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Peterski
12-12-2022, 06:24 PM
G25 coordinates of 9 native West Polish samples and mine for comparison (I'm also Western Polish):

[first 8 samples are real G25 coordinates and the last one is simulated from K36]


PL_54°41′N_17°21′E_Slovincian,0.137726,0.141159,0. 073161,0.059432,0.047701,0.021753,0.012456,0.01107 6,-0.004295,-0.02442,-0.00747,-0.001349,0.006838,0.023533,-0.006379,-0.005038,-0.00678,0.000507,0.00905,-0.006003,-0.004367,-0.003833,0.001725,0.001807,0.000239
PL_54°9′N_18°0′E_Kashubian,0.133173,0.12491,0.0799 5,0.067184,0.045547,0.023148,0.00282,0.014076,0.00 0205,-0.024966,0.000487,-0.005845,0.016353,0.018441,0.00095,-0.009944,-0.017602,-0.002914,0.003771,0.004252,0.001248,-0.008285,0.008627,-0.000723,-0.002155
PL_53°48′N_18°17′E_Kociewie,0.126344,0.121864,0.07 203,0.058786,0.037545,0.023148,0.013866,0.004615,-0.000205,-0.018588,-0.004709,-0.004046,0.002973,0.010184,-0.003664,0.010607,0.022687,0.002027,0.005279,0.007 003,-0.003119,-0.00643,0.013064,0.00012,-0.001916
PL_52°44′N_16°00′E_Notec_Forest_region,0.137726,0. 13405,0.07467,0.062339,0.046778,0.027052,0.009635, 0.00923,-0.002863,-0.017677,-0.005846,-0.01109,0.007879,0.017478,-0.007329,0.005304,0.002738,0.003801,0.000126,0.001 626,0.00287,0.001731,0.00037,-0.005784,0.002515
PL_52°37′N_18°10′E_Kuyavia,0.125205,0.13405,0.0716 53,0.04845,0.039392,0.021753,0.00517,0.009461,0.00 3272,-0.014032,-0.010718,-0.006744,0.011298,0.018166,-0.002579,0.003713,0.000391,-0.00038,0.001885,-0.003877,-0.009608,0.001607,0.002218,0.000964,-0.005269
PL_51°49′N_17°27′E_Kozmin_Wlkp,0.12862,0.137096,0. 061471,0.053295,0.044316,0.018686,0.00799,0.009692 ,0.001023,-0.017495,-0.002111,-0.004646,0.010852,0.016377,-0.006515,-0.012066,-0.009257,0.004054,0.000754,-0.005753,-0.004866,0.001237,0.002342,0.001205,-0.002155
PL_51°34′N_17°40′E_Odolanow,0.135449,0.13405,0.067 127,0.057817,0.044008,0.022869,0.008695,0.013615,0 .002659,-0.017495,-0.003085,-0.001049,0.01442,0.021882,-0.00665,0.008221,0.00339,-0.002154,0.004902,5e-04,-0.003868,-0.006306,0.005546,0.002289,-0.002275
PL_50°30′N_18°17′E_Silesian,0.129758,0.129988,0.06 7127,0.05491,0.03693,0.023427,0.006345,0.014999,0. 000205,-0.014943,-0.00341,-0.001349,0.006244,0.012524,-0.002172,0.004508,0.024121,-0.002534,-0.008296,0.003502,-0.002496,-0.007666,0.00419,0.011809,-0.003233
PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian_simulated,0.1321959,0. 1283217,0.0686638,0.0515452,0.0400457,0.0189262,0. 0087155,0.0110174,0.0032271,-0.0115795,-0.0026871,-0.0052869,0.0105712,0.0112159,-0.0091517,0.0005233,0.0040529,-0.0009118,0.0012264,-0.0011446,-0.0040706,-0.0008913,0.0032345,-0.0011953,-0.0013608

Peterski_scaled,0.133173,0.140143,0.065619,0.05846 3,0.033852,0.022869,0.006815,0.009923,0.000409,-0.018041,-0.003897,-0.001798,0.010109,0.00867,-0.007465,-0.000133,0.002999,0.0019,-0.00088,-0.001251,-0.009982,-0.000742,0.006409,0.006145,-0.002874

Map showing origin of the 9 samples vs. the distribution of Polish people ca. 1800s-1900:

https://i.imgur.com/4TCytit.png

Russki
12-12-2022, 07:40 PM
"Poles and Russians are the same"

Target: Russki
Distance: 0.0173% / 0.01729447
63.5 Estonian
31.9 PL_51°34′N_17°40′E_Odolanow
4.6 PL_54°41′N_17°21′E_Slovincian


https://sun1-24.userapi.com/impg/-CvVwb88_nwvlkPK_FLL7Tfc3lacjVAoyZns9Q/BnI1TPTU0eU.jpg?size=500x300&quality=95&sign=9a4771f235899445c305f4634e0c2ef8&type=album

Peterski
12-12-2022, 09:38 PM
"Poles and Russians are the same"

Target: Russki
Distance: 0.0173% / 0.01729447
63.5 Estonian
31.9 PL_51°34′N_17°40′E_Odolanow
4.6 PL_54°41′N_17°21′E_Slovincian

https://sun1-24.userapi.com/impg/-CvVwb88_nwvlkPK_FLL7Tfc3lacjVAoyZns9Q/BnI1TPTU0eU.jpg?size=500x300&quality=95&sign=9a4771f235899445c305f4634e0c2ef8&type=album

You can see that you are not close to Estonians but to Balts when you use K36:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?365505-Russki-DNA-results&p=7620836&viewfull=1#post7620836

The problem with G25 is that it does not have the "Fennoscandian" component:

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm


Nice results. Genotek offers very good raw data files:

K36:

Kit number: GV8270348

SNPs used in this evaluation: 164173.


<tbody>
Population



Amerindian
0.24 Pct


Arabian
-


Armenian
-


Basque
1.36 Pct


Central_African
-


Central_Euro
7.34 Pct


East_African
-


East_Asian
-


East_Balkan
9.34 Pct


East_Central_Asian
-


East_Central_Euro
26.46 Pct


East_Med
-


Eastern_Euro
19.5 Pct


Fennoscandian
16.83 Pct (= much less than Estonians have)


French
1.74 Pct


Iberian
1.24 Pct


Indo-Chinese
-


Italian
-


Malayan
-


Near_Eastern
-


North_African
-


North_Atlantic
4.82 Pct


North_Caucasian
2.03 Pct


North_Sea
7.6 Pct


Northeast_African
-


Oceanian
-


Omotic
-


Pygmy
-


Siberian
-


South_Asian
-


South_Central_Asian
-


South_Chinese
-


Volga-Ural
1.49 Pct


West_African
-


West_Caucasian
-


West_Med
-

</tbody>

Gergő Marosvári
12-19-2022, 09:19 PM
My results with using these Polish samples and all the official Hungarian G25 individual samples:

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.3632% / 0.01363160
54.6 Hungarian:NA15207
33.0 Hungarian:NA15204
9.2 Hungarian:NA15199
3.2 PL_50°30′N_18°17′E_Silesian

Peterski
03-17-2023, 06:56 PM
Here are actual (not simulated) coordinates for PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian:


PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian,0.133173,0.131003,0.07 3916,0.044897,0.038161,0.015339,0.00282,0.011076,0 .000409,-0.014943,0,0,-0.001933,0.017065,-0.011943,-0.009679,-0.002347,0.002534,0.004777,0.00075,-0.000624,0.002968,0.004314,0.002289,0.002275

mariusz99
03-18-2023, 10:32 AM
Interesting. I have closer distance to BaltoSlavic, Germanic and Celtic in ancient calculator, but I'm only 4% Celtic according to calculator.


Target: PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian
Distance: 1.9642% / 0.01964246
45.2 (Balto-)Slavic
19.8 Celtic-like
14.0 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
13.2 Germanic
4.8 Balkan
1.6 Finnic-like
1.4 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009

Without Celtic:

Target: PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian
Distance: 2.0076% / 0.02007573
53.4 (Balto-)Slavic
22.4 Germanic
15.2 Balkan
9.0 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011


and me:

Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.4536% / 0.01453611
44.6 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
25.8 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
24.0 Germanic
2.2 Turkic
2.0 (Balto-)Slavic
1.4 Balkan

mariusz99
03-18-2023, 11:57 AM
Here are actual (not simulated) coordinates for PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian:


PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian,0.133173,0.131003,0.07 3916,0.044897,0.038161,0.015339,0.00282,0.011076,0 .000409,-0.014943,0,0,-0.001933,0.017065,-0.011943,-0.009679,-0.002347,0.002534,0.004777,0.00075,-0.000624,0.002968,0.004314,0.002289,0.002275

Do you have maybe some Eastern Polish samples for comparison?