Classify Stipe Mesic

[Bakura]

Classify...

[Saruman]

I think Agrippa said archaic Alpinoid with Dinarid influence.

[Monolith]

Hystrixoid.

http://hercegovina.info/img/repository/2009/10/web_image/stjepan-mesic3.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Hystrix_cristata_02_by_Line1.jpg

http://forum.net.hr/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.ImageFileViewer/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files.19/6758._5F00_dikobraz-mesic.JPG_2D00_550x0.jpg

[GeistFaust]

Alpinoid with Dinarid influences quite a typical combination in parts of Central Europe.

[Mordid]

Hystrixoid. ]
Typical Croatian.

[Monolith]

Typical Croatian.
His phenotype, you mean? Wouldn't know about that. Luckily, not many people look like this freak.

[Mordid]

His phenotype, you mean? Yes, he look typical Croatian. Luckily, many people look like this freak.
Fixed.

[King Claus]

east med alpine

[safinator]

What's up with his eyebrows?

[Insuperable]

His grandfather was a gypsy just so you know

[Rastko]

His grandfather was a gypsy just so you know

Yes,his name was "Idriz",lol

[safinator]

So he was a gypsy from Bosnia?

[Kastrioti1443]

His grandfather was a gypsy just so you know

Of course.

[Insuperable]

So he was a gypsy from Bosnia?

I do not know. I just know what I read and Mesić tried to cover up that part of his life.

[Rastko]

So he was a gypsy from Bosnia?

Because of the Muslim name?

Not necessarily.

[Szegedist]

Its safe to say he looks atypical

[Arianiti]

He could be classified as a good man :)

He is one of rare people who has got Doctor Honoris Causa in Kosova and very respected among Albanians.

http://www.masht-gov.net/advCms/img/other/18749_foto,%20Mesiq.jpg

These croats that are in TA are very strange. Probably some rednecks.

[Kastrioti1443]

He could be classified as a good man :)

agree

[Sisak]

He was born in Orahovica, Slavonia.

[Amun]

Alpine with Dinarid

[Lobotomist]

He's got a low hairline, that's for sure.

[blabla]

His grandfather was a gypsy just so you know

Maybe, but his look isnt ucommon in Slavonia/Hungary.

Probably Alpine with some Taurid.

[Hodor]

alpine + dinarid

[Insuperable]

Maybe, but his look isnt ucommon in Slavonia/Hungary.

Probably Alpine with some Taurid.

As Huszár said its safe to say he looks atypical. I have never been to Slavonia or Hungary so I do not know.

[Kalitas]

I'd say robust Alpinid with minor Dinarid input

[Moonbird]

Pred Alpinid with a Dinaroid influence.

[tEhSaint]

Alpinoid for the most part, with faint CM and EastMed tendencies.

[Neanderthal]

Alpinid + Dinaroid.

[Ianus]

Alpinoid+Dinarid

[gregorius]

alpine dinard

[CommonSense]

Just a very ugly Alpine. He look more normal when he was younger:

https://www.tportal.hr/media/thumbnail/w1000/81312.jpeg

[Castor]

Just a very ugly Alpine. He look more normal when he was younger:

https://www.tportal.hr/media/thumbnail/w1000/81312.jpeg

His grandfather was Gypsy named Idriz Ujdurović. Ujdurović Idriz was a Gypsy from Lika, who later took the surname of his wife Stipe's grandmother Marija, and changed his name to Ivan. His relatives are from Jezeran, a place on the slope of the mountain Kapela in Lika.

http://www.portaloko.hr/clanak/brizno-skrivana-tajna-mesicev-djed-zvao-se-ujdurovic-idriz/0/20156/

[CommonSense]

His grandfather was Gypsy named Idriz Ujdurović. Ujdurović Idriz was a Gypsy from Lika, who later took the surname of his wife Stipe's grandmother Marija, and changed his name to Ivan. His relatives are from Jezeran, a place on the slope of the mountain Kapela in Lika.

http://www.portaloko.hr/clanak/brizno-skrivana-tajna-mesicev-djed-zvao-se-ujdurovic-idriz/0/20156/

This is another classic tall tale gone fake news. My Croatian great grandmother was from that village and she looked more exotic, relative to the average European, than Stipe Mesić. Besides, the Gypsies from Lika weren't muslims, so if his grandfather really was one his name would have been different too.

[chociprasa]

Turanid + Dinarid + Gorid

[Insuperable]

His grandfather was Gypsy named Idriz Ujdurović. Ujdurović Idriz was a Gypsy from Lika, who later took the surname of his wife Stipe's grandmother Marija, and changed his name to Ivan. His relatives are from Jezeran, a place on the slope of the mountain Kapela in Lika.

http://www.portaloko.hr/clanak/brizno-skrivana-tajna-mesicev-djed-zvao-se-ujdurovic-idriz/0/20156/

That is what I thought too but in mean time realized it was an invented story.

[Terminator98]

Alpine.

TA "classificators" - ugly=not european looking, attractive/average=european looking, loool.

[Mr.G]

Alpine.

TA "classificators" - ugly=not european looking, attractive/average=european looking, loool.

I'm not a chick, but I don't even think this guy is ugly. To me he has an interesting look.

[Terminator98]

I'm not a chick, but I don't even think this guy is ugly. To me he has an interesting look.

Indeed. Very arhaic looking (could be some Neanderthal influence?).

[Jana]

Mesić are Croatian noble family from Lika.
One famous Mesić has similar phenotype

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Pop_Marko_Mesicsz_%28Dva_hrvatska_junaka_1888%29.p ng/800px-Pop_Marko_Mesicsz_%28Dva_hrvatska_junaka_1888%29.p ng

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_Mesi%C4%87

[Dušan]

Classification: ustaša and Serbophobe.

[Varda]

Proto-Croatian (Avar) legacy.

[Jana]

Classification: ustaša and Serbophobe.

Are you insane? He is absolute traitor, Croatian nationalists want him hanged.