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Gallicus
03-03-2023, 06:07 PM
Oyster farmers from Lestre, near Cherbourg

https://static.actu.fr/uploads/2022/03/10071-220315112814804-0.jpg
https://static.actu.fr/uploads/2023/03/166-230301231930632-0019221421180365349302.jpg
https://www.lamanchelibre.fr/photos/1200/1046119/

Gallicus
03-03-2023, 08:41 PM
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Oliver109
03-03-2023, 08:49 PM
1st pic left guy is borreby and subnordic, guy is atlanto alpine, lady is alpine and gracile med, another pseudo Slavic French.

Eurafricanid
03-03-2023, 11:05 PM
1st pic left to right

Subnordid + Borreby, North Atlantid (looks textbook), pred. Alpine, looks borderline Gorid.

Gallicus
03-04-2023, 01:31 AM
That brown haired guy looks extremely North Atlantid to my eyes too.

About the lady, pseudo Eastern European isn't uncommon in Normandy, but she may also have foreign Eastern roots. Immigration has been so strong in France that even in remote places you can find lots of non-ethnic French (in Eastern France, some villages have like 80% Italian surnames).

Duke
03-04-2023, 04:00 AM
Borrebies and the guy in the middle is Med

Oliver109
03-04-2023, 10:08 AM
That brown haired guy looks extremely North Atlantid to my eyes too.

About the lady, pseudo Eastern European isn't uncommon in Normandy, but she may also have foreign Eastern roots. Immigration has been so strong in France that even in remote places you can find lots of non-ethnic French (in Eastern France, some villages have like 80% Italian surnames).
It's a shame France has no data on the ethnic background of places, i.e Sussex which is similar to Normandy in profile is about 85% white British, anyway the lady looks French, I have seen women look like her who are British and Irish in background. What part of E France is very Italian? I was looking at people from Metz and they look very Turkish or Polish many of them.

Gallicus
03-04-2023, 01:44 PM
It's a shame France has no data on the ethnic background of places, i.e Sussex which is similar to Normandy in profile is about 85% white British, anyway the lady looks French, I have seen women look like her who are British and Irish in background. What part of E France is very Italian? I was looking at people from Metz and they look very Turkish or Polish many of them.

I too think she is French, I've often seen British and French girls with this look.

Here a map of Italian migrants in France in 1931
https://escolagastonfebus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Repartition-de-la-population-italienne-dans-les-departements-francais-en-1931-V2.png
Today it has spread all over France, especially in the North and East, like did the Poles (in much lesser numbers).
As far as I know, Turks in France are concentrated in Īle-de-France and German-speaking regions. Metz is close, but the Turkish looking people you saw may well be Italian. I've seen quite a lot of French Italians looking Turkish.

Oliver109
03-04-2023, 03:08 PM
I too think she is French, I've often seen British and French girls with this look.

Here a map of Italian migrants in France in 1931
https://escolagastonfebus.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Repartition-de-la-population-italienne-dans-les-departements-francais-en-1931-V2.png
Today it has spread all over France, especially in the North and East, like did the Poles (in much lesser numbers).
As far as I know, Turks in France are concentrated in Īle-de-France and German-speaking regions. Metz is close, but the Turkish looking people you saw may well be Italian. I've seen quite a lot of French Italians looking Turkish.

That's a lot of Italians, we don't realize in Britain just how undiluted our blood is but a lot of W and NW French also look Italian or Turkish.

Gallicus
03-05-2023, 02:10 AM
That's a lot of Italians, we don't realize in Britain just how undiluted our blood is but a lot of W and NW French also look Italian or Turkish.

The vast majority of European countries are mostly undiluted. France is an exception. I grew in France and I'd say that 90% of the "white French" I knew had at least 1 foreign grandparent (Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Armenian, Pied-noir, Algerian or Polish mostly). Sometimes I ended up in remote villages where everyone looked Calabrese, with Portuguese flags everywhere, etc. Disturbing country.

However I think that the Turkish/Italian-looking people in W France may rather be local Meds. West is much less diluted by immigration than the other regions.

aherne
03-05-2023, 01:48 PM
They all pass very fine in England nearby. Norse influence is evident on guy on the left and woman on right:

https://static.actu.fr/uploads/2023/03/166-230301231930632-0019221421180365349302.jpg

Kelto-Germanic (hence English), Norse (Baltoid), Atlantid (could very well be Spanish), Norse (CM)