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Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 03:04 AM
https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/2/Open/Getty/115248/_derived_jpg_q90_310x470_m0/151240969.jpg
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/DirCOnx1aF5OE4TepGpL_0doaAo/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2020/05/20/064/n/44701584/481fa8d7a203fecb_GettyImages-598315072/i/sexy-nuno-lopez-pictures.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYWM5MmYxZTUtNjVmNC00MWUxLWE3OTEtOTlkNGYzMmI2NG I3XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNTAyODkwOQ@@._V1_.jpg

Looks like one of my uncles, especially in the last picture.

Xacal
01-14-2023, 08:35 AM
Paleo-Atlantid + Atlanto-Med

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 11:37 AM
Paleo-Atlantid + Atlanto-Med

He looks like a dark Irish, IMO.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-14-2023, 12:03 PM
I’ve come across him several times in Lisbon. I rarely see famous people but we keep coming across for some odd reason.

Grace O'Malley
01-14-2023, 12:14 PM
He looks like a dark Irish, IMO.

I don't think so. He doesn't look Irish (dark or otherwise) to me. Looks possibly Italian to me.

https://static.kinoafisha.info/upload/persons/727740156746.jpg

ecptr
01-14-2023, 12:27 PM
I don't think so. He doesn't look Irish (dark or otherwise) to me.

You can see the word 'Atlantid' in every Iberian classification thread, which implies similarity between populations along the Atlantic coast.

Grace O'Malley
01-14-2023, 12:33 PM
This is a dark Irish.

https://cdn.celpox.com/bby_uploads/celeb/6a9728db23a7388d11b4fc649444aaa0.png

Grace O'Malley
01-14-2023, 12:43 PM
You can see the word 'Atlantid' in every Iberian classification thread, which implies similarity between populations along the Atlantic coast.

I've posted my opinion on pseudo-classifications numerous times. Atlantid means nothing genetically. Whatever people are classified as they will still cluster with their ethnicity.

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 12:44 PM
This is a dark Irish.

https://cdn.celpox.com/bby_uploads/celeb/6a9728db23a7388d11b4fc649444aaa0.pnghttps://cps-static.rovicorp.com/2/Open/Getty/115248/_derived_jpg_q90_310x470_m0/151240969.jpg

And you don't see the resemblance?

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 12:59 PM
Spanish, French, Irish all of them have 3 very similar components, so why they whouldn't possibly look similar?
Obviuously, Spanish will look more Med and Irish whould look more Nordic/CM, but it's not as if Iberians were 0% Yamnaya and WHG?

Target: Irish
Distance: 4.9124% / 0.04912391
50.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.0 TUR_Barcin_N
14.0 WHG

Target: English_Cornwall
Distance: 4.9758% / 0.04975786
46.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.2 TUR_Barcin_N
14.4 WHG

Target: French_Nord
Distance: 3.4840% / 0.03483986
45.8 TUR_Barcin_N
42.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG

Target: French_Auvergne
Distance: 3.1213% / 0.03121337
51.8 TUR_Barcin_N
35.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.6 WHG

Target: French_South
Distance: 3.9397% / 0.03939676
55.0 TUR_Barcin_N
27.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
16.8 WHG
0.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
Distance: 2.7103% / 0.02710260
54.0 TUR_Barcin_N
31.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.4 WHG
2.0 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 3.2014% / 0.03201436
53.2 TUR_Barcin_N
30.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.8 WHG
4.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 3.2020% / 0.03201999
54.8 TUR_Barcin_N
28.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG
4.6 MAR_Taforalt

Grace O'Malley
01-14-2023, 12:59 PM
And you don't see the resemblance?

Absolutely not. I'm surprised you think the Portuguese man would pass in Ireland? He looks like what he is. If someone has dark hair and dark eyes it doesn't mean they all look alike. :) They are very different looking.

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/598315072/photo/saint-george-photocall-73rd-venice-film-festival.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=gi&k=20&c=QdHt4-R3oCLvJXjUmyuADRnovqMWfqNz_rmTjrs4bAk=https://theartistspartnership.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Aaron_McCusker_1_Colour@2x.jpg

The Irishman has very Irish features including his eye shape. Like Irish rugby player Cian Healy below.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/edc7257fab8f458115d09dafee84d6c5227af878/0_112_4251_2549/master/4251.jpg?width=620&quality=45&dpr=2&s=none

I would know the Portuguese actor wasn't Irish.

Jingle Bell
01-14-2023, 01:05 PM
Atlanto-Med , maybe minor CM
Pass very well as a pan West-Med

Dont looks Dark Irish IMO, Dark irish generally looks more CM

Grace O'Malley
01-14-2023, 01:10 PM
Spanish, French, Irish all of them have 3 very similar components, so why they whouldn't possibly look similar?
Obviuously, Spanish will look more Med and Irish whould look more Nordic/CM, but it's not as if Iberians were 0% Yamnaya and WHG?

Target: Irish
Distance: 4.9124% / 0.04912391
50.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.0 TUR_Barcin_N
14.0 WHG

Target: English_Cornwall
Distance: 4.9758% / 0.04975786
46.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.2 TUR_Barcin_N
14.4 WHG

Target: French_Nord
Distance: 3.4840% / 0.03483986
45.8 TUR_Barcin_N
42.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG

Target: French_Auvergne
Distance: 3.1213% / 0.03121337
51.8 TUR_Barcin_N
35.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.6 WHG

Target: French_South
Distance: 3.9397% / 0.03939676
55.0 TUR_Barcin_N
27.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
16.8 WHG
0.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
Distance: 2.7103% / 0.02710260
54.0 TUR_Barcin_N
31.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.4 WHG
2.0 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 3.2014% / 0.03201436
53.2 TUR_Barcin_N
30.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.8 WHG
4.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 3.2020% / 0.03201999
54.8 TUR_Barcin_N
28.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG
4.6 MAR_Taforalt

So do Norwegians

Target: Norwegian
Distance: 4.6424% / 0.04642383
50.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
15.6 WHG

In fact they are much closer to Irish in this breakdown but I don't see people trying to say Irish and Norwegians look alike. :confused: Why is that the case? It seems a bit selective. ;)

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 01:17 PM
Atlanto-Med , maybe minor CM
Pass very well as a pan West-Med

Dont looks Dark Irish IMO, Dark irish generally looks more CM

To my eyes, he looks abt 30%+ CM, Atlanto-Meds are more Gracile, IMO.


Absolutely not. I'm surprised you think the Portuguese man would pass in Ireland? He looks like what he is. If someone has dark hair and dark eyes it doesn't mean they all look alike. :) They are very different looking.

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/598315072/photo/saint-george-photocall-73rd-venice-film-festival.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=gi&k=20&c=QdHt4-R3oCLvJXjUmyuADRnovqMWfqNz_rmTjrs4bAk=https://theartistspartnership.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Aaron_McCusker_1_Colour@2x.jpg

The Irishman has very Irish features including his eye shape. Like Irish rugby player Cian Healy below.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/edc7257fab8f458115d09dafee84d6c5227af878/0_112_4251_2549/master/4251.jpg?width=620&quality=45&dpr=2&s=none

I would know the Portuguese actor wasn't Irish.

Not all Irish look extremely CM, but, since yall're saying that, I guess I need to check my eyes? Because I honestly don't see a lot of difference.

"If someone has dark hair and dark eyes it doesn't mean they all look alike" That wasn't my point, I was talking about facial features.

It's just my eyes and opinon, but it's all ok :).

ecptr
01-14-2023, 01:18 PM
but I don't see people trying to say Irish and Norwegians look alike. :confused:

Do you want to look Norwegian?

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 01:20 PM
So do Norwegians

Target: Norwegian
Distance: 4.6424% / 0.04642383
50.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
15.6 WHG

In fact they are much closer to Irish in this breakdown but I don't see people trying to say Irish and Norwegians look alike. :confused: Why is that the case? It seems a bit selective. ;)

I chose these, because they're the most western places in Europe and I'm pretty sure the original comment was abt Atlantids.
I think it's clear that I wasn't saying that Irish look like Iberians, I was saying that Phenotypes can overlap, Iberians can show Nordid/CM traits, because they have very similar components, and that's all.

Grace O'Malley
01-14-2023, 01:22 PM
Do you want to look Norwegian?

How do you get that from what I said above? I just pointed out that Irish are much more similar to Norwegians in the Steppe, Farmer and HG but people don't try to connect Irish and Norwegians.

Grace O'Malley
01-14-2023, 01:30 PM
To my eyes, he looks abt 30%+ CM, Atlanto-Meds are more Gracile, IMO.



Not all Irish look extremely CM, but, since yall're saying that, I guess I need to check my eyes? Because I honestly don't see a lot of difference.

"If someone has dark hair and dark eyes it doesn't mean they all look alike" That wasn't my point, I was talking about facial features.

It's just my eyes and opinon, but it's all ok :).

Yes it is only your opinion but I don't think the man posted looks Irish at all so it makes me wonder what you think Irish look like. Also why would he look "dark Irish" particularly over any other nationality?

Immanenz
01-14-2023, 01:36 PM
looks much closer to Greek than Irish, just a robust Med

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 01:40 PM
Yes it is only your opinion but I don't think the man posted looks Irish at all so it makes me wonder what you think Irish look like. Also why would he look "dark Irish" particularly over any other nationality?

LMAO, I never said that he looks JUST Irish! He looks like he could be Irish, English, Welsh, Italian, French, etc.
I said Irish, because it was the first thing that came to my mind, and because I think he looks somewhat "Brünn" (Paleo Atlantid).

Grace O'Malley
01-14-2023, 01:41 PM
I chose these, because they're the most western places in Europe and I'm pretty sure the original comment was abt Atlantids.
I think it's clear that I wasn't saying that Irish look like Iberians, I was saying that Phenotypes can overlap, Iberians can show Nordid/CM traits, because they have very similar components, and that's all.

Yes that is reasonable but there is also quite noticeable differences. Even with those components Irish have about 20 points more Steppe and a lot less Farmer. Iberians also had different populations such as Romans and North Africans in their mix. All those components are in all European populations with some populations also having some more recent West Asian type ancestry.

Grace O'Malley
01-14-2023, 01:47 PM
LMAO, I never said that he looks JUST Irish! He looks like he could be Irish, English, Welsh, Italian, French, etc.
I said Irish, because it was the first thing that came to my mind, and because I think he looks somewhat "Brünn" (Paleo Atlantid).

"Brunn" is a different category than Paleo Atlantid. You said he looks "a dark Irish". So that is what I was questioning.

Beowulf
01-14-2023, 01:57 PM
"Brunn" is a different category than Paleo Atlantid. You said he looks "a dark Irish". So that is what I was questioning.

what are the differences? im curious

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 02:06 PM
what are the differences? im curious
Paleo Atlantid
https://i.imgur.com/DjjqRmn.png

Brünn
https://i.imgur.com/Ffpdtq2.png

Beowulf
01-14-2023, 02:08 PM
Paleo Atlantid
https://i.imgur.com/DjjqRmn.png

Brünn
https://i.imgur.com/Ffpdtq2.png

it's practically the same but Brunn is Lighter

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 02:08 PM
"Brunn" is a different category than Paleo Atlantid. You said he looks "a dark Irish". So that is what I was questioning.

Paleo Atlantid and Brünn are very similar types, but not exactly the same, that's why I put quotes on it.

ecptr
01-14-2023, 02:10 PM
How do you get that from what I said above? I just pointed out that Irish are much more similar to Norwegians in the Steppe, Farmer and HG but people don't try to connect Irish and Norwegians.

Iberians want to look like the Irish, and the Irish want to look like Norwegians.

Whom do Norwegians want to resemble?

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 02:11 PM
it's practically the same but Brunn is Lighter

Brünn is a reduced and lighter version of PA, because of slight Alpinization.

Beowulf
01-14-2023, 02:13 PM
Iberians want to look like the Irish, and the Irish want to look like Norwegians.

Whom do Norwegians want to resemble?


Inuits :rolleyes:

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 02:13 PM
Iberians want to look like the Irish, and the Irish want to look like Norwegians.

Whom do Norwegians want to resemble?

I mean... I never wanted to look like half Irish... My favorite types are the Atlanto-Med/Alpine blends, they look the most fire!

But, to your question... North Asians or Koreans?

prohairesis
01-14-2023, 02:40 PM
Just a coarse Med, he passes much better in southern Italy and Lebanon than anywhere in northwestern Europe. He could be the brother of Syrian celebrity Kaysar Dadour.

Iberian anthrotards often have an obsession with Ireland and passing as "Celtic" for some reason, there used to be a bizarre theory about the 'Atlantic Facade' and it was popular to claim that Iberians and UK people were brother populations. Of course now we know that Portuguese and Irish have almost nothing to do with each other genetically.

Damiăo de Góis
01-14-2023, 03:18 PM
Just a coarse Med, he passes much better in southern Italy and Lebanon than anywhere in northwestern Europe. He could be the brother of Syrian celebrity Kaysar Dadour.

Iberian anthrotards often have an obsession with Ireland and passing as "Celtic" for some reason, there used to be a bizarre theory about the 'Atlantic Facade' and it was popular to claim that Iberians and UK people were brother populations. Of course now we know that Portuguese and Irish have almost nothing to do with each other genetically.

I don't know which "iberian anthrotards" have an obsession with Ireland, who are they? It was a brazilian poster who said he looked irish.
Either way i googled that syrian celebrity and you're saying these two people could be brothers?

https://www.iol.pt/multimedia/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/58dd28b30cf2b1e529f04f55/800

https://s2.glbimg.com/HkIdb7GvAlEC5pn1bsdmM4FBNmo=/0x0:1080x1080/984x0/smart/filters:strip_icc()/i.s3.glbimg.com/v1/AUTH_e84042ef78cb4708aeebdf1c68c6cbd6/internal_photos/bs/2019/h/V/kHLs3ZSB2ir1xSpI9afw/kaysar.dadour-.jpg

Btw, your posting history suggests you are another brazilian.

Eurafricanid
01-14-2023, 04:01 PM
Just a coarse Med, he passes much better in southern Italy and Lebanon than anywhere in northwestern Europe. He could be the brother of Syrian celebrity Kaysar Dadour.

Iberian anthrotards often have an obsession with Ireland and passing as "Celtic" for some reason, there used to be a bizarre theory about the 'Atlantic Facade' and it was popular to claim that Iberians and UK people were brother populations. Of course now we know that Portuguese and Irish have almost nothing to do with each other genetically.

If you think he looks Lebanese, Syran and/or especifically southern Italian, you're the one that has the worst eyes. Also, Iberians don't need to "pass" as Celtic, because they already are geneticaly Celtic, The difference is that the Irish are Celtic +
Germanic and Iberians are Celtic + Iberian BA, kinda like the French.

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2023, 03:34 AM
Iberians want to look like the Irish, and the Irish want to look like Norwegians.

Whom do Norwegians want to resemble?

You've made that up. Irish don't look like Norwegians or Iberians. As I've said in numerous threads (you can search) the only people Irish resemble are British Islanders. Individuals can pass in other populations but put up group pictures and people are pretty distinctive.

Jingle Bell
01-15-2023, 03:38 AM
If you think he looks Lebanese, Syran and/or especifically southern Italian, you're the one that has the worst eyes. Also, Iberians don't need to "pass" as Celtic, because they already are geneticaly Celtic, The difference is that the Irish are Celtic +
Germanic and Iberians are Celtic + Iberian BA, kinda like the French.

Yeah, how that guy said that Iberians had nothing genetically with Irish? lol
also Irish are mainly Celtic + Bell Beaker not germanic :p

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2023, 03:50 AM
Yeah, how that guy said that Iberians had nothing genetically with Irish? lol
also Irish are mainly Celtic + Bell Beaker not germanic :p

The Irish are more closely related to all other Northwestern Europeans though. Whether you are "Celtic" or "Germanic" does not change this. If Irish didn't mix since the Bronze Age they would now have their own cluster and be more distant due to drift but this is not the case. They cluster with other populations in that neighbourhood. They are just a Northwestern European population which is why they cluster where they do. If they are mainly Celtic and Bell Beaker they still cluster with British, Dutch, Scandinavians etc. There is not even an Insular Celtic cluster i.e. Irish are closest to Scots and Welsh are closest to English and vice versa i.e. Scots are closer to English than to Welsh.

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2023, 04:05 AM
Yeah, how that guy said that Iberians had nothing genetically with Irish? lol
also Irish are mainly Celtic + Bell Beaker not germanic :p

Also Iberians are closer to populations like French, Germans, Swiss, Belgians. Even with Isles populations Irish are more distant and Iberians are closer to "Germanic" English than to "Celtic" Irish.

NSXD60
01-15-2023, 04:42 AM
Of coarse, mesocephalic Med!

RyoHazuki
01-15-2023, 09:23 AM
Baskid

gixajo
01-15-2023, 10:44 AM
In fact they are much closer to Irish in this breakdown but I don't see people trying to say Irish and Norwegians look alike. :confused: Why is that the case? It seems a bit selective. ;)


Do Irish look Norwegians?

Grace O'Malley
01-16-2023, 03:00 AM
Do Irish look Norwegians?

No they don't. It is not difficult to tell them apart.

https://www.irishnews.com/picturesarchive/irishnews/irishnews/2019/09/01/230130310-0ccb8624-fb99-4c46-81b4-3145bd325887.jpg

http://traleetoday.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Kerry-Dublin-9-650x414.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5WNgGqe.png

https://i.imgur.com/zihD8Fr.png

https://i.imgur.com/3sFANru.png

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1408087095/photo/group-a-uefa-womens-euro-2022.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=gi&k=20&c=c206EX_ROPlFjrumAO_W59mdIwlEGgUMg6oJlw-lDF4=

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5749606.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/Norwegian-Eurovision-Song-Contest-fans-with-the-Flag-of-Norway-painted-in-the-face-and-flags-around-their-shoulder-are.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/2E5B/production/_85476811_701b5598-6c7d-4d04-ab27-3a705a03fc5d.jpg.webp

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1152261645/photo/round-of-16-2019-fifa-womens-world-cup-france.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=pinWsp6Mm7JHWA6HWsOWCuM7xYR5_9VozN9KuMaOKPE=

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1408076518/photo/group-a-uefa-womens-euro-2022.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=gi&k=20&c=LRMLl0ucaEDQ0K1a6nv9_8-WwINhHBPwCJDIEN6mAyQ=

Grace O'Malley
01-16-2023, 05:01 AM
Do Irish look Norwegians?

And while I don't think Irish look particularly Norwegian there is no doubt that they look Northwestern European. Their biggest overlap is with British Islanders and after that other Northwestern Europeans. Anyone that disputes that is riding some agenda wave and no doubt being trollish.

Tsuin
01-16-2023, 05:15 AM
Med + minor CM