020 Kumyk
2.50643175 Cirkassian
2.50839349 Kabardin
2.54580501 Tabassaran
2.57755846 Avar
2.58018007 Kaitag
2.59597530 Lezgin
2.69214487 Tsakhur

Distance to: ALB_cinamak_Anc_I16254
1.38996490 IT_Emilia-Romagna
1.40692595 IT_Toscania
1.45480085 IT_Marche
1.47499639 IT_Lazio
1.48542944 Albanian_south
1.49398528 Albanian_north
1.51249405 IT_Molise
1.51453737 FR_Corsica
1.53371901 Albanian_Kosovo
1.54069327 GR_Ipeiros

Distance to: ALB_cinamak_Anc_I16253
1.57707919 IT_Lombardia
1.60222133 IT_Toscania
1.69901036 IT_Emilia-Romagna
1.70666551 Albanians_FYROM
1.79720556 Albanian_south
1.82056761 Albanian_north

Distance to: ALB_cinamak_Anc_I14692
1.29229025 IT_Toscania
1.29838966 IT_Emilia-Romagna
1.33822026 IT_Liguria
1.43573303 IT_Lombardia
1.45826258 GR_Ipeiros
1.50588238 FR_Corsica
1.51392313 Swiss_Italian
1.52106062 IT_Trentino
1.53061001 Albanian_Kosovo
1.54144663 IT_Marche

Sample found in Northern Macedonia:

Distance to: MKD_BA:I7231
0.02721903 Albanian


Samples found in Croatia:


Distance to: HRV_IA_I3313
1.41428962 IT_Veneto
1.51111193 IT_Aosta
1.53241280 Albanian_Kosovo
1.53417027 Albanian_north
1.53700296 IT_Friuli
1.55188512 IT_Piedmont
1.58708565 Albanians_Montenegro
1.61639078 Albanians_FYROM
1.62339206 IT_Lombardia
1.64073982 IT_Trentino

Distance to: HRV_Cetina_BA:I11843
0.02479983 Albanian

I would like to thank some of the members at Anthrogenica and Eupedia for these samples.

Rizza
09-15-2022, 11:22 AM
EV-13 confirmed to of also been an Illyrian Y-DNA


5724 HRV_IA Sv. Križ Brdovečki Croatia E-Y16721 U5b1d1a

So far 4 Illyrian samples found with EV-13.

Sample in North Macedonia E-L618:


I10166 -300 MKD_Anc Isar Marvinci, V. Marvinci-Valandovo, Southwest Necropolis North Macedonia E-L618

EV-13 found in Turkey:



I8367 600 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A_brother.I8366 Basilica (Marmara, Iznik) Turkey 40,42 29,71 45,31% E-V13 T2g1
I8366 600 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A Basilica (Marmara, Iznik) Turkey 40,42 29,71 71,10% E-Y30977 T2g1

Rizza
09-15-2022, 04:07 PM
I will update with more samples as I go.

Rizza
09-15-2022, 04:11 PM
My mistake, the Caucasian like sample is from the Early Bronze Age.

Rizza
09-18-2022, 12:05 AM
One of those samples in the OP does not cluster like a Caucasian but Moldovan. The guy ran it wrong. These are G25 for samples from Albania:

Distance to: ALB_MBA:I8471
0.04696172 Albanian_Mirditė
0.04791923 Italian_Tuscany
0.04792832 Swiss_Italian
0.04809151 Italian_Piedmont
0.04840223 French_Corsica
0.04909330 Italian_Veneto
0.05010355 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
0.05051373 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05101654 Italian_Bergamo
0.05131666 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
0.05144378 Albanian_Pukė
0.05148225 Albanian_Central_Albania
0.05176896 Italian_Umbria
0.05203126 Albanian_Montenegro
0.05213647 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.05267451 Albanian_Labėria
0.05271834 Albanian_Kosovo
0.05273225 Albanian_Dibra
0.05300211 French_Provence
0.05317641 Albanian_Himarė
0.05326896 Italian_Northeast
0.05355394 Spanish_Baleares
0.05381182 Spanish_Mallorca
0.05426558 Albanian_Korēė
0.05451782 Italian_Lombardy


Some more:



Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16251
0.02702153 Albanian_Mirditė
0.02886532 Italian_Piedmont
0.02909987 Italian_Tuscany
0.02918718 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
0.02952803 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
0.02974394 Swiss_Italian
0.03092626 Albanian_Labėria
0.03100157 Albanian_Himarė
0.03106432 Albanian_Pukė
0.03124415 Albanian_Central_Albania
0.03157371 Albanian_Kosovo
0.03237354 Italian_Bergamo
0.03244842 Albanian_Montenegro
0.03280549 Albanian_Dibra
0.03361312 Italian_Umbria
0.03361518 Albanian_Korēė
0.03386512 French_Corsica
0.03400007 Greek_Thessaly
0.03427858 Italian_Veneto
0.03503797 Italian_Marche
0.03591488 Italian_Lazio
0.03608747 Italian_Lombardy
0.03822531 Greek_Messenia
0.03823370 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03851080 Greek_Argolis



Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14692
0.03040623 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
0.03081551 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
0.03132625 Italian_Bergamo
0.03134221 Swiss_Italian
0.03137717 Italian_Piedmont
0.03174711 Albanian_Mirditė
0.03312290 Albanian_Montenegro
0.03344434 Albanian_Kosovo
0.03356377 Italian_Tuscany
0.03375936 Italian_Veneto
0.03379613 Greek_Thessaly
0.03406956 Albanian_Korēė
0.03439415 Albanian_Pukė
0.03477466 Albanian_Dibra
0.03490373 Italian_Lombardy
0.03513336 Albanian_Labėria
0.03537663 Albanian_Central_Albania
0.03684893 Albanian_Himarė
0.03707327 Italian_Northeast
0.03795358 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03801065 French_Corsica
0.03826424 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03886443 Italian_Umbria
0.03958920 Greek_Macedonia
0.03994990 Italian_Liguria


Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14690
0.02229399 Italian_Veneto
0.02298098 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02688542 Italian_Northeast
0.02729830 Italian_Piedmont
0.02735221 Italian_Bergamo
0.02802242 Albanian_Montenegro
0.02846475 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
0.02918632 Swiss_Italian
0.02950115 Italian_Lombardy
0.02963871 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
0.02997476 Albanian_Kosovo
0.03042430 French_Provence
0.03162317 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03249177 Albanian_Mirditė
0.03252671 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03322520 Italian_Liguria
0.03336647 Italian_Tuscany
0.03380439 Spanish_Baleares
0.03394714 Albanian_Pukė
0.03451902 Albanian_Korēė
0.03524078 Albanian_Labėria
0.03554151 Greek_Thessaly
0.03564620 Albanian_Himarė
0.03601456 Albanian_Central_Albania
0.03642084 Spanish_Menorca



Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16256
0.04250106 Swiss_Italian
0.04264031 Albanian_Mirditė
0.04380569 Italian_Veneto
0.04450226 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
0.04556721 Albanian_Kosovo
0.04565211 Albanian_Dibra
0.04606658 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
0.04618701 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04623457 Albanian_Pukė
0.04649888 Albanian_Montenegro
0.04710777 Italian_Tuscany
0.04723999 Italian_Piedmont
0.04746880 Italian_Northeast
0.04757404 Albanian_Central_Albania
0.04771402 Albanian_Labėria
0.04804920 Albanian_Korēė
0.04834720 Albanian_Himarė
0.04873892 French_Provence
0.04875999 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04920106 Italian_Bergamo
0.04957710 Swiss_French
0.05065795 Rumelia_East
0.05092262 Spanish_Baleares
0.05096698 French_Corsica
0.05144038 Spanish_Mallorca



Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16254
0.04732269 Italian_Bergamo
0.04810171 Albanian_Mirditė
0.04849878 Italian_Piedmont
0.04853738 Italian_Veneto
0.04992935 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.05039020 Italian_Northeast
0.05127478 Albanian_Montenegro
0.05138411 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
0.05175460 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
0.05206174 Swiss_Italian
0.05208033 Italian_Lombardy
0.05262085 Italian_Tuscany
0.05286735 Albanian_Dibra
0.05309711 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05315686 Albanian_Kosovo
0.05342267 French_Corsica
0.05472650 Spanish_Mallorca
0.05485039 Spanish_Baleares
0.05513225 Albanian_Pukė
0.05529749 Albanian_Central_Albania
0.05539984 Albanian_Korēė
0.05550170 French_Provence
0.05619702 Albanian_Himarė
0.05626443 Albanian_Labėria
0.05639041 Italian_Liguria


Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16253
0.03283337 Italian_Bergamo
0.03437699 Italian_Veneto
0.03637630 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03812178 Italian_Piedmont
0.03864386 Italian_Northeast
0.03933206 Italian_Lombardy
0.03943111 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
0.03956018 Albanian_Mirditė
0.03998658 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
0.04014912 Albanian_Montenegro
0.04078850 French_Corsica
0.04087147 Swiss_Italian
0.04174371 Albanian_Dibra
0.04240445 Albanian_Kosovo
0.04281563 Italian_Tuscany
0.04417635 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04430015 Spanish_Baleares
0.04434147 Albanian_Korēė
0.04492772 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04529686 French_Provence
0.04552786 Albanian_Central_Albania
0.04563367 Albanian_Pukė
0.04633452 Albanian_Labėria
0.04649093 Greek_Thessaly
0.04658005 Albanian_Himarė

Rizza
09-18-2022, 12:06 AM
Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14688
0.03466868 Italian_Lombardy
0.03574003 Italian_Piedmont
0.03720541 Italian_Tuscany
0.03732377 Italian_Marche
0.03881356 Italian_Bergamo
0.03936723 Greek_Thessaly
0.04110045 Albanian_Mirditė
0.04119381 French_Corsica
0.04147152 Italian_Lazio
0.04147423 Italian_Liguria
0.04153581 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
0.04201079 Italian_Umbria
0.04201454 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
0.04237186 Albanian_Himarė
0.04309610 Greek_Messenia
0.04321013 Albanian_Central_Albania
0.04389889 Albanian_Labėria
0.04430538 Italian_Molise
0.04468798 Albanian_Montenegro
0.04476998 Italian_Veneto
0.04502914 Greek_Argolis
0.04515023 Albanian_Pukė
0.04523418 Greek_Arcadia
0.04533092 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.04533278 Italian_Abruzzo

Rizza
09-18-2022, 12:14 AM
Samples found in North Eastern Albania , in Kukes, near the border of Kosovo. Mostly samples that belong to Y-DNA J2b2-L283 and R1b-L23 AFAIK



Distance to: ALB_cinamak_EBA_I14689
2.26200081 Abazin
2.27705781 Nogai_Dagestan
2.42679020 Kumyk
2.50643175 Cirkassian
2.50839349 Kabardin
2.54580501 Tabassaran
2.57755846 Avar
2.58018007 Kaitag
2.59597530 Lezgin
2.69214487 Tsakhur
.

This sample has been run wrong I think


Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_EBA:I14689
0.06948086 Moldovan
0.07052045 Hungarian
0.07209303 Austrian
0.07256572 Croatian
0.07259759 German_East
0.07289054 Moldovan_o
0.07298430 German_Erlangen
0.07299307 Bosnian
0.07306210 Afrikaner
0.07309684 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.07390864 German_Hamburg
0.07436587 Turkish_Deliorman
0.07441320 Czech
0.07458326 Slovenian
0.07466194 French_Seine-Maritime
0.07543545 Shetlandic
0.07554799 German
0.07608724 Serbian
0.07668875 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.07706948 BelgianA
0.07707535 Dutch
0.07736168 Scottish
0.07766964 Orcadian
0.07827308 Irish
0.07853678 Montenegrin




Same sample