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Dimitri159
12-31-2022, 08:10 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d0/bb/47/d0bb4712f7e3dd6dfe769aa9e76d8a4b.jpg

Beowulf
12-31-2022, 08:32 PM
Looks mostly Dinarid to me

Dimitri159
12-31-2022, 08:36 PM
Looks mostly Dinarid to me

So basically somewhat. Dinarid looks just like a lighter Armenoid. I think this describes her look quite well.

Jingle Bell
12-31-2022, 08:38 PM
Looks mostly Dinarid to me

+1
No surprise since she was of Greek ancestry so

Tsuin
12-31-2022, 08:40 PM
Somewhat

Applesandoranges
12-31-2022, 08:59 PM
She literally looks like the reconstruction of jesus, if he went under a sex-change

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Dimitri159
12-31-2022, 09:01 PM
She literally looks like the reconstruction of jesus, if he went under a sex-change

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And if she was like 10 shades darker.

Beowulf
12-31-2022, 09:02 PM
+1
No surprise since she was of Greek ancestry so

Really? Didn't knew that

Dimitri159
12-31-2022, 09:03 PM
She literally looks like the reconstruction of jesus, if he went under a sex-change

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Alexander as well (sorta):

https://greekreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/out-73.jpg

Jingle Bell
12-31-2022, 09:17 PM
Really? Didn't knew that

"While Cleopatra was born in Egypt, she traced her family origins to Macedonian Greece and Ptolemy I Soter, one of Alexander the Great's generals. Ptolemy reigned Egypt after Alexander's death in 323 B.C., and he launched a dynasty of Greek-speaking rulers that lasted for nearly three centuries."

NSXD60
12-31-2022, 09:27 PM
Cleo and Alex both look like a Gypsy flamenco dancer did their reconstructions.

Odelia
12-31-2022, 09:42 PM
What white passing? Cleopatra was greek, so she was white. and this reconstruction looks greek to me

Dimitri159
12-31-2022, 09:55 PM
Cleo and Alex both look like a Gypsy flamenco dancer did their reconstructions.

Well here she still does not look fully white.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Kleopatra-VII.-Altes-Museum-Berlin1.jpg

So those “gypsies” are quite accurate, not spreading any propaganda.

Immanenz
12-31-2022, 11:16 PM
pretty unlikely she ll get classified as "dinaric" or armenid as she was low vaulted dolicho-mesocephal, maybe Litorid
https://c8.alamy.com/compde/b04g23/cleopatra-vii-philopator-69-v-chr-30-v-chr-letzter-aktiver-herrscher-des-ptolemaischen-konigreichs-agypten-b04g23.jpg

Demhat
12-31-2022, 11:29 PM
looks like one of those mesocephalic Anatolian types which is 3/4 classi Armenian brachycephalic and 1/4 Mediterranean and is found among Armenians, Turks or Kurds. Looks like Mkhitaryan

https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_crop,w_2892,h_1626,x_0,y_283/c_fill,w_720,ar_16:9,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/images/GettyImages/mmsport/german_site_de_international_web/01g42bb9xwqgdf97sh97.jpg

Annihilus
12-31-2022, 11:36 PM
Wasn't she Greek/Persian? Fits the bill if you ask me.

axel.aleman
01-01-2023, 12:03 AM
Alpine Med a mi juicio

Donhueas
01-01-2023, 01:03 AM
looks like one of those mesocephalic Anatolian types which is 3/4 classi Armenian brachycephalic and 1/4 Mediterranean and is found among Armenians, Turks or Kurds. Looks like Mkhitaryan

https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_crop,w_2892,h_1626,x_0,y_283/c_fill,w_720,ar_16:9,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/images/GettyImages/mmsport/german_site_de_international_web/01g42bb9xwqgdf97sh97.jpg

Litorid or anatolid or iranid, for me Cleopatra is like litorid

Demhat
01-01-2023, 01:50 AM
Litorid or anatolid or iranid, for me Cleopatra is like litorid
I don't know what litorid is but can agree with the other two.

Donhueas
01-01-2023, 04:45 AM
I understand it as 50% med. Classic (atlantid or pontid) +50% med. Taurid (like farmer in general)

Vanily
01-01-2023, 08:52 AM
Dinarid.
Ancient Egyptians (and all the eastern Mediterranean in general) were close to EEF with little to no SSA.

nee4speed111
01-01-2023, 08:58 AM
Dinarid.
Ancient Egyptians (and all the eastern Mediterranean in general) were close to EEF with little to no SSA.

While Ancient Egyptians did have Anatolian Neolithic ancestry (EEF is Anatolian + WHG which they don't have), they were dominated by Natufian related ancestry.

Demhat
01-01-2023, 03:39 PM
While Ancient Egyptians did have Anatolian Neolithic ancestry (EEF is Anatolian + WHG which they don't have), they were dominated by Natufian related ancestry.

Right, the main core of the ancient Egyptians has been late LevantN(or very early LevantCHL). Not AnatolianN

This is why they resembled Jordanian Arabs so much on a genetic basis. Also because modern Egyptians have like 5% extra SSA. SSA being a very different admixture from anything West Eurasian shifts modern Egyptians away and makes ancient Egyptians look more "Jordanian" like. Despite the fact that modern Egyptians have around 90 to 95% genetic continuity from ancient Egyptians.

Roy
01-01-2023, 08:31 PM
"While Cleopatra was born in Egypt, she traced her family origins to Macedonian Greece and Ptolemy I Soter, one of Alexander the Great's generals. Ptolemy reigned Egypt after Alexander's death in 323 B.C., and he launched a dynasty of Greek-speaking rulers that lasted for nearly three centuries."

She was also very inbred, at least if we go by official paper trail.