Mini Bronze Age European calculator (G25 scaled)

[gixajo]

Just with Bronze Age individuals, but using their 3 averaged references.

3 clusters that form a triangle in Europe 1 PCA, so any European should be included in it. :rolleyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/TPdFq8K4/baltic-vs-Greece-vs-Iberia.png (https://postimages.org/)




Iberia,0.124222,0.152814,0.056902,-0.00044,0.066831,-0.006681,-0.003157,0.002785,0.040714,0.057574,-0.003071,0.010534,-0.023546,-0.017212,0.004503,0.006388,0.006925,0.000233,-0.001648,-0.00019,0.009756,0.001422,-0.009966,-0.020909,0.001783
Aegean,0.119189,0.164951,-0.006707,-0.066907,0.025323,-0.02767,-0.002182,-0.006692,0.008721,0.044088,0.0066,0.00957,-0.019867,0.001445,-0.021386,-0.008543,0.010291,0.00229,0.008152,-0.007638,-0.008815,0.0028,-0.000378,0.001988,-0.001274
Baltic,0.131167,0.124378,0.098824,0.109728,0.04919 6,0.039974,0.01447,0.018867,-0.001928,-0.049646,0.000085,-0.018491,0.032677,0.040205,-0.016713,0.001092,0.00501,-0.0007,-0.001269,0.005604,-0.002585,-0.005093,0.009073,-0.019245,0.003085


For our American friends.(They could get even better distances than many Europeans)


SSA:Kindoki+NgongoMbta,-0.622992,0.062624,0.019862,0.015719,-0.006052,0.013108,-0.011907,0.015461,-0.035791,0.014336,0.004655,0.000499,-0.002825,-0.002844,-0.003031,0.009458,-0.007519,-0.000591,-0.001802,0.005044,0.001581,-0.003174,-0.000165,-0.006386,0.001158
Amerindian:Greater_Antilles_Archaic,0.049703,-0.318876,0.114896,0.095177,-0.111354,-0.017152,-0.28922,-0.343793,-0.011726,-0.0188,-0.002192,0.002523,-0.002007,0.02335,-0.005384,0.003646,0.001456,-0.001858,0.003708,0.004502,-0.001664,0.009047,0.000246,-0.003976,-0.003373


An intermediate reference between Baltic and Iberian (HUN_BA) for those who need it to get lower distances:


Central_Europe,0.128905,0.140651,0.063121,0.044251 ,0.046932,0.013945,0.006433,0.005509,0.012527,0.00 6105,-0.002862,-0.002847,0.001078,0.002787,-0.00017,0.010093,0.009078,0.000491,0.001257,0.0057 06,0.001856,0.003787,-0.00037,-0.010317,-0.003652

[paradox]

Thanks :)

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 3.4058% / 0.03405759
69.0 Aegean
31.0 Baltic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.0989% / 0.03098892
60.0 Aegean
40.0 Baltic

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 2.2084% / 0.02208420
51.0 Baltic
47.6 Aegean
1.4 Iberia

[Gallop]

Mi padre es un poquito más Aegean y Báltico.


Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.5205% / 0.03520504
59.8 Iberia
23.4 Aegean
13.8 Baltic
2.4 SSA:Kindoki+NgongoMbta
0.6 Amerindian:Greater_Antilles_Archaic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.0151% / 0.03015101
55.2 Iberia
25.0 Aegean
16.4 Baltic
3.2 SSA:Kindoki+NgongoMbta
0.2 Amerindian:Greater_Antilles_Archaic


XD y la virgen a ver si voy a venir del Tuntankamon ese, no, cómo se llama el otro, el Monteczuma, xd esto debe ser por los Árticos, dígome, que no lo sé, pero vamos...




Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.0212% / 0.04021240
59.0 Iberia
25.6 Aegean
15.4 Baltic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.8731% / 0.03873110
54.4 Iberia
27.8 Aegean
17.8 Baltic

[Jingle Bell]

Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 3.1313% / 0.03131267
47.0 SSA
25.0 Iberia
19.8 Aegean
5.2 Baltic
3.0 Amerindian
Thats a interesting one:thumb001:

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.1077% / 0.03107740
59.4 Iberia
24.4 Aegean
16.2 Baltic

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.2612% / 0.03261166
52.6 Iberia
35.0 Aegean
12.4 Baltic

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 3.6879% / 0.03687944
66.2 Iberia
17.6 Baltic
16.2 Aegean

[gixajo]

Mi padre es un poquito más Aegean y Báltico.

XD y la virgen a ver si voy a venir del Tuntankamon ese, no, cómo se llama el otro, el Monteczuma, xd esto debe ser por los Árticos, dígome, que no lo sé, pero vamos...

No hace falta que le pongas el SSA y Amerindian, el SSA apuntaría a nuestro NA y el amerindio sería ruido salvo que tengamos alguna mezcla personal asiática, o un extra de estepa, cosas así.

Pero aquí están nuestros resultados añadiendo esas dos:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.0596% / 0.03059646
59.6 Iberia
23.8 Aegean
15.6 Baltic
0.6 SSA
0.4 Amerindian

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.8308% / 0.02830799
53.4 Iberia
33.0 Aegean
11.2 Baltic
2.0 SSA
0.4 Amerindian

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 3.6489% / 0.03648913
66.4 Iberia
17.2 Baltic
15.6 Aegean
0.6 SSA
0.2 Amerindian

[Beowulf]

Target: k13:ivanK13
Distance: 2.7433% / 0.02743344
46.4 Iberia
36.0 Aegean
17.6 Baltic

[alnortedelsur]

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.6133% / 0.03613280
38.8 Aegean
33.6 Iberia
13.4 Baltic
7.8 Amerindian
6.4 SSA

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.10732139 Iberia
0.12223505 Aegean
0.19593316 Baltic
0.63102524 Amerindian:Greater_Antilles_Archaic
0.70044181 SSA:Kindoki+NgongoMbta

If I weren't part Amerindian and SSA, and was full European, these would be my results:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 8.6420% / 0.08642023
47.0 Aegean
30.4 Iberia
22.6 Baltic

[Defcon2]

Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 4.0205% / 0.04020542
53.2 Iberia
30.8 Aegean
11.2 Baltic
3.4 SSA
1.4 Amerindian

[PLogan]

Target: PLogan_scaled
Distance: 6.7207% / 0.06720706
41.8 Iberia
38.8 Baltic
18.4 Aegean
1.0 Amerindian

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 6.0814% / 0.06081356
44.0 Iberia
39.2 Baltic
16.2 Aegean
0.6 Amerindian

Target: Mother_scaled
Distance: 6.0927% / 0.06092736
42.6 Iberia
39.4 Baltic
16.4 Aegean
1.6 Amerindian

[gixajo]

...n

:rolleyes:

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.05181348 Central_Europe
0.10831175 Iberia
0.13032672 Baltic
0.16484488 Aegean
0.67553436 Amerindian:Greater_Antilles_Archaic
0.76659713 SSA:Kindoki+NgongoMbta

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 5.1603% / 0.05160319
99.4 Central_Europe
0.6 Amerindian:Greater_Antilles_Archaic

[Defcon2]

:rolleyes:

Soy uruguasho, algún plobrema?

[alexmegas777]

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.9482% / 0.02948168
56.4 Aegean
37.2 Baltic
6.4 Iberia

[gixajo]

Soy uruguasho, algún plobrema?

Se dice ploblema!!!

[Gaditanian]

Distance: 4.8300% / 0.04830042
43.0 Iberia
41.4 Aegean
15.6 Baltic

But.....

Distance: 3.1964% / 0.03196392
33.8 Aegean
30.8 Iberia
29.6 Central_Europe
3.8 SSA
2.0 Amerindian

Not a single drop of Baltic blood ;)

[Eurafricanid]

With only the original samples:
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 2.3354% / 0.02335351
47.8 SSA
25.4 Iberia
17.4 Aegean
6.6 Baltic
2.8 Amerindian


Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 2.2348% / 0.02234788
47.8 SSA
18.0 Iberia
16.0 Central_Europe
15.4 Aegean
2.8 Amerindian


More SSA then expected, so I added the usual SSA samples that fit best with my African side:

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 1.8411% / 0.01841108
47.2 SSA
24.0 Iberia
18.6 Aegean
6.8 Baltic
3.4 Amerindian

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 1.6713% / 0.01671274
47.2 SSA
16.8 Central_Europe
16.6 Aegean
16.0 Iberia
3.4 Amerindian


Now there's 0.6% more Amerindian then expected, looking at the results of others here, it seems to be a trend (probably means extra steppe).

[Gallop]

Distance: 4.8300% / 0.04830042
43.0 Iberia
41.4 Aegean
15.6 Baltic

But.....

Distance: 3.1964% / 0.03196392
33.8 Aegean
30.8 Iberia
29.6 Central_Europe
3.8 SSA
2.0 Amerindian

Not a single drop of Baltic blood ;)


No veas! 41.4 de Aegean

[Leferena]

Target: Leferena_scaled
Distance: 3.4152% / 0.03415155
35.6 Central_Europe
31.4 Aegean
31.2 Iberia
1.8 SSA

[vader]

Target: Vader_scaled
Distance: 3.8329% / 0.03832907
44.2 Iberia
30.4 Aegean
11.0 Baltic
9.8 Central_Europe
3.8 SSA
0.8 Amerindian


Target: Vader_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.3365% / 0.03336462
42.2 Iberia
30.0 Central_Europe
23.8 Aegean
3.0 SSA
1.0 Amerindian


Target: Vader_mom_scaled
Distance: 3.5496% / 0.03549591
36.0 Iberia
32.0 Aegean
16.4 Central_Europe
10.4 Baltic
3.8 SSA
1.4 Amerindian

Target: VaderGF_Simulated
Distance: 7.6252% / 0.07625164
65.6 Aegean
30.2 Baltic
3.2 Amerindian
1.0 SSA

weird that my gf is getting amerindian and ssa. She's half NW euro (Irish + Czech) half northern georgian

[Boudin]

Distance to: boudin_scaled
0.05395343 Central_Europe
0.07898162 Iberia
0.12775246 Aegean
0.16011516 Baltic
0.66894200 Amerindian:Greater_Antilles_Archaic
0.76693808 SSA:Kindoki+NgongoMbta

Target: boudin_scaled
Distance: 3.8681% / 0.03868061
67.0 Central_Europe
17.8 Aegean
13.0 Iberia
2.2 Amerindian

[MandM]

Simulated coords
Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.9620% / 0.02962044
55.8 Aegean
38.6 Baltic
5.6 Iberia

Davidski coord
Target: Milenko
Distance: 3.0447% / 0.03044720
60.0 Aegean
40.0 Baltic

[Beowulf]

con el central European:

Target: k13:ivanK13
Distance: 2.5467% / 0.02546660
39.2 Central_Europe
30.6 Aegean
30.2 Iberia

[gixajo]

Not a single drop of Baltic blood ;)

Pero tienes sangre, que es lo que cuenta!!!

Algunos tienen horchata...:p

[gixajo]

weird that my gf is getting amerindian and ssa. She's half NW euro (Irish + Czech) half northern georgian

Something related to her Eastern European ancestry maybe Central Asian, or simply an extra Yamnaya, few averaged ancient and extreme references, one more attempt in my tendency to use few references that encompass the greatest number of possible origins with acceptable distances.

Difficult to achieve with only three and from the Bronze age.

With only four modern references (or ancient references but basing them in modern populations), I already completed the challenge with the "4 corners of Europe" models and their different versions.

[RyoHazuki]

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 3.5807% / 0.03580656
88.8 Central_Europe
8.4 Iberia
2.8 Aegean

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 5.9934% / 0.05993364
91.2 Central_Europe
5.4 Aegean
1.8 Iberia
1.0 SSA
0.6 Amerindian

[vasiliki23]

Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 2.7718% / 0.02771758
70.8 Aegean
27.6 Baltic
1.6 Iberia

[PT Tagus]

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 3.3150% / 0.03315048
35.2 Central_Europe
32.4 Aegean
27.2 Iberia
5.2 SSA


Distanceto: Endovelicus_scaled
0.07489098 Iberia
0.08827167 Central_Europe
0.10016115 Aegean
0.19070374 Baltic
0.71985054 SSA:Kindoki+NgongoMbta

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 4.2820% / 0.04281959
44.2 Iberia
37.8 Aegean
18.0 Baltic

[hazmatnik]

Target: hazmatnik_scaled
Distance: 2.7995% / 0.02799488
54.0 Aegean
46.0 Baltic

[Gaditanian]

No veas! 41.4 de Aegean

https://y.yarn.co/415f59e9-9e1d-49cb-b86d-1a84f9b32e96_text.gif

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5PdlQbWsAA1gbx.jpg

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 5.6656% / 0.05665585
40.8 Iberia
38.2 Aegean
21.0 Baltic

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 3.7907% / 0.03790693
40.0 Central_Europe
28.0 Aegean
25.6 Iberia
5.0 SSA
1.4 Amerindian

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 3.6401% / 0.03640094
45.0 Iberia
28.6 Aegean
12.0 Baltic
7.2 Central_Europe
5.8 SSA
1.4 Amerindian

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 3.3602% / 0.03360176
40.4 Iberia
33.6 Central_Europe
20.8 Aegean
4.2 SSA
1.0 Amerindian

[Beowulf]

With the real coordinates:

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 4.1403% / 0.04140330
36.0 Central_Europe
34.6 Iberia
29.4 Aegean

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 4.2450% / 0.04244952
49.6 Iberia
34.4 Aegean
16.0 Baltic

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 3.4766% / 0.03476556
52.6 Baltic
31.6 Aegean
15.8 Iberia

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 3.3291% / 0.03329116
40.8 Central_Europe
33.8 Baltic
25.4 Aegean

[Figaro]

Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 5.0349% / 0.05034885
47.8 Baltic
28.4 Iberia
23.8 Aegean

Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 3.3686% / 0.03368554
57.0 Baltic
27.6 Aegean
15.4 Iberia

With Central Euro added-

Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 4.2113% / 0.04211322
87.6 Central_Europe
6.6 Aegean
5.8 Baltic

Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 2.8228% / 0.02822848
53.4 Central_Europe
30.8 Baltic
15.8 Aegean

[Dušan]

:D

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.5594% / 0.02559418
50.2 Baltic
49.8 Aegean

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 3.1477% / 0.03147699
60.2 Baltic
21.2 Aegean
18.6 Iberia

Target: cass
Distance: 2.4869% / 0.02486859
59.6 Central_Europe
31.4 Baltic
9.0 Aegean