Nordic-Mediterranean?

[Beowulf]

it's the first time i see this phenotype and confuses me a lot bcs isn't supposed that a nordo-med is a Atlantid? can this phenotype be used actually?


https://i.postimg.cc/bY2FK0Bd/Screenshot-2023-02-28-00-18-23.png (https://postimages.org/)




https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Nordic-Mediterranean

[DraviXi99]

it's the first time i see this phenotype and confuses me a lot bcs isn't supposed that a nordo-med is a Atlantid? can this phenotype be used actually?


https://i.postimg.cc/bY2FK0Bd/Screenshot-2023-02-28-00-18-23.png (https://postimages.org/)




https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Nordic-Mediterranean

Literally every anthropology site is complete bs,this phneotype might have been invented by a forum user amd might not exist in real life.

[NSXD60]

Could be that PIEs descend from Euros to the west and or southwest who were intermediate twixt Meds and Nords, isolation for millennia rendering the Black Sea settlers more Nordic, while their kindred left behind were subject to Mena migrations which eventually bred out most of their Nordic half. But who knows.

[Atlantic Reptilian]

Isn't it the same as "nordo-med"?

[Beowulf]

Isn't it the same as "nordo-med"?

a nordo-med is a Atlantid

https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Atlantid


but the one i posted seems different and confuses me a lot

[Atlantic Reptilian]

a nordo-med is a Atlantid

https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Atlantid


but the one i posted seems different and confuses me a lot

From what I have understood, this "Nordic-Med" is a nordid like Hallstatt with some med, whilst Atlantid is more like a med with some nordid, if you get my point?

[Token]

I love internet "anthropology".

[Immanenz]

Basically a "Nu Gracile Med" (without any robustness left) with some Nordid pigmentation or mixing with "Nu Gracile Nordid" (same principal). Its just an obvservation that there are some very gracile light South Europeans imo.

[Beowulf]

From what I have understood, this "Nordic-Med" is a nordid like Hallstatt with some med, whilst Atlantid is more like a med with some nordid, if you get my point?


yes, but the synonim for atlantid is Nordo-med that's why it confuses me a lot, also i don't remember in wich site i read that a North Atlantid would be 75% nordid and 25% med

and a Atlantid 50%Nordid and 50% med and Atlanto-med 75%med and 25% nordid is that true?

[Atlantic Reptilian]

[/B]

yes, but the synonim for atlantid is Nordo-med that's why it confuses me a lot, also i don't remember in wich site i read that a North Atlantid would be 75% nordid and 25% med

and a Atlantid 50%Nordid and 50% med and Atlanto-med 75%med and 25% nordid is that true?

Oh, I'm not 100% sure either, just saying what I have read somewhere. :confused:

[Beowulf]

Oh, I'm not 100% sure either, just saying what I have read somewhere. :confused:

this pseudo science is very ambiguous lol this confuses a lot

[Atlantic Reptilian]

this pseudo science is very ambiguous lol this confuses a lot

True

[Token]

this pseudo science is very ambiguous lol this confuses a lot

The thing you guys are talking about doesn't even deserve the label of pseudo-science. It is plain dumbness in its most pure and crystalline form.

[DraviXi99]

[/B]

yes, but the synonim for atlantid is Nordo-med that's why it confuses me a lot, also i don't remember in wich site i read that a North Atlantid would be 75% nordid and 25% med

and a Atlantid 50%Nordid and 50% med and Atlanto-med 75%med and 25% nordid is that true?

Wouldn't atlanto med be 2/3 med and 1/3 nordid ?

[Beowulf]

Wouldn't atlanto med be 2/3 med and 1/3 nordid ?

idk i read somewhere that is 75% med and 25% nordid

3/4 med 1/4 Nordid

[DraviXi99]

idk i read somewhere that is 75% med and 25% nordid

3/4 med 1/4 Nordid

About the initial post,i think that phenotype is just an atlantid,except that it is blonde and blue - eyed.

[Jingle Bell]

Wouldn't atlanto med be 2/3 med and 1/3 nordid ?

Far as know, Atlanto-Med dont have any Nordid admix
Its just a more Dolicocephalic and robust classical Med

"Atlanto-Mediterranid. Relatively old, present in early Natufians and European as well as North African megalith builders. Spread across the Mediterranean since the Mesolithic until Antiquity."

[Jingle Bell]

Its prob just a another name for Atlantid

Atlantid:

"Fair skin. straight or wavy, brown hair. Dark to mixed eyes. Medium height, mesoskelic, ectomorph. Dolico-mesocephalic. Nose is straight and leptorrhine. Long face. Thin lips."

"Nordic-mediterranid" XD:

"Pale to fair skin. Brown to Golden blond hair, with mixed eyes. Rather Tall. Dolicho-mesocephalic, and chameocranic. Prominent, hyperleptorrhine, straight or concave nose that can be slightly convex. Sturdy chin with small to large mandible. Slightly sloping, rather large forehead."

Literally the same thing bruh

I find a example of Nordic-Med:
https://i.imgur.com/mlhdvmz.png

honestly, i dont much diference from a Atlanto or Gracile-Med:
https://i.imgur.com/hJ0UNkk.png
https://i.imgur.com/gAcl1QW.png

[DraviXi99]

Far as know, Atlanto-Med dont have any Nordid admix
Its just a more Dolicocephalic and robust classical Med

"Atlanto-Mediterranid. Relatively old, present in early Natufians and European as well as North African megalith builders. Spread across the Mediterranean since the Mesolithic until Antiquity."

That doesn't make any sense.

[Jingle Bell]

That doesn't make any sense.

What dont makes sense? Meds comes from farmers

[Dick]

North American hybrid. Female looks like Kaley Cuoco(italians+english+German)

[DraviXi99]

Its prob just a another name for Atlantid

Atlantid:

"Fair skin. straight or wavy, brown hair. Dark to mixed eyes. Medium height, mesoskelic, ectomorph. Dolico-mesocephalic. Nose is straight and leptorrhine. Long face. Thin lips."

"Nordic-mediterranid" XD:

"Pale to fair skin. Brown to Golden blond hair, with mixed eyes. Rather Tall. Dolicho-mesocephalic, and chameocranic. Prominent, hyperleptorrhine, straight or concave nose that can be slightly convex. Sturdy chin with small to large mandible. Slightly sloping, rather large forehead."

Literally the same thing bruh

I find a example of Nordic-Med:
https://i.imgur.com/mlhdvmz.png

honestly, i dont much diference from a Atlanto or Gracile-Med:
https://i.imgur.com/hJ0UNkk.png
https://i.imgur.com/gAcl1QW.png

There is a great difference between atlanto med and gracile med.

[Jingle Bell]

There is a great difference between atlanto med and gracile med.

What diference?
Both have light brown skin, both are Meso-Dolico, both are long skulled, both are strait nosed, both narrow and lean faced, both have proeminent occiputal, both have dark eyes, hair
the diference btw both its just 2, atlanto-meds are taller and often more robust, and thats it, there a lot of overlap btw both, but people think that all gracile-meds looks like that:

"Tall, straight-nosed and strongly dolichocephalic Mediterranid type, the living equivalent of the skeletal Megalithic type (in the typology of Coon). It is markedly taller and more robust than the Gracile-Mediterranean type,"
also in most cases u dont will see pure Atlanto-Meds or pure Gracile-Meds, in most of time in Iberia u will see individuals between the both types.

But despite that, they are the same, 2 variations from the West Med type, but im not a expert, i recommend u to ask to a guy like Token or Immanez that know more abt Anthropology

[lei.talk]

Nordic-Mediterranean?it's the first time i see this phenotype
and confuses me a lot bcs isn't supposed that a nordo-med is a Atlantid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#ATLANTID)?
can this phenotype be used actually?



https://i.postimg.cc/bY2FK0Bd/Screenshot-2023-02-28-00-18-23.png





fandom.com/physicalanthropology/Nordic-Mediterranean (https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Nordic-Mediterranean)

too long ago,
there was a very well-read young man (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?856-Hello&p=4129#post4129) on the apricity
that maintained a blog of fascinating physical anthropology arcana.

your screen-shot is from a web-page
inspired by one of ariets' blog-entries (https://ariets.wordpress.com/2015/04/11/nordic-mediterrean-type-of-e-a-hooton-c-w-dupertius-from-physicial-anthropology-of-ireland/)

which details one item from this book:


click-on image to read

https://i.imgur.com/6Y2zTFa.png (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89058374257&view=1up&seq=171)



http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n50028942/

http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-nr94041869/

https://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85809708/

[Beowulf]

too long ago,
there was a very well-read young man (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?856-Hello&p=4129#post4129) on the apricity
that maintained a blog of fascinating physical anthropology arcana.

your screen-shot is from a web-page
inspired by one of ariets' blog-entries (https://ariets.wordpress.com/2015/04/11/nordic-mediterrean-type-of-e-a-hooton-c-w-dupertius-from-physicial-anthropology-of-ireland/)

which details one item from this book:


click-on image to read

https://i.imgur.com/6Y2zTFa.png (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89058374257&view=1up&seq=176)



http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n50028942/

http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-nr94041869/

https://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85809708/

wow!! it's very interesting, thanks a lot ;)

[DraviXi99]

What diference?
Both have light brown skin, both are Meso-Dolico, both are long skulled, both are strait nosed, both narrow and lean faced, both have proeminent occiputal, both have dark eyes, hair
the diference btw both its just 2, atlanto-meds are taller and often more robust, and thats it, there a lot of overlap btw both, but people think that all gracile-meds looks like that:

"Tall, straight-nosed and strongly dolichocephalic Mediterranid type, the living equivalent of the skeletal Megalithic type (in the typology of Coon). It is markedly taller and more robust than the Gracile-Mediterranean type,"
also in most cases u dont will see pure Atlanto-Meds or pure Gracile-Meds, in most of time in Iberia u will see individuals between the both types.

But despite that, they are the same, 2 variations from the West Med type, but im not a expert, i recommend u to ask to a guy like Token or Immanez that know more abt Anthropology

They are not the same

[Token]

too long ago,
there was a very well-read young man (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?856-Hello&p=4129#post4129) on the apricity
that maintained a blog of fascinating physical anthropology arcana.

your screen-shot is from a web-page
inspired by one of ariets' blog-entries (https://ariets.wordpress.com/2015/04/11/nordic-mediterrean-type-of-e-a-hooton-c-w-dupertius-from-physicial-anthropology-of-ireland/)

which details one item from this book:


click-on image to read

https://i.imgur.com/6Y2zTFa.png (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89058374257&view=1up&seq=171)



http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n50028942/

http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-nr94041869/

https://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85809708/
It is important to point out that Hooton's sorting criteria in his Irish study was very loose and entirely based on pigmentation and cephalic index. All dolichocephals with either mixed eyes or blondish hair were included in the "Nordic-Mediterranean" category. Therefore the conclusions reached for those Irish cannot be extrapolated to other parts of Europe.

[Marshall Theodore]

It is important to point out that Hooton's sorting criteria in his Irish study was very loose and entirely based on pigmentation and cephalic index. All dolichocephals with either mixed eyes or blondish hair were included in the "Nordic-Mediterranean" category. Therefore the conclusions reached for those Irish cannot be extrapolated to other parts of Europe.

Is dolichocephaly common, or at least present, among other european "subraces" such as dinarids and nordids (not including CM influenced types like Trønder)?

[Token]

Is dolichocephaly common, or at least present, among other european "subraces" such as dinarids and nordids (not including CM influenced types like Trønder)?

Dinarics are by definition brachycephals. Nordics are dolichocephals and low mesocephals.

[Eurafricanid]

it's the first time i see this phenotype and confuses me a lot bcs isn't supposed that a nordo-med is a Atlantid? can this phenotype be used actually?


https://i.postimg.cc/bY2FK0Bd/Screenshot-2023-02-28-00-18-23.png (https://postimages.org/)




https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Nordic-Mediterranean
If you look at the actual image you'll see that it's "Nordic variant of Atlantid", meaning it's Atlantid, but lighter, what is the confusion?

[Eurafricanid]

What diference?
...

Night and day, really.

GRACILE-MEDITERRANID
"They are characterized by a medium to short, gracile skeleton, mesomorphy and a small skull. Gracile-Mediterranids are relatively dark compared to Europeans in general (cf. Atlanto-Mediterranid)"

ATLANTO-MEDITERRANID
"Tall, straight-nosed and strongly dolichocephalic Mediterranid type, the living equivalent of the skeletal Megalithic type (in the typology of Coon). It is markedly taller and more robust than the Gracile-Mediterranean type, by which it is outnumbered, and with which it is often mixed."

The Atlanto-Meds are lighter, have longer skulls and are more robust, while the Gracile-Meds are the opposite of all of that, darker, shorter and Gracile.

[Jingle Bell]

Night and day, really.

GRACILE-MEDITERRANID
"They are characterized by a medium to short, gracile skeleton, mesomorphy and a small skull. Gracile-Mediterranids are relatively dark compared to Europeans in general (cf. Atlanto-Mediterranid)"


ATLANTO-MEDITERRANID
"Tall, straight-nosed and strongly dolichocephalic Mediterranid type, the living equivalent of the skeletal Megalithic type (in the typology of Coon). It is markedly taller and more robust than the Gracile-Mediterranean type, by which it is outnumbered, and with which it is often mixed."

The Atlanto-Meds are lighter, have longer skulls and are more robust, while the Gracile-Meds are the opposite of all of that, darker, shorter and Gracile.

Atlanto-Meds arent lighter, they have the same skin tone
Atlanto-Meds OFTEN have more longer skulls and more robust, looks at the examples which i put on comment

The unique diference that coon said was that Atlanto-Meds are taller, and often more robust, thats it.
Just Trans-Med is darker, Gracile Med have the same pigmentation, similar CI index, similar skull height, similar occiput. Thats why both are part of West-Med phenotypes family, bcs they often overlap.
That Gracile Med description seens more talk abt Trans Med tahn Gracile-Med bruh Gracile Mrd is not even short skulled, its medium generally

[Jingle Bell]

Its prob just a another name for Atlantid

Atlantid:

"Fair skin. straight or wavy, brown hair. Dark to mixed eyes. Medium height, mesoskelic, ectomorph. Dolico-mesocephalic. Nose is straight and leptorrhine. Long face. Thin lips."

"Nordic-mediterranid" XD:

"Pale to fair skin. Brown to Golden blond hair, with mixed eyes. Rather Tall. Dolicho-mesocephalic, and chameocranic. Prominent, hyperleptorrhine, straight or concave nose that can be slightly convex. Sturdy chin with small to large mandible. Slightly sloping, rather large forehead."

Literally the same thing bruh

I find a example of Nordic-Med:
https://i.imgur.com/mlhdvmz.png

honestly, i dont much diference from a Atlanto or Gracile-Med:
https://i.imgur.com/hJ0UNkk.png
https://i.imgur.com/gAcl1QW.png

Just look at the textbooks of each phenotype, they are not "day and night" bruh

[Damião de Góis]

Are they atlanto-med or gracile-med?

https://www.soberaniadopovo.pt/src/src/2019/noticias/desporto/Ciclismo/equipa.jpg

[Latinus]

If it wasn't specified which is which, I would have a hard time telling apart some of the Gracile-Med from the Atlanto-Med plates.

Even the Gracile guys have a strong look.

[lei.talk]

https://i.imgur.com/Ji2M7Lw.png (https://iiif.lib.harvard.edu/manifests/view/drs:53775283$202i)
https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png
https://i.imgur.com/MJgYvfE.png (https://iiif.lib.harvard.edu/manifests/view/drs:53775283$163i)

[Token]

If it wasn't specified which is which, I would have a hard time telling apart some of the Gracile-Med from the Atlanto-Med plates.

Even the Gracile guys have a strong look.

It is impossible to distinguish them in pictures except for the more extreme examples of each type, but it becomes much easier when you have their measurements as in the case of those guys from an anthropology book.

[Jingle Bell]

Are they atlanto-med or gracile-med?

https://www.soberaniadopovo.pt/src/src/2019/noticias/desporto/Ciclismo/equipa.jpg

First one, sancho, vega & pinto looks more Gracile Med, the rest Atlanto-Med/Atlantid

[Eurafricanid]

Just look at the textbooks of each phenotype, they are not "day and night" bruh

Non of them look Gracile Med, some don't even look pure med at all, where is this from?

[Eurafricanid]

Atlanto-Meds arent lighter, they have the same skin tone
Atlanto-Meds OFTEN have more longer skulls and more robust, looks at the examples which i put on comment

The unique diference that coon said was that Atlanto-Meds are taller, and often more robust, thats it.
Just Trans-Med is darker, Gracile Med have the same pigmentation, similar CI index, similar skull height, similar occiput. Thats why both are part of West-Med phenotypes family, bcs they often overlap.
That Gracile Med description seens more talk abt Trans Med tahn Gracile-Med bruh Gracile Mrd is not even short skulled, its medium generally

Show me the textbooks for your claims please.

[Jingle Bell]

Show me the textbooks for your claims please.

I alr put in comment above u, i literally used the same site that u used
https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Gracile_Mediterranean
Just scroll and see the examples in "Examples"
Gracile Med its just a more Meso and a shorter Atlanto-Med, its not day and night

[Eurafricanid]

I alr put in comment above u, i literally used the same site that u used
https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Gracile_Mediterranean
Just scroll and see the examples in "Examples"
Gracile Med its just a more Meso and a shorter Atlanto-Med, its not day and night
The Descriptions are quite different.

Gracile-Med:
They are typically short and ectomorphic, with thin and gracile bodily features. The skin color is usually light brown, while the hair and eye color is usually brown, sometimes black. Mesocephalic, sometimes dolichocephalic, the face is long and narrow with a narrow jaw and a somewhat prominent chin. The nose is hyperleptorrhine and straight and not very long. Hips tend to be rather wide in women. The eyes are rather shallow-set. The hair is thick and straight or wavy, the eyebrows are thick, as is the facial hair. The lips are full and of average width.

Atlanto-Med:
Light brown, rarely fair skin. straight to curly, usually dark brown hair. (Rather) tall, ecto- to mesomorphic, brachy- mesoskelic. Dolichocephalic, mildly hypsicranic with a straight, sometimes pressed and leptorrhine nose. Face coarse and long, deep set eyes, cheekbones often wide. Significant brow ridges, mild prognathy common.

The very clear differences are shown in Bold and the Clowdy, or mild differences are showed in Underline-Italic

[Jingle Bell]

The Descriptions are quite different.

Gracile-Med:
They are typically short and ectomorphic, with thin and gracile bodily features. The skin color is usually light brown, while the hair and eye color is usually brown, sometimes black. Mesocephalic, sometimes dolichocephalic, the face is long and narrow with a narrow jaw and a somewhat prominent chin. The nose is hyperleptorrhine and straight and not very long. Hips tend to be rather wide in women. The eyes are rather shallow-set. The hair is thick and straight or wavy, the eyebrows are thick, as is the facial hair. The lips are full and of average width.

Atlanto-Med:
Light brown, rarely fair skin. straight to curly, usually dark brown hair. (Rather) tall, ecto- to mesomorphic, brachy- mesoskelic. Dolichocephalic, mildly hypsicranic with a straight, sometimes pressed and leptorrhine nose. Face coarse and long, deep set eyes, cheekbones often wide. Significant brow ridges, mild prognathy common.

The very clear differences are shown in Bold and the Clowdy, or mild differences are showed in Underline-Italic

But all the diferences that u showed are little like body proporcion or robustness, the main (CI, Occiput, Face height, pigmentation, ) are or the same or very similar
For example theres tall and short hallsttats, some are a but more robust, others more gracile but both share the same/very similar CI, Occiput, Skull shape, Pigmentation etc. . . That dont means they have diferent pheno, im not saying that Gracile Med is a Atlanto-Med subtype, just that both overlap and without measures its not easy see the diferences btw both, not all Gracile meds are like 165cm and with a small face, and neither all Atlanto Meds have 186cm with a robust jaw and a incrible long face, thats 2 extreme that ppl use as steriotypes, despite that have obvious diferences btw both they are not day and night

[Eurafricanid]

But all the diferences that u showed are little like body proporcion or robustness, the main (CI, Occiput, Face height, pigmentation, ) are or the same or very similar
For example theres tall and short hallsttats, some are a but more robust, others more gracile but both share the same/very similar CI, Occiput, Skull shape, Pigmentation etc. . . That dont means they have diferent pheno, im not saying that Gracile Med is a Atlanto-Med subtype, just that both overlap and without measures its not easy see the diferences btw both, not all Gracile meds are like 165cm and with a small face, and neither all Atlanto Meds have 186cm with a robust jaw and a incrible long face, thats 2 extreme that ppl use as steriotypes, despite that have obvious diferences btw both they are not day and night

It's simple, a gracile med needs to be gracile and sort, if it's not it's Atlanto-Med or mixed with Atlanto-Med.
But the Skull indices, skin and hair do overlap, a lot of phenos have the same or similar CI, Occiput, Face height, pigmentation, as them, and are totaly different phenos.

[Odelia]

The Descriptions are quite different.

Gracile-Med:
The skin color is usually light brown

Atlanto-Med:
Light brown, rarely fair skin
Off topic, but these descriptions piss me off. My Cristiano Viejo in me comes out when I read the stupid human phenotypes.net skin descriptions. How the hell are gracile meds and atlanto meds light brown? Even dinarids are described as having "fair to light-brown skin". I have never seen a light brown skinned dinarid!l! ight brown is something like Osama bin laden ya retards! Human phenotypes brownifies anything below central europe. I am mediterranean, but certainly don't have brown skin. I get a good bronze tan, but I'm not naturally brown. Not a problem if I was brown, but the truth is the truth - most med peoples arent brown, just olive. And I think HP mean ''olive'' instead of ''brown''.

[DraviXi99]

Off topic, but these descriptions piss me off. My Cristiano Viejo in me comes out when I read the stupid human phenotypes.net skin descriptions. How the hell are gracile meds and atlanto meds light brown? Even dinarids are described as having "fair to light-brown skin". I have never seen a light brown skinned dinarid!l! ight brown is something like Osama bin laden ya retards! Human phenotypes brownifies anything below central europe. I am mediterranean, but certainly don't have brown skin. I get a good bronze tan, but I'm not naturally brown. Not a problem if I was brown, but the truth is the truth - most med peoples arent brown, just olive. And I think HP mean ''olive'' instead of ''brown''.

Well,the site you listed has wrong information,if you type "berid" in it will show you a berberid,some phenotypes i think are also made - up.

[Eurafricanid]

Off topic, but these descriptions piss me off. My Cristiano Viejo in me comes out when I read the stupid human phenotypes.net skin descriptions. How the hell are gracile meds and atlanto meds light brown? Even dinarids are described as having "fair to light-brown skin". I have never seen a light brown skinned dinarid!l! ight brown is something like Osama bin laden ya retards! Human phenotypes brownifies anything below central europe. I am mediterranean, but certainly don't have brown skin. I get a good bronze tan, but I'm not naturally brown. Not a problem if I was brown, but the truth is the truth - most med peoples arent brown, just olive. And I think HP mean ''olive'' instead of ''brown''.

Light brown:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=118074&d=1677815460

I do agree, that the Anthopology cassifications, often darkwash Southern European phenotypes, though, most Southern Euros fall under the Fair Skin category, or between Fair and Light brown.


Fair skin:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=118075&d=1677815993

My skin is light brown!
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=118074&d=1677815460https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/skMIsEzKkU4bLrfB3QVsAr2u_L8=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/108332702-58b9ca353df78c353c3733ea.jpg

[Token]

LMFAO, even physicalanthropologywiki now admits that Atlantid is utter horseshit - a fake nonexistent type. Finally an intelligent decision coming from them.

[TrevorXdX]

LMFAO, even physicalanthropologywiki now admits that Atlantid is utter horseshit - a fake nonexistent type. Finally an intelligent decision coming from them.

Looks like a type that isn't real, several types of Mediterranids and Nordids mixed to varying degrees.

[Odelia]

LMFAO, even physicalanthropologywiki now admits that Atlantid is utter horseshit - a fake nonexistent type. Finally an intelligent decision coming from them.
No wonder it doesn't exist. Most men deemed as 'atlantids' are unattractive asf anyway!

[Grace O'Malley]

No wonder it doesn't exist. Most men deemed as 'atlantids' are unattractive asf anyway!

That's just your preference. Beauty is subjective and a personal choice. What I would find attractive you wouldn't and vice versa.

[Token]

After dumping the Atlantid type, physicalanthropologywiki apparently changed its Nordo-Mediterranid page. Now it is the most common Caucasoid type. :laugh:


The Nordic Mediterranean type[1] is a generic category for non-stabilized blends between Mediterranid and Nordid types. Today it is the most numerous and widespread Caucasoid type.
https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Nordo-Mediterranid

Of course there is no source, because they took this information directly from their arse. :picard2:

Here is the new morph they chose to represent their brand new concept of Nordo-Mediterranid.

https://i.imgur.com/5Hf42kr.png

[filipe]

A Nordic-Mediterranean is basically an Atlanto-Med with light hair. It is relatively common throughout Western Europe. They differ from the conventional dark-haired Nordo-Med Atlantid type due to having an East Germanic (mainly Suebi and Visigothic) influence, generally lacking in pure Atlantids.

[Beowulf]

After dumping the Atlantid type, physicalanthropologywiki apparently changed its Nordo-Mediterranid page. Now it is the most common Caucasoid type. :laugh:


https://physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com/wiki/Nordo-Mediterranid

Of course there is no source, because they took this information directly from their arse. :picard2:

Here is the new morph they chose to represent their brand new concept of Nordo-Mediterranid.

https://i.imgur.com/5Hf42kr.png

The Photo they are using for Nordo-Med is the same one they used for Atlantid anyways.

[masoebu]

I think most of these phenotypes do exist, but may not be stable or widespread enough to matter. In my mind, I see mainly Nordid and Mediterranean and mixes between the two in Europe.

[Token]

Nordic-Mediterraneans do obviously exist, but they are so unstable a blend that they don't deserve to be named. Most have disharmonic pigmentation combinations (dark hair coupled with blondish beards, medium brown head hair, dark hair plus light/mixed eyes, and all other possible permutations), but it tends to be closer to the Mediterranean side in adults given the dominance of brunet pigmentation after puberty, and closer to the Nordic side in children given the dominance of blondism in the early childhood. The facial features tend to be ambiguous given that Mediterraneans and Nordics are nearly identical metrically and morphologically, and the number of permutations of possible combinations are many.

[TrevorXdX]

Nordic-Mediterraneans do obviously exist, but they are so unstable a blend that they don't deserve to be named. Most have disharmonic pigmentation combinations (dark hair coupled with blondish beards, medium brown head hair, dark hair plus light/mixed eyes, and all other possible permutations), but it tends to be closer to the Mediterranean side in adults given the dominance of brunet pigmentation after puberty, and closer to the Nordic side in children given the dominance of blondism in the early childhood. The facial features tend to be ambiguous given that Mediterraneans and Nordics are nearly identical metrically and morphologically, and the number of permutations of possible combinations are many.

There are other named types that also seem to be an unstable mix, Trønder, Anglo-Saxon, Sub-Nordid, Norid, North Atlantid and Litorid for example, do you think these types exist?

[Odelia]

That's just your preference. Beauty is subjective and a personal choice. What I would find attractive you wouldn't and vice versa.
I never said nobody should find them attractive or everyone should have my taste! But does it matter now cos the atlantid phenotype doesn't exist anyway...Which is agreeable to me, because most atlantids are just dark haired anglo-celts or they're very light atlanto-meds.