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DraviXi99
02-07-2023, 05:29 PM
For now,the only one i can think of is the berid component in southern portugal.

Beowulf
02-07-2023, 05:46 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/6qgMc1Z5/alpinid.gif (https://postimages.org/)

Alpinid phenotype

Beowulf
02-07-2023, 06:00 PM
For now,the only one i can think of is the berid component in southern portugal.

btw Berid is a CM related phenotype nothing to do with Alpinid

another CM phenotypes related with Berid would be Brunn or Paleo Atlantid

Oliver109
02-07-2023, 07:09 PM
For now,the only one i can think of is the berid component in southern portugal.

Quite a few though usually mixed with med elements, Alicante where my family are from is quite alpine though the most alpine areas are on the North coast and around Madrid. Spanish alpines are less pure than ones from France though generally.

DraviXi99
02-07-2023, 09:13 PM
btw Berid is a CM related phenotype nothing to do with Alpinid

another CM phenotypes related with Berid would be Brunn or Paleo Atlantid

Thanks.

Sacrificed Ram
02-07-2023, 09:22 PM
btw Berid is a CM related phenotype nothing to do with Alpinid

another CM phenotypes related with Berid would be Brunn or Paleo Atlantid.

As Berberid, and why not, African Alpine.

Beowulf
02-07-2023, 09:25 PM
As Berberid, and why not, African Alpine.

true i forget them btw Canarid was also CM?

Septentrion
02-07-2023, 09:34 PM
For now,the only one i can think of is the berid component in southern portugal.

No, not the Berid. Alpines are found in Iberia, especially in Northern Spain nearer to France. However their racial phenotype cannot dominate in this part of Europe, as it is the most Mediterranid racial zone of the continent. Although as Oliver109 said, that quite few are already mixed with the dominant race ( Mediterranean). Thus it’s a lot less frequent to encounter an Alpinid phenotype than in France or even Italy but they are present.

Marshall Theodore
02-07-2023, 09:36 PM
Yes, Alpine influence (at least Alpinized types) is often in Iberia, even not being the dominant phenotype.

Latinus
02-07-2023, 09:39 PM
Yes. Alpines are the glue that keep Europe from breaking apart.

Gallop
02-07-2023, 09:41 PM
There are no alpines in Spain, they are all in the Alps.

Damiăo de Góis
02-07-2023, 10:22 PM
Difficult to say. Someone like this could be considered short headed and broad faced, but could also easily be classified as Berid:

https://static-storage.dnoticias.pt/www-assets.dnoticias.pt/images/configuration/OR/98204785_10158585890548991_8590830247300038656_n.j pg

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-07-2023, 10:25 PM
For now,the only one i can think of is the berid component in southern portugal.

Why Southern Portugal? What people call Berid can be found elsewhere in the Peninsula.

DraviXi99
02-07-2023, 11:05 PM
Difficult to say. Someone like this could be considered short headed and broad faced, but could also easily be classified as Berid:

https://static-storage.dnoticias.pt/www-assets.dnoticias.pt/images/configuration/OR/98204785_10158585890548991_8590830247300038656_n.j pg

IMO he looks more berid,maybe except the fact that he has light (grey ?) eyes and brown hair.

ecptr
02-07-2023, 11:07 PM
I saw a few who seem to be a reduced Alpine.

Sacrificed Ram
02-08-2023, 09:47 PM
true i forget them btw Canarid was also CM?

Yes, but some authors consider Canarid just Faelid(!), or Berberid or Paleoatlantid, then as whole they all are unreduced CM variants, close to original CM.

Immanenz
02-09-2023, 09:25 AM
IMO he looks more berid,maybe except the fact that he has light (grey ?) eyes and brown hair.

well, he is most likely pred. Alpine if this Spanish Basque was classified by as pred. Alpine too

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe121.jpg

Also searching for full CM- "Canarids" is like searching for Turanids in the British Isles. Its just a collection of light haired/featured Berbers.