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Flashball
12-09-2022, 05:35 AM
Results of two samples native to Savoy, one of which is from the nobility it would seem

One is from Duingt and the other from Annecy

http://www.cartesfrance.fr/carte-commune/74/74108/carte-relief-lambert-grandes-villes-Duingt.jpg

https://ontheworldmap.com/france/city/annecy/annecy-location-on-the-france-map.jpg

Haplogroups for one
H
R-M167

For the other (female):
K1a

According the guy
"Both can traced their genealogy over 500 years in Savoy.
One is a Savoy noble so the genealogy is known"


Man
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjXfaaQXgAI2sgI?format=png&name=900x900

Woman
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjXfdQwXkAAIhuJ?format=png&name=small


Sim g25
Savoie1AirmanatilAujmAA_scaled,0.132035,0.137096,0 .04186,0.013566,0.044008,0.003626,-0.002585,-0.005769,0.017385,0.024055,-0.002598,-0.003597,-0.016055,-0.003303,0.0057,0.007425,0.019688,0,-0.010182,0.001751,-0.001872,-0.007296,-0.000739,0.008796,-0.002515
Savoie2AirmanatilAujmFI_scaled,0.126344,0.146236,0 .049403,0.008721,0.047393,0.000837,-0.003995,-0.004846,0.011249,0.02278,-0.005359,0.006594,-0.013825,-0.010459,0.002036,0.001856,-0.002868,0.009122,0.011564,0.001251,-0.002121,0.004204,0.001479,-0.005784,-0.002754

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjXfGBDXkAEOm7V?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjXe4TBWYAYfGxI?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjXfwtSXoAEgTeL?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjXfCFhWIAEmP01?format=jpg&name=large


According to a friend (J.S.)
"FI is clearly French like
the other is a weird mix: AA is 65% Sud France like"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjXf4RdWQAEVIXp?format=png&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjXf6YcX0AA61as?format=png&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjXf8fyWQAAbg4u?format=png&name=small

Flashball
12-09-2022, 05:58 AM
Gedmatch results

AA
1 North_Atlantic 41.89
2 West_Med 23.2
3 Baltic 16.32
4 East_Med 11.92
5 West_Asian 2.63
6 South_Asian 1.82
7 Amerindian 1.63
8 Oceanian 0.5
9 East_Asian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cataluna 5.31
2 French 5.31
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.16
4 Portuguese 7.29
5 Spanish_Galicia 7.43
6 Spanish_Valencia 7.44
7 Spanish_Cantabria 7.79
8 Southwest_French 8.02
9 Spanish_Murcia 8.27
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.69
11 Spanish_Extremadura 8.97
12 Spanish_Aragon 9.99
13 Spanish_Andalucia 10.06
14 South_Dutch 10.39
15 West_German 10.63
16 North_Italian 12.92
17 Southeast_English 14.2
18 Southwest_English 15.05
19 Austrian 15.91
20 Orcadian 16.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.9% Spanish_Valencia + 25.1% Swedish @ 2.26
2 77.8% Spanish_Valencia + 22.2% North_Swedish @ 2.28
3 71.3% Spanish_Valencia + 28.7% North_German @ 2.39
4 71.9% Spanish_Valencia + 28.1% Danish @ 2.55
5 59.6% Spanish_Valencia + 40.4% West_German @ 2.56
6 74.2% Spanish_Valencia + 25.8% Norwegian @ 2.56
7 59% Spanish_Valencia + 41% South_Dutch @ 2.58
8 72% Spanish_Valencia + 28% North_Dutch @ 2.73
9 84.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 15.5% North_Swedish @ 2.76
10 86.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 13.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.79
11 81.4% Spanish_Valencia + 18.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.87
12 66.9% Spanish_Valencia + 33.1% Southeast_English @ 2.87
13 89% Spanish_Cataluna + 11% Estonian @ 2.91
14 82.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.3% Swedish @ 2.96
15 79.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 20.3% East_German @ 2.96
16 70.7% Spanish_Valencia + 29.3% Orcadian @ 2.97
17 88.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 11.1% Finnish @ 3.01
18 71.8% Spanish_Valencia + 28.2% East_German @ 3.02
19 70% Spanish_Cataluna + 30% West_German @ 3.03
20 80.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 19.9% North_German @ 3.06

1 North_Sea 29.69
2 Atlantic 24.31
3 West_Med 20.01
4 East_Med 9.09
5 Baltic 6.44
6 Eastern_Euro 5.74
7 South_Asian 1.56
8 West_Asian 1.55
9 Amerindian 1.32
10 Oceanian 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 6.59
2 Spanish_Galicia 7.79
3 Portuguese 8.85
4 Spanish_Cataluna 8.86
5 South_Dutch 10.61
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.68
7 West_German 10.76
8 Spanish_Extremadura 10.94
9 Spanish_Murcia 11.01
10 Spanish_Cantabria 11.93
11 Southwest_English 12.55
12 Spanish_Valencia 13.23
13 North_Italian 13.66
14 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.67
15 Southwest_French 13.69
16 Southeast_English 14.14
17 Spanish_Aragon 14.42
18 Spanish_Andalucia 14.6
19 North_German 16.34
20 Irish 16.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% Orcadian + 32.4% Sardinian @ 4.01
2 64.3% West_Norwegian + 35.7% Sardinian @ 4.09
3 77.8% West_German + 22.2% Sardinian @ 4.7
4 68% North_Dutch + 32% Sardinian @ 4.71
5 67.8% Danish + 32.2% Sardinian @ 4.74
6 71.8% Southeast_English + 28.2% Sardinian @ 4.74
7 65.7% Norwegian + 34.3% Sardinian @ 4.83
8 74.6% Southwest_English + 25.4% Sardinian @ 4.9
9 67.8% West_Scottish + 32.2% Sardinian @ 4.92
10 76.1% Spanish_Galicia + 23.9% West_Norwegian @ 5.17
11 72.1% Portuguese + 27.9% West_Norwegian @ 5.17
12 61.9% Spanish_Galicia + 38.1% West_German @ 5.21
13 56.8% Portuguese + 43.2% West_German @ 5.23
14 68.5% Irish + 31.5% Sardinian @ 5.35
15 75.6% Spanish_Galicia + 24.4% Norwegian @ 5.36
16 71.4% Portuguese + 28.6% Norwegian @ 5.38
17 74% Spanish_Galicia + 26% Orcadian @ 5.42
18 90.2% French + 9.8% Sardinian @ 5.47
19 67.1% Spanish_Galicia + 32.9% Southwest_English @ 5.5
20 57.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 42.9% West_German @ 5.52



FI

1 North_Atlantic 40.38
2 West_Med 25.75
3 East_Med 14.41
4 Baltic 13.18
5 West_Asian 3.93
6 Amerindian 1.57
7 Red_Sea 0.39
8 Sub-Saharan 0.34
9 Oceanian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cataluna 3
2 Spanish_Valencia 3.92
3 Portuguese 4.75
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 4.93
5 Spanish_Murcia 4.98
6 Spanish_Extremadura 5.66
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.66
8 Spanish_Galicia 5.79
9 Spanish_Cantabria 6.05
10 Spanish_Andalucia 6.17
11 Southwest_French 7.24
12 Spanish_Aragon 7.53
13 French 8.45
14 North_Italian 9.63
15 South_Dutch 14.27
16 West_German 14.35
17 Tuscan 15.89
18 Southeast_English 18.35
19 French_Basque 18.5
20 Southwest_English 19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.7% Spanish_Valencia + 14.3% Austrian @ 2.29
2 87.3% Spanish_Valencia + 12.7% Hungarian @ 2.3
3 81.8% Spanish_Valencia + 18.2% West_German @ 2.33
4 87.1% Spanish_Valencia + 12.9% East_German @ 2.39
5 98.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 1.4% Karitiana @ 2.47
6 98.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 1.5% Pima @ 2.48
7 98.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 1.5% Mayan @ 2.49
8 92.5% Spanish_Valencia + 7.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.5
9 93% Spanish_Cataluna + 7% Bulgarian @ 2.51
10 91.1% Spanish_Valencia + 8.9% South_Polish @ 2.51
11 82.4% Spanish_Valencia + 17.6% South_Dutch @ 2.54
12 92.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.3% Romanian @ 2.54
13 98.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 1.6% North_Amerindian @ 2.54
14 89.7% Spanish_Valencia + 10.3% Croatian @ 2.56
15 92.6% Spanish_Valencia + 7.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.56
16 88% Spanish_Valencia + 12% North_German @ 2.57
17 93.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 6.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.57
18 92% Spanish_Valencia + 8% Polish @ 2.58
19 91.7% Spanish_Valencia + 8.3% Ukrainian @ 2.59
20 91.5% Spanish_Valencia + 8.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.6

1 North_Sea 26.01
2 Atlantic 25.91
3 West_Med 21.16
4 East_Med 10.86
5 Baltic 8.35
6 West_Asian 3.71
7 Eastern_Euro 1.55
8 Amerindian 1.34
9 Red_Sea 0.9
10 Sub-Saharan 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cataluna 5.9
2 Spanish_Galicia 5.91
3 Portuguese 6.19
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.11
5 Spanish_Murcia 7.82
6 Spanish_Extremadura 7.97
7 French 8.03
8 Spanish_Cantabria 9.52
9 Spanish_Valencia 9.89
10 North_Italian 9.92
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.55
12 Spanish_Andalucia 10.87
13 Southwest_French 11.19
14 Spanish_Aragon 11.38
15 South_Dutch 12.86
16 West_German 13.87
17 Southwest_English 15.56
18 Tuscan 15.64
19 Southeast_English 17.01
20 Serbian 17.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.7% French + 17.3% Sardinian @ 4.73
2 62.7% Irish + 37.3% Sardinian @ 4.94
3 80.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 19.9% West_German @ 4.95
4 65.5% Southeast_English + 34.5% Sardinian @ 4.96
5 78.1% Portuguese + 21.9% West_German @ 5.03
6 62% North_Dutch + 38% Sardinian @ 5.15
7 61.9% West_Scottish + 38.1% Sardinian @ 5.19
8 64.5% Portuguese + 35.5% French @ 5.2
9 87.1% Portuguese + 12.9% West_Norwegian @ 5.22
10 69.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 30.6% French @ 5.25
11 87.2% Portuguese + 12.8% Swedish @ 5.28
12 50.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 49.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.29
13 61.4% Orcadian + 38.6% Sardinian @ 5.29
14 85.6% Portuguese + 14.4% North_Dutch @ 5.31
15 82.1% Portuguese + 17.9% Southwest_English @ 5.31
16 87% Portuguese + 13% Norwegian @ 5.31
17 73.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 26.9% West_German @ 5.33
18 69.1% Spanish_Murcia + 30.9% West_German @ 5.33
19 89.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 10.1% West_Norwegian @ 5.33
20 86.2% Portuguese + 13.8% Orcadian @ 5.36

Flashball
12-09-2022, 07:27 AM
AA in black
FI in red

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fjhan7LWIAEdynP?format=png&name=small

J.S.
12-09-2022, 01:20 PM
FI

1 North_Atlantic 40.38
2 West_Med 25.75
3 East_Med 14.41
4 Baltic 13.18
5 West_Asian 3.93
6 Amerindian 1.57
7 Red_Sea 0.39
8 Sub-Saharan 0.34
9 Oceanian 0.06

I am not used to gedmatch, but it seems a bit hight for a French, doesn't it? What is the common range?

Eurafricanid
12-09-2022, 08:14 PM
Just for fun :)

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 1.0231% / 0.01023055
47.4 SSA
25.2 Italian_Tuscany
25.2 Savoy
2.2 Amerindian

Flashball
12-10-2022, 04:07 AM
FI

1 North_Atlantic 40.38
2 West_Med 25.75
3 East_Med 14.41
4 Baltic 13.18
5 West_Asian 3.93
6 Amerindian 1.57
7 Red_Sea 0.39
8 Sub-Saharan 0.34
9 Oceanian 0.06

I am not used to gedmatch, but it seems a bit hight for a French, doesn't it? What is the common range?

I don't know to be honest, he don't get any Tepecik thing on G25...

J.S.
12-10-2022, 10:03 AM
I don't know to be honest, he don't get any Tepecik thing on G25...

Well, it is a bit weird both of them are high on East-Med component.

Jingle Bell
12-10-2022, 12:08 PM
Well, it is a bit weird both of them are high on East-Med component.

Prob G25 is misreading some of CHG, or maybe they got more Roman imperial ancestry?

Eurafricanid
12-10-2022, 12:47 PM
Prob G25 is misreading some of CHG, or maybe they got more Roman imperial ancestry?

It's GedMatch the place where they're getting the extra East Med, not G25

Jingle Bell
12-10-2022, 01:47 PM
It's GedMatch the place where they're getting the extra East Med, not G25

Oh yeah i mean Gedmatch lmao, my bad