My origins 3.0 from Ftdna is accurate? Better than gedmatch or G25?

[Ahaddad]

My origins 3.0 from Ftdna is accurate? Better than gedmatch EUROGENES k13 or G25?


What better to use? Because in my case myorigins 3.0 odd

[Ahaddad]

I want know experiences and opinions about myorigins and their method to say the pop predictor

[Eurafricanid]

It's kinda bad for me, it gave me 13% North African.

[HelloGuys]

It's not accurate in general.

[Grace O'Malley]

Yes it is better than Gedmatch or G25 but the best commercial dna companies IMO are 23&Me and Ancestry. FTDNA is best for ydna and mtdna. I think with mixed ancestry from multigenerational admixture is always going to be difficult to get correct. My dna is easy to decipher because it is Irish and recent. I share a lot of long blocks of dna with other Irish people. The more distant and mixed is always going to be a challenge. They might possibly get better in the future.

This is my FTDNA result.

https://i.imgur.com/HysQzAE.png

[vader]

In my case, not very accurate at all.

[noricum]

For me it's a sad joke at best, I get 33% Scandinavian and hardly any Central Euro or West Slavic.

[Ahaddad]

Look this example

Lebanese Dad and Mother Italian from Veneto with Portuguese and little Brazilian.

Middle East & North Africa
63%
Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
47%
Southern Levant
14%
Sephardic Jewish
info
<2%
Arabia
Yemenite Jewish
info
<1%
Europe
37%
Southern Europe
Iberian Peninsula
27%
Western Europe
Central Europe
10%

Vs

Gedmatch EUROGENES K13p

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.79
2 West_Med 18.46
3 West_Asian 17.52
4 North_Atlantic 16.41
5 Red_Sea 6.18
6 Baltic 4.87
7 Northeast_African 3.58
8 South_Asian 1.69
9 Amerindian 1.05
10 Oceanian 0.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 6.13
2 East_Sicilian 6.17
3 Central_Greek 7.24
4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.13
5 Sephardic_Jewish 8.86
6 West_Sicilian 9.15
7 Ashkenazi 9.39
8 Italian_Jewish 10.25
9 Algerian_Jewish 10.77
10 Tunisian_Jewish 11.91
11 Libyan_Jewish 12.18
12 Greek_Thessaly 12.98
13 Cyprian 14.46
14 Tuscan 15.04
15 Lebanese_Muslim 15.82
16 Turkish 16.38
17 Syrian 16.73
18 Jordanian 19.44
19 Palestinian 20.39
20 Samaritan 20.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 30.7% Southwest_French @ 3.25
2 68.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.27
3 66.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.28
4 64.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.32
5 66.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.33
6 66.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.39
7 64.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.4% Portuguese @ 3.44
8 65.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.51
9 66% Lebanese_Muslim + 34% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.51
10 64.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.54
11 57.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 42.6% North_Italian @ 3.57
12 72.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.6% Jordanian @ 3.58
13 55.6% Kurdish_Jewish + 44.4% Portuguese @ 3.68
14 69.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 30.7% Syrian @ 3.69
15 68.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.69
16 57.4% Kurdish_Jewish + 42.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.7
17 65.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.72
18 56% Kurdish_Jewish + 44% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.76
19 57.8% Kurdish_Jewish + 42.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.79
20 56.3% Kurdish_Jewish + 43.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.82

[Lemminkäinen]

23andMe is done for the US market detecting 400 years to the past. It finds best West European genealogical ancestry. Those are pros.

Cons:

- their test can't detect older than 400 years old ancestry or only coincidentally 500-600 years to the past.

- they have two few reference sample groups. They say something else, but the used method groups samples sometimes arbitrarily if the sample doesn't show obvous sililarity with references.

- in certain cases it overestimates certain ancestries. This happens because in certain cases the method overestimates long IBD blocks. This happens if the used reference is homogeneous/inbred.

[Beowulf]

For me was good

[Lemminkäinen]

For me was good

You are not heavily mixed and your kind of ancestral component is common in USA.

[Albannach]

It's pretty inaccurate for me, I'm 50% Scottish 50% Irish yet it doesn't pick up my Scottish at all, not even any GB.

FTDNA is good for haplogroups though.

https://i.imgur.com/cjDdCiF.png

[Ahaddad]

Look this example

Lebanese Dad and Mother Italian from Veneto with Portuguese and little Brazilian.

Middle East & North Africa
63%
Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
47%
Southern Levant
14%
Sephardic Jewish
info
<2%
Arabia
Yemenite Jewish
info
<1%
Europe
37%
Southern Europe
Iberian Peninsula
27%
Western Europe
Central Europe
10%

Vs

Gedmatch EUROGENES K13p

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.79
2 West_Med 18.46
3 West_Asian 17.52
4 North_Atlantic 16.41
5 Red_Sea 6.18
6 Baltic 4.87
7 Northeast_African 3.58
8 South_Asian 1.69
9 Amerindian 1.05
10 Oceanian 0.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 6.13
2 East_Sicilian 6.17
3 Central_Greek 7.24
4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.13
5 Sephardic_Jewish 8.86
6 West_Sicilian 9.15
7 Ashkenazi 9.39
8 Italian_Jewish 10.25
9 Algerian_Jewish 10.77
10 Tunisian_Jewish 11.91
11 Libyan_Jewish 12.18
12 Greek_Thessaly 12.98
13 Cyprian 14.46
14 Tuscan 15.04
15 Lebanese_Muslim 15.82
16 Turkish 16.38
17 Syrian 16.73
18 Jordanian 19.44
19 Palestinian 20.39
20 Samaritan 20.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 30.7% Southwest_French @ 3.25
2 68.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.27
3 66.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.28
4 64.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.32
5 66.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.33
6 66.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.39
7 64.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.4% Portuguese @ 3.44
8 65.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.51
9 66% Lebanese_Muslim + 34% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.51
10 64.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.54
11 57.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 42.6% North_Italian @ 3.57
12 72.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.6% Jordanian @ 3.58
13 55.6% Kurdish_Jewish + 44.4% Portuguese @ 3.68
14 69.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 30.7% Syrian @ 3.69
15 68.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.69
16 57.4% Kurdish_Jewish + 42.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.7
17 65.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.72
18 56% Kurdish_Jewish + 44% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.76
19 57.8% Kurdish_Jewish + 42.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.79
20 56.3% Kurdish_Jewish + 43.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.82


From my admix gedmatch is better ?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

It assigned me 94% Iberian Peninsula so I would say that it is acceptable. Also 2% Magyar, <2% West Slavic, <1% Sephardic Jewish and <1% Maghreb.

[Beowulf]

It's pretty inaccurate for me, I'm 50% Scottish 50% Irish yet it doesn't pick up my Scottish at all, not even any GB.

FTDNA is good for haplogroups though.

https://i.imgur.com/cjDdCiF.png

for my my english went to Central Europe, i've seen other English people results and sometimes they get High Central euro in FTDNA

[Beowulf]

Europe
100%
Southern Europe
Iberian Peninsula 36%
Basque 18%
Sardinia 15%
Italian Peninsula 2%
Western Europe
Central Europe 24%
Ireland 4%
Eastern Europe
East Slavic info <1%
Middle East & North Africa
<1%
North Africa
Maghreb & Egypt
info
<1%
Arabia
Yemenite Jewish
info
<1%
Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
info
<1%

[Nelju]

My results on FTdna are very similar to my G25s at the continental level.

https://i.ibb.co/W07xNkW/ftdna.jpg (https://ibb.co/kJzHV4g)

[HannibaltheGreat]

It's kinda bad for me, it gave me 13% North African.I get 13 percent middle east and north african also. But the majority of my european is labeled central european.
No iberian score

[HannibaltheGreat]

Europe
100%
Southern Europe
Iberian Peninsula 36%
Basque 18%
Sardinia 15%
Italian Peninsula 2%
Western Europe
Central Europe 24%
Ireland 4%
Eastern Europe
East Slavic info

Pretty high sardinian. You get good sardinian scores in other test?

[Eurafricanid]

I get 13 percent middle east and north african also. But the majority of my european is labeled central european.
No iberian score

I have 1% Central European, for some reason, I am supposed to be 50% Iberian 47% SSA and 3% Amerindian,
their results came with: 51% Iberian, 1% Magyar (Hungarian), 13% North African, 34% SSA and 1% Amerindian

[Thracian]

Not accurate for me as well. I get 34% Western Slavic and barely Balkan (5% if I recall it correctly). Instead of Balkans, I have Italian. So, it indeed shifts my Balkan side to Western Balkans. It is obviously not accurate since all of my Turkish ancestors are from Eastern Balkans.

[Ahaddad]

Not accurate for me as well. I get 34% Western Slavic and barely Balkan (5% if I recall it correctly). Instead of Balkans, I have Italian. So, it indeed shifts my Balkan side to Western Balkans. It is obviously not accurate since all of my Turkish ancestors are from Eastern Balkans.

So this Error is not just with me, look my admix

Lebanese Dad and Mother Italian from Veneto with Portuguese and little Brazilian.

Middle East & North Africa
63%
Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
47%
Southern Levant
14%
Sephardic Jewish
info
<2%
Arabia
Yemenite Jewish
info
<1%
Europe
37%
Southern Europe
Iberian Peninsula
27%
Western Europe
Central Europe
10%

Vs

Gedmatch EUROGENES K13p

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.79
2 West_Med 18.46
3 West_Asian 17.52
4 North_Atlantic 16.41
5 Red_Sea 6.18
6 Baltic 4.87
7 Northeast_African 3.58
8 South_Asian 1.69
9 Amerindian 1.05
10 Oceanian 0.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 6.13
2 East_Sicilian 6.17
3 Central_Greek 7.24
4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.13
5 Sephardic_Jewish 8.86
6 West_Sicilian 9.15
7 Ashkenazi 9.39
8 Italian_Jewish 10.25
9 Algerian_Jewish 10.77
10 Tunisian_Jewish 11.91
11 Libyan_Jewish 12.18
12 Greek_Thessaly 12.98
13 Cyprian 14.46
14 Tuscan 15.04
15 Lebanese_Muslim 15.82
16 Turkish 16.38
17 Syrian 16.73
18 Jordanian 19.44
19 Palestinian 20.39
20 Samaritan 20.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 30.7% Southwest_French @ 3.25
2 68.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.27
3 66.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.28
4 64.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.32
5 66.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.33
6 66.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.39
7 64.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.4% Portuguese @ 3.44
8 65.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.51
9 66% Lebanese_Muslim + 34% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.51
10 64.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.54
11 57.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 42.6% North_Italian @ 3.57
12 72.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.6% Jordanian @ 3.58
13 55.6% Kurdish_Jewish + 44.4% Portuguese @ 3.68
14 69.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 30.7% Syrian @ 3.69
15 68.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.69
16 57.4% Kurdish_Jewish + 42.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.7
17 65.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.72
18 56% Kurdish_Jewish + 44% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.76
19 57.8% Kurdish_Jewish + 42.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.79
20 56.3% Kurdish_Jewish + 43.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.82

[Peterski]

My results:

https://i.imgur.com/AmD5qEz.png

[Annihilus]

I get the same euro as 23andme but the Malta part is a bit weird.

https://i.imgur.com/cSKRnVm.jpg

[Beowulf]

Pretty high sardinian. You get good sardinian scores in other test?

Sorry didn't saw the reply.

Yes i usually get some Sardinian in other test named Tell Me Gen i remember having around 14%

the rest was like half iberian, high French basque and 20% British(that's good but should be a bit lower)

[Dušan]

https://i.imgur.com/jjmr92X.png

[happycow]

was good for me

[Kriptc06]

No it's garbage, dont take it too seriously. I recommend 23andMe

[celticdragongod]

My results from FtDNA were pretty accurate since as far as I know my ancestry is entirely Irish.

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[celticdragongod]

It's pretty inaccurate for me, I'm 50% Scottish 50% Irish yet it doesn't pick up my Scottish at all, not even any GB.

FTDNA is good for haplogroups though.

https://i.imgur.com/cjDdCiF.png

It is probably more difficult to differentiate between closely related populations such as the Irish and the Scots.

[happycow]

No it's garbage, dont take it too seriously. I recommend 23andMe

23andme is garbage for me so :noidea: