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Vanily
12-27-2022, 11:31 AM
11 Group pics from France (South-Central area - Southern Auvergne)
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Beowulf
12-27-2022, 11:32 AM
ya tardabas en hacer un Thread, eh pillín? :rolleyes:

Vanily
12-27-2022, 11:34 AM
11 Group pics from Spain (Central area - Madrid, Toledo, Avila)
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Vanily
12-27-2022, 11:36 AM
ya tardabas en hacer un Thread, eh pillín? :rolleyes:

"OH NO GROUP PICS I CAN'T CHERRYPICK BLOND BLUE EYED SPANIARDS ANYMORE! EVERYONE WILL SEE THE TRUTH! QUICK, HIDE THE THREAD! ABORT!"
- average Spaniard in The Apricity

Beowulf
12-27-2022, 11:38 AM
"OH NO GROUP PICS I CAN'T CHERRYPICK BLOND BLUE EYED SPANIARDS ANYMORE! EVERYONE WILL SEE THE TRUTH! QUICK, HIDE THE THREAD! ABORT!"
- average Spaniard in The Apricity

Y ahora que eh dicho? solo dije que ya tardabas en hacer un thread sabiendo que te peleabas con otros usuarios Ibericos XD

Mortimer
12-27-2022, 11:57 AM
Spanish and French are bros to eatch other

Vanily
12-27-2022, 12:03 PM
Y ahora que eh dicho? solo dije que ya tardabas en hacer un thread sabiendo que te peleabas con otros usuarios Ibericos XD

Unfortunately the behaviour of your countrymen gives all of you a bad name. I recommend to the few good Spaniards to force your mates to come down to reality and stop being deluded self-haters.
And it's not Iberians, it's only Spaniards. I have not seen Portuguese members act like this.

Oliver109
12-27-2022, 12:22 PM
Southern French look similar to french from the north except for less brunn and keltic nordic/borreby influence, Spanish have much longer noses and are more med of course, they often look more similar to the people of Kurdistan in their facial features indeed.

Hoosierboy
12-27-2022, 01:29 PM
Is there a difference between southern France and northern France? I'm confused

Marshall Theodore
12-27-2022, 01:35 PM
they often look more similar to the people of Kurdistan in their facial features indeed.

They dont.

SilverKnight
12-27-2022, 01:40 PM
A guy from a Failed Country (France) telling Spaniards how to think, priceless :rolleyes:

@ the rate France is getting invaded, in 50 years all of those chicks and boys in the first pic will all have brown grandchildren so what's the point :laugh:

Oliver109
12-27-2022, 01:46 PM
Is there a difference between southern France and northern France? I'm confused

It isn't that major a difference, apart from being slightly lighter facial features are generally much the same, only the northern border areas are distinctly different.

Vanily
12-27-2022, 01:54 PM
Is there a difference between southern France and northern France? I'm confused

Not that much except more Med elements in the South and more Subnordid elements in the North.
North-South difference in France are exaggerated because of ethnic minorities who are related to but aren't really French (Bretons, Normans, Alsatians, Corsicans, Catalans, Basques), in addition to the South having more immigrants.
I should add that there is also a West-East difference few people are aware of, the West being more Atlantid and darker and the East more Alpine and lighter.

Septentrion
12-27-2022, 03:06 PM
Is there a difference between southern France and northern France? I'm confused

Yes, of course there is. In terms of pigmentation, the frequency of light eyes and light hair is naturally lower in the south compared to the north. For example, the frequency of blue eyes among ethnic Frenchmen is 30% to 40% range in Normandie and Bretagne, while in the south, it’s the 15% to 20% range. The difference might not be drastically as large as people would like it to be, but it’s there. Those with ginger hair, freckles, green eyes, etc…. are more frequent ( naturally) in the north than in the south. Concerning phenotypes, Northern France is predominantly Subnordid in race, while Southern France has a good Mediterranean presence ( Atlanto-Med or Gracile Med or Paleo-Sardinian). The difference between Southern France and Iberian peninsula or Italy, is that in France there is a much greater proportion of Alpinid and Nordic admixture. As a matter of fact, France has the highest frequency of Atlantids ( Atlanto-Med + Nordid blend) in Europe. The concentration of them is strongest in Atlantic regions.
Northern parts of France has in addition to Subnordid dominance, minorities of Borrebies, Keltic or Hallstatt Nordids, Anglo-Saxons, North Atlantids ( Atlantid + Nordid blend). One also has to put in account that there has a great population movements in our modern times. People moving from the north to the south or vice versa. Modernization tends to reduce the difference that might have been much greater in times past because of easier movement. France is the most diverse country in Western Europe, due to its larger size and geography.

axel.aleman
12-27-2022, 03:10 PM
The Southern French only are slighty lighter than Spaniards

Marshall Theodore
12-27-2022, 03:16 PM
The Southern French only are slighty lighter than Spaniards

And the Spanish set has clearly some immigrants.

Septentrion
12-27-2022, 03:31 PM
Spanish and French are bros to eatch other

That’s true.

Septentrion
12-27-2022, 03:33 PM
11 Group pics from France (South-Central area - Southern Auvergne)
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Let us not exaggerate the difference between Southern France and Northern Spain. It is not that much. They are both Mediterranean regions. There might be more blondish-haired or just fairer-complexioned people in Southern France than Northern Spain. This is true, but reasons are already given in my previous statement. However, the Med race rules here. The rare Baskid phenotype is unique in both southern France and northern Spain.

Septentrion
12-27-2022, 03:40 PM
It isn't that major a difference, apart from being slightly lighter facial features are generally much the same, only the northern border areas are distinctly different.

Oh. What is this? There is a difference. The bluest-eyed departments of France are in the north, while the brownest-eyed departments are in the south. Lower cephalic index than what is average in France is common in the very south of France as well.

Incal
12-27-2022, 04:15 PM
Southern French look similar to french from the north except for less brunn and keltic nordic/borreby influence, Spanish have much longer noses and are more med of course, they often look more similar to the people of Kurdistan in their facial features indeed.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Vanily
12-27-2022, 04:21 PM
A guy from a Failed Country (France) telling Spaniards how to think, priceless :rolleyes:

@ the rate France is getting invaded, in 50 years all of those chicks and boys in the first pic will all have brown grandchildren so what's the point :laugh:

So having grandchildren who look like you is a curse? Damn you're too harsh with yourself.

Vanily
12-27-2022, 04:22 PM
And the Spanish set has clearly some immigrants.

It's nearly impossible to select group pics without immigrants but I've done a good job I think. Anyway the French set has more immigrants.

Vanily
12-27-2022, 04:24 PM
Let us not exaggerate the difference between Southern France and Northern Spain. It is not that much. They are both Mediterranean regions. There might be more blondish-haired or just fairer-complexioned people in Southern France than Northern Spain. This is true, but reasons are already given in my previous statement. However, the Med race rules here. The rare Baskid phenotype is unique in both southern France and northern Spain.

It's Auvergne (South-Central France) vs Central Spain. 1000 km of distance in a straight line.

alnortedelsur
12-27-2022, 04:29 PM
Southern French look similar to french from the north except for less brunn and keltic nordic/borreby influence, Spanish have much longer noses and are more med of course, they often look more similar to the people of Kurdistan in their facial features indeed.

From which page of The Lord of the Rings did you get that? I'm just curious.

Oliver109
12-27-2022, 04:34 PM
From which page of the lord of the rings did you get that? Just curious.

I got it from pages of Coons Races of Europe as well as my general observations on both groups of people, similar cepalhic indexes, similar rates of eye blondism, similar rates of hairiness, similar nasal prominence and facial features.

Defcon2
12-27-2022, 05:23 PM
Correct comparison, the difference between French and Spanish is evident, more Central Euro on one side than on the other.

Hoosierboy
12-28-2022, 04:36 AM
Yes, of course there is. In terms of pigmentation, the frequency of light eyes and light hair is naturally lower in the south compared to the north. For example, the frequency of blue eyes among ethnic Frenchmen is 30% to 40% range in Normandie and Bretagne, while in the south, it’s the 15% to 20% range. The difference might not be drastically as large as people would like it to be, but it’s there. Those with ginger hair, freckles, green eyes, etc…. are more frequent ( naturally) in the north than in the south. Concerning phenotypes, Northern France is predominantly Subnordid in race, while Southern France has a good Mediterranean presence ( Atlanto-Med or Gracile Med or Paleo-Sardinian). The difference between Southern France and Iberian peninsula or Italy, is that in France there is a much greater proportion of Alpinid and Nordic admixture. As a matter of fact, France has the highest frequency of Atlantids ( Atlanto-Med + Nordid blend) in Europe. The concentration of them is strongest in Atlantic regions.
Northern parts of France has in addition to Subnordid dominance, minorities of Borrebies, Keltic or Hallstatt Nordids, Anglo-Saxons, North Atlantids ( Atlantid + Nordid blend). One also has to put in account that there has a great population movements in our modern times. People moving from the north to the south or vice versa. Modernization tends to reduce the difference that might have been much greater in times past because of easier movement. France is the most diverse country in Western Europe, due to its larger size and geography.

Would you say the same for Spain???

Ruggery
12-30-2022, 06:30 PM
I got it from pages of Coons Races of Europe as well as my general observations on both groups of people, similar cepalhic indexes, similar rates of eye blondism, similar rates of hairiness, similar nasal prominence and facial features.

What percentage of Spaniards will look exotic to you and what would be of the French?

Oliver109
12-30-2022, 10:20 PM
What percentage of Spaniards will look exotic to you and what would be of the French?

With Spaniards maybe 25%, French about 3%

Ruggery
12-30-2022, 10:40 PM
With Spaniards maybe 25%, French about 3%

And according to you, the Spaniards are the European group with the most exotics on average?

Laredo
12-30-2022, 10:54 PM
With Spaniards maybe 25%, French about 3%

Are you also Impliying French are genetically closer to Brits?

AA_Excellence
12-30-2022, 11:04 PM
A guy from a Failed Country (France) telling Spaniards how to think, priceless :rolleyes:

@ the rate France is getting invaded, in 50 years all of those chicks and boys in the first pic will all have brown grandchildren so what's the point :laugh:

You need to learn to mind your own business.

Oliver109
12-30-2022, 11:18 PM
And according to you, the Spaniards are the European group with the most exotics on average?

No, Balkan countries are more exotic

Odelia
12-31-2022, 12:01 AM
They dont.
Crypto-Spaniard spotted!

Tooting Carmen
12-31-2022, 12:03 AM
No, Balkan countries are more exotic

In what sense?

Oliver109
12-31-2022, 12:27 AM
In what sense?

some natives seem swarthier than people in Spain or Italy

Tooting Carmen
12-31-2022, 12:29 AM
some natives seem swarthier than people in Spain or Italy

There are more Balkanites who look Turkish/Kavkazian than Italians who look Levantine or Spaniards who look Berber, but the point is the former are closer to Europeans than the latter two groups anyway.

Oliver109
12-31-2022, 12:31 AM
There are more Balkanites who look Turkish/Kavkazian than Italians who look Levantine or Spaniards who look Berber, but the point is the former are closer to Europeans than the latter two groups anyway.

Balkanites still seem quite exotic in some cases, Bulgarians for example are generally held to be a sort of bridge between the darkness of Turkey and the lighter types of the Slavic countries to the north, Albanians can in many cases be dark, same goes for Greeks i think too.

Septentrion
12-31-2022, 01:24 AM
Southern French look similar to french from the north except for less brunn and keltic nordic/borreby influence, Spanish have much longer noses and are more med of course, they often look more similar to the people of Kurdistan in their facial features indeed.

Spanish do not look like Kurds. They predominantly belong to the Mediterranean ( Western), but not to the Orientalid phenotypes of the Middle-East such as the Iranid types which abound in the so-called Kurdistan. Their noses are not as «hooked» as that of Arabs, Kurds, Iranians.

Ruggery
12-31-2022, 03:17 AM
No, Balkan countries are more exotic

What countries in the Balkans? Croatia and Serbia have more exotic people than Spain?

guyinsf
12-31-2022, 03:28 AM
Not that much except more Med elements in the South and more Subnordid elements in the North.
North-South difference in France are exaggerated because of ethnic minorities who are related to but aren't really French (Bretons, Normans, Alsatians, Corsicans, Catalans, Basques), in addition to the South having more immigrants.
I should add that there is also a West-East difference few people are aware of, the West being more Atlantid and darker and the East more Alpine and lighter.

Normans aren't an ethnic minority in France. They are French. I don't speak a different language than French, they speak French. They're not trying to separate from France.