23&Me New Genetic Communities

[Grace O'Malley]

I've just seen that 23&Me are now doing GCs. There aren't as good as Ancestry because this is what I've got.

https://i.imgur.com/jxBjhO9.png

This is the only GC I've got. Only for the Northern part of Ireland. It does include Sligo and northern part of Connacht which is my paternal ancestry. There is nothing for my maternal side which they have a GC for called Central and Southern Ireland. They might possibly improve in the future and be more fine detailed like Ancestry.

https://i.imgur.com/GrNZZbF.png

Has anyone else got a Genetic Community at 23&Me?

If you have does it match your ancestry?

[Beowulf]

i Wonder if i do 23 and me to my Grandfather would guess correctly his english side from West Middlands

still those communities seems more accurate then My Heritage one's thye gived to my Mother and Grandfather a Dutch genetic group :picard2:

[Grace O'Malley]

i Wonder if i do 23 and me to my Grandfather would guess correctly his english side from West Middlands

still those communities seems more accurate then My Heritage one's thye gived to my Mother and Grandfather a Dutch genetic group :picard2:

My Heritage is not that accurate. I have a cousin who has a Finnish GC on MyHeritage. Ancestry are much better with their Genetic Groups so I'd say there is more a chance of an English GC being picked up using Ancestry. They have more GCs and are better at detecting them.

23&Me have also got GCs for Spain and Portugal.

These are the GCs for British & Irish on 23&Me.

https://i.imgur.com/EmeMgP7.png

Ancestry have a huge amount of GCs and they are accurate. 23&Me are a bit broad but they haven't done this before so I'm sure they will improve and add more later.

[Beowulf]

My Heritage is not that accurate. I have a cousin who has a Finnish GC on MyHeritage. Ancestry are much better with their Genetic Groups so I'd say there is more a chance of an English GC being picked up using Ancestry. They have more GCs and are better at detecting them.

23&Me have also got GCs for Spain and Portugal.

These are the GCs for British & Irish on 23&Me.

https://i.imgur.com/EmeMgP7.png

Ancestry have a huge amount of GCs and they are accurate. 23&Me are a bit broad but they haven't done this before so I'm sure they will improve and add more later.

i would like to if FTDNA do the same i hope they will add genetic groups i mean for now is the DNA test most accurate for me and for Iberia my Heritage only gived me one a genetic group of half south Spain very ambigous and later a genetic group in Greece

[Grace O'Malley]

i would like to if FTDNA do the same i hope they will add genetic groups i mean for now is the DNA test most accurate for me and for Iberia my Heritage only gived me one a genetic group of half south Spain very ambigous and later a genetic group in Greece

I don't think FTDNA are too bothered about the autosomal testing as most of their bread and butter is geared towards ydna testing. MyHeritage very rarely update. They have never updated their Ancestry Composition since they started and the GCs are not really refined.

The best for updates and GCs are Ancestry. 23&Me are very accurate with their Ancestry Comp but behind in the other areas. 23&Me only updated on the later chip so people that have tested on the earlier chips are not getting any updates. Ancestry updates everyone no matter when they tested. So I personally would go with Ancestry.

[Beowulf]

I don't think FTDNA are too bothered about the autosomal testing as most of their bread and butter is geared towards ydna testing. MyHeritage very rarely update. They have never updated their Ancestry Composition since they started and the GCs are not really refined.

The best for updates and GCs are Ancestry. 23&Me are very accurate with their Ancestry Comp but behind in the other areas. 23&Me only updated on the later chip so people that have tested on the earlier chips are not getting any updates. Ancestry updates everyone no matter when they tested. So I personally would go with Ancestry.

Thanks i was thinking in testing again with a better company the last time i tested myself was in 2019 but first i would like to test Paternal Grandfathers and my Great Grandmother(she is still alive :) ) after that i would like to test again.

[Mortimer]

Mine is still the same as always. I see no genetic communities but i see the country matches, they have been there since always. They are not new.


69.6%
Greek & Balkan
Country Matches

Romania Highly Likely Match

[Mortimer]

Yes I see now they are doing genetic groups too, but i dont have one yet.

[Grace O'Malley]

Thanks i was thinking in testing again with a better company the last time i tested myself was in 2019 but first i would like to test Paternal Grandfathers and my Great Grandmother(she is still alive :) ) after that i would like to test again.

I think that is an excellent way to go. Test older relatives while you still can. You are so fortunate to still have your Grandparents and Great Grandparents. Both my grandfathers died years before I was born and I mean years as in decades. My paternal Grandfather was 64 when my father was born and died when my father was 17 and my mother's father also died when she was 17. Well before I existed. :) So definitely get some older relatives tested as it will definitely help you reach further back into your ancestry.

[Grace O'Malley]

Yes I see now they are doing genetic groups too, but i dont have one yet.

They seem to be rolling them out a bit at a time so I'm sure you will get a GC and hopefully don't have to wait too long. Are you on the later chip?

[Petalpusher]

I don't see it yet, still get that


https://i.postimg.cc/8CBdjpcQ/Captureanc2.png

https://i.postimg.cc/pd2hcDW4/Captureance1.png

[Mortimer]

They seem to be rolling them out a bit at a time so I'm sure you will get a GC and hopefully don't have to wait too long. Are you on the later chip?

Im on V3, I dont know if V3 will get it too?

[Beowulf]

I think that is an excellent way to go. Test older relatives while you still can. You are so fortunate to still have your Grandparents and Great Grandparents. Both my grandfathers died years before I was born and I mean years as in decades. My paternal Grandfather was 64 when my father was born and died when my father was 17 and my mother's father also died when she was 17. Well before I existed. :) So definitely get some older relatives tested as it will definitely help you reach further back into your ancestry.

Yeah sure, and even some other relatives are thinking to do the test too also testing my Great Grandmother will help me more about my Italian Ancestry ( cames partly from her ) she have a interesting look, not very tall, dark brown eyes and natural Blonde im so excited to test them :)

[Grace O'Malley]

Im on V3, I dont know if V3 will get it too?

Unfortunately you won't get it. You have to be on V5 to get the update. That's the downside of 23&Me as they don't update all their older customers. I'm tested on the older chip and also the V5. All my other family members are on older chips so no update for them.

[Grace O'Malley]

I don't see it yet, still get that


https://i.postimg.cc/8CBdjpcQ/Captureanc2.png

https://i.postimg.cc/pd2hcDW4/Captureance1.png

They have only done them for British & Irish and also Spanish & Portuguese so you will get it once they roll them all out. You need to be on the V5 chip though.

[Mortimer]

Unfortunately you won't get it. You have to be on V5 to get the update. That's the downside of 23&Me as they don't update all their older customers. I'm tested on the older chip and also the V5. All my other family members are on older chips so no update for them.

The funny thing is when i first tested that was like 12 years ago or more and i paid 500-600 euros. I was on V2. Then I paid for the upgrade to V3 also 50 euro or something. And I wont get any updates anymore, they forgot me. Quiete bad company.

[Petalpusher]

They have only done them for British & Irish and also Spanish & Portuguese so you will get it once they roll them all out. You need to be on the V5 chip though.

I still have a bit of Brit&Irish (less than +20%, like before) but im not on V5 anyway, i tested in 2014.

[Grace O'Malley]

The funny thing is when i first tested that was like 12 years ago or more and i paid 500-600 euros. I was on V2. Then I paid for the upgrade to V3 also 50 euro or something. And I wont get any updates anymore, they forgot me. Quiete bad company.

Agree. They've got no loyalty to their earlier customers. They should just update everyone with any new features.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Unfortunately you won't get it. You have to be on V5 to get the update. That's the downside of 23&Me as they don't update all their older customers. I'm tested on the older chip and also the V5. All my other family members are on older chips so no update for them.

Out of curiosity Grace, how did that process work out? You had to send another kit sample? I did it with the V4 chip for example, if I were to do it now with the V5, wouldn't the results overlap with each other and I would be left with just the V5?

[Grace O'Malley]

Out of curiosity Grace, how did that process work out? You had to send another kit sample? I did it with the V4 chip for example, if I were to do it now with the V5, wouldn't the results overlap with each other and I would be left with just the V5?

You have to send in another sample and pay the full price. You still will have your V4 Ancestry Comp. You have to weigh it up as to whether it is worth it? It's the only way to get any future updates. They could at least give older customers some discount to upgrade.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

You have to send in another sample and pay the full price. You still will have your V4 Ancestry Comp. You have to weigh it up as to whether it is worth it? It's the only way to get any future updates. They could at least give older customers some discount to upgrade.

I remember at the time of the transition from V4 to V5 they offered a deal to upgrade at a much lower price, and I don't think you even had to send another sample, they used the sample they already had in their database. I think Longbowman did it this way but he lost access to the old V4.

[Grace O'Malley]

I remember at the time of the transition from V4 to V5 they offered a deal to upgrade at a much lower price, and I don't think you even had to send another sample, they used the sample they already had in their database. I think Longbowman did it this way but he lost access to the old V4.

Oh could be. I ended up just getting another test so I have two ACs on there. That would be the way to go then and saves all the hassle and extra cost of posting. It would be much quicker also. I wouldn't have a clue as to how long they keep samples as I'd be interested in upgrading my mother's test.

[RyoHazuki]

It's disappointingly broad. I only got one community and it was Southern England, which stretches from Devon to Kent. It seems so pointless.

[Coastal Elite]

Two or three new communities just in time for St. Paddy's day

https://i.imgur.com/SWh0CfO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wnxqvpR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/04mMzEK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ad7ACJT.jpg

[Luke35]

Excellent work from 23andMe.

My 2nd great-grandmother was 1/2 English, from Cornwall, and 1/2 Northern Irish. My mother also just got assigned the same genetic groups.

Let's hope 23andMe continues to employ this feature for all of the ethnic regions.

https://i.imgur.com/8SxI2Na.png

https://i.imgur.com/WXA9g73.png

[kingmob]

I've just seen that 23&Me are now doing GCs. There aren't as good as Ancestry because this is what I've got.



Which option is that? Looking at my wife's page, but there seems to be no change.

NVM, just found it, it seems it's a good match for her (East Anglia).

https://i.ibb.co/Cz2Pmn3/Screenshot-2023-03-16-at-21-00-36-Ancestry-Composition-23and-Me.png

[Scar95]

It might be just for anglos for now...

[Grace O'Malley]

I've just seen that 23&Me are now doing GCs. There aren't as good as Ancestry because this is what I've got.

https://i.imgur.com/jxBjhO9.png

This is the only GC I've got. Only for the Northern part of Ireland. It does include Sligo and northern part of Connacht which is my paternal ancestry. There is nothing for my maternal side which they have a GC for called Central and Southern Ireland. They might possibly improve in the future and be more fine detailed like Ancestry.

https://i.imgur.com/GrNZZbF.png

Has anyone else got a Genetic Community at 23&Me?

If you have does it match your ancestry?

I've now got another GC added.

https://i.imgur.com/ygyzPv6.png

https://i.imgur.com/iKztydu.png

[Grace O'Malley]

Two or three new communities just in time for St. Paddy's day

https://i.imgur.com/SWh0CfO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wnxqvpR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/04mMzEK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ad7ACJT.jpg

They are obviously rolling it out to more people and adding more GCs. I should have a Munster GC or most likely Central and Southern Ireland. :) Hoping I get one.

You've got Highly Likely matches while I've only got Likely. Those Munster genes are super strong in you. :)

[happycow]

I will trust 23andme the day they remove the 23% egyptian they gave me. :picard1: Complete load of crap company.

[Grace O'Malley]

It might be just for anglos for now...

No they have it for a few countries now but the Spanish and Portuguese and British and Irish are much more detailed. They obviously can only pick up some people are the country level. I should get a North Munster GC but it's not detected.

Here are all the new GCs.


British & Irish
100%

Percent British & Irish ancestry: 100.
Match Confidence level for Ireland: Highly Likely Match
Ireland Highly Likely Match
Match Confidence level for Central and Northern Ireland: Likely Match
Central and Northern Ireland: Likely Match
Match Confidence level for North Central Ireland: Likely Match
North Central Ireland: Likely Match
Match Confidence level for Ireland: Highly Likely Match
Ireland: Highly Likely Match
Match Confidence level for United Kingdom: Highly Likely Match
United Kingdom: Highly Likely Match
Match Confidence level for Central North Midlands: Not Detected
Central North Midlands: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Central and Southern Ireland: Not Detected
Central and Southern Ireland: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Cumbria: Not Detected
Cumbria: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Donegal: Not Detected
Donegal: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for East Anglia: Not Detected
East Anglia: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for England: Not Detected
England: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Galway: Not Detected
Galway: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Galway and Central Ireland: Not Detected
Galway and Central Ireland: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Grampian: Not Detected
Grampian: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Lancashire: Not Detected
Lancashire: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Lancashire and West Yorkshire: Not Detected
Lancashire and West Yorkshire: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Mayo: Not Detected
Mayo: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for North Central England: Not Detected
North Central England: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for North East England: Not Detected
North East England: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Northeastern Coastal Scotland: Not Detected
Northeastern Coastal Scotland: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Northern England and Southern Scotland: Not Detected
Northern England and Southern Scotland: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Northern Ireland and Central Scottish Lowlands: Not Detected
Northern Ireland and Central Scottish Lowlands: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Northern Isles: Not Detected
Northern Isles: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Northern Munster: Not Detected
Northern Munster: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Northern West Midlands: Not Detected
Northern West Midlands: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Northern and Central Scotland: Not Detected
Northern and Central Scotland: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Scotland and Northern Ireland: Not Detected
Scotland and Northern Ireland: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Scottish Highlands and Western Islands: Not Detected
Scottish Highlands and Western Islands: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Scottish Lowlands and Southern Uplands: Not Detected
Scottish Lowlands and Southern Uplands: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for South England: Not Detected
South England: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for South England, South West England, and East Anglia: Not Detected
South England, South West England, and East Anglia: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for South West England: Not Detected
South West England: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Southern Leinster: Not Detected
Southern Leinster: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Southern Munster: Not Detected
Southern Munster: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Southwest Munster: Not Detected
Southwest Munster: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Wales: Not Detected
Wales: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for West Lancashire and Merseyside: Not Detected
West Lancashire and Merseyside: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for West Midlands: Not Detected
West Midlands: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for West Yorkshire: Not Detected
West Yorkshire: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Yorkshire, Humberside and the East Midlands: Not Detected
Yorkshire, Humberside and the East Midlands: Not Detected
Match Confidence level for Guernsey: Not Detected
Guernsey: Not Detected

Finnish
0.0%

Percent Finnish ancestry: 0.0.
Match Confidence level for Finland: Not Detected
Finland
French & German
0.0%

Percent French & German ancestry: 0.0.
Match Confidence level for Austria: Not Detected
Austria
Match Confidence level for Belgium: Not Detected
Belgium
Match Confidence level for France: Not Detected
France
Match Confidence level for Germany: Not Detected
Germany
Match Confidence level for Luxembourg: Not Detected
Luxembourg
Match Confidence level for Netherlands: Not Detected
Netherlands
Match Confidence level for Switzerland: Not Detected
Switzerland
Scandinavian
0.0%

Percent Scandinavian ancestry: 0.0.
Match Confidence level for Denmark: Not Detected
Denmark
Match Confidence level for Faroe Islands: Not Detected
Faroe Islands
Match Confidence level for Iceland: Not Detected
Iceland
Match Confidence level for Norway: Not Detected
Norway
Match Confidence level for Sweden: Not Detected
Sweden
Broadly Northwestern European
0.0%

Percent Broadly Northwestern European ancestry: 0.0.
Ashkenazi Jewish
0.0%

Percent Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry: 0.0.
Match Confidence level for Belarusian Jews: Not Detected
Belarusian Jews
Match Confidence level for Central European and Western Ukrainian Jews: Not Detected
Central European and Western Ukrainian Jews
Match Confidence level for Central and Southeastern Polish Jews: Not Detected
Central and Southeastern Polish Jews
Match Confidence level for Eastern Polish and Western Ukrainian Jews: Not Detected
Eastern Polish and Western Ukrainian Jews
Match Confidence level for Lithuanian Jews: Not Detected
Lithuanian Jews
Match Confidence level for West Central Ukrainian Jews: Not Detected
West Central Ukrainian Jews
Match Confidence level for Western European Jews: Not Detected
Western European Jews
Eastern European
0.0%

Percent Eastern European ancestry: 0.0.
Match Confidence level for Belarus: Not Detected
Belarus
Match Confidence level for Czech Republic: Not Detected
Czech Republic
Match Confidence level for Estonia: Not Detected
Estonia
Match Confidence level for Hungary: Not Detected
Hungary
Match Confidence level for Latvia: Not Detected
Latvia
Match Confidence level for Lithuania: Not Detected
Lithuania
Match Confidence level for Poland: Not Detected
Poland
Match Confidence level for Russia: Not Detected
Russia
Match Confidence level for Slovakia: Not Detected
Slovakia
Match Confidence level for Slovenia: Not Detected
Slovenia
Match Confidence level for Ukraine: Not Detected
Ukraine
Southern European
0.0%

Percent Southern European ancestry: 0.0.
Greek & Balkan
0.0%

Percent Greek & Balkan ancestry: 0.0.
Match Confidence level for Albania: Not Detected
Albania
Match Confidence level for Bosnia and Herzegovina: Not Detected
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Match Confidence level for Bulgaria: Not Detected
Bulgaria
Match Confidence level for Croatia: Not Detected
Croatia
Match Confidence level for Greece: Not Detected
Greece
Match Confidence level for Moldova: Not Detected
Moldova
Match Confidence level for Montenegro: Not Detected
Montenegro
Match Confidence level for North Macedonia: Not Detected
North Macedonia
Match Confidence level for Romania: Not Detected
Romania
Match Confidence level for Serbia: Not Detected
Serbia
Italian
0.0%

Percent Italian ancestry: 0.0.
Match Confidence level for Italy: Not Detected
Italy
Match Confidence level for Malta: Not Detected
Malta
Sardinian
0.0%

Percent Sardinian ancestry: 0.0.
Spanish & Portuguese
0.0%

Percent Spanish & Portuguese ancestry: 0.0.
Match Confidence level for Aragon, La Rioja, and Navarre: Not Detected
Aragon, La Rioja, and Navarre
Match Confidence level for Aveiro: Not Detected
Aveiro
Match Confidence level for Badajoz and Córdoba: Not Detected
Badajoz and Córdoba
Match Confidence level for Balearic Islands, Alicante, and Southern Valencia: Not Detected
Balearic Islands, Alicante, and Southern Valencia
Match Confidence level for Basque of Alava, Gipuzkoa, and Western Navarre: Not Detected
Basque of Alava, Gipuzkoa, and Western Navarre
Match Confidence level for Basque of Biscay: Not Detected
Basque of Biscay
Match Confidence level for Basque of Gipuzkoa: Not Detected
Basque of Gipuzkoa
Match Confidence level for Basque of Southwestern France: Not Detected
Basque of Southwestern France
Match Confidence level for Canary Islands: Not Detected
Canary Islands
Match Confidence level for Cantabria: Not Detected
Cantabria
Match Confidence level for Castile and León: Not Detected
Castile and León
Match Confidence level for Catalonia: Not Detected
Catalonia
Match Confidence level for Central Asturias: Not Detected
Central Asturias
Match Confidence level for Central and Eastern São Miguel Island: Not Detected
Central and Eastern São Miguel Island
Match Confidence level for Central and Southern Portugal: Not Detected
Central and Southern Portugal
Match Confidence level for Eastern Andalusia: Not Detected
Eastern Andalusia
Match Confidence level for Eastern Asturias: Not Detected
Eastern Asturias
Match Confidence level for Eastern La Mancha: Not Detected
Eastern La Mancha
Match Confidence level for Eastern Navarre: Not Detected
Eastern Navarre
Match Confidence level for Estremadura: Not Detected
Estremadura
Match Confidence level for Flores, Corvo, and Graciosa Islands: Not Detected
Flores, Corvo, and Graciosa Islands
Match Confidence level for Granada: Not Detected
Granada
Match Confidence level for Guarda and Viseu: Not Detected
Guarda and Viseu
Match Confidence level for Huelva, Seville, and Badajoz: Not Detected
Huelva, Seville, and Badajoz
Match Confidence level for Madeira: Not Detected
Madeira
Match Confidence level for Madrid and North Central Spain: Not Detected
Madrid and North Central Spain
Match Confidence level for Madrid and South Central Spain: Not Detected
Madrid and South Central Spain
Match Confidence level for Malaga: Not Detected
Malaga
Match Confidence level for Minho and Vila Real: Not Detected
Minho and Vila Real
Match Confidence level for Murcia: Not Detected
Murcia
Match Confidence level for Northern Galicia: Not Detected
Northern Galicia
Match Confidence level for Pico and Faial Islands: Not Detected
Pico and Faial Islands
Match Confidence level for Porto: Not Detected
Porto
Match Confidence level for Salamanca: Not Detected
Salamanca
Match Confidence level for Santa Maria Island: Not Detected
Santa Maria Island
Match Confidence level for Southern Andalusia: Not Detected
Southern Andalusia
Match Confidence level for Southwestern Galicia: Not Detected
Southwestern Galicia
Match Confidence level for São Jorge Island: Not Detected
São Jorge Island
Match Confidence level for Terceira Island: Not Detected
Terceira Island
Match Confidence level for Valencia and Castellón: Not Detected
Valencia and Castellón
Match Confidence level for Western Asturias: Not Detected
Western Asturias
Match Confidence level for Western Galicia: Not Detected
Western Galicia
Match Confidence level for Western São Miguel Island: Not Detected
Western São Miguel Island
Match Confidence level for Portugal: Not Detected
Portugal
Match Confidence level for Spain: Not Detected
Spain

[Coastal Elite]

They are obviously rolling it out to more people and adding more GCs. I should have a Munster GC or most likely Central and Southern Ireland. :) Hoping I get one.

You've got Highly Likely matches while I've only got Likely. Those Munster genes are super strong in you. :)

I'm sure you'll be getting more GCs. I think Munster genes must be easy to identify and isolate on these tests. A lot of Irish-Americans from south Ireland have been tested over the years, so they probably have a disproportionately large sample size.

Most importantly, Happy St. Patrick's Day. Have a good one.

[hazmatnik]

No changes for us, my paternal aunt and i still get Peloponnese as one of the top regions :picard1:

[Hulu]

No changes for us, my paternal aunt and i still get Peloponnese as one of the top regions :picard1:

I get it too. Peloponnese was settled by Albanians.

[hazmatnik]

I get it too. Peloponnese was settled by Albanians.

I know that but regardless it is ridiculous to have it right on top of everything else (we have 0 albanian and macedonian regions visible, but we do have them sort of unvisible, i explained that trick some months ago).

[Hulu]

I know that but regardless it is ridiculous to have it right on top of everything else (we have 0 albanian and macedonian regions visible, but we do have them sort of unvisible, i explained that trick some months ago).

Can you post all your regions? How are your results on G25 or other tests?

I saw your g25 you're like half and a half

[hazmatnik]

Me

https://i.postimg.cc/NfMLVG7d/nikola.jpg (https://postimg.cc/0rT8Ks4S)

Paternal aunt

https://i.postimg.cc/Zqrq3W45/mira.jpg (https://postimg.cc/CZxYpLR3)

Maternal aunt

https://i.postimg.cc/Dy8y6jnD/irena.jpg (https://postimg.cc/3dQTJZyC)

I have very very strong Vlach signal through my maternal side and something else.

My G25 cant work well without some Arabic (or maybe Jewish) imput.

[hazmatnik]

And to add that we have communities only i can see when looking at my aunts:

Vlore, Durres, Fier, Gjirokaster, Korce, Shkoder, Lezhe, Tearce, Prilep, Bitola, Resen.

[Hulu]

^ My theory why you get that is a lot of those who settled Greece were from former Yugo territories, either from slav settlement or later during Stefan Dusan where he took a good chunk of Kosovars and settled Greece.

[hazmatnik]

To me it looks like i have good chunk of Aromanian/Vlach descent. And thats why we think we are Albanians, there were some interacting catuns in Montenegro. Somehow we breeded with some prominent fises and thats why they are now among my closer cousins. And thats the cause why we think we are Kelmendis.

[Hulu]

To me it looks like i have good chunk of Aromanian/Vlach descent. And thats why we think we are Albanians, there were some interacting catuns in Montenegro. Somehow we breeded with some prominent fises and thats why they are now among my closer cousins. And thats the cause why we think we are Kelmendis.

I dont get Kosovo regions. Nor Macedonia or Montenegro. Only Albania and Greece.

[hazmatnik]

I dont get Kosovo regions. Nor Macedonia or Montenegro. Only Albania and Greece.

Kosovo is not covered at all by 23andme.

How you explain pretty high concetrations of our distant matches in Arbereshe territories in Italy?

[Hulu]

Kosovo is not covered at all by 23andme.

How you explain pretty high concetrations of our distant matches in Arbereshe teritorries in Italy?

Those from Peloponese went to Italy :D for real, during the turk occupation the arbereshe are mostly from the now greek areas. That's why Piana dei Albanesi was initially called Piana dei Greci.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piana_degli_Albanesi

[hazmatnik]

Those from Peloponese went to Italy :D for real, during the turk occupation the arbereshe are mostly from the now greek areas. That's why Pianna dei Albanesi was initially called Piana dei Greci.

We have bunch of matches from Piana and Mezzojuso and Santa Cristina Gela. Maybe is religion the answer, idk.
And many other places on Italian bootheel, with name "Albanese".

[Hulu]

We have bunch of matches from Piana and Mezzojuso and Santa Cristina Gela. Maybe is religion the answer, idk.
And many other places on Italian bootheel, with name "Albanese".

Santa Cristina Gela is arberesh. They are Arvanite from Morea- Peloponnese

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cristina_Gela

[hazmatnik]

Santa Cristina Gela is arberesh

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cristina_Gela

And story of my most recent paternal ancestors is that we are Shqiptars. But Y DNK doesnt support that (it doesn't support Serbian origins either, so it stays sort of mistery). But we do have very close cousins among Kelmendis and Triepshis. I'm perfectly fine with that and i would be very happy if i can confirm that story, but for now i can't.
I'm very unique E-V13 case among Serbs.

[Hulu]

And story of my most recent paternal ancestors is that we are Shqiptars. But Y DNK doesnt support that (it doesn't support Serbian origins either, so it stays sort of mistery). But we do have very close cousins among Kelmendis and Triepshis. I'm perfectly fine with that and i would be very happy if i can confirm that story, but for now i can't.

Join the Albanian project on FTDNA. They will be able to tell by checking your STR.

[hazmatnik]

Join the Albanian project on FTDNA. Skerdilaid who was a member here is an admin. He will be able to tell by checking your STR.

I have fantastic cooperation with Rrënjët and since i'm a person who gladly take sides they are my only option and i will never step up from them even i'm maybe wrong.

[hazmatnik]

Join the Albanian project on FTDNA. They will be able to tell by checking your STR.

Keep in mind that i don't have only me on my heart but that E-Y20805* I don't know how to explain that but we became so close friends. My brain runs on tribal connections even now. 3000 years later.

[MandM]

And story of my most recent paternal ancestors is that we are Shqiptars. But Y DNK doesnt support that (it doesn't support Serbian origins either, so it stays sort of mistery). But we do have very close cousins among Kelmendis and Triepshis. I'm perfectly fine with that and i would be very happy if i can confirm that story, but for now i can't.
I'm very unique E-V13 case among Serbs.

If its not Serbian or Albanian then its probably Aromanian, have you talked to people who are your relatives or dictent relatives on myheretage, 23andme and others, on my heretage almost all my Greek matches are of Aromanian decent probably 90% of them, and I have quite a few Aromanians from Romania to, and one Aromanian on Ftdna he poped upp on my Y 111 we talked and he is goding to take the big Y700 to see if we have same subclade or at least one that many is close to eachother

[hazmatnik]

If its not Serbian or Albanian then its probably Aromanian, have you talked to people who are your relatives or dictent relatives on myheretage, 23andme and others, on my heretage almost all my Greek matches are of Aromanian decent probably 90% of them, and I have quite a few Aromanians from Romania to, and one Aromanian on Ftdna he poped upp on my Y 111 we talked and he is goding to take the big Y700 to see if we have same subclade or at least one that many is close to eachother


Yup, thats my guess too. Well, since there are no more Vlachs in my region of interest (E Montenegro and NW Albania) they are all Bosniaks, Albanians and small amount of Serbs now. And discussing anything else is pretty delicate :rolleyes:

[Coastal Elite]

Two or three new communities just in time for St. Paddy's day

https://i.imgur.com/SWh0CfO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wnxqvpR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/04mMzEK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ad7ACJT.jpg

For comparison these are the latest updates to my AncestryDNA Irish communities. They just added East Cork & Southeast Limerick to my communities on Ancestry.

https://i.imgur.com/2ThTBCy.jpg

[Grace O'Malley]

For comparison these are the latest updates to my AncestryDNA Irish communities. They just added East Cork & Southeast Limerick to my communities on Ancestry.

https://i.imgur.com/2ThTBCy.jpg

This is my comparison

https://i.imgur.com/Ejpmc3y.png

Ancestry

https://i.imgur.com/YiDLht0.png

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/NjX3vj2P/Capture.png

https://i.postimg.cc/50yp1skN/Capture1.png

neat

[Graham]

Playing catch up with AncestryDNA who have much better data to play with. Anything that gets away from the inaccurate urban matches of before is an improvement though.

[Scar95]

Nothing yet, I am v5.

[Celestia]

118655

These are my new communities.

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

https://i.imgur.com/emWpi7O.jpg?2

not as good as ancestry
doesn't give my Newry ancestry like Ancestry does

still no regions for my Spanish half

[Coastal Elite]

Mo mháthair got the additional community of Northern Munster as a "Likely Match".

https://i.imgur.com/dLi3LJ7.jpg

[Ellethwyn]

Nice to see this. All I knew was great granny was from Cork:)

https://i.imgur.com/SH5PHFN.png

https://i.imgur.com/GSrhBwk.png

https://i.imgur.com/oXIiXsP.png