Leon to Badajoz taxonomy

[Defcon2]

Another chapter on comparison between Spanish regions.


Leon
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Bandera_de_Le%C3%B3n.svg/1280px-Bandera_de_Le%C3%B3n.svg.png

Private school from Leon.

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Badajoz
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Bandera_y_Escudo_de_la_Provincia_de_Badajoz%2C_Esp a%C3%B1a.jpg

The school is located in the neighborhood where my parents lived.

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[Cristiano viejo]

Too many immigrants.

[Defcon2]

Too many immigrants.

Yep, I chose a private school in Leon's case but there were still immigrants. :noidea:

The Badajoz school neighborhood is known for having many gypsies but I filtered the photos as much as possible.

[Cristiano viejo]

Yep, I chose a private school in Leon's case but there were still immigrants. :noidea:

The Badajoz school neighborhood is known for having many gypsies but I filtered the photos as much as possible.

What is your obsession for linking Castilla y León with Extremadura?
Everybody knows Extremadurans are Andalusians in denial.

Funny fact: this week a semi-Andalusian coworker of mine (well, he is born here but one of his grandparents is from Sevilla, and he, my coworker, is supporter of Betis, loves Sevilla, the flamenco etc... ie he acts like a total Gypsy xD) making jokes along me, got angry when I called him Extremaduran since his Castilian and Leonese family is from the deep south of the region and maybe from Northern Extremadura.
When I said him "what is wrong with Extremadurans?", he answered "Extremadurans want to be Andalusians but they can not" :pound:

[gixajo]

What is your obsession for linking Castilla y León with Extremadura?
Everybody knows Extremadurans are Andalusians in denial.

Funny fact: this week a semi-Andalusian coworker of mine (well, he is born here but one of his grandparents is from Sevilla, and he, my coworker, is supporter of Betis, loves Sevilla, the flamenco etc... ie he acts like a total Gypsy xD) making jokes along me, got angry when I called him Extremaduran since his Castilian and Leonese family is from the deep south of the region and maybe from Northern Extremadura.
When I said him "what is wrong with Extremadurans?", he answered "Extremadurans want to be Andalusians but they can not" :pound:

North Extremadura has much more to do with West Castilla y León , specially with Salamanca, than to Andalusia.

But many Badajoz province parts, and some from Cáceres , yes, have a lot of similarities with Andalusia.

[Cristiano viejo]

North Extremadura has much more to do with West Castilla y León , specially with Salamanca, than to Andalusia.
I know. Except accent. As a pure Castilian speaker I dont distinguish between North Extremaduran accent and the Andalusian. I know LOT of people from North Extremadura and their accent is disgusting to me.


But many Badajoz province parts, and some from Cáceres , yes, have a lot of similarities with Andalusia.

Really? I say that just to troll Defcon. No idea, honestly.

[Defcon2]

What is your obsession for linking Castilla y León with Extremadura?
Everybody knows Extremadurans are Andalusians in denial.

Funny fact: this week a semi-Andalusian coworker of mine (well, he is born here but one of his grandparents is from Sevilla, and he, my coworker, is supporter of Betis, loves Sevilla, the flamenco etc... ie he acts like a total Gypsy xD) making jokes along me, got angry when I called him Extremaduran since his Castilian and Leonese family is from the deep south of the region and maybe from Northern Extremadura.
When I said him "what is wrong with Extremadurans?", he answered "Extremadurans want to be Andalusians but they can not" :pound:

If I compare both populations it is to see the differences, not the similarities, or at least I think so. No one takes polls and collects data to find out how equal is it.

[gixajo]

I know. Except accent. As a pure Castilian speaker I dont distinguish between North Extremaduran accent and the Andalusian. I know LOT of people from North Extremadura and their accent is disgusting to me.

Really? I say that just to troll Defcon. No idea, honestly.

Yo tampoco es que conozca en profundidad Extremadura.

Extremaduran traditional Folklore is more similar to Leonese and even Galician than to Andalusian one...

[Cristiano viejo]

If I compare both populations it is to see the differences, not the similarities, or at least I think so. No one takes polls and collects data to find out how equal is it.

True, you Extremadurans look like an Andalusia-Portuguese combo, rather than Castilian and Leonese.

[Defcon2]

Yo tampoco es que conozca en profundidad Extremadura.

Extremaduran traditional Folklore is more similar to Leonese and even Galician than to Andalusian one...

Neither did I, nor did I know that there was a language called Castuo that is similar to Asturian.


True, you Extremadurans look like an Andalusia-Portuguese combo, rather than Castilian and Leonese.

Yes, and what does it mean to be a Andalusian-Portuguese combo and how is it different from Castilian-Leonese?

[Cristiano viejo]

Neither did I, nor did I know that there was a language called Castuo that is similar to Asturian.

There are several DIALECTS from León to Extremadura, some even in Portugal (specifically in Miranda do Douro). In fact all of these are just Castilian bad spoken, very few used and mostly by +90 years old people.


Yes, and what does it mean to be a Andalusian-Portuguese combo and how is it different from Castilian-Leonese?

It means be Extremaduran :p

[Defcon2]

There are several DIALECTS from León to Extremadura, some even in Portugal (specifically in Miranda do Douro). In fact all of these are just Castilian bad spoken, very few used and mostly by +90 years old people.

It means be Extremaduran :p

Have you already granted Leon the right of self-determination of his nation or do the rest of the Castilian provinces deny it? :p

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

There are several DIALECTS from León to Extremadura, some even in Portugal (specifically in Miranda do Douro). In fact all of these are just Castilian bad spoken, very few used and mostly by +90 years old people.

Mirandês is an Asturleonese language, not "bad spoken" Castilian.

Mirandês:

Muitas lhénguas ténen proua de ls sous pergaminos antigos, de la lhiteratura screbida hai cientos d'anhos i de scritores hai muito afamados, hoije bandeiras dessas lhénguas. Mas outras hai que nun puoden tener proua de nada desso, cumo ye l causo de la lhéngua mirandesa.

Português:

Muitas línguas têm orgulho dos seus pergaminhos antigos, da literatura escrita há centenas de anos e de escritores muito famosos, hoje bandeiras dessas línguas. Mas há outras que não podem ter orgulho de nada disso, como é o caso da língua mirandesa.

Leonês:

Muitas llinguas tien arguyu de los sous pergaminos antiguos, de la lliteratura escrita van cientos d'annos y d'escritores bien famosos; guei bandeiras d'eisas llinguas. Peru hai outras que nun pueden tener arguyu de nada d'eisu, cumu ye'l casu de la llingua mirandesa.

Castelhano:

Muchas lenguas tienen orgullo de sus antiguos pergaminos, de literatura escrita hace cientos de años y de escritores muy famosos, hoy banderas de esas lenguas. Pero hay otras que no pueden tener orgullo de nada de eso, como es el caso de la lengua mirandesa.


What is interesting is that even though all West Iberian languages are closely related, Castilian seems more similar to Portuguese than Mirandês in some instances, there's no doubt that it is mostly related to other dialects of the Astur-Leonese group and not just Portuguese\Castillian, in its own unique way. Leonese while very similar seems closer to Castilian in certain aspects ("peru" instead of "mas"). In Mirandese they say proua instead of orgulho but I understand it, since proa in Portuguese can be used as a synonym of orgulho. Leonese used the word guei instead of hoy. I would have not understood what guei means without having both texts to compare.

[Cristiano viejo]

Have you already granted Leon the right of self-determination of his nation or do the rest of the Castilian provinces deny it? :p
Unlike you, semi Andalusian charnego, I have TONS of family in the old Kingdom of León, specifically in Zamora and Salamanca, and all of them shit in the Leonese self-determination :thumb001:


Mirandês is an Asturleonese language, not "bad spoken" Castilian.

I was not referring to Mirandés there.

Have you been in Miranda? me yes, several times. Not that they speak a bad spoken Castilian, but they speak Castilian perfectly :D

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I was not referring to Mirandés there.

Have you been in Miranda? me yes, several times. Not that they speak a bad spoken Castilian, but they speak Castilian perfectly :D

Miranda do Douro is next to the Spanish border, so it does not surprise me if they are able to speak Castilian or understand it if even I can understand 90% of it. Their native language however (at least those who can speak it), is the Mirandese language, and it is different. I am not sure if all Spaniards would be able to understand it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gnJtZFyzZA&t=52s

[Defcon2]

Unlike you, semi Andalusian charnego, I have TONS of family in the old Kingdom of León, specifically in Zamora and Salamanca, and all of them shit in the Leonese self-determination :thumb001:


Alfonso IX would not agree with you here sorry, btw he was born the result of a Leon-Portuguese combo, in the end you will be right. :rolleyes:

[Cristiano viejo]

Miranda do Douro is next to the Spanish border, so it does not surprise me if they are able to speak Castilian or understand it if even I can understand 90% of it. Their native language however (at least those who can speak it), is the Mirandese language, and it is different. I am not sure if all Spaniards would be able to understand it.

Their language is Portuguese obviously. They speak Spanish because it is a very very touristic place and thousands of Spanish go there daily.


Alfonso IX would not agree with you here sorry, btw he was born the result of a Leon-Portuguese combo, in the end you will be right. :rolleyes:

Royal Houses are bad examples of anything since all of them are the result of many ethnicities. Any Spanish king beyond the year 1000 will have Portuguese origins in a bigger or lesser extent.

Alfonso IX married a Castilian queen, and their son joined forever and ever Castilla and León. God bless him :fpope:

[Oliver109]

Leon people are lighter and more varied, Badajoz people have more coarse features, that applies for everyone and not just the immigrants, less alpines and atlantids as well and very few blondes.

[Beowulf]

Leon people are lighter and more varied, Badajoz people have more coarse features, that applies for everyone and not just the immigrants, less alpines and atlantids as well and very few blondes.

coarse? what's that? :P

[Beowulf]

Leon people are lighter and more varied, Badajoz people have more coarse features, that applies for everyone and not just the immigrants, less alpines and atlantids as well and very few blondes.

coarse? what's that? :p

[Defcon2]

Leon people are lighter and more varied, Badajoz people have more coarse features, that applies for everyone and not just the immigrants, less alpines and atlantids as well and very few blondes.

Yep, Leon are more similar to Asturians.

[Oliver109]

Yep, Leon are more similar to Asturians.

Yeah, it seems that the further southwest in Iberia you go the more darker the phenotypes, perhaps it is because of the environment, you have the warmer lands and evergreen trees of the Dehesa, a very different environment to all the rest of Europe.

[Cristiano viejo]

coarse? what's that? :P
Anthrotardisms, you know :D


Yep, Leon are more similar to Asturians.

But Leonese and Asturians plus Castilians, repopulated Extremadura, you know. You are our descendants :D

[Defcon2]

But Leonese and Asturians plus Castilians, repopulated Extremadura, you know. You are our descendants :D

This does not mean that we share phenotype, assuming that only a small percentage of Leonese or Asturians generated descendants.

[Cristiano viejo]

This does not mean that we share phenotype, assuming that only a small percentage of Leonese or Asturians generated descendants.
nonsense. With who more they could mix? :rolleyes: when they repopulated Extremadura the Moors were expelled.

[Defcon2]

nonsense. With who more they could mix? :rolleyes: when they repopulated Extremadura the Moors were expelled.

With other Spaniards from the north or with people who converted to Catholicism, but even so there would continue to be a phenotypic difference because the entire population of Leon was not "transferred or transplanted" in the recently conquered place.

It is as if you send only British and Swedish to populate an entire planet, the consequence would be to exclude the phenotypic variety of the rest of humans.

[Marshall Theodore]

coarse? what's that? :P

Coarse = Archaic trait

[Cristiano viejo]

Salamanca

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[Oliver109]

Salamanca

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Lol the girl in grey behind the white girl wearing a mask could pass in Egypt.

[Cristiano viejo]

Lol the girl in grey behind the white girl wearing a mask could pass in Egypt.

The rest in UK :bump2::bump2::bump2:

[Oliver109]

The rest in UK :bump2::bump2::bump2:

Are you sure they are all Spanish? i see a dark guy behind the girl i mentioned