Classify these dark mainly native French students from Loire Atlantique

[Oliver109]

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[Hoosierboy]

Mediterranean

[PaganPoet]

Alpine-Mediterranean.

[Xacal]

Dark? Mainly Atlantids, Alpinds, Subnordids, and Atlanto-Meds

[gixajo]

Last photo is in Madrid.

[Oliver109]

Dark? Mainly Atlantids, Alpinds, Subnordids, and Atlanto-Meds

They are pretty dark, what is noticeable is just how absent light blonde hair is, some Spanish groups posted(even by myself) have more light blonde people.

[Cristiano viejo]

Last photo is in Madrid.
And what about this one??

https://www.saintjoseph-machecoul.fr/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/cdi11-1024x768.jpg

[gixajo]

And what about this one??

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They can be photos of different classes of French students of the Spanish language, in a study trip to Spain in the last photos.(in the photo of the dining room they are eating "rabas", I don't think if they are very common in French school menus)

Honestly, if you tell me that they are Spaniards from a Spanish school, with their quota of omnipresent foreigners present here as in any European country, I would believe it also.

[vader]

Not sure how you can say these are "dark", you must think intermediate and light are albino.

[Norb]

Not sure how you can say these are "dark", you must think intermediate and light are albino.

Olly has light Blonde hair, that's why he calls them dark

[Oliver109]

Not sure how you can say these are "dark", you must think intermediate and light are albino.

Lol, this is light imo
https://flxt.tmsimg.com/assets/491010_v9_bc.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

Lol, this is light imo

TROLOLOL

1- SHE IS DYED.
2- SKIN COLOUR IS AVERAGE.

[Oliver109]

TROLOLOL

1- SHE IS DYED.
2- SKIN COLOUR IS AVERAGE.

OK, post me 10 Spaniards that have the same skin color as her or this lady:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/86/c2/0e/86c20e72064f7e508e9bc7075c27daf1.jpg

[aherne]

Interesting... They look extremely Alpinid, followed by Med, followed by Keltic Nordid (almost identical to Spaniards). Surprisingly, people in Toulouse/Lavaur are different: nordo-meds are the most usual type and keltic influence is much much greater.

[Oliver109]

Interesting... They look extremely Alpinid, followed by Med, followed by Keltic Nordid (almost identical to Spaniards). Surprisingly, people in Toulouse/Lavaur are different: nordo-meds are the most usual type and keltic influence is much much greater.

I think France is more NE-SE in terms of lightness, these French are probably the real aboriginal Europeans, many look similar to other primitive alpine types further east i.e in Greece and northern Turkey, Nordic influence is low.

[sanhadji]

Light blond is very rare in France
Places you can see it as minority is normandy there is a rumor that this people were originally vikings

[Oliver109]

Light blond is very rare in France
Places you can see it as minority is normandy there is a rumor that this people were originally vikings

Even in Normandy it is uncommon, i did post a pic with a lot of light blondes but that was very very near the Belgian and English border near Lille.

[Cristiano viejo]

OK, post me 10 Spaniards that have the same skin color as her or this lady:


70-80% of Spaniards have that skin colour, it could not be more average.

[MobyD]

Olly has light Blonde hair, that's why he calls them dark

'Olly' is an idiot.

[SouthDutch7991]

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They don't look dark at all for white americans.

[Oliver109]

70-80% of Spaniards have that skin colour, it could not be more average.

Pahaha, I used to have you down as someone who was maybe a tad eccentric but generally knew what they were talking about, now i have you down as very very deluded and maybe brainwashed by the Spanish media as to how Spaniards look.

[B01AB20]

Olly has light Blonde hair, that's why he calls them dark

'Olly' seems to be pretty obsessed with light features and he believes he has a extreme accuracy to judge who is light and who isn't... and throwing it like a curse or something.

Maybe is because he's half spanish and sometimes he feels out of place in UK? Projecting his fears or something like that.

With all the tons and tons of foreigners living in UK maybe the impression of who is native and who isn't has changed among native English lately no?

Because I think Olly :D would question the englishness of The Beatles for example, too dark to be English.

[Oliver109]

'Olly' seems to be pretty obsessed with light features and he believes he has a extreme accuracy to judge who is light and who isn't... and throwing it like a curse or something.

Maybe is because he's half spanish and sometimes he feels out of place in UK? Projecting his fears or something like that.

With all the tons and tons of foreigners living in UK maybe the impression of who is native and who isn't has changed among native English lately no?

Because I think Olly :D would question the englishness of The Beatles for example, too dark to be English.

Lol i feel completely in place in the UK, the problem is that there is still a belief going around here in England that you can only be considered English looking if you are blonde, brunn, freckled etc, many of C Viejo's Spaniards would be considered to be more "English" than myself because they are blonde or blue eyed, that is even the case if they are a little bit swarthy, have a little bit of a tan.

[Marshall Theodore]

Dark?

[B01AB20]

Lol i feel completely in place in the UK, the problem is that there is still a belief going around here in England that you can only be considered English looking if you are blonde, brunn, freckled etc,

I remember you saying that sometimes you were asked if you were English in England, hence my assumptions. And your response confirms it. Maybe the huge amount of foreirgners have exasperated this curious belief?. Curious because many famous brits don't fill that stereotype, like The Beatles for example.


many of C Viejo's Spaniards would be considered to be more "English" than myself because they are blonde or blue eyed, that is even the case if they are a little bit swarthy, have a little bit of a tan.

Lol, great confession man, :thumb001: .

And people call some iberians 'nordicist'... At least here the dark spaniards, dark for our standard, are also regarded as spaniards, by most of us I mean.

[Cristiano viejo]

Pahaha, I used to have you down as someone who was maybe a tad eccentric but generally knew what they were talking about, now i have you down as very very deluded and maybe brainwashed by the Spanish media as to how Spaniards look.
You are not in place to say what is white, pale or light since you called light to these two Englishmen, Orlando Bloom and the other super swarthy, no idea about his name.



And people call some iberians 'nordicist'... At least here the dark spaniards, dark for our standard, are also regarded as spaniards, by most of us I mean.
Good, good point...