Classify the Argentinian-Irish player Alexis Mac Allister.

[Ruggery]

This is my firts thread of the year
https://www.sectadeportiva.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Diseno-sin-titulo-2022-12-14T155956.729.webp
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Alexis and his father
https://www.radiokermes.com/images/2022/NOVIEMBRE_2022/alexis-mac-allister-boca.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Atlanto-Brunn, while his father is pure Brunn.

[Immanenz]

looks sorta Balkanic

[Ruggery]

looks sorta Balkanic

maybe it's due to the irish+southern euro mix that gives it that vibe.

[Roy]

Mostly Brunn

[Cristiano viejo]

The Mc Allister saga is mixed

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[Seiya2000]

The Mc Allister saga is mixed

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probably from her mother, Alexis is the one who looks the most like her father, and also takes her hair color, with her father's being lighter

Father:
https://i.imgur.com/AauCW9O.jpg

[Seiya2000]

pass in British Islands, in the comments of articles about him in dailymail it is not difficult to find people saying that they thought he was scottish

[Odelia]

A ruddy dinaro-med

[Incal]

Could pass in the Isles. Dad looks Irish tho:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkbZCTPXoAARePZ?format=png&name=small

[Ruggery]

The Mc Allister saga is mixed

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Of the 3 Alexis is the one that came out most similar to his father, phenotypically he looks white.

[Ruggery]

pass in British Islands, in the comments of articles about him in dailymail it is not difficult to find people saying that they thought he was scottish

The surname is very common in Scotland.

[Jingle Bell]

Atlanto-Med + Brunn

Dad is a Brunn + KN/Dinarid

[Ruggery]

probably from her mother, Alexis is the one who looks the most like her father, and also takes her hair color, with her father's being lighter

Father:
https://i.imgur.com/AauCW9O.jpg

Completely in agreement of the 3 children of Carlos, Alexis is the one who got his hair color being Carlos's light red and Alexis's dark red.

[Xacal]

Brunn + Alpine-Med

[Dick]

The surname is very common in Scotland.

the prefix Mac is usually Scottish while Mc is Irish hence the derogatory term 'Mick' and not 'Mack' for an Irish person. In America Mack is slang for a confident, successful man who has many sexual partners. Mack daddy.

[Ruggery]

the prefix Mac is usually Scottish while Mc is Irish hence the derogatory term 'Mick' and not 'Mack' for an Irish person. In America Mack is slang for a confident, successful man who has many sexual partners. Mack daddy.

And Mc?
From what I understand, Mac Allister's grandparents are Irish emigrants from the Donabate area, although they could still be Irish-Scottish, I don't rule it out.

[Grace O'Malley]

the prefix Mac is usually Scottish while Mc is Irish hence the derogatory term 'Mick' and not 'Mack' for an Irish person. In America Mack is slang for a confident, successful man who has many sexual partners. Mack daddy.

Mc and Mac is used in both countries. The contraction Mc is more common in Ireland but you will still find Mac names while in Scotland Mac is more common but you will still find Mc names.


I may refer here to the widespread belief outside Ireland the Mac is essentially a Scottish prefix. To us this idea is absurd. For many of our foremost Irish families bear Mac names such as MacCarthy, MacDermot, MacGuinness, MacGrath, MacGillycuddy, MacKenna, MacMahon, MacNamara and so on. Nevertheless, it is a fallacy widely held.

Edward MacLysaght (1887-1986), Chairman of Irish Manuscripts, former Chief Herald of Ireland


Firstly, it is complete and utter nonsense that Mac and Mc indicate Scottish or Irish origins. They are both EXACTLY the same word, the Mc is actually the abbreviated form of Mac (and sometimes meic) and was usually written M'c (sometimes even M') with the apostrophe indicating that the name has been abbreviated (there are many other characters indicating abbreviation including two dots under the c).

There is however one distinction you can make as far as differentiating between a name being Scottish or Irish. If it is an O' name it is always Irish (those in Scotland are mostly nineteenth century emigrations), but if it is a mac, mc or other variation it can be both Scottish or Irish

http://www.scottishhistory.com/articles/misc/macvsmc.html

[Creoda]

I've never heard of an Irish MacAllister / McAllister.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Mc and Mac is used in both countries. The contraction Mc is more common in Ireland but you will still find Mac names while in Scotland Mac is more common but you will still find Mc names.



Edward MacLysaght (1887-1986), Chairman of Irish Manuscripts, former Chief Herald of Ireland



http://www.scottishhistory.com/articles/misc/macvsmc.html

I have a ton of "Mc" names in my family tree. I have a fair amount of mick ones too.

[Grace O'Malley]

I've never heard of an Irish MacAllister / McAllister.

I'm not sure of the history going way back but quite possibly some could have been from Scotland originally as they went from Antrim to Donabate, Dublin in the 19th Century. There are some Scottish surnames in Ireland that have been there long term with all the movements back and forth.

The father received an award from the GAA.

https://i.imgur.com/b98GaLT.png

https://twitter.com/aoganofearghail/status/1601321940475691010?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1601321940475691010%7Ctwgr% 5E77a53630fed0d720c2ac59ecdae706b8477cf604%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishpost.com%2Fnews%2Fi rish-roots-of-argentinas-world-cup-winner-alexis-mac-allister-244741

[Ruggery]

I'm not sure of the history going way back but quite possibly some could have been from Scotland originally as they went from Antrim to Donabate, Dublin in the 19th Century. There are some Scottish surnames in Ireland that have been there long term with all the movements back and forth.

The father received an award from the GAA.

https://i.imgur.com/b98GaLT.png

https://twitter.com/aoganofearghail/status/1601321940475691010?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1601321940475691010%7Ctwgr% 5E77a53630fed0d720c2ac59ecdae706b8477cf604%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishpost.com%2Fnews%2Fi rish-roots-of-argentinas-world-cup-winner-alexis-mac-allister-244741

His Irish ancestry is likely to be truly Scotch-Irish.

[Cristiano viejo]

Of the 3 Alexis is the one that came out most similar to his father, phenotypically he looks white.
Not sure, honestly.

[Albannach]

His family actually originated in Fife, Scotland before they moved to Ireland in the 1800s and then on to Argentina, hence why he has a Scottish surname, I think his Irish ancestry is spoke about more as it’s more recent and he still has family in Ireland.

The Mc Mac thing is myth too btw, I have a Mc surname and it’s definitely Scottish.

[Ruggery]

Not sure, honestly.

In Europe you see many more exotic people than him.

[Cristiano viejo]

In Europe you see many more exotic people than him.
Probably, but you know they are 100% European. This guy has very strange eyes, and checking his family we can know he is mixed.

[Ruggery]

Probably, but you know they are 100% European. This guy has very strange eyes, and checking his family we can know he is mixed.

The father's eyes are also a bit strange, but no one doubts that he looks white.
And beware, Alexis may not be 100% Euro, but phenotypically it doesn't seem mixed.
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[Cristiano viejo]

The father's eyes are also a bit strange, but no one doubts that he looks white.
And beware, Alexis may not be 100% Euro, but phenotypically it doesn't seem mixed.
[img]https://resizer.glanacion.com/resizer/UQuHo2bc

I dont notice the eyes of father being strange, but those of him seem super strange and give him a super Amerindian vibe.

So yes, phenotypically he looks mixed to me, even if very little.

[Ruggery]

I dont notice the eyes of father being strange, but those of him seem super strange and give him a super Amerindian vibe.

So yes, phenotypically he looks mixed to me, even if very little.
Let's see something, if this Irish boy, for example, were South American, would he seem mixed to you?
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/DE5C/production/_89142965_getty_devonmurray.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

Let's see something, if this Irish boy, for example, were South American, would he seem mixed to you?


does not look mixed to me. His eyes seem normal.

[Ruggery]

does not look mixed to me. His eyes seem normal.

It is a genetic trait that some northern euros and also Euro-Asians have, for example, in Spain it is impossible, in addition to the fact that most of them have big eyes.