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alnortedelsur
03-13-2023, 07:17 PM
This calculator is more intended for mixed Latin Americans with Amerindian ancestry. Distances will be huge for most of us, since we are all far from being full Amerindian.

I added all the coordinates that I knew for sure that correspond to modern Amerindian populations, though I don't know if I missed something. Any suggestions (like some other Amerindian coordinate(s) that I missed), would be welcomed.

Coordinates were taken from the Modern Population Averages Data Sheet.

Anybody (even people with zero Amerindian) is welcome to participate, so we know out of curiosity what distances they would get, and which Amerindian tribes they would be closer to. Just for fun!

Calculator:



Amerindian_North,0.00465,-0.0323,0.0297,0.023975,-0.0345,-0.0066,-0.0844,-0.10175,-0.001825,-0.01105,0.0051,-0.002275,0.0043,5e-05,-0.01115,-0.0034,-4e-04,0.002575,0.00915,0.005875,0.0031,-0.0087,0.0022,0.00515,0.00775
Andian_A,0.1089285,0.1234884,-0.0465744,-0.0397936,-0.0356682,-0.0043506,0.0083426,-0.005492,-0.0490243,-0.01662,0.0031991,0.0059196,-0.0130524,0.0013625,0.0036101,-0.0057012,0.0037551,-0.0002788,-0.0049902,0.005015,0.0022959,0.0028811,0.0017625,-0.0010121,0.000491
Andian_B,0.1136335,0.1051073,-0.0228788,0.01615,-0.0381097,0.0117598,0.003995,-0.0074612,-0.0551533,-0.038057,0.0002978,0.0096665,-0.0087217,-0.0093355,0.0180055,0.0036683,0.0068452,-0.0037372,-0.0086942,0.0058778,0.0008318,0.0027615,0.002691,0 .0069887,-0.000419
Aymara,0.056912,-0.312783,0.11917,0.093024,-0.114791,-0.014502,-0.301519,-0.359293,-0.009613,-0.016401,-0.000325,0.000899,-0.004608,0.023121,-0.013572,0.003447,0.00691,0.000253,-0.00176,0.002501,-0.001497,0.004081,0.003697,0.000361,-0.007544
Bolivian_Cochabamba,0.052359,-0.271146,0.111628,0.088825,-0.096633,-0.022311,-0.275667,-0.323986,-0.010635,-0.014761,-0.004547,0.003897,-0.002379,0.020231,-0.004886,0.002254,0.002347,-0.000127,-0.006913,-0.003502,0.004866,0.009274,-0.006039,-0.002289,0.00467
Bolivian_LaPaz,0.0569113,-0.3026277,0.1164047,0.09044,-0.1144827,-0.017663,-0.291883,-0.3513703,-0.008999,-0.0103267,-0.004655,-0.0029473,0.001883,0.021469,-0.011853,0.0057457,0.006041,-0.0054053,-0.0009217,0.0004583,-0.0022043,0.0051937,-0.0027527,-0.0008433,-0.002355
Bolivian_Pando,0.0534967,-0.2626833,0.1107477,0.0837647,-0.0965307,-0.013294,-0.2671287,-0.3237557,-0.011658,-0.007411,-0.0049797,-0.0005493,-0.000545,0.0232123,-0.007465,-0.0001327,-4.37e-05,0.0029563,4.2e-05,0.0016673,-0.001414,0.0042453,-0.0006983,0.001245,-0.001357
Colla,0.0538763,-0.2948423,0.118793,0.0903323,-0.1101743,-0.017663,-0.2913347,-0.350601,-0.0128167,-0.0146397,-0.003897,-0.0029473,0.0029237,0.0217443,-0.0047503,0.009414,0.007258,-0.0006333,0.001299,0.0020427,-0.005324,0.0061823,-0.000493,0.0019277,-0.0016763
Cree,0.0756925,-0.1888885,0.0967315,0.0625005,-0.070321,-0.0097615,-0.1505245,-0.1773385,-0.0039885,-0.014943,0.0010555,-0.0019485,0.003791,0.0021335,-0.007668,0.00358,0.0076925,0.0022805,0.0035825,0.0 060655,-0.0053035,-0.0052555,0.006902,0.009459,-0.0002995
Huichol,0.053497,-0.311768,0.115776,0.102068,-0.110482,-0.010877,-0.270497,-0.324217,-0.012476,-0.020593,-0.002111,-3e-04,0.003122,0.022432,-0.011129,0.000265,0.008084,0.00076,0.005656,-0.001876,0.000873,0.003462,-0.004437,0.004699,0.008143
Karitiana,0.0588087,-0.320061,0.1183532,0.1083675,-0.1136622,-0.0136192,-0.3230612,-0.382484,-0.0153735,-0.017343,0.0009473,-0.0026975,-0.0016352,0.0273182,-0.0045692,0.0044197,0.0110175,0.002597,0.0001047,-0.0003543,-0.0055318,0.010902,-0.005546,-0.0025303,-0.0067858
Mayan,0.056749,-0.2949387,0.1107659,0.0902554,-0.1048547,-0.0156974,-0.2758356,-0.3286347,-0.0140829,-0.0160369,-0.0017167,-0.0010061,0.001083,0.0199947,-0.008783,0.0037504,0.0079163,-0.0009773,-0.0013466,-0.0019474,-0.0026024,0.0056176,0.0010037,3.44e-05,0.0003594
Mixe,0.0578222,-0.3207042,0.1230168,0.0943806,-0.1073434,-0.015562,-0.2782054,-0.3340476,-0.012026,-0.0146882,-0.0071126,-0.0065642,0.0044598,0.0202028,-0.0087946,0.004004,0.006102,0.0004564,-0.0004526,-0.0036016,0.0011732,0.0058612,0.0034018,-0.0017108,-0.0018442
Mixtec,0.053269,-0.297144,0.113438,0.0916674,-0.100634,-0.0186854,-0.26904,-0.3211248,-0.0127624,-0.0145788,-0.005359,-0.005665,-0.0002082,0.016157,-0.0084688,0.0017236,0.005085,0.001799,0.001986,-0.0010006,-0.002945,0.0065288,-0.0007396,-0.0024822,-0.0013172
Piapoco,0.051505,-0.3198918,0.1202072,0.1010992,-0.1114825,-0.0145022,-0.3067478,-0.3651772,-0.0103795,-0.0158545,-0.0044252,0.0013487,0.0005578,0.024772,-0.0045465,0.0039445,0.0079208,-0.0032305,-0.0001885,-0.0016257,-0.002059,0.006275,-0.0041288,-0.0016568,-0.0058078
Pima,0.0516756,-0.312783,0.1077058,0.0905692,-0.107343,-0.0159526,-0.269933,-0.3273094,-0.0125168,-0.0177134,-0.0032476,-0.002218,0.0053816,0.0194872,-0.0091204,0.010952,0.0062584,0.0064356,0.0046256,-0.0031514,-0.0024958,0.0044516,-0.001972,0.0031812,0.003329
Quechua,0.0562288,-0.2695216,0.1110998,0.0874684,-0.0968796,-0.0169564,-0.2738812,-0.327263,-0.0112896,-0.0123918,-0.0040272,-0.0020084,-0.0024382,0.0219372,-0.0036644,0.0082206,0.0077446,-0.0018244,-2.52e-05,0.0004252,-0.0010732,0.0092244,0.0004682,0.0035186,-0.0021556
Wichi,0.053497,-0.3168453,0.1224383,0.1009913,-0.1203303,-0.0174773,-0.310919,-0.3670613,-0.0115897,-0.017373,0.000758,-0.0031473,0.000149,0.0300477,-0.0075097,0.0041543,0.0086487,-0.0022383,0.0051117,0.002668,-0.0015803,0.0086967,-0.0013967,-0.0014863,-0.0009577
Surui,0.0578222,-0.3174546,0.1171336,0.10672,-0.1138058,-0.015395,-0.3258188,-0.3916914,-0.0175482,-0.020775,0.0020784,-0.0046758,0.0023192,0.0358646,-0.0134908,0.0005834,0.0109002,-0.0012416,0.0002514,0.0012756,-0.0035436,0.012662,-0.0067784,-0.0074466,-0.009149
Yukpa,0.054635,-0.31583,0.111251,0.099484,-0.111098,-0.020638,-0.304574,-0.363677,-0.01084,-0.015672,-0.01023,-0.006894,0.003717,0.024359,-0.010858,0.006895,0.012256,0.004307,-0.000754,0.00075,0.000499,0.008656,0.001356,0.0003 61,-0.006706
Zapotec,0.0539522,-0.2983626,0.1125328,0.0919258,-0.1038348,-0.0159524,-0.267254,-0.3242634,-0.0066264,-0.0142508,-0.0050014,-0.0057552,0.0030028,0.0200376,-0.0058362,0.0001592,0.0028166,-0.0007856,0.0026146,0.0012506,-0.0024708,0.0052428,9.86e-05,0.0003858,-0.0012694


Please post both, your distances, and your ancestry composition results like if you were full Amerindian:

My results:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 11.5941% / 0.11594069
62.4 Andian_A
33.4 Amerindian_North
4.2 Andian_B

I get the same results in ADC: 0.25x and ADC: 0.5x



Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.14430411 Andian_B
0.14508666 Andian_A
0.20590326 Amerindian_North
0.38857563 Cree
0.56697759 Bolivian_Pando
0.57761041 Quechua
0.57792494 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.59271928 Mixtec
0.59471173 Zapotec
0.59842629 Mayan
0.60844149 Pima
0.60997524 Huichol
0.61875830 Colla
0.62255635 Mixe
0.62462349 Bolivian_LaPaz
0.64096240 Aymara
0.64661427 Yukpa
0.65170610 Piapoco
0.65529883 Wichi
0.67016640 Karitiana
0.67546141 Surui


I'm surprised I get Andean populations, Amerindian North and Cree as my closest Amerindian populations and not Venezuelan Amerindian tribes. I'm very ignorant on this, but my guess is that my high European mixture is what it causes this (more closeness to more Caucasoid-like Amerindian populations, IDK).

alnortedelsur
03-13-2023, 07:44 PM
I just made the experiment of adding a few European and African coordinates to see how my results come out. Obviously my European references go on the very top of the list, but the distances and order of closeness to the different Amerindian populations remains the same (no surprises here, I guess).

I added Spanish_Mallorca, Italian_Liguria, and SSA_Nigger Congo.

My ancestry composition results get much more realistic with much more shorter distances/ I'm surprised, however, on how high Amerindian I come up on ADC:0.25 and ADC:0.50 :eek:, NO WAY!

So, actually, the only realistic result is with ADC:0:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.4161% / 0.02416090
58.8 Italian_Liguria
28.4 Spanish_Mallorca
7.6 Bolivian_Cochabamba
5.2 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.7794% / 0.02779363 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.6 Spanish_Mallorca
37.8 Italian_Liguria
19.6 Amerindian_North
3.0 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.7794% / 0.02779363 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.6 Spanish_Mallorca
37.8 Italian_Liguria
19.6 Amerindian_North
3.0 SSA



Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.07094152 Italian_Liguria
0.07614889 Spanish_Mallorca
0.14430411 Andian_B
0.14508666 Andian_A
0.20590326 Amerindian_North
0.38857563 Cree
0.56697759 Bolivian_Pando
0.57761041 Quechua
0.57792494 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.59271928 Mixtec
0.59471173 Zapotec
0.59842629 Mayan
0.60844149 Pima
0.60997524 Huichol
0.61875830 Colla
0.62255635 Mixe
0.62462349 Bolivian_LaPaz
0.64096240 Aymara
0.64661427 Yukpa
0.65170610 Piapoco
0.65529883 Wichi
0.67016640 Karitiana
0.67546141 Surui
0.71075688 SSA:West_African_Niger-Congo:Igbo

alnortedelsur
03-13-2023, 09:24 PM
Nobody? Come on!

Gallop
03-13-2023, 09:38 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 15.1467% / 0.15146651
56.0 Andian_A
34.0 Andian_B
10.0 Amerindian_North

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 15.3011% / 0.15301130
56.8 Andian_A
31.8 Andian_B
11.4 Amerindian_North

Distance to: Father_scaled
0.15931578 Andian_A
0.15992523 Andian_B
0.26752769 Amerindian_North
0.43945927 Cree
0.62047806 Bolivian_Pando
0.63062203 Quechua
0.63125110 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.64596251 Mixtec
0.64811066 Zapotec
0.65158369 Mayan
0.66179304 Pima
0.66315383 Huichol
0.67182946 Colla
0.67522325 Mixe
0.67772855 Bolivian_LaPaz
0.69378371 Aymara
0.69954609 Yukpa
0.70473948 Piapoco
0.70839267 Wichi
0.72277731 Karitiana
0.72824801 Surui


Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.15731650 Andian_A
0.15789875 Andian_B
0.26924708 Amerindian_North
0.44017403 Cree
0.62142453 Bolivian_Pando
0.63146473 Quechua
0.63208278 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.64666551 Mixtec
0.64872832 Zapotec
0.65240975 Mayan
0.66267643 Pima
0.66394383 Huichol
0.67281628 Colla
0.67600699 Mixe
0.67861229 Bolivian_LaPaz
0.69462459 Aymara
0.70037053 Yukpa
0.70554196 Piapoco
0.70919826 Wichi
0.72357090 Karitiana
0.72914026 Surui


Soy de los Andes principalmente, y AmerindianNorte que no sé lo que es, me ajusto sensiblemente mejor que mi padre porque soy también algo japonés.

alnortedelsur
03-13-2023, 09:46 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 15.1467% / 0.15146651
56.0 Andian_A
34.0 Andian_B
10.0 Amerindian_North

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 15.3011% / 0.15301130
56.8 Andian_A
31.8 Andian_B
11.4 Amerindian_North

Distance to: Father_scaled
0.15931578 Andian_A
0.15992523 Andian_B
0.26752769 Amerindian_North
0.43945927 Cree
0.62047806 Bolivian_Pando
0.63062203 Quechua
0.63125110 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.64596251 Mixtec
0.64811066 Zapotec
0.65158369 Mayan
0.66179304 Pima
0.66315383 Huichol
0.67182946 Colla
0.67522325 Mixe
0.67772855 Bolivian_LaPaz
0.69378371 Aymara
0.69954609 Yukpa
0.70473948 Piapoco
0.70839267 Wichi
0.72277731 Karitiana
0.72824801 Surui


Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.15731650 Andian_A
0.15789875 Andian_B
0.26924708 Amerindian_North
0.44017403 Cree
0.62142453 Bolivian_Pando
0.63146473 Quechua
0.63208278 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.64666551 Mixtec
0.64872832 Zapotec
0.65240975 Mayan
0.66267643 Pima
0.66394383 Huichol
0.67281628 Colla
0.67600699 Mixe
0.67861229 Bolivian_LaPaz
0.69462459 Aymara
0.70037053 Yukpa
0.70554196 Piapoco
0.70919826 Wichi
0.72357090 Karitiana
0.72914026 Surui


Soy de los Andes principalmente, y AmerindianNorte que no sé lo que es, me ajusto sensiblemente mejor que mi padre porque soy también algo japonés.

Wow! same order of closeness to different Amerindian populations than me :eek:

Beowulf
03-13-2023, 09:49 PM
Target: ivorix
Distance: 14.1115% / 0.14111538
69.4 Andian_A
20.4 Andian_B
10.2 Amerindian_North

Distance to: ivorix
0.14544229 Andian_A
0.15090304 Andian_B
0.26579635 Amerindian_North
0.43986457 Cree
0.62067982 Bolivian_Pando
0.63091571 Quechua
0.63144832 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.64616607 Mixtec
0.64822529 Zapotec
0.65173408 Mayan
0.66190663 Pima
0.66335866 Huichol
0.67219694 Colla
0.67559350 Mixe
0.67794272 Bolivian_LaPaz
0.69414517 Aymara
0.69981296 Yukpa
0.70514894 Piapoco
0.70872065 Wichi
0.72312331 Karitiana
0.72847058 Surui

Gallop
03-13-2023, 09:53 PM
Wow! same order of closeness to different Amerindian populations than me :eek:

Porque mi padre y yo también somos venezolanos.

alnortedelsur
03-13-2023, 09:59 PM
Porque mi padre y yo también somos venezolanos.

Hey paisano! xD

Kriptc06
03-13-2023, 10:07 PM
Target: Kriptc_23nme
Distance: 9.7024% / 0.09702370
50.2 Amerindian_North
34.6 Andian_A
15.2 Andian_B


Distance*to: Kriptc_23nme
0.15310029 Andian_B
0.15730885 Amerindian_North
0.16566853 Andian_A
0.34879233 Cree
0.52718729 Bolivian_Pando
0.53762607 Quechua
0.53788414 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.55221379 Mixtec
0.55452072 Zapotec
0.55815758 Mayan
0.56751157 Pima
0.56908385 Huichol
0.57872740 Colla
0.58231621 Mixe
0.58487664 Bolivian_LaPaz
0.60110255 Aymara
0.60639168 Yukpa
0.61160867 Piapoco
0.61528949 Wichi
0.63031653 Karitiana
0.63572743 Surui

alnortedelsur
03-13-2023, 10:07 PM
Target: ivorix
Distance: 14.1115% / 0.14111538
69.4 Andian_A
20.4 Andian_B
10.2 Amerindian_North

Distance to: ivorix
0.14544229 Andian_A
0.15090304 Andian_B
0.26579635 Amerindian_North
0.43986457 Cree
0.62067982 Bolivian_Pando
0.63091571 Quechua
0.63144832 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.64616607 Mixtec
0.64822529 Zapotec
0.65173408 Mayan
0.66190663 Pima
0.66335866 Huichol
0.67219694 Colla
0.67559350 Mixe
0.67794272 Bolivian_LaPaz
0.69414517 Aymara
0.69981296 Yukpa
0.70514894 Piapoco
0.70872065 Wichi
0.72312331 Karitiana
0.72847058 Surui

Same order as me and Gallop. Are you Venezuelan too? xD

Jokes aside, I think I'm getting the same order of distances to the different Amerindian populations as any full European, regardless of my Amerindian mixture being from Venezuela.

That tells me that my high European input is determinant in my order of closeness to the different Amerindian populations, regardless of my Venezuelan Amerindian mixture. My Venezuelan Amerindian mixture isn't relevant enough as for putting me closer to them and not in that same order (but with shorter distances in my case, of course) as full Europeans.

Boudin
03-13-2023, 11:08 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 15.1467% / 0.15146651
56.0 Andian_A
34.0 Andian_B
10.0 Amerindian_North


<tbody>
Target: Boudin
Distance: 14.2592% / 0.14259234



79.8
Andian_B





13.0
Andian_A





7.2
Amerindian_North




</tbody>

ScandinavianCelt
03-14-2023, 04:58 PM
Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 13.6758% / 0.13675844
93.6 Andian_B
6.4 Amerindian_North

This test is weak.