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strike978
09-19-2022, 12:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ZW8754e.png
https://i.imgur.com/R73BhcB.png
https://i.imgur.com/jmTYKrI.png
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Compare to my AncestryDNA and 23andme and Dnagenics Modern world k34 result. Why does G25 always give me so much Arab? No matter what calculator I use I get that strong shift to Arab Peninsula when using G25 coordinates.

I do look Middle Eastern or maybe from Caucasus since I am more light skin not brown so I could see myself as passing from there but I figure Southern European + Sub-Saharan African + Indigenous American can maybe make you look West Asian? I see lot of Mexican look West Asian actually and yes people do think I look "white" or "middle eastern" or something like afghan even if I have this much african and indigenous. No I don't claim to be "white" nor do I want to be "white".

So maybe I do have significant West Asian like DNA that doesn't show up on 23andme and Ancestry result?

Is this maybe because of Al-Andalus or something? I don't see how else it can be so high. Do Spanish have Middle Eastern DNA baked in modern reference populations?

Rizza
09-19-2022, 12:34 PM
All these calculators are pretty much crap made by armchair scientists, they even give Albanian 30% Polish . They are just fun to play around with .

Jingle Bell
09-19-2022, 12:39 PM
Because u have Canarian Ancestry = Guanche ancestry too, Ngl but i got 9% of MENA in g25 with only 44% Portuguese, but i have Serfadi ancestors, and g25 read more distant ancestry, example: a Italian get 93% European in 23andme, but get 30% - 40% in G25 because some MENA is alr in the "Italian" component, what is your Ancient results ( Global and Latin American) u got high Iberian?

Jingle Bell
09-19-2022, 12:43 PM
Idk, g25 was very good to me, this was extremally accurate, but the ppl see only the things with the best fit, example: a ppl who is half East African and Half Indonesian will be clpser to a Malagasy on g25, but this dont mean he are malagasy, just mean this is closer to him, i am closer to 35% Basque + 15% MENA (1.1 Fit) but i am 48% Iberian, and in g25 a mix of 44% Iberian + 6% MENA is less closer (1.3 Fit) but is the accurate one? U get it? My english sucks so sry lol:picard2:

strike978
09-20-2022, 05:52 PM
https://i.imgur.com/L8WHaDR.png
https://i.imgur.com/sSQBYtH.png

I get these with Ancient Ancestry.

Firenna
09-20-2022, 06:10 PM
Are you from the Caribbean? A lot of Canarian ancestry there.

strike978
09-20-2022, 06:15 PM
Yeah I am on both sides.

Jingle Bell
09-20-2022, 06:45 PM
looks like this MENA is true

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Looks like u have Canarian ancestry, a average Canarian is 75% Iberian 20% Guanche (North African) 5% Levant (Arab, Phenocian etc. . )
But looks like ur North African is low/average for someone who is ~ 60% Canarian, but ur Arab + Levant is very high, prob jewish ancestors or extra moor blood
But not rly surreal, many Latinos have moorish + jew ancestry, its very comum
Try this calculator, this separate well moorish from iberian from Guanche dna (At least for me)
you left your g25 coordinates in another thread so i'll use them in this calculator:
JingleBell- 115618
Strike- 115619
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u results looks normal to me, kinda more Arab shifted like me but pretty normal, but u got more NA dna, where ur spanish ancestry comes from? Canary islands?

Jingle Bell
09-20-2022, 07:08 PM
I tried with ancients populations
Obs: Iberian = pre celts tribes, speaks a non IE language, have non IE culture but have great indo-european genetic influences

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(without celt reference)
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your mena is normal/ a little high not rly sacre

zebruh
09-20-2022, 08:00 PM
Ftdna gives me alot of middle eastern and north african also but then the rest of west eurasian is central european.

But on the other dna test i never score central european.

strike978
09-20-2022, 08:09 PM
Thanks for looking into it.

https://i.imgur.com/P3FKJIq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5X6yS32.png

I did a Sequencing.com test too and it gave me this not even any Spanish but I think you are right. It must be from Canarian + distant Moorish and Jewish ancestry.

I also look like I match very closely genetically with Medieval Iberians.

https://i.imgur.com/aMVLqaY.png

And most my relatives are Hispanics. I don't see anything unusual there. I don't see any Middle Eastern or North African relatives at all on 23andme or Ancestry.

Rizza
09-23-2022, 08:47 PM
Most of these calculators are completely bullshit as are most of these PCA Maps. And most of these DNA tests.