Archaic human G25 calculator

[Beowulf]

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/149/archaic-calculator-yvngfinn.htm


Homo_Sapiens,0.108644,0.261368909,-0.227160545,-0.470805091,-0.0808105,-0.169071318,-0.026654727,-0.063189091,-0.0310245,0.160902773,0.037648364,0.047123773,-0.073550318,0.004919318,-0.163295409,-0.097243045,0.046586136,-0.016285182,0.042964182,-0.092906227,-0.152549227,-0.001123591,0.053765273,0.197543545,-0.031514136
Neanderthal,0.84087799,-6.7192345,20.6968032,32.1500494,12.4285089,11.3713 655,2.53741812,5.19675995,6.47883949,-6.6814968,-2.8242348,-3.1333248,4.43371008,-0.5738515,10.7909010,8.25064570,-2.2075946,1.07470791,-2.5395749,7.36791812,12.8394381,0.58124245,-5.2139333,-18.310203,2.57247916
Neanderthal,1.0982665,-9.093616,27.9339016,43.3882236,16.8880312,15.23611 98,3.3192722,7.0418535,8.9322503,-8.8024315,-3.8323242,-4.161041,5.9231004,-0.7426401,14.7367506,11.0627314,-2.9688952,1.5539389,-3.4268829,10.0347665,17.4846094,0.785482,-7.1903829,-25.069967,3.4880909
Neanderthal,1.57311199,-13.699837,41.6207669,64.7709040,24.9378284,22.9118 024,5.10149097,10.4567090,12.9887034,-13.523896,-5.6861180,-6.3137735,8.94097048,-1.1526224,21.7450974,16.5985344,-4.4617754,2.16570101,-5.1221140,14.8287424,25.8314254,1.16360850,-10.481632,-36.817950,5.17647246
Neanderthal,0.88080949,-6.8617765,21.4841347,33.2437174,13.2977564,11.4251 915,2.31890762,5.47209145,7.32920799,-6.2019018,-2.9866198,-3.0360248,4.39462058,-0.5014465,11.6742535,8.33901420,-2.2373156,1.42140791,-2.6189599,7.90763912,13.7829646,0.61159495,-5.8755833,-20.081748,2.71532116
Denisovan,-6.4534909,-18.429541,-45.609803,-67.912995,-27.359720,-20.152210,-4.6125033,-11.377709,-18.489994,8.44701612,2.81365066,5.26683712,-7.4364144,0.72874391,-23.029694,-17.131745,3.68406733,-2.8989210,4.69361758,-16.808559,-28.069242,-1.2063140,13.4991101,43.1883027,-5.6876073
Denisovan,-2.8226003,-8.3997992,-11.3531333,-10.7899111,-7.8668868,-10.99575,-0.756896,-1.972371,-4.6623909,1.0817438,2.5020104,1.3191114,-1.6431738,-0.1146428,-5.2364352,-4.118157,0.5836481,-0.524449,1.3131962,-3.7615233,-6.1260608,-0.555663,3.5535454,10.3342395,-1.0979408
African_Hominin,-18.172765,-4.6607038,6.02342807,11.7252771,2.01350699,4.28953 663,0.06687594,2.18862318,-0.2256219,-3.1634765,-0.7599457,-1.2569505,2.20979513,-0.1051611,4.17525981,2.15193557,-0.8825622,0.55672436,-1.0052153,2.21997694,3.73761144,0.05981118,-1.3747165,-4.7474475,0.75184426
African_Hominin,-24.266569,-6.3013947,8.10695762,15.7906379,2.71161283,5.77573 928,0.09805283,2.93922727,-0.2904878,-4.2716029,-1.0258104,-1.6916419,2.97091028,-0.1418546,5.62144489,2.90166178,-1.1922783,0.74772755,-1.3546085,2.99093800,5.03433167,0.08012277,-1.8508771,-6.3957779,1.0129637

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 10.1589% / 0.10158863
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[HelloGuys]

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 20.9724% / 0.20972416
96.4 Homo_Sapiens
2.4 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan
0.2 African_Hominin

Compared with Living DNA Archaic Human DNA:

2.15% Neanderthal
0.23% Denisovan

[Jingle Bell]

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 20.9724% / 0.20972416
96.4 Homo_Sapiens
2.4 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan
0.2 African_Hominin

Compared with Living DNA Archaic Human DNA:

2.15% Neanderthal
0.23% Denisovan

Damn, the accuracy suprised me

[Jingle Bell]

Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 7.7221% / 0.07722128
96.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 African_Hominin
1.0 Neanderthal_(Ooga_Booga_Gang)
0.6 Denisovan

Damn i have a lot of neanderthal for the expected (Iberians have abt 1.6%)

[Gallop]

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/149/archaic-calculator-yvngfinn.htm[/code]

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 10.1589% / 0.10158863
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

Nos sale este mismo resultado a mi padre y a mí y él obtenía dos y pico en Nearderthal y en Denisovan obteníamos uno y pico, pero bueno no está mal.

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 10.3481% / 0.10348091
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 9.1917% / 0.09191702
98.2 Homo_Sapiens
1.4 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 10.9392% / 0.10939212
98.0 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan


I did a calculator based on K13 coordinates with a Neanderthal reference, not very reliable a K13 Neanderthal reference but.... :D

[Beowulf]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 10.3481% / 0.10348091
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 9.1917% / 0.09191702
98.2 Homo_Sapiens
1.4 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 10.9392% / 0.10939212
98.0 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan


I did a calculator based on K13 coordinates with a Neanderthal reference, not very reliable a K13 Neanderthal reference but.... :D

i could maybe simulate it to g25 and add it to the calc if you still have the neanderthal's k13 coordinates.

[paradox]

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 12.6736% / 0.12673588
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 15.3526% / 0.15352599
97.2 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan

[alnortedelsur]

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 11.6305% / 0.11630532
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan
0.2 African_Hominin

[Defcon2]

Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 18.4082% / 0.18408249
97.0 Homo_Sapiens
2.4 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[Lemminkäinen]

Surprise, Homo Sapiens, but the best cousin African hominin.



Distance to: MauriJussi1m_scaled
0.79790351 Homo_Sapiens
25.31058236 African_Hominin
27.76880330 Denisovan
33.92418263 African_Hominin
52.21252568 Neanderthal
54.73345255 Neanderthal
70.70779813 Neanderthal
105.20047180 Neanderthal
113.70841676 Denisovan

Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 15.8532% / 0.15853175
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[HelloGuys]

Damn, the accuracy suprised me

Well, it gave me 4-5 times more denisovan but yeah, I understand your point.

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.76018760 Homo_Sapiens
25.34033494 African_Hominin
27.75879833 Denisovan
33.95407313 African_Hominin
52.24547450 Neanderthal
54.76549777 Neanderthal
70.74053796 Neanderthal
105.23346220 Neanderthal
113.68866982 Denisovan

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 15.9383% / 0.15938250
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[Mingle]

Target: Mingle
Distance: 24.0931% / 0.24093124
96.4 Homo_Sapiens
2.0 Neanderthal
1.6 Denisovan

[alexmegas777]

Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
0.70537576 Homo_Sapiens
25.37441259 African_Hominin
27.71882379 Denisovan
33.98838299 African_Hominin
52.29535134 Neanderthal
54.81456050 Neanderthal
70.79023063 Neanderthal
105.28338060 Neanderthal
113.64231472 Denisovan

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 14.9968% / 0.14996801
97.2 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan

[Julkka]

Distance to: Julkka_scaled
0.81813694 Homo_Sapiens
25.29628099 African_Hominin
27.77576726 Denisovan
33.90979609 African_Hominin
52.19231172 Neanderthal
54.71329155 Neanderthal
70.68759341 Neanderthal
105.18025336 Neanderthal
113.72240598 Denisovan

Target: Julkka_scaled
Distance: 15.3605% / 0.15360492
97.0 Homo_Sapiens
2.0 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan

[SouthDutch7991]

Target: SouthDutch7991_scaled
Distance: 0.1359% / 0.13586912
97.7 Homo_Sapiens
2.0 Neanderthal
0.3 Denisovan

Seems fairly similar to what I saw on DNA tests.

[Thambi]

Target: Thambi_scaled
Distance: 30.0277% / 0.30027705
95.8 Homo_Sapiens
2.0 Neanderthal
1.8 Denisovan
0.4 African_Hominin

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 10.1515% / 0.10151501
98.0 Homo_Sapiens
1.4 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan
0.2 African_Hominin

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 9.2919% / 0.09291853
98.0 Homo_Sapiens
1.4 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan
0.2 African_Hominin

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 10.4685% / 0.10468523
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[vader]

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 9.5830% / 0.09583004
98.0 Homo_Sapiens
1.4 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan
0.2 African_Hominin

Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 10.3299% / 0.10329937
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 9.8566% / 0.09856604
98.0 Homo_Sapiens
1.4 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan
0.2 African_Hominin

Target: LusoGF_Simulated
Distance: 16.1113% / 0.16111306
97.6 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[Dick]

you're all fags


Target: dick
Distance: 13.4044% / 0.13404423
97.8 Hetero_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[Danjojo]

Target: Danjojo
Distance: 19.9824% / 0.19982383
96.8 Homo_Sapiens
2.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[Eurafricanid]

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 7.5024% / 0.07502380
96.6 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 African_Hominin
1.0 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[Eurafricanid]

Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 7.7221% / 0.07722128
96.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 African_Hominin
1.0 Neanderthal_(Ooga_Booga_Gang)
0.6 Denisovan

Damn i have a lot of neanderthal for the expected (Iberians have abt 1.6%)

Part of that is that 3% Amerindian we have.

Also, we're basically the same person, lol

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 7.5024% / 0.07502380
96.6 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 African_Hominin
1.0 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 15.1433% / 0.15143342
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[gixajo]

i could maybe simulate it to g25 and add it to the calc if you still have the neanderthal's k13 coordinates.

I doubt those simulated coords work fine, take into account that Gedmatch calculator components are based generally on modern people.

I don´t find the K13 model I posted here, but I´ve found the ancient datasheet where I took the references from.

Neandertal:


Altai_Neanderthal:Altai,0.00,0.05,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.20,17.85,79.91
Chagyrskaya_Neanderthal:Chagyrskaya,0.00,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.18,17.37,80. 45
Goyet_Neanderthal:Goyet_final,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.91,18.18,78.91

Denisovan:


Denisova:Denisova,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.67,15.33,82.00

Mixed Neanderthal/Denisovan


DenisovaNeanderthalMix:Denisova11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.43,17.96,78.62

I will see if I found Gedmatch number kits of any Neanderthal or Denisovan to see their K36, it will not work anyway but probably will be better than just use K13 coordinates to simulate G25.

[gixajo]

i could maybe simulate it to g25 and add it to the calc if you still have the neanderthal's k13 coordinates.

I´ve found a Denisovan and a Neanderthal Gedmatch kit numbers, but they could have been removed.


Altai Neanderthal Denisova Cave, Siberia F999902 F 50,000 years
Denisova Denisova Cave, Siberia F999903 F 30,000 years

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 10.4750% / 0.10474972
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[Beowulf]

I´ve found a Denisovan and a Neanderthal Gedmatch kit numbers, but they could have been removed.

Thanks a lot i will see if the kits still exists so i can add them here

[Beowulf]

I´ve found a Denisovan and a Neanderthal Gedmatch kit numbers, but they could have been removed.

i added them and my results changed a bit:

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 25.0133% / 0.25013300
96.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.6 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan


try it pls:


Denisovan,-0.656466,0.054362,0.015994,0.041173,0.006527,-0.002359,0.333367,-0.254988,0.014498,0.031159,-0.010246,0.159769,0.095181,0.004099,0.008777,-0.003271,0.004905,0.007209,-0.006640,0.007810,-0.000103,0.000369,-0.000980,0.002798,0.009214
Neanderthal,-0.621946,0.043279,0.020075,0.038932,0.006190,0.000 094,0.336521,-0.261188,0.016508,0.029721,-0.011625,0.163514,0.095079,0.003433,0.009369,-0.002174,0.003184,0.005056,-0.005519,0.007280,0.000698,-0.000521,-0.001221,0.003232,0.007210
Homo_Sapiens,0.108644,0.261368909,-0.227160545,-0.470805091,-0.0808105,-0.169071318,-0.026654727,-0.063189091,-0.0310245,0.160902773,0.037648364,0.047123773,-0.073550318,0.004919318,-0.163295409,-0.097243045,0.046586136,-0.016285182,0.042964182,-0.092906227,-0.152549227,-0.001123591,0.053765273,0.197543545,-0.031514136
Neanderthal,0.84087799,-6.7192345,20.6968032,32.1500494,12.4285089,11.3713 655,2.53741812,5.19675995,6.47883949,-6.6814968,-2.8242348,-3.1333248,4.43371008,-0.5738515,10.7909010,8.25064570,-2.2075946,1.07470791,-2.5395749,7.36791812,12.8394381,0.58124245,-5.2139333,-18.310203,2.57247916
Neanderthal,1.0982665,-9.093616,27.9339016,43.3882236,16.8880312,15.23611 98,3.3192722,7.0418535,8.9322503,-8.8024315,-3.8323242,-4.161041,5.9231004,-0.7426401,14.7367506,11.0627314,-2.9688952,1.5539389,-3.4268829,10.0347665,17.4846094,0.785482,-7.1903829,-25.069967,3.4880909
Neanderthal,1.57311199,-13.699837,41.6207669,64.7709040,24.9378284,22.9118 024,5.10149097,10.4567090,12.9887034,-13.523896,-5.6861180,-6.3137735,8.94097048,-1.1526224,21.7450974,16.5985344,-4.4617754,2.16570101,-5.1221140,14.8287424,25.8314254,1.16360850,-10.481632,-36.817950,5.17647246
Neanderthal,0.88080949,-6.8617765,21.4841347,33.2437174,13.2977564,11.4251 915,2.31890762,5.47209145,7.32920799,-6.2019018,-2.9866198,-3.0360248,4.39462058,-0.5014465,11.6742535,8.33901420,-2.2373156,1.42140791,-2.6189599,7.90763912,13.7829646,0.61159495,-5.8755833,-20.081748,2.71532116
Denisovan,-6.4534909,-18.429541,-45.609803,-67.912995,-27.359720,-20.152210,-4.6125033,-11.377709,-18.489994,8.44701612,2.81365066,5.26683712,-7.4364144,0.72874391,-23.029694,-17.131745,3.68406733,-2.8989210,4.69361758,-16.808559,-28.069242,-1.2063140,13.4991101,43.1883027,-5.6876073
Denisovan,-2.8226003,-8.3997992,-11.3531333,-10.7899111,-7.8668868,-10.99575,-0.756896,-1.972371,-4.6623909,1.0817438,2.5020104,1.3191114,-1.6431738,-0.1146428,-5.2364352,-4.118157,0.5836481,-0.524449,1.3131962,-3.7615233,-6.1260608,-0.555663,3.5535454,10.3342395,-1.0979408
African_Hominin,-18.172765,-4.6607038,6.02342807,11.7252771,2.01350699,4.28953 663,0.06687594,2.18862318,-0.2256219,-3.1634765,-0.7599457,-1.2569505,2.20979513,-0.1051611,4.17525981,2.15193557,-0.8825622,0.55672436,-1.0052153,2.21997694,3.73761144,0.05981118,-1.3747165,-4.7474475,0.75184426
African_Hominin,-24.266569,-6.3013947,8.10695762,15.7906379,2.71161283,5.77573 928,0.09805283,2.93922727,-0.2904878,-4.2716029,-1.0258104,-1.6916419,2.97091028,-0.1418546,5.62144489,2.90166178,-1.1922783,0.74772755,-1.3546085,2.99093800,5.03433167,0.08012277,-1.8508771,-6.3957779,1.0129637


i simulated the from K36

[gixajo]

i added them and my results changed a bit:


i simulated the from K36

Probably they don´t work well. These are the results of the last 2 simulated references modelled with your initial calculator:

Target: Denisovan
Distance: 49.5887% / 0.49588674
95.8 Homo_Sapiens
3.6 African_Hominin
0.4 Denisovan
0.2 Neanderthal

Target: Neanderthal
Distance: 50.2566% / 0.50256600
95.4 Homo_Sapiens
3.6 African_Hominin
0.6 Denisovan
0.4 Neanderthal

It´s what I told you, gedmatch components are usually based on modern groups.

Seeing their K13 coordinates, those Neanderthal&Denisovans are made with a base of Yoruba+East Africans.

If your first coordinates were directly from samples raw data to G25, they should be more accurate.

[Mayuk24]

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/149/archaic-calculator-yvngfinn.htm


Target: Ivorix
Distance: 10.1589% / 0.10158863
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan



Target: Mayuk24_scaled
Distance: 16.5222% / 0.16522238
96.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
1.2 Denisovan
0.2 African_Hominin


c:

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 25.2685% / 0.25268511
96.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.6 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 19.3548% / 0.19354786
97.2 Homo_Sapiens
2.2 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan


In livingdna my father gets more Neardenthal than I do, but well it more or less hovers around there.

[Ugo]

It turns out that the races of people are not races at all, but different types of people? Like gorillas and chimpanzees.

Press several times to shorten the distance, it turned out:

Target: Vjatich_scaled
Distance: 16.0482% / 0.16048183
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan



i added them and my results changed a bit:

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 25.0133% / 0.25013300
96.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.6 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan


try it pls:


Denisovan,-0.656466,0.054362,0.015994,0.041173,0.006527,-0.002359,0.333367,-0.254988,0.014498,0.031159,-0.010246,0.159769,0.095181,0.004099,0.008777,-0.003271,0.004905,0.007209,-0.006640,0.007810,-0.000103,0.000369,-0.000980,0.002798,0.009214
Neanderthal,-0.621946,0.043279,0.020075,0.038932,0.006190,0.000 094,0.336521,-0.261188,0.016508,0.029721,-0.011625,0.163514,0.095079,0.003433,0.009369,-0.002174,0.003184,0.005056,-0.005519,0.007280,0.000698,-0.000521,-0.001221,0.003232,0.007210
Homo_Sapiens,0.108644,0.261368909,-0.227160545,-0.470805091,-0.0808105,-0.169071318,-0.026654727,-0.063189091,-0.0310245,0.160902773,0.037648364,0.047123773,-0.073550318,0.004919318,-0.163295409,-0.097243045,0.046586136,-0.016285182,0.042964182,-0.092906227,-0.152549227,-0.001123591,0.053765273,0.197543545,-0.031514136
Neanderthal,0.84087799,-6.7192345,20.6968032,32.1500494,12.4285089,11.3713 655,2.53741812,5.19675995,6.47883949,-6.6814968,-2.8242348,-3.1333248,4.43371008,-0.5738515,10.7909010,8.25064570,-2.2075946,1.07470791,-2.5395749,7.36791812,12.8394381,0.58124245,-5.2139333,-18.310203,2.57247916
Neanderthal,1.0982665,-9.093616,27.9339016,43.3882236,16.8880312,15.23611 98,3.3192722,7.0418535,8.9322503,-8.8024315,-3.8323242,-4.161041,5.9231004,-0.7426401,14.7367506,11.0627314,-2.9688952,1.5539389,-3.4268829,10.0347665,17.4846094,0.785482,-7.1903829,-25.069967,3.4880909
Neanderthal,1.57311199,-13.699837,41.6207669,64.7709040,24.9378284,22.9118 024,5.10149097,10.4567090,12.9887034,-13.523896,-5.6861180,-6.3137735,8.94097048,-1.1526224,21.7450974,16.5985344,-4.4617754,2.16570101,-5.1221140,14.8287424,25.8314254,1.16360850,-10.481632,-36.817950,5.17647246
Neanderthal,0.88080949,-6.8617765,21.4841347,33.2437174,13.2977564,11.4251 915,2.31890762,5.47209145,7.32920799,-6.2019018,-2.9866198,-3.0360248,4.39462058,-0.5014465,11.6742535,8.33901420,-2.2373156,1.42140791,-2.6189599,7.90763912,13.7829646,0.61159495,-5.8755833,-20.081748,2.71532116
Denisovan,-6.4534909,-18.429541,-45.609803,-67.912995,-27.359720,-20.152210,-4.6125033,-11.377709,-18.489994,8.44701612,2.81365066,5.26683712,-7.4364144,0.72874391,-23.029694,-17.131745,3.68406733,-2.8989210,4.69361758,-16.808559,-28.069242,-1.2063140,13.4991101,43.1883027,-5.6876073
Denisovan,-2.8226003,-8.3997992,-11.3531333,-10.7899111,-7.8668868,-10.99575,-0.756896,-1.972371,-4.6623909,1.0817438,2.5020104,1.3191114,-1.6431738,-0.1146428,-5.2364352,-4.118157,0.5836481,-0.524449,1.3131962,-3.7615233,-6.1260608,-0.555663,3.5535454,10.3342395,-1.0979408
African_Hominin,-18.172765,-4.6607038,6.02342807,11.7252771,2.01350699,4.28953 663,0.06687594,2.18862318,-0.2256219,-3.1634765,-0.7599457,-1.2569505,2.20979513,-0.1051611,4.17525981,2.15193557,-0.8825622,0.55672436,-1.0052153,2.21997694,3.73761144,0.05981118,-1.3747165,-4.7474475,0.75184426
African_Hominin,-24.266569,-6.3013947,8.10695762,15.7906379,2.71161283,5.77573 928,0.09805283,2.93922727,-0.2904878,-4.2716029,-1.0258104,-1.6916419,2.97091028,-0.1418546,5.62144489,2.90166178,-1.1922783,0.74772755,-1.3546085,2.99093800,5.03433167,0.08012277,-1.8508771,-6.3957779,1.0129637


i simulated the from K36

Target: Vjatych_scaled
Distance: 16.8889% / 0.16888881
97.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.0 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan

Target: German
Distance: 15.8301% / 0.15830107
97.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.0 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan

Target: Australian aborigen
Distance: 30.8392% / 0.30839166
87.8 Homo_Sapiens
9.2 Denisovan
3.0 Neanderthal

Target: Yoruba aborigen
Distance: 19.7948% / 0.19794800
95.2 Homo_Sapiens
3.0 African_Hominin :confused:
1.2 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[Demirkazık]

Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 14.4608% / 0.14460821
97.0 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
1.2 Denisovan

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 32.0675% / 0.32067515
95.6 Homo_Sapiens
3.4 Neanderthal :cool:
1.0 Denisovan

Target: cass
Distance: 15.4430% / 0.15442989
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[DomitiusAurelian]

Target: Domitius_scaled
Distance: 25.9289% / 0.25928913
96.2 Homo_Sapiens
2.8 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan

[Katarzyna]

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 26.1164% / 0.26116373
96.2 Homo_Sapiens
3.0 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[Erronkari]

Target: INDOMESTIZO_scaled
Distance: 9.6750% / 0.09674960
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[Frowning Man]

Target: Rati
Distance: 21.0428% / 0.21042754
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan

[Ugo]

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 26.1164% / 0.26116373
96.2 Homo_Sapiens
3.0 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan
Which calculator is this, the first or the second? 4% is too much. There is also a lot of distance for Europa. Try several times to shorten the distance.

[Katarzyna]

I tested 155 TA- members from northern half of Europe (Baltics, Scandinavia, British Isles, Western and Central Europe) and obviously the ones with the highest Baltic HG were the closest Neanderthal distance.
Vjatych, you are king of the Neanderthals!

https://i.ibb.co/Gp80cv0/IMG-3820.png (https://ibb.co/QQTfrFf)

[Frowning Man]

https://sun9-9.userapi.com/impg/JU_kgIGPmYPFWGNBchb8_f5oxN7EStKjqaLTWQ/6NshLsf7_cw.jpg?size=932x1080&quality=95&sign=4799a229802694ae04bd5ab96c5b2fde&type=album
https://sun9-59.userapi.com/impg/oEjDj1X9prMgZ3FdsMtwdIc6dAIlGkUmDj2eHA/Qutw5eHMn8s.jpg?size=1080x816&quality=95&sign=632c367c335d9c2b98382fdf420b700f&type=album

[majevica]

Distance: 12.8255% / 0.12825546
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

Second calc

Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 12.8665% / 0.12866528
97.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.2 Neanderthal
0.2 Denisovan

[Ugo]

Africans are 19% not Homo Sapiens, but archaic people who separated from the ancestors of Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens more than 200 thousand years ago. Even about a million years ago. Are they Australopithecines or even more archaic people or not even people?

While introgression from Neanderthals and Denisovans has been documented in modern humans outside Africa, the contribution of archaic hominins to the genetic variation of present-day Africans remains poorly understood. We provide complementary lines of evidence for archaic introgression into four West African populations. Our analyses of site frequency spectra indicate that these populations derive 2 to 19% of their genetic ancestry from an archaic population that diverged before the split of Neanderthals and modern humans. Using a method that can identify segments of archaic ancestry without the need for reference archaic genomes, we built genome-wide maps of archaic ancestry in the Yoruba and the Mende populations. Analyses of these maps reveal segments of archaic ancestry at high frequency in these populations that represent potential targets of adaptive introgression. Our results reveal the substantial contribution of archaic ancestry in shaping the gene pool of present-day West African populations.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097

[Annihilus]

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 14.5240% / 0.14524030
97.6 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan


Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 14.4859% / 0.14485854
95.4 Homo_Sapiens
4.2 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan

[Ugo]

I'm sorry, but 17 percent is too much
Target: South_Africa
Distance: 16.2157% / 0.16215687
82.6 Homo_Sapiens
13.6 Denisovan
3.0 African_Hominin
0.8 Neanderthal

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 10.1512% / 0.10151223
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neandertal
0.6 Denisovano

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 13.6075% / 0.13607484
97.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.0 Neandertal
0.4 Denisovano

[Nurzat]

I expected my dad has more, as he's more Northern and more Eastern

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 19.3986% / 0.19398605
97.0 Homo_Sapiens
2.4 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan


Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 15.3780% / 0.15377959
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[Ugo]

Interestingly, the Chinese and Japanese have many hominids, but they are the smartest nation in the world. African hominids are close to homo sapiens, but Africans lag behind. Southwestern Europeans and residents of the Caucasus are the least hominid. But their civilization is very weak today.

[Ugo]

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 14.4859% / 0.14485854
95.4 Homo_Sapiens
4.2 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan
The second calculator is bullshit. Because one Neanderthal and one Denisovan are Homo sapiens. There's a mistake.

[Annihilus]

The second calculator is bullshit. Because one Neanderthal and one Denisovan are Homo sapiens. There's a mistake.

yes second is too high, the first one is good

[Petalpusher]

Calc1
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 12.9129% / 0.12912886
98.0 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan


Calc2
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 28.0746% / 0.28074628
96.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.6 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan


Distance to: Petalpusher
0.74360575 Homo_Sapiens
0.90836571 Neanderthal
0.93321137 Denisovan
25.36130835 African_Hominin
27.76607754 Denisovan
33.97506796 African_Hominin
52.25593992 Neanderthal
54.77509238 Neanderthal
70.75080217 Neanderthal
105.24397278 Neanderthal
113.68798606 Denisovan

[true_southron]

Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 11.5360% / 0.11535999
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

Not the best one given that Dnagenics assigned me 1.98% Neanderthal and 0.98% Denisovan.

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 15.6170% / 0.15616958
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[sarmsaksogan]

first calc:

Target: sarmsaksogan(kurd)_scaled
Distance: 18.3458% / 0.18345789
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan

second calc:

Target: sarmsaksogan(kurd)_scaled
Distance: 21.4198% / 0.21419757
96.8 Homo_Sapiens
2.2 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan

[Petalpusher]

What is this "African hominin"? I don't think we have the archaics yet of Africa from the time of Neanderthal and the likes, or it's that Naledi thing?

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Interestingly enough, Neanderthal ancestry doesn't seem to peak in Europeans.

https://i.imgur.com/6g57HtB.png
https://i.imgur.com/67EqeKT.png

[rothaer]

Interestingly enough, Neanderthal ancestry doesn't seem to peak in Europeans.


It's because of the Campanian Ignimbrite eruption from abt. 39,500 ybp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campanian_Ignimbrite_eruption

Prior to this event individuals like Oase1 had the notably elevated Neaderthal contribution like it could be expected for Europeans. But both these first modern humans as well as the Neanderthals became wiped out (or dwarfed to irrelevance) in the context of this event and Europe later became re-settled from the east by folks that had the average Neanderthal contribution of non-Africans.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

It's because of the Campanian Ignimbrite eruption from abt. 39,500 ybp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campanian_Ignimbrite_eruption

It is very curious how this eruption (37,500-38,000 BC) coincides perfectly with the disappearance of the last Neanderthals of which we have records (38,972 BC Spy_final; 37,290 BC Feldhofer 2 or 36,360 BC Vindija 33.25).

I am actually skeptical of theories that impute the disappearance of Neanderthals (or Neanderthal-Sapiens mixes in this case) due to natural disasters or eruptions. I mean, Neanderthals have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, and it seems unlikely to me that a sudden eruption would make them all extinct. But who knows...


Oase1 had the notably elevated Neaderthal contribution like it could be expected for Europeans. But both these first modern humans as well as the Neanderthals became wiped out (or dwarfed to irrelevance) in the context of this event and Europe later became re-settled from the east by folks that had the average Neanderthal contribution of non-Africans.

True.

[Kess]

Target: kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 16.1775% / 0.16177481
97.6 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[unmoggable]

Target: unmoggable
Distance: 15.3335% / 0.15333522
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[Upsilander]

Target: UpsilanderScaled
Distance: 15.3536% / 0.15353551
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan


Distance to: UpsilanderScaled
0.75598330 Homo_Sapiens
25.35129711 African_Hominin
27.76621829 Denisovan
33.96501329 African_Hominin
52.24605037 Neanderthal
54.76575988 Neanderthal
70.74104593 Neanderthal
105.23406430 Neanderthal
113.69262829 Denisovan

[Vessna]

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 16.7131% / 0.16713111
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[tipirneni]

Target: dante-HW-sim_scaled
Distance: 28.4225% / 0.28422525
95.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.8 Neanderthal
1.4 Denisovan
0.2 African_Hominin

[tipirneni]

Second Calc moves it to more Neanderthal and Denisovan

Target: dante-HW-sim_scaled
Distance: 30.7354% / 0.30735365
92.0 Homo_Sapiens
5.0 Denisovan
3.0 Neanderthal

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

Target: Ice_scaled
Distance: 14.4104% / 0.14410354
97.2 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan
0.2 African_Hominin

blacked :D :D

[Ylla]

Target: Ylla_scaled
Distance: 13.9497% / 0.13949729
97.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.0 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan

[Anatolya]

Target: Anatolya_scaled
Distance: 16.2068% / 0.16206810
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
1.0 Denisovan

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

Target: Homo Mopius_scaled
Distance: 11.6739% / 0.11673918
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.6 Denisovan

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

I got the exact same results as Beowulf !

[Fabricius]

Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 9.8074% / 0.09807450
97.8 Homo_Sapiens
1.4 Neanderthal
0.4 African_Hominin
0.4 Denisovan

Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.71214716 Homo_Sapiens
25.32047107 African_Hominin
27.71866133 Denisovan
33.93465633 African_Hominin
52.28869800 Neanderthal
54.80755613 Neanderthal
70.78348519 Neanderthal
105.27672566 Neanderthal
113.64591146 Denisovan

***

The samples are scaled, right?
I'm going to risk sounding ignorant. Okay, I'm not a geneticist or biologist.
But why is Chimp Clint closer than "hominids"?

I think Clint's coordinate is fake (regardless of whether simulated).
I think they forced it. If on purpose, I don't know.
"Just for 'fun' ", right?

Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 24.4281% / 0.24428139
96.6 Homo_Sapiens
2.6 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.71214716 Homo_Sapiens
0.89298862 Chimp_Clint_simulated_g25_scaled
25.32047107 African_Hominin
27.71866133 Denisovan
33.93465633 African_Hominin
52.28869800 Neanderthal
54.80755613 Neanderthal
70.78348519 Neanderthal
105.27672566 Neanderthal
113.64591146 Denisovan

[Pater Patota]

Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 16.3453% / 0.16345315
97.6 Homo_Sapiens
1.6 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan

[Voskos]

I score the highest homosapiens in this thread. Beat me if you can:

Target: voskos
Distance: 10.7040% / 0.10704009
98.2 Homo_Sapiens
1.4 Neanderthal
0.4 Denisovan

[Qemetiel]

Distance to: Q_simulated_g25_scaled
0.76157301 Homo_Sapiens
25.33630731 African_Hominin
27.76072784 Denisovan
33.95005504 African_Hominin
52.24279259 Neanderthal
54.76276619 Neanderthal
70.73784738 Neanderthal
105.23078923 Neanderthal
113.69084759 Denisovan

Target: Q_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 15.2542% / 0.15254220
97.4 Homo_Sapiens
1.8 Neanderthal
0.8 Denisovan