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Eurafricanid
12-06-2022, 12:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/UeWw55J.png

https://i.imgur.com/gJRSqlL.png

https://i.imgur.com/Kml8ERZ.png

Marshall Theodore
12-06-2022, 01:18 PM
Maybe a new-christian ancestor?

Jingle Bell
12-06-2022, 01:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/UeWw55J.png

https://i.imgur.com/gJRSqlL.png

https://i.imgur.com/Kml8ERZ.png

Pretty sure is misread SSA, u are scoring only 35%, while in G25 u score abt 45% - 48%
FTDNA is good with haplps but they arent that good with autossonomical, its better trust more in G25 or Gedmatch

Jingle Bell
12-06-2022, 01:22 PM
Maybe a new-christian ancestor?

I dont think so, the moriscos were expelled to NA, while the jews come to Latin America mostly, but the jews werent more than 10% NA, they were mostly a mix of Levantine and Iberian/Italian/Greek

sanhadji
12-06-2022, 10:39 PM
the moriscos were expelled to NA

really ? it's a myth

Jingle Bell
12-06-2022, 10:42 PM
really ? it's a myth

Its not, during the inquisition jews and moriscos were aim of perseguition, mostly moricos go to NA escaping from this

sanhadji
12-06-2022, 10:43 PM
Its not, during the inquisition jews and moriscos were aim of perseguition, mostly moricos go to NA escaping from this

most moriscos became christians

Jingle Bell
12-06-2022, 10:46 PM
they were Christianized, but they were still persecuted like new Christians (Jews converted to Catholicism) and so they ended up fleeing to North Africa, while the Jews remained until the discovery of America, where they went mainly to Mexico, Cuba and the Northeast of the Brazil, and that is why there are very few remnants of Moorish dna in the Iberian peninsula, the current Iberians are genetically pretty much the same since the end of Roman times.
In fact mostly NA dna in Iberia comes from early Roman times, by the contact of mixed romans with berbers and with phoenician invaders.

zebruh
12-06-2022, 10:48 PM
I get about 10 percent on FTDNA and a substantial score of central European and no Iberian. Ftdna autosomal isn't good,

sanhadji
12-06-2022, 10:58 PM
they were Christianized, but they were still persecuted like new Christians (Jews converted to Catholicism) and so they ended up fleeing to North Africa, while the Jews remained until the discovery of America, where they went mainly to Mexico, Cuba and the Northeast of the Brazil, and that is why there are very few remnants of Moorish dna in the Iberian peninsula, the current Iberians are genetically pretty much the same since the end of Roman times.
In fact mostly NA dna in Iberia comes from early Roman times, by the contact of mixed romans with berbers and with phoenician invaders.

moriscos were only spanish muslims those one didn't migrate to north africa or barely
north africans dna is low in spain because communities didn't mixed north africans who were in spain (soldiers, imam, student, .. ) were there for a temporary period

zebruh
12-06-2022, 10:59 PM
they were Christianized, but they were still persecuted like new Christians (Jews converted to Catholicism) and so they ended up fleeing to North Africa, while the Jews remained until the discovery of America, where they went mainly to Mexico, Cuba and the Northeast of the Brazil, and that is why there are very few remnants of Moorish dna in the Iberian peninsula, the current Iberians are gebetically pretty much the same since the end of Roman times.
In fact mostly NA dna in Iberia comes from early Roman times, by the contact of mixed romans with berbers and with phoenician invadera.Some probabpy left to the Americas also. Theres supposedly evidence of it also. Its also a theory that colombus was Portuguese jewish really, that he was a illegitimate of some portuguese duke or something. His real name would be Salvador Fernandes Zarco. And that there was another genoan cirstobal colombo. Its speculated because,

1 he named places he discovered after placesnin Portugal, including Cuba. But he never named any places after places in Italy or Genoa

2. He married a portuguese Noble woman, if he was from a low class bankrupt dirt poor genoan he wouldn't be able to marry a portuguese woman. Nobles and her father would oppose it.

3. He could write in portuguese, spanish, hebrew, latin but not genoan. His writings were in those languages. They try to say he knew genoan off some pottery or something but theres not 1 writing of his in Genoan.

4. When he would return to spain he would often stop by to speak to the portuguese royalty.

5 in a catholic vatican latin document they still didn't write his name as colombo, and referred to him as Don before he sailed out.

6. Colom is colon in portuguese and is not anything to do with Colombo. They have different meanings between portuguese spanish vs italian colombo

https://youtu.be/nC5KMvf2Llk


https://youtu.be/u0yoVsZfypQ


https://youtu.be/0YjngFYwX1s

In addition its believed when the jews were being persecuted in spain for fake converting to christianity that he smuggled some to the new world world.
Also many of his crew were portuguese

Nelju
12-06-2022, 11:30 PM
Expected in Iberians or descendants.

HelloGuys
12-06-2022, 11:41 PM
This company is not very reliable, you should see the results of some of my family, those are horrible.

Kriptc06
12-06-2022, 11:45 PM
It's west africa

Eurafricanid
12-06-2022, 11:46 PM
Expected in Iberians or descendants.

Bruh, it doesn't make sense, I'm half SSAfrican, and everywhere else seems to agree.

ex:
https://i.imgur.com/E79sl6H.jpg

And btw, as you can see there it says 51% Iberian

https://i.imgur.com/UeWw55J.png

Kriptc06
12-06-2022, 11:51 PM
Bruh, it doesn't make sense, I'm half SSAfrican, and everywhere else seems to agree.

ex:
https://i.imgur.com/E79sl6H.jpg

And btw, as you can see there it says 51% Iberian

https://i.imgur.com/UeWw55J.png

48 here vs 35 in FTDNA, so you see, west africa is misread as north africa

Beowulf
12-06-2022, 11:56 PM
mine:

116613


edit: how can i show correctly a image?

axel.aleman
12-06-2022, 11:56 PM
Expected in Iberians or descendants.

Entre esos usted

Kriptc06
12-06-2022, 11:58 PM
mine:
how can i show correctly a image?


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116613&d=1670374483

like this, quote for code

Beowulf
12-06-2022, 11:59 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116613&d=1670374483

like this, quote for code

thanks


116614

axel.aleman
12-06-2022, 11:59 PM
Los míos con esa página son aún más extraños

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?341705-Estos-Resultados-son-posibles-FTDNA-v3

16% de MENA, mayormente levantino y solo 4% de norteafricano

Eurafricanid
12-07-2022, 12:01 AM
mine:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116614&d=1670374759


edit: how can i show correctly a image?

Is this good, according to your actual ancestry?

Beowulf
12-07-2022, 12:05 AM
Is this good, according to your actual ancestry?

yes only that some dna companies show my english as french or dutch like this i suppose is because i have southern english and french ancestry both my grabdfather shows central euro and high irish

Kriptc06
12-07-2022, 12:10 AM
this is me, I'm tested in both companies, it's not an upload. ftdna is trash for me

https://i.imgur.com/NR0wgvh.png

vader
12-07-2022, 12:46 AM
I used to get some nafri on that site but now I'm 100% European on it.

Eurafricanid
12-07-2022, 01:32 AM
I used to get some nafri on that site but now I'm 100% European on it.

Seems that they're northern shifted, IMO.

vader
12-07-2022, 01:49 AM
Seems that they're northern shifted, IMO.

yep. Well actually it does say <1% West africa so maybe not rlly 100%, although that's what the result has. Also malta has nafri in it surely.

https://i.imgur.com/A7txYPJ.png

Mixdguy17
12-07-2022, 05:54 AM
FTDNA is trash imo

happycow
12-07-2022, 07:06 AM
FTDNA wasn't all that bad for me. actually think its the most accurate out of ancestry and 23andme in my case.

Gaditanian
12-07-2022, 03:05 PM
really ? it's a myth

It's history, check this

https://dukespace.lib.duke.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/10161/7193/OHalley_duke_0066D_11863.pdf?sequence=1

Laredo
07-10-2023, 06:24 AM
I think we can all agree FTDNA Isn't the great, In my case the Amerindian doesn't Increased remains the same both on Gedmatch and Yourdnaportal.

That problem Is on Gedmatch gives me some Asian percentage noises thus reducing Euro. Will see what I would score on the new test.