Classify 2 Kalash/Kati men

[Kaazi]

From Kamdesh, Ameshdesh, Bargimatal, Waigal regions.

https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/12299283_1710798422482282_8177318160035591857_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=UsykA2WTg-wAX-WBFqA&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfBeO3zKVaxzG12pgA8xWAFsGBkL-JOkMos7EzDutQnfag&oe=64297F9B

[Oliver109]

From Kamdesh, Ameshdesh, Bargimatal, Waigal regions.

https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/12299283_1710798422482282_8177318160035591857_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=UsykA2WTg-wAX-WBFqA&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfBeO3zKVaxzG12pgA8xWAFsGBkL-JOkMos7EzDutQnfag&oe=64297F9B
Cristiano Viejoids

[turbosat]

From Kamdesh, Ameshdesh, Bargimatal, Waigal regions.

https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/12299283_1710798422482282_8177318160035591857_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=UsykA2WTg-wAX-WBFqA&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfBeO3zKVaxzG12pgA8xWAFsGBkL-JOkMos7EzDutQnfag&oe=64297F9B

Are they Kati (Nuristani)? Kati are Nuristani from Afghanistan.

Kalash are different to Kati/Nuristani including in their language. Kalash appear to have more many more darker looking individuals among them than the Nuristanis. Nuristanis also seem to have some darker looking people, but probably a lot less than Kalash. Kalash also have lighter skinned people but they are more of a different complexion to Nuristanis and Kalash features on the whole seem to be different to Nuristanis.

Darker Kalash women like these seem to be common among Kalash, but I think would not be too common among Nuristanis.

https://peaceforasia.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Kalash_tribe.jpeg
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5961c8ce3e00be4fb1decc32/1528615568322-Q9F95T4HMD8XWEIF17OT/kalash-textile10.JPG?format=2500w
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5961c8ce3e00be4fb1decc32/1527907056955-3NHBHFWBQECEYGLVS5P5/kalash-textile24.jpg?format=1000w
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/CY2AGC/kalash-woman-in-northern-pakistan-CY2AGC.jpg

[aherne]

Darker Kalash women like these seem to be common among Kalash, but I think would not be too common among Nuristanis.

https://peaceforasia.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Kalash_tribe.jpeg
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5961c8ce3e00be4fb1decc32/1528615568322-Q9F95T4HMD8XWEIF17OT/kalash-textile10.JPG?format=2500w
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5961c8ce3e00be4fb1decc32/1527907056955-3NHBHFWBQECEYGLVS5P5/kalash-textile24.jpg?format=1000w
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/CY2AGC/kalash-woman-in-northern-pakistan-CY2AGC.jpg

They look incredibly similar to European Gypsies, more than anything else. Gypsies, however, definitely don't originate from that area (their language is proper Indic, branching off from Hindustani 1500 years ago while Nurestani's language branched off 3k years ago), which makes me believe that majority Indic with minority European creates arch-gypsy look

[Kaazi]

Are they Kati (Nuristani)? Kati are Nuristani from Afghanistan.

Kalash are different to Kati/Nuristani including in their language. Kalash appear to have more many more darker looking individuals among them than the Nuristanis. Nuristanis also seem to have some darker looking people, but probably a lot less than Kalash. Kalash also have lighter skinned people but they are more of a different complexion to Nuristanis and Kalash features on the whole seem to be different to Nuristanis.

Darker Kalash women like these seem to be common among Kalash, but I think would not be too common among Nuristanis.


Likely Kati people since they are from Nuristan Province, East Afghanistan.

What do you think about their (2 guys) looks?

[Avicenna]

Are they Kati (Nuristani)? Kati are Nuristani from Afghanistan.

Kalash are different to Kati/Nuristani including in their language. Kalash appear to have more many more darker looking individuals among them than the Nuristanis. Nuristanis also seem to have some darker looking people, but probably a lot less than Kalash. Kalash also have lighter skinned people but they are more of a different complexion to Nuristanis and Kalash features on the whole seem to be different to Nuristanis.

Darker Kalash women like these seem to be common among Kalash, but I think would not be too common among Nuristanis.

https://peaceforasia.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Kalash_tribe.jpeg
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5961c8ce3e00be4fb1decc32/1528615568322-Q9F95T4HMD8XWEIF17OT/kalash-textile10.JPG?format=2500w
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5961c8ce3e00be4fb1decc32/1527907056955-3NHBHFWBQECEYGLVS5P5/kalash-textile24.jpg?format=1000w
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/CY2AGC/kalash-woman-in-northern-pakistan-CY2AGC.jpg

Contrary to popular belief , kalash and nuristanis are two different ethnic groups , they are not same . My mother in law is half nuristani and she and her family look different to these people.

[Hellenas]

Irano-Afgans.

[Avicenna]

Irano-Afgans.

They are not irano afghans , if you want to see what a real irano Afghan looks like,. Check out my UFC 2023 thread I just posted on taxonomy , the first guy is pure Iranid .

The OP are most likely Pamirid+ irano nordoids .

[Hellenas]

They are not irano afghans , if you want to see what a real irano Afghan looks like,. Check out my UFC 2023 thread I just posted on taxonomy , the first guy is pure Iranid .

The OP are most likely Pamirid+ irano nordoids .

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/MPP-Iraaf.jpg

Afghan man of "Irano-Afghan" type,
from Augustus Henry Keane's Man,
Past and Present (1899)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irano-Afghan_race

Brownish hair, pale white skin color =/= Nordic or Nordoid.

[Avicenna]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/MPP-Iraaf.jpg

Afghan man of "Irano-Afghan" type,
from Augustus Henry Keane's Man,
Past and Present (1899)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irano-Afghan_race

Brownish hair, pale white skin color =/= Nordic.

That picture is not even representative of the actual irano Afghan type, which is long faced sharp features , brunet white skin dark hair and eyes and a high headed skull . The OP is nothing like that man . Nor do they resemble the picture you have posted anyways .

[Hellenas]

That picture is not even representative of the actual irano Afghan type, which is long faced sharp features , brunet white skin dark hair and eyes and a high headed skull . The OP is nothing like that man . Nor do they resemble the picture you have posted anyways .

You say. To me they look the same. Same nose, same skull etc.

[Avicenna]

You say. To me they look the same. Same nose, same skull etc.

They genuinely don't. The OP are pamirids with irano nordoid admixture , pure pamirids would have looked like a Tajik without the slightly lighter pigmentation of eyes and hair .

[Avicenna]

You say. To me they look the same. Same nose, same skull etc.

These people are legit Irano Afghans

https://i.ibb.co/tQp4MSL/Screenshot-20221228-001655-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/7jtXJHk)
https://i.ibb.co/KwXFt75/Screenshot-20221228-001709-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/GT0cZkd)
https://i.ibb.co/CPct3JJ/Screenshot-20221227-141830-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/XYQ4ryy)
https://i.ibb.co/rFCzML8/Screenshot-20221211-220204-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/vV7Tmry)
https://i.ibb.co/1TCGnKj/Screenshot-20221022-215917-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/7K3tzVL)
https://i.ibb.co/09CSDnb/Screenshot-20221228-004631-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/R63mvgw)
https://i.ibb.co/Q9vh9wB/Screenshot-20221227-170147-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/BL2vLMD)
https://i.ibb.co/Zh3xhnd/Screenshot-20221227-141819-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/642F43Y)
https://i.ibb.co/r6RT8X5/Screenshot-20221002-212237-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/BZ5dWYT)
https://i.ibb.co/BHk5gDZ/Screenshot-20230124-221414-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/kVZshn8)
https://i.ibb.co/xgrWm1y/Screenshot-20221003-192336-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/1X41sr3)
https://i.ibb.co/ncXpqg6/Screenshot-20221227-141242-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/pzHq60b)
https://i.ibb.co/PTJ2kb1/Screenshot-20221227-141013-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/rbqB9L5)
https://i.ibb.co/8M0x8xL/Screenshot-20221228-134610-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/SNPmvm4)
https://i.ibb.co/Nsg3SSn/Screenshot-20230202-231259.jpg (https://ibb.co/7Xxz44N)
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[Hellenas]

Long-faced Mediterraneans of the Western Asiatic Highlands: The Irano-Afghan Race

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe181.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe182.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe183.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe184.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe185.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe186.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe188.jpg


Brownish hair and pale white skin color =/= Nordic or Nordoid.

That's Nordic and Nordoid.

https://i.redd.it/0ypbuzt2j8081.jpg

[Avicenna]

Long-faced Mediterraneans of the Western Asiatic Highlands: The Irano-Afghan Race

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe181.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe182.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe183.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe184.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe185.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe186.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe187.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe188.jpg


Brownish hair and pale white skin clor =/= Nordic or Nordoid.

That's Nordic and Nordoid.

https://i.redd.it/0ypbuzt2j8081.jpg

Thanks for proving my point again And again .

Legit Irano nordoids ( I know they are children but It still Counts)

https://i.ibb.co/tQYMzPg/Screenshot-20230202-230106-com-zhiliaoapp-musically.jpg (https://ibb.co/PF1ZMzK)
https://i.ibb.co/20rsQZN/Screenshot-20230202-224527-com-zhiliaoapp-musically.jpg (https://ibb.co/bjV2ZbJ)
https://i.ibb.co/qnKw4z2/Screenshot-20230202-230130-com-zhiliaoapp-musically.jpg (https://ibb.co/rtYJLgX)
https://i.ibb.co/3sMKw9C/Screenshot-20230218-195443.jpg (https://ibb.co/9vVPJkr)
instagram pic grabber (https://500pxdownload.com/)

[Eurafricanid]

They're Indo-Nordics + some Armenoid, very strong pseudo Dinarid look.

[Kaazi]

They genuinely don't. The OP are pamirids with irano nordoid admixture , pure pamirids would have looked like a Tajik without the slightly lighter pigmentation of eyes and hair .

I agree with you. The 2 Nuristan/Kamdesh males don't look Irano-Afghan; Irano Afghan are clearly robust featured and are represented by Pashtuns; they have this robust BMAC farmers' look oozing in their face.

The Eastern folks Nuristanis have gracile face and lighter pigmentation and these 2 boys are the closest people to ancient Indo-Aryans terms of their phenotypes and they live next to the Indo-Aryan Dards and IAMC corridor from where Indo-Aryans migrated. Indo-Aryans still today lack the Pashtun like robust features mostly. These boys are good example of ancient IAr; except slightly East Asian in the eyes (right guy).

https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/12299283_1710798422482282_8177318160035591857_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=UsykA2WTg-wAX-WBFqA&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfBeO3zKVaxzG12pgA8xWAFsGBkL-JOkMos7EzDutQnfag&oe=64297F9B

[Marshall Theodore]

Irano-Afghans

[Hungarian_master]

Both are East Pamirid+Irano Nordid.