Is reaching a global population of eight billion an achievement or an indictment of humanity?

[Tooting Carmen]

This rather Panglossian and over-optimistic article thinks it is the former: https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/11/14/eight-billion-people-a-human-success-story/

[Cristiano viejo]

It is a catastrophe.

[Hektor12]

World becomeing dirty. (Literally)

Imagine, 8 billion people shitting somewhere on this planet everyday.

[Beowulf]

if it keeps going up that fast this will be a very big mess.

[gixajo]

The cause of most of the problems we have just now, and the cause of future new ones.

[Tooting Carmen]

The cause of most of the problems we have just now, and the cause of future new ones.

So, population size is in itself a bigger problem than greed, corruption, inequality, political or religious or ethnic extremism then? (Playing Devil's advocate here btw).

[gixajo]

So, population size is in itself a bigger problem than greed, corruption, inequality, political or religious or ethnic extremism then? (Playing Devil's advocate here btw).

All that you comment on gets worse the more people there are.

[Tooting Carmen]

All that you comment on gets worse the more people there are.

Although the article I posted in the OP certainly goes too far, the point is there is (at least per capita) indeed less poverty and violence in the world than ever before, even though there are far more humans than in the past.

[sean]

Is reaching a global population of eight billion an achievement or an indictment of humanity?

Almost all of this growth is from Africa and shithole brown parts of Asia. The world is low on resources. Too many mouths to feed, too many wires to run power through, more crime and poverty as the world darkens. We already have enough blacks and browns in Europe, while native Europeans are dying in a pointless war. But people would rather be just little useful idiots for the powers that profit from war.

https://i.imgur.com/Mw8ocEq.jpg

[Mejgusu]

I think the fact that world population didn’t growth as expected shows that some countries/societies achieved a certain level of wealth, education and women got more freedom. On the other hand we can see that birthrates show global wealth gap, Europe is dealing with massive demographic decline while Many African countries will face with overpopulation.

[Tooting Carmen]

I think the fact that world population didn’t growth as expected shows that some countries/societies achieved a certain level of wealth, education and women got more freedom. On the other hand we can see that birthrates show global wealth gap, Europe is dealing with massive demographic decline while Many African countries will face with overpopulation.

Except in Afghanistan and some SSA countries, most of the world has seen really drastic falls in birth rates. Even places you really wouldn't expect - Iran, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, some states in India - nowadays have below replacement rate birth rates.

[Mejgusu]

Except in Afghanistan and some SSA countries, most of the world has seen really drastic falls in birth rates. Even places you really wouldn't expect - Iran, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, some states in India - nowadays have below replacement rate birth rates.

I would say nearly all African countries, besides of Maghreb countries. As you can see, Afghanistan, Iraq and Jemen are having pretty high birthrates, obviously because of the current sad situation of their society. Some think that conservative societies lead to high birthrates, except some cases, it seems to be wrong.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Countries_by_Birth_Rate_in_2017.svg/800px-Countries_by_Birth_Rate_in_2017.svg.png

[Tooting Carmen]

Some think that conservative societies lead to high birthrates

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Countries_by_Birth_Rate_in_2017.svg/800px-Countries_by_Birth_Rate_in_2017.svg.png

Up to a point, but like I said and the map itself demonstrates, look at the birthrates of Iran, Saudi Arabia, India and Bangladesh.

[Tooting Carmen]

Look at this:
https://brilliantmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/fertility-rates-1970-2014-600x573.png?p=1044

[Incal]

So, population size is in itself a bigger problem than greed, corruption, inequality, political or religious or ethnic extremism then? (Playing Devil's advocate here btw).

All those problems get multiplied when there's more people. We should be 3 billion tops.

[Marshall Theodore]

As was said by CV, its a catastrophe