Brás Garcia's Illustrative DNA

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

https://i.imgur.com/ARQIFVU.png

Genetically Closest Modern Populations


https://i.imgur.com/GQ9tktr.png

Hunter Gatherer & Farmer Ancestry


https://i.imgur.com/nQWtxEf.png

Genetically Closest Ancient Populations

https://i.imgur.com/7YSEpMs.png

Periodical Ancient Ancestry Breakdown (Middle Ages)


https://i.imgur.com/3fdvIkj.png

PCA Plot

[Beowulf]

what do you get in Global mode?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

what do you get in Global mode?

https://i.imgur.com/qZzrwhR.png

[Beowulf]

https://i.imgur.com/qZzrwhR.png

weird

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

weird

Have you tried Illustrative DNA? What did you get on it? I have no term of comparison so I don't know if other Iberian members are getting similar results.

[Beowulf]

Have you tried Illustrative DNA? What did you get on it? I have no term of comparison so I don't know if other Iberian members are getting similar results.

Bronze age:

European Farmer (6300–2800 BC)44.8%

Central Steppe (2100–1800 BC)40.0%

Canaanite (1800–1100 BC)11.2%

Northwest African (5200–4900 BC)4.0%

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iron age:
Italic and Etruscan (900–200 BC)52.6%

Insular Celt (600 BC–AD 100)18.8%

Germanic (AD 100–600)12.0%

Egyptian (780–400 BC)8.4%

Berber (760–540 BC)8.2%

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migration era:

Roman Iberia (AD 260–500)34.6%

Roman Gaul (AD 130–500)22.4%

Roman Sardinia (AD 400–500)15.4%

Pict (AD 300–500)10.8%

Arabian Peninsula4.4%

Roman North Africa (AD 120–220)4.2%

Roman Illyria (AD 100–600)3.8%

Baltic (AD 260–540)1.8%

Khwarazm and Transoxiana (100 BC–AD 950)1.8%

Roman Italy (20 BC–AD 600)0.6%

Papuan (400–200 BC)0.2%

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Middle ages:

France (AD 130–1400)42.4%

Iberian (AD 300–1200)21.4%

Sardinian (AD 770–1000)13.0%

North African (AD 580–1160)6.2%

Insular Celt (AD 100–1000)6.0%

Germanic (AD 700–1000)3.8%

European Jew (AD 1160–1400)3.6%

Arabian Peninsula3.4%

Papuan (400–200 BC)0.2%

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Bronze Age


European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 56.6%

Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 27.2%

Bronze Age Anatolian (3400–1500 BC) 10.2%

Northwest African (5200–4900 BC) 5.8%

Sub-Saharan African 0.2%

Iron Age


Continental Celt (800–50 BC) 37.2%

Iberian (700–50 BC) 33.2%

Roman Italy (20 BC–AD 600) 17.8%

Berber (760–540 BC) 11.8%

Migration Period


Roman Iberia (AD 260–500) 46.2%

Roman Gaul (AD 130–500) 45.6%

Roman North Africa (AD 120–220) 8.2%


Middle Ages


Iberian (AD 300–1200) 49.6%

France (AD 130–1400) 41.6%

North African (AD 580–1160) 8.8%


Your results are a lot more unusual than mine (comparatively to the average Iberian) yet you found them weird :D

[Beowulf]

Bronze Age


European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 56.6%

Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 27.2%

Bronze Age Anatolian (3400–1500 BC) 10.2%

Northwest African (5200–4900 BC) 5.8%

Sub-Saharan African 0.2%

Iron Age


Continental Celt (800–50 BC) 37.2%

Iberian (700–50 BC) 33.2%

Roman Italy (20 BC–AD 600) 17.8%

Berber (760–540 BC) 11.8%

Migration Period


Roman Iberia (AD 260–500) 46.2%

Roman Gaul (AD 130–500) 45.6%

Roman North Africa (AD 120–220) 8.2%


Middle Ages


Iberian (AD 300–1200) 49.6%

France (AD 130–1400) 41.6%

North African (AD 580–1160) 8.8%


Your results are a lot more unusual than mine (comparatively to the average Iberian) yet you found them weird :D

your global midle ages was weird because 0% Iberian :p btw good results :)

[Eurafricanid]

Your results are a lot more unusual than mine (comparatively to the average Iberian) yet you found them weird :D

He isn't 100% Iberian, as it says on his profile.
"Ancestry: Iberian,1/8 British, 1/16 Ligurian, French"

[Jingle Bell]

Bronze Age


European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 56.6%

Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 27.2%

Bronze Age Anatolian (3400–1500 BC) 10.2%

Northwest African (5200–4900 BC) 5.8%

Sub-Saharan African 0.2%

Iron Age


Continental Celt (800–50 BC) 37.2%

Iberian (700–50 BC) 33.2%

Roman Italy (20 BC–AD 600) 17.8%

Berber (760–540 BC) 11.8%

Migration Period


Roman Iberia (AD 260–500) 46.2%

Roman Gaul (AD 130–500) 45.6%

Roman North Africa (AD 120–220) 8.2%


Middle Ages


Iberian (AD 300–1200) 49.6%

France (AD 130–1400) 41.6%

North African (AD 580–1160) 8.8%


Your results are a lot more unusual than mine (comparatively to the average Iberian) yet you found them weird :D

U got very normal results, mainly a mix of Iberia IA + Gaul IA (Possibly a proxy for the Western Hispano Celts since we dont have any samples from they) + Roman Imperial + Berber/NA proxy
The only "strange" thing in your result is u scoring Anatolian Ba, but must be some misread CHG or Natufian idk


Ik im not a full blooded iberian, but my euro side seens kinda similar to what u score, like mainly a mix of Iberia, France/Gaul, Roman/East-Med and Berber

https://i.imgur.com/bIH0tTo.png
https://i.imgur.com/FnWhcGZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/BPJ7HXD.png
https://i.imgur.com/iwtdWgb.png

Here a iberian result if u want to compare yourself:
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/10284ta?user_id=859413612000&web_redirect=true
https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/yykmfc/spanish_from_valencia_illustrative_dna/

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

your global midle ages was weird because 0% Iberian :p btw good results :)

Yes, it is because in Illustrative DNA the French samples are from individuals from Gallo-Roman period and Middle Ages. I always get a very close proximity to Gallo-Romans.

[Beowulf]

Yes, it is because in Illustrative DNA the French samples are from individuals from Gallo-Roman period and Middle Ages. I always get a very close proximity to Gallo-Romans.

makes sense, i think they should add some Frankish samples too it would better for French people if not they will get weird results like high Germanic or Scando, but with Frankish samples in the France region i think would be better

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

https://i.imgur.com/ARQIFVU.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0dW5f9d/Opera-Instant-neo-2018-06-05-151749-gen3553-pagesperso-orange-fr.png

Compared to the old fashioned K36 Similarity Tool. Similar pattern.

[Beowulf]

https://i.imgur.com/ARQIFVU.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0dW5f9d/Opera-Instant-neo-2018-06-05-151749-gen3553-pagesperso-orange-fr.png

Compared to the old fashioned K36 Similarity Tool. Similar pattern.

interesting you're so close to Central French people, i've seen other iberians with that k36 tool and they had mostly all iberia as +80%

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

interesting you're so close to Central French people, i've seen other iberians with that k36 tool and they had mostly all iberia as +80%

There is always some variation. You can check this thread I did years ago, it has about ~80 Portuguese samples: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?247121-Portuguese-K36-Similarity-Tool-Results

[Cristiano viejo]

how in hell a Portuguese gets closer to Castilians and Leonese than to own Portuguese?? :blink:

does this mean we are Portuguese, after all?? :lol:

a big LOLULZ to "Galicians and Portuguese are the same people", lmaoooo

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

how in hell a Portuguese gets closer to Castilians and Leonese than to own Portuguese?? :blink:

does this mean we are Portuguese, after all?? :lol:

a big LOLULZ to "Galicians and Portuguese are the same people", lmaoooo

The difference between Castilla y Leon, Galician and Portuguese averages are minimal, any slight variance can make you closer to one over another. Castilians, Galicians, Extremeños, and Portuguese are part of the cluster "North to South West Iberia" (if we were to divide the Iberian Peninsula in different clusters it would be "West", "Central", "East" and "Basque"). My wife closest match is Galician for example.

[Beowulf]

in my modern im almost 74.2 French lol:


Southwest Europe
67.2%
Basque
38.4%
Basque (France)
38.4%
French (Occitan)
28.8%
French (Occitanie Hautes-Pyrenees Bigorre Lourdes)
14.4%
French (Occitanie Lozere)
14.4%
Southeast Europe
13.0%
Aegean Sea
13.0%
Greek (Ikaria-Samos)
13.0%
North Africa
8.6%
Maghreb
8.6%
Moroccan Berber (Shilha)
8.4%
Moroccan Berber (Senhaja de Srair)
0.2%
West Europe
7.0%
French (Arpitan)
6.8%
French (Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes Rhone)
6.8%
French (Oïl)
0.2%
French (Centre-Val de Loire Indre)
0.2%
East Europe
2.6%
East Slavic
2.6%
Ukrainian (Kharkiv)
2.6%
Southwest Asia
1.4%
Arabian Peninsula
1.4%
Yemenite (Al Jawf)
1.4%
Sub-Saharan African
0.2%
Khoisan
0.2%
San (Ju Hoan)
0.2%
Fit: 1.465 (Good)

as we say in Spanish: Que elegancia la de Francia :rolleyes:

[Cristiano viejo]

The difference between Castilla y Leon, Galician and Portuguese averages are minimal, any slight variance can make you closer to one over another. Castilians, Galicians, Extremeños, and Portuguese are part of the cluster "North to South West Iberia" (if we were to divide the Iberian Peninsula in different clusters it would be "West", "Central", "East" and "Basque"). My wife closest match is Galician for example.
what about Leonese and Asturians??

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

what about Leonese and Asturians??

Similar too. At least based on pool sample we have available, which admittedly for some regions in Spain it not as big as it should be but we have to work with what we have available. The closer you start going in the direction OF the Basque Country, the more it starts changing. Cantabria or even the East of Castille y Leon starts showing a higher level of Basque admixture.

[Cristiano viejo]

Similar too. At least based on pool sample we have available, which admittedly for some regions in Spain it not as big as it should be but we have to work with what we have available. The closer you start going in the direction OF the Basque Country, the more it starts changing. Cantabria or even the East of Castille y Leon starts showing a higher level of Basque admixture.

Portuguese are Spanish in denial. Admit or die!

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Portuguese are Spanish in denial. Admit or die!

No, we are two different nations. Portugal is preserving the Iberian paleto culture that Spain lost.

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c000c36f3633547b4b0710b3f30dca95

[vader]

Thanks, now I know not to waste my money on this. I also get castille y leon as my first distance on G25 same with my mom. My dad is very close to Portuguese and Galician references.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Thanks, now I know not to waste my money on this. I also get castille y leon as my first distance on G25 same with my mom. My dad is very close to Portuguese and Galician references.

To be honest I wanted to see if the G25 coordinates that they generate would be different but they are 100% the same as the ones I've had for years from Davidski.

[vader]

To be honest I wanted to see if the G25 coordinates that they generate would be different but they are 100% the same as the ones I've had for years from Davidski.

I was curious about that same thing. Was considering buying it because perhaps it would have small variation from my davidski coordinates which at times confuse me... Maybe I'll test that theory but for now the price tag seems hefty for telling me nothing that I don't already know

[Cristiano viejo]

No, we are two different nations.

Two different nations, I could not care less. Genetically we are the same, or that you say, so you all are Spaniards.

[Beowulf]

To be honest I wanted to see if the G25 coordinates that they generate would be different but they are 100% the same as the ones I've had for years from Davidski.

that's good to know i wanted to know that

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

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[Beowulf]

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https://i.imgur.com/BXvHhmv.png

what do you get in modern?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

what do you get in modern?

https://i.imgur.com/IJo8tUu.png