Classify/Best fit for these Burgenland Germans

[Hungarian_master]

Burgenland is the most eastern province of Austria, in the past was part of the historical Hungary.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Burgenland_in_Austria.svg/2880px-Burgenland_in_Austria.svg.png
https://mek.oszk.hu/11800/11891/html/m6b37389a.jpg

The majority of the population of Burgenland are Germans (I don't know much about the sub-group of the Germans of Burgenland; questionable, that they more related to Danube Swabians or the regular Austrians, maybe Blondie knows that), but there are sizable Croat and Hungarian minorities.

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[Tooting Carmen]

Alpines and Subnordids. Despite their much more southerly latitude, they are no more brunette than the English.

[Immanenz]

bearded Ainu/ Peschanitsa man in the middle ^^
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[Oliver109]

They give more western than eastern vibes, meds, alpines, danubians, CM types, fit best in Germany, Switzerland, Hungary, Slovenia, C Republic, Slovakia and France.

[Blondie]

they more related to Danube Swabians or the regular Austrians, maybe Blondie knows that

They are austrians. These germans live there since 9.century or earlier.

[aherne]

They look like a mix between SW Slavs and Germans. Even I look more German! There is more Slavic than Germanic influence, but predominant element is Pannonian (same as in plains Hungarians): a central European phenotype (frequently blonde) that long before lost its ethnic foundation. Languages change, people stay...

[Oliver109]

They look like a mix between SW Slavs and Germans. Even I look more German! There is more Slavic than Germanic influence, but predominant element is Pannonian (same as in plains Hungarians): a central European phenotype (frequently blonde) that long before lost its ethnic foundation. Languages change, people stay...

I don't see a great deal of Slavic influence, you would pass there but i have only seen your profile pic, you look more French imo than German.

[Hungarian_master]

They are austrians. These germans live there since 9.century or earlier.

Ok. I know, that the Croats of Western Transdanubia are more related to Burgenland Croats than the Croats of Croatia. What about the Germans of Western Transdanubia? (for example from Sopron)

They are more related to the Burgenland Germans or the Danube Swabians?

[Jana]

Unlike other Austrians, Burgenland Germans are tribally Frankish afaik and not Bavarian.

[Africanwidow]

Can't see anything.

[Blondie]

What about the Germans of Western Transdanubia? (for example from Sopron)

They are also austrians, but only few germans live in Sopron nowadays.

[Hungarian_master]

only few germans live in Sopron nowadays.

Yes, this caused by the deportations after the World War II, but there are still a relatively significant population in this town.

Census data from 2011, but the censuses are not 100% percet (since based on self-declaration):
https://docplayer.hu/docs-images/98/137434881/images/2-1.jpg

[Mortimer]

They look like any white european population or narrower central european population, like hungarians, slovaks, austrians etc.

[Atlantic Reptilian]

Yes, this caused by the deportations after the World War II, but there are still a relatively significant population in this town.

Census data from 2011, but the censuses are not 100% percet (since based on self-declaration):
https://docplayer.hu/docs-images/98/137434881/images/2-1.jpg

Why did they get deported post WW2?

[Blondie]

Yes, this caused by the deportations after the World War II, but there are still a relatively significant population in this town.

Census data from 2011, but the censuses are not 100% percet (since based on self-declaration):
https://docplayer.hu/docs-images/98/137434881/images/2-1.jpg

Not just the deportation but the communist assimilation too. Now Ödenburg is 5-6% german:
https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopron#Etnikai_%C3%B6sszet%C3%A9tel

The population census can be misleading because tons of danube swabian has dual identity, so german & hungarian at same time and you cant choose "dual identity" option. 1 months ago i declared myself german in the newest hungarian population census, but i know other danube swabians who declared themselves rather hungarian but they have german identity too. Rougly half million people has german identity in Hungary.

[Blondie]

Why did they get deported post WW2?

Is this a serious question?

[Atlantic Reptilian]

Is this a serious question?

Yes. I'm not German so IDK and I don't want to assume anything.

[Blondie]

Yes. I'm not German so IDK and I don't want to assume anything.

No need to be german to know this info. The reason was the WW2 and german/nazi agression. Germans were not so popular at this time.

[Mopi Licinius Crassus]

In the Austro-Hungarian Empire, did the Austrians consider themselves superior to the Hungarians, due to them being German and the Hungarians being a people who spoke a Uralic language ?

[Atlantic Reptilian]

No need to be german to know this info. The reason was the WW2 and german/nazi agression. Germans were not so popular at this time.

I know, but the oppression must have come from the government? As far as I know, when the SS occupied the area where my maternal ancestors are from, they weren't hated for being germans, but rather because the people didn't want war? Germans weren't treated poorly or yelled at, but people didn't like to be occupied, no matter if the occupiers were germans or partisans.

[Atlantic Reptilian]

In the Austro-Hungarian Empire, did the Austrians consider themselves superior to the Hungarians, due to them being German and the Hungarians being a people who spoke a Uralic language ?
I believe the Austro-Hungarian Empire embraced multiculturalism?

[Blondie]

In the Austro-Hungarian Empire, did the Austrians consider themselves superior to the Hungarians, due to them being German and the Hungarians being a people who spoke a Uralic language ?

Nope. There was feudalism in Austria-Hungary, which means nobles considered themselves superior to others, regardless of their ethnicity. I did not see any source that austrians looked down on hungarians in dualism, but hungarians opressed their minorities like slovaks or romanians and they treated them inferior.
In fact there was good relationship between hungarians and austrians, even after Austria got Burgenland. The only reason that Austria got this area was french thought it will poison this good relationship and austrians and hungarians will never join in a same country because of it. The plan didn't work because austrians did not opressed local hungarians and in exchange Horthy did not want to take back Burgenland. Horthy and Dollfuß were also good friends.

[Hungarian_master]

Bump!

[Roy]

1/5 looks off for Poland. So only a little of them would look foreign in my country in my view.

Why do you call them Germans? Sure - their native language is German but they're Austrian I think.

[Roy]

I believe the Austro-Hungarian Empire embraced multiculturalism?

Moreso than Prussia that would repress Poles and Baltic Prussians but I'd not say so that they ''embraced'' that. Even less economically speaking.