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Eurafricanid
01-15-2023, 08:32 PM
They use this (Eurafricanid):
https://i.imgur.com/BTrwohC.png

Instead of this:
https://i.imgur.com/cQTyMgE.jpg


Why?!

Gallop
01-15-2023, 09:06 PM
Por el globalismo.

lei.talk
01-15-2023, 10:08 PM
using google image search (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Images) for the second image
produced eleven pages of results (in five languages)
in which the image was used correctly.

using google image search for the first image
produced only one result: fandom.com/wiki/Atlanto-Mediterranean (https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Atlanto-Mediterranean)


perhaps, you could post links
to the incorrect uses you have found?

Marshall Theodore
01-15-2023, 11:03 PM
Humanphenotypes.com is outdated

placebo
01-15-2023, 11:04 PM
i thought first one is atlanto med and second is atlantid.

Gallop
01-15-2023, 11:06 PM
Me identifico más con Atlantid.

Marshall Theodore
01-15-2023, 11:06 PM
i thought first one is atlanto med and second is atlantid.

This is Atlantid
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQaiQVT51ZMCgX0n57aCSWdNtPj8KNm XBsfQ&usqp=CAU

Moreover, there's no such thing as "Atlantid", its just a anthrotard term for North Atlantid + Atlanto-Med mix or Nordo-Med.

placebo
01-15-2023, 11:08 PM
This is Atlantid
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQaiQVT51ZMCgX0n57aCSWdNtPj8KNm XBsfQ&usqp=CAU

Moreover, there's no such thing as "Atlantid", its just a anthrotard term for North Atlantid + Atlanto-Med mix.

morph looks like ben affleck

Beowulf
01-15-2023, 11:08 PM
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Immanenz
01-15-2023, 11:12 PM
The reason is pretty basic: the creator (its one guy) uses the morphs he wants. Eurafricanid is synonymus to Atlanto Med to some degree, its also an umbrella term.

Marshall Theodore
01-15-2023, 11:16 PM
Eurafricanid is synonymus to Atlanto Med to some degree, its also an umbrella term.

Eurafricanid looks more like a non-euro version of Atlanto-Med rather than a synonymous.

ecptr
01-15-2023, 11:17 PM
They use this (Eurafricanid):
https://i.imgur.com/BTrwohC.png

Instead of this:
https://i.imgur.com/cQTyMgE.jpg


Why?!

First morph looks Iberian, second morph looks French.

Marshall Theodore
01-15-2023, 11:18 PM
First morph looks Iberian, second morph looks French.

Only the second looks european (and Iberian).

Out from anthrotardism, all of those stuff is pseudo-science.

Odelia
01-16-2023, 12:42 AM
i thought first one is atlanto med and second is atlantid.
This

Eurafricanid
01-16-2023, 01:14 AM
This


i thought first one is atlanto med and second is atlantid.


The first one is a non European (mostly North African) version of the second, I also thought that, when I started learning about phenotypes.

Atlanto-Med
https://i.imgur.com/cQTyMgE.jpg

Atlantid
https://i.imgur.com/Jq4OeCD.png

Eurafricanid
01-16-2023, 01:21 AM
using google image search (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Images) for the second image
produced eleven pages of results (in five languages)
in which the image was used correctly.

using google image search for the first image
produced only one result: fandom.com/wiki/Atlanto-Mediterranean (https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Atlanto-Mediterranean)


perhaps, you could post links
to the incorrect uses you have found?


Incorrect?

Odelia
01-16-2023, 06:55 AM
The first one is a non European (mostly North African) version of the second, I also thought that, when I started learning about phenotypes.
Really? The first one looks typical southern European. Nothing north african about it, but north african white wannabes will now foam over it. Second one is just north atlantic type.

PaganPoet
01-16-2023, 07:01 AM
Because confusion is a very important motivation for discussing. If everything were cleared out and intellectually honest, then there wouldn't be much left to discuss.

Eurafricanid
01-16-2023, 02:11 PM
Really? The first one looks typical southern European. Nothing north african about it, but north african white wannabes will now foam over it. Second one is just north atlantic type.

This one is Atlanto-Med, 100% Med in phenotype:
https://i.imgur.com/cQTyMgE.jpg


This one (Eurafricanid) is somewhat Berberid-inflenced, if you didn't notice, here's Berberid too:
https://i.imgur.com/BTrwohC.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/PXsQjii.png
The reason why some European Atlanto-Meds might look kind of like this is because some have CM mix, which is somewhat similar to Berberid (or they might be that as well, most aren't, but usually I can tell them apart).

Also, this one (Euraficanid), is the reason why Trans-Med is a mostly North African "Phenotype intermediate between Eurafricanid and Gracile Mediterranid", if Eurafricanid were European, Trans-Med whould be 100% European


This one is Atlantid aka Nordo-Med, it's mixed with North Atlantid:
https://i.imgur.com/Jq4OeCD.png


And this is North Atlantid:
https://i.imgur.com/plSyeFk.png

The reason why the European ones look similar is because the Nordid Phenotype is VERY similar morphologically to the Atlanto-Mediterranean Phenotype and they are mixed with Nordid (Mostly)

Immanenz
01-16-2023, 02:20 PM
Its only called bias for narrow faces tbh- so WHG admixture is going up but people get more graciler. Eurafricanids and Atlanto Meds had more robuster faces as well, its also written in the describtion of the type, there is no connection with Berberids apart it being an ancient subtype of Eurafricanid.

Ratatorsk dropped his North Atlantid, Atlantid and Atlanto Med because he did not like the morphs (espeically the females looked too unrealistic) and also he checked up again with the older anthropologists instead of apricity-agrippa wisdom.

Eurafricanid
01-16-2023, 02:43 PM
Its only called bias for narrow faces tbh- so WHG admixture is going up but people get more graciler. Eurafricanids and Atlanto Meds had more robuster faces as well, its also written in the describtion of the type, there is no connection with Berberids apart it being an ancient subtype of Eurafricanid.

Ratatorsk dropped his North Atlantid, Atlantid and Atlanto Med because he did not like the morphs (espeically the females looked too unrealistic) and also he checked up again with the older anthropologists instead of apricity-agrippa wisdom.

This literally says that there's a connection, also they do look alike, though, so it's not too crazy to just compare them, and see the connections.
Interesting, I don't think the morphs are unrealistic, ehy whould they be, if the female morphs are unrealistic, why aren't the males as well?

Immanenz
01-16-2023, 02:56 PM
This literally says that there's a connection, also they do look alike, though, so it's not too crazy to just compare them, and see the connections.

They are as connected to Dinaric, Iranid, Arabid etc. if you want as well. The point is "its ancient" Med connections.

You cannot take Ratatrosk morphs fully serious- He used most likely a mix of Europeans and Middle Easteners for it. Mechta Afalou had like 30-35 % SSA admixture and many of those "Proto-Eurafricanid" types had extremly prominent noses- just another bias i notice as well.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Olivier-Dutour/publication/241685626/figure/fig1/AS:642881790418945@1530286371145/Vue-frontale-de-4-cranes-masculins-de-Hassi-el-Abiob_Q320.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Mechta_el-Arbi.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGLAjR_XwAA03FR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkeq4rsx2CoEI0QBcAtXAk7YaVg6MoU SusYA&usqp=CAU
https://djillali-hadjouis.fr/images/reconstit/craven1.jpeg

Eurafricanid
01-16-2023, 03:00 PM
They are as connected to Dinaric, Iranid, Arabid etc. if you want as well. The point is "its ancient" Med connections.

You cannot take Ratatrosk morphs fully serious- He used most likely a mix of Europeans and Middle Easteners for it. Mechta Afalou had like 30-35 % SSA admixture and many of those "Proto-Eurafricanid" types had extremly prominent noses- just another bias i notice as well.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Olivier-Dutour/publication/241685626/figure/fig1/AS:642881790418945@1530286371145/Vue-frontale-de-4-cranes-masculins-de-Hassi-el-Abiob_Q320.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Mechta_el-Arbi.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGLAjR_XwAA03FR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkeq4rsx2CoEI0QBcAtXAk7YaVg6MoU SusYA&usqp=CAU
https://djillali-hadjouis.fr/images/reconstit/craven1.jpeg

You literally said Berberid is Proto-Eurafricanid how they're not connected.
How are they as connected to Dinarid and Orientaid?

lei.talk
01-18-2023, 02:19 PM
...fails to clearly illustrate the distinguishing elements
of various or similar taxa.


...You cannot take Ratatoskr (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?366742-Are-Belgians-Nordic&p=7635838&viewfull=1#post7635838) morphs fully serious...




exempli gratia: the first images
in fritz paudler (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Paudler)'s book (click-on to view)


https://i.imgur.com/fw6VH07.png (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015042159718&view=1up&seq=6)




contrast a real berberid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#BERBERID) to a real berid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#BERID)

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/gl-berberid.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.pnghttps://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/gl-berid.jpg

Cristiano viejo
01-18-2023, 02:28 PM
First morph looks Iberian, second morph looks French.

In fact first morph looks nothing Spanish and the second morph does as fuck.

I understand that a person of USA knows nothing about phenotypes in Europe.

Eurafricanid
01-18-2023, 03:01 PM
...fails to clearly illustrate the distinguishing elements
of various or similar taxa.






exempli gratia: the first images
in fritz paudler (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Paudler)'s book (click-on to view)


https://i.imgur.com/fw6VH07.png (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015042159718&view=1up&seq=6)




contrast a real berberid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#BERBERID) to a real berid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#BERID)

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/gl-berberid.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.pnghttps://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/gl-berid.jpg

Wait... So Berid is just Paleo-Sardinian???!!! :eek:

Eurafricanid
01-18-2023, 03:07 PM
Now that I thought about it, this Berid image I was using, looks just like Paleo Sardinian + Alpine! :eek:

https://i.imgur.com/cCuEMaa.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/TNPy9zB.jpg

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/the-races-of-the-world/images/1/17/Paleosardin.pnghttps://static.wikia.nocookie.net/the-races-of-the-world/images/b/bf/WestAlpinid.png
:eek::eek::eek::dead0000::fou12001:

lei.talk
01-18-2023, 03:57 PM
Wait... So Berid is just Paleo-Sardinian???!!! :eek:

as demonstrated earlier,
fritz paudler's identification of the berid (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?353254-Berid-phenotype-really-exist&p=7649016#post7649016)

significantly pre-dates lidio cipriani (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidio_Cipriani)'s reference to a primitive form of sardinian

and specifies a much larger territory around the mediterranean
than the island of sardinia.






cipriani was an astonishingly prolific photographer.
click-on this image and buy the book of images.

https://i.imgur.com/EswvWFI.png (https://brill.com/view/journals/nun/36/3/article-p611_5.xml?language=en)https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png

Knight Slayer
01-18-2023, 04:53 PM
Never liked those morphs because they do not properly represent the authors ideas. It's best to rely on what the authors gave us.

DraviXi99
01-22-2023, 02:02 AM
morph looks like ben affleck

Yes,Ben Affleck is a textbook atlantid.