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gixajo
03-19-2023, 04:39 PM
Can we?:


West Eurasian populations can be modeled as the admixture of four different ancestral components (2): Eastern and Western European hunter-gatherer and Iranian and Levantine Neolithic.




(2)I Lazaridis, et al., Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East. Nature 536, 419–424 (2016).

Just for fun, distances for most Europeans would be over 8%.

If you are West Eurasian from Eastern Mediterranean or Iranian, it“s a lucky model for you.


Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:BAJ001,0.05805,0.1645 16,-0.029415,-0.133077,0.022158,-0.060519,-0.015276,-0.017538,0.089786,0.02278,0.018512,-0.025178,0.052031,0.004954,0.000136,-0.000133,-0.012386,-0.00152,-0.008422,0.017133,-0.003244,0.005935,0.000616,-0.013134,0
Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I0867,0.072847,0.1726 4,-0.030924,-0.147935,0.034468,-0.068607,-0.016451,-0.011999,0.072606,0.048839,0.010555,-0.013038,0.029583,-0.008257,-0.024837,0.007425,0.020861,-0.008615,-0.004651,0.023886,-0.00025,0.004328,0,-0.005302,-0.006826
Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1707,0.067156,0.1401 43,-0.041483,-0.137276,0.032929,-0.063029,-0.006345,-0.017768,0.069947,0.036812,0.031991,-0.014237,0.032111,0.008945,-0.018594,-0.001326,0.003129,-0.004687,0.003142,0.009254,-0.009858,0.013849,0.000123,0.004579,-0.002275
Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1710,0.092197,0.1827 95,-0.021873,-0.134046,0.0397,-0.058009,-0.01034,-0.00923,0.061971,0.038452,0.016564,-0.015586,0.032111,-0.006606,-0.042073,0.020949,0.024251,0.009248,-0.01169,0.026638,-0.001622,0.007296,-0.006409,-0.011206,-0.0097
Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNC:I1699,0.067156,0.1685 78,-0.023004,-0.150842,0.028621,-0.071954,-0.013866,-0.017999,0.077719,0.037905,0.006496,-0.013188,0.032705,-0.000275,-0.014929,0.008486,-0.000913,-0.007728,-0.013575,0.012381,-0.009982,0.01014,0.002958,0.003012,-0.001916
Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1290,0.036423,0.0 69056,-0.151603,-0.011951,-0.121253,0.011992,0.017626,-0.005307,-0.084059,-0.051026,0.003085,-0.005695,0.009217,-0.014588,0.026058,0.068814,-0.005737,0.008615,0.014581,-0.032391,0.01435,-0.02201,-0.016885,-0.041452,0.02874
Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1945,0.048944,0.0 69056,-0.15198,-0.000646,-0.128332,0.031236,0.014806,0.002538,-0.086105,-0.058498,-0.007795,0.002997,-0.001338,-0.000413,0.029858,0.054494,-0.015516,0.003927,0.016466,-0.027763,0.002121,-0.023618,-0.008258,-0.034342,0.020118
Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1947,0.042115,0.0 62963,-0.158768,0.014858,-0.118176,0.020638,0.012691,-0.005077,-0.078537,-0.061414,-0.00065,-0.003297,0.001041,-0.012937,0.034473,0.063908,-0.004955,0.014823,0.006913,-0.035017,0.010357,-0.029182,-0.012325,-0.035788,0.022752
Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1949,0.034147,0.0 58901,-0.162162,0.017119,-0.119407,0.029284,0.018331,0.001385,-0.077515,-0.047381,-0.005359,0.003297,0.005352,-0.002477,0.03963,0.049721,0.012647,0.000633,0.0184 78,-0.03064,0.012478,-0.039322,-0.012202,-0.048682,0.013651
Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1954,0.053497,0.0 72103,-0.150848,0.004199,-0.126177,0.024542,0.022091,0.000462,-0.086514,-0.05376,-0.00341,-0.005395,0.008176,-0.000963,0.02823,0.043755,-0.01356,0.006334,0.011816,-0.04127,0.003494,-0.030048,-0.005669,-0.036391,0.025866
EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0061,0.125205,0.034528,0.13727 2,0.204137,-0.015695,0.057451,-0.026791,-0.03046,-0.01084,-0.090571,0.025982,-0.009591,0.022745,-0.048581,0.019679,0.016309,-0.022426,0.0019,-0.006913,0.017258,-0.004617,0.011747,0.007025,-0.020485,-0.008502
EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0211,0.12862,0.032497,0.125958 ,0.221902,0.003385,0.056057,-0.014571,-0.010615,0.007567,-0.084011,0.009581,-0.029674,0.047423,-0.018304,0.014794,0.041766,-0.020079,0.002154,-0.007668,0.003252,-0.01435,0.017188,0.005916,-0.027594,-0.00958
EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:UzOO77,0.117238,0.02945,0.12633 5,0.20446,-0.018773,0.058009,-0.017626,-0.029306,-0.004704,-0.083464,0.019324,-0.016036,0.029881,-0.05037,0.022122,0.030496,-0.001956,0.005448,0.001257,0.017008,-0.003494,0.02201,0.015159,-0.014942,-0.012933
EHG:RUS_Samara_HG:I0124,0.119514,0.048745,0.113513 ,0.206398,-0.008001,0.054384,-0.013161,-0.023537,-0.01309,-0.090936,0.01429,-0.018883,0.026164,-0.03647,0.020629,0.012994,-0.005867,-0.000507,-0.00729,0.009004,-0.011854,0.025102,0.009737,-0.02651,-0.009101
WHG:I1875,0.130897,0.120848,0.191577,0.194447,0.15 9107,0.048248,0.015746,0.040152,0.087332,0.007472,-0.016076,-0.015436,0.017839,-0.003303,0.047909,0.047069,0.007302,0.018497,-0.003268,0.057027,0.087471,0.00915,-0.048436,-0.143153,0.01449
WHG:Rochedane,0.118376,0.111708,0.178001,0.184111, 0.150182,0.044623,0.010575,0.034383,0.090809,0.028 064,-0.014615,-0.016186,0.013974,-0.002752,0.058767,0.069344,0.002738,0.014189,-0.015335,0.054151,0.101446,0.013231,-0.050778,-0.178579,0.019519
WHG:ITA_Villabruna:Villabruna,0.121791,0.114755,0. 18592,0.184111,0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.035998 ,0.092445,0.018041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
WHG:LUX_Loschbour:I0001,0.133173,0.106631,0.20176, 0.192186,0.164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0.0965 35,0.02278,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
Beowulf
03-19-2023, 04:44 PM
Target: Ivorix
Distance: 7.7270% / 0.07727009
53.2 Levant_Neolithic
25.6 EHG
13.6 WHG
7.6 Iran_Neolithic
Figaro
03-19-2023, 04:46 PM
Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 9.2506% / 0.09250608
44.4 Levant_Neolithic
38.8 EHG
12.0 WHG
4.8 Iran_Neolithic

Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 8.2790% / 0.08279007
43.4 Levant_Neolithic
40.6 EHG
11.0 WHG
5.0 Iran_Neolithic

Target: CordedWife_scaled
Distance: 16.2573% / 0.16257273
50.0 EHG
44.0 Levant_Neolithic
6.0 Iran_Neolithic

Target: CordedFriend_scaled
Distance: 10.1739% / 0.10173930
47.2 Levant_Neolithic
35.6 EHG
10.2 WHG
7.0 Iran_Neolithic

Huh. My friend, Anglo/Celt-German-Swiss ancestry, scores higher Iran_Neo than both of my parents.
Annihilus
03-19-2023, 04:47 PM
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 6.8612% / 0.06861212
50.4 Levant_Neolithic
25.8 Iran_Neolithic
23.8 EHG
alnortedelsur
03-19-2023, 04:49 PM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.0558% / 0.07055800
51.2 Levant_Neolithic
23.6 EHG
9.8 WHG
9.2 Iran_Neolithic
3.2 Yukpa
3.0 SSA



Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.19367573 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1707
0.19766020 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:BAJ001
0.20276131 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1710
0.20338182 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNC:I1699
0.20772833 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I0867
0.28428202 EHG:RUS_Samara_HG:I0124
0.29428102 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:UzOO77
0.29429163 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1954
0.29624870 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0061
0.29698253 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1290
0.29726589 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1945
0.30006345 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1947
0.30258800 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1949
0.30622190 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0211
0.37451111 WHG:I1875
0.38036328 WHG:Rochedane
0.38121281 WHG:ITA_Villabruna:Villabruna
0.41145481 WHG:LUX_Loschbour:I0001
0.64661427 Yukpa
0.71075688 SSA:West_African_Niger-Congo:Igbo
vader
03-19-2023, 04:53 PM
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 8.2423% / 0.08242311
56.2 Levant_Neolithic
22.6 EHG
14.8 WHG
6.4 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 8.1285% / 0.08128471
57.0 Levant_Neolithic
23.6 EHG
14.2 WHG
5.2 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 7.9004% / 0.07900442
55.2 Levant_Neolithic
23.6 EHG
14.2 WHG
7.0 Iran_Neolithic

Target: LusoGF_Simulated
Distance: 8.5225% / 0.08522501
45.6 Levant_Neolithic
29.0 EHG
23.8 Iran_Neolithic
1.6 WHG
Mortimer
03-19-2023, 04:55 PM
Why are the distances for europeans so high? Isnt there also steppe and ANE as ancestral components?
Jingle Bell
03-19-2023, 04:56 PM
Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 3.1947% / 0.03194713
35.4 SSA_1
30.4 Levant_Neolithic
11.8 EHG
8.2 SSA_2
6.8 WHG
5.6 Iran_Neolithic
1.0 Amerindian
0.8 SSA_4
vader
03-19-2023, 05:01 PM
Why are the distances for europeans so high? Isnt there also steppe and ANE as ancestral components?

Steppe is much more recent, non-basal… it has these ancestral components (plus chg) inside of it.
Defcon2
03-19-2023, 05:26 PM
Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 9.3995% / 0.09399453
57.2 Levant_Neolithic
23.4 EHG
13.4 WHG
6.0 Iran_Neolithic
Defcon2
03-19-2023, 05:33 PM
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 8.2423% / 0.08242311
56.2 Levant_Neolithic
22.6 EHG
14.8 WHG
6.4 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 8.1285% / 0.08128471
57.0 Levant_Neolithic
23.6 EHG
14.2 WHG
5.2 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 7.9004% / 0.07900442
55.2 Levant_Neolithic
23.6 EHG
14.2 WHG
7.0 Iran_Neolithic

Target: LusoGF_Simulated
Distance: 8.5225% / 0.08522501
45.6 Levant_Neolithic
29.0 EHG
23.8 Iran_Neolithic
1.6 WHG

Here the simulated coordinates work pretty badly... Iran_N 23.8.
gixajo
03-19-2023, 06:00 PM
Why are the distances for europeans so high? Isnt there also steppe and ANE as ancestral components?

Because I just used the sources (I found) proposed by Lazaridis, and because the most modern of these samples has 7K years and comes from Neolithic.
gixajo
03-19-2023, 06:05 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 8.6650% / 0.08665041
54.8 Levant_Neolithic
22.2 EHG
17.8 WHG
5.2 Iran_Neolithic

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 8.7409% / 0.08740875
58.8 Levant_Neolithic
23.4 EHG
13.6 WHG
4.2 Iran_Neolithic

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 9.3265% / 0.09326513
52.6 Levant_Neolithic
22.4 EHG
19.8 WHG
5.2 Iran_Neolithic
gixajo
03-19-2023, 06:09 PM
....

The "Indo-Aryan" connection!!!:eek:
ScandinavianCelt
03-19-2023, 06:13 PM
Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 8.7842% / 0.08784236

24.6 EHG:RUS_Samara_HG:I0124
23.8 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I0867
16.6 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1710
15.4 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0061 (8,873-8023 YBP)
12.2 WHG:I1875
7.4 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1954 (10,162 YBP)
5.0 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNC:I1699

Summary:

40.4% Levant
40% EHG
12.2% WHG
7.4% Iran
Monapps
03-19-2023, 06:40 PM
Steppe is much more recent, non-basal… it has these ancestral components (plus chg) inside of it.

Steppe is about half EHG half CHG which is similar to Iran_Neolithic, so why is everyone scoring several times more EHG than Iran?
RyoHazuki
03-19-2023, 06:53 PM
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 9.1451% / 0.09145132
45.0 Levant_Neolithic
33.6 EHG
16.0 WHG
5.4 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 9.9816% / 0.09981645
43.2 Levant_Neolithic
33.6 EHG
15.8 WHG
7.4 Iran_Neolithic
RyoHazuki
03-19-2023, 06:56 PM
Steppe is about half EHG half CHG which is similar to Iran_Neolithic, so why is everyone scoring several times more EHG than Iran?

Iranian Farmers are still pretty different from CHG, modern day Baluchis are mostly descended from these farmers and are a farcry from CHG rich Caucasians.
happycow
03-19-2023, 07:08 PM
Target: happycow_scaled
Distance: 3.3026% / 0.03302577
63.6 Levant_Neolithic
28.2 Iran_Neolithic
8.2 EHG
ScandinavianCelt
03-19-2023, 07:26 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 8.6650% / 0.08665041
54.8 Levant_Neolithic
22.2 EHG
17.8 WHG
5.2 Iran_Neolithic

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 8.7409% / 0.08740875
58.8 Levant_Neolithic
23.4 EHG
13.6 WHG
4.2 Iran_Neolithic

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 9.3265% / 0.09326513
52.6 Levant_Neolithic
22.4 EHG
19.8 WHG
5.2 Iran_Neolithic

Surprised you have so much EHG. How did they get to Iberia? Visigoths?
Damićo de Góis
03-19-2023, 09:03 PM
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 8.4423% / 0.08442283
51.8 Levant_Neolithic
21.6 EHG
16.2 WHG
10.4 Iran_Neolithic
Brįs Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-19-2023, 09:12 PM
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 8.4170% / 0.08416953
54.2 Levant_Neolithic
19.6 EHG
16.4 WHG
9.8 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 7.3293% / 0.07329252
54.2 Levant_Neolithic
23.4 EHG
15.6 WHG
6.8 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 7.4306% / 0.07430553
53.4 Levant_Neolithic
26.8 EHG
12.0 WHG
7.8 Iran_Neolithic
alexmegas777
03-19-2023, 09:21 PM
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 8.4522% / 0.08452216
55.0 Levant_Neolithic
31.6 EHG
7.0 Iran_Neolithic
6.4 WHG
gixajo
03-19-2023, 10:35 PM
Surprised you have so much EHG. How did they get to Iberia? Visigoths?

Just the lack of Yamnaya in the model.

If I add Yamnaya to the model, the EHG dissapears:


Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1255849,0.089028,0.0426986,0. 1153479,-0.0287232,0.0450564,0.0036033,-0.0025642,-0.0559032,-0.0728943,0.0018222,3.32e-05,-0.0026924,-0.0233041,0.0366141,0.0157633,-0.0012316,-0.0017879,-0.0038408,0.0137704,-0.0031749,0.0007557,0.0110649,0.0186102,-0.004537

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 7.1014% / 0.07101441
48.2 Levant_Neolithic
33.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.2 WHG

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 7.4463% / 0.07446272
52.2 Levant_Neolithic
32.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15.2 WHG

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 7.8526% / 0.07852618
45.8 Levant_Neolithic
34.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
20.2 WHG

And if we added Barcin_N the Levant_Neolithic would practically disappear or greatly diminish.

Edit:I“ve changed and adding text while I was re-checking the effect of every reference, I was not sure about if what I was saying was totally true, but it was so.:wink
Abdelnour
03-19-2023, 10:50 PM
Target: Scaled
Distance: 3.2729% / 0.03272900
63.0 Levant_Neolithic
29.2 Iran_Neolithic
7.8 EHG
gixajo
03-19-2023, 11:13 PM
Target: Scaled
Distance: 3.2729% / 0.03272900


Shared golden medal for you and Happycow.
Annihilus
03-19-2023, 11:13 PM
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 5.0414% / 0.05041406
46.8 Levant_Neolithic
39.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.8 Iran_Neolithic

with Yamnaya
gixajo
03-19-2023, 11:20 PM
...a

You are just after Happycow & Abdelnour in the ranking, but your distances are higher than theirs.

I mean without Yamnaya too.
Gallop
03-19-2023, 11:32 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 8.0504% / 0.08050355
53.8 Levant_Neolithic
21.2 EHG
17.8 WHG
7.2 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 8.0457% / 0.08045662
55.0 Levant_Neolithic
20.8 EHG
17.2 WHG
7.0 Iran_Neolithic
paradox
03-19-2023, 11:35 PM
Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 7.1153% / 0.07115332
55.0 Levant_Neolithic
26.2 EHG
15.0 Iran_Neolithic
3.8 WHG

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 8.3949% / 0.08394946
53.0 Levant_Neolithic
32.2 EHG
9.6 Iran_Neolithic
5.2 WHG
Kaspias
03-20-2023, 01:37 AM
Target: Kaspias
Distance: 7.0504% / 0.07050394
49.2 Levant_Neolithic
36.8 EHG
14.0 Iran_Neolithic
Aila
03-20-2023, 02:35 AM
Target: Aila_scaled
Distance: 7.9576% / 0.07957599
54.0 EHG
35.2 Levant_Neolithic
7.6 WHG
3.2 Iran_Neolithic

with Yamnaya:
Target: Aila_scaled
Distance: 6.6859% / 0.06685937
40.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
25.6 Levant_Neolithic
21.4 EHG
12.6 WHG
Mortimer
03-20-2023, 06:07 AM
Distance to: Svetozar_scaled
0.20847534 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1707
0.21523223 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1710
0.22347468 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:BAJ001
0.22706641 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I0867
0.22949319 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNC:I1699
0.24762323 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1954
0.25091845 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1945
0.25274503 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1947
0.25307903 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1290
0.25351149 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1949
0.27418391 EHG:RUS_Samara_HG:I0124
0.28418693 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:UzOO77
0.29247292 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0061
0.29409002 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0211
0.38655580 WHG:I1875
0.39341417 WHG:Rochedane
0.39398472 WHG:ITA_Villabruna:Villabruna
0.42483637 WHG:LUX_Loschbour:I0001


Target: Svetozar_scaled (I have a average distance for Europeans, even slightly less, that means Im truly Western Euroasian)
Distance: 7.0689% / 0.07068893
44.8 Levant_Neolithic
26.6 EHG
22.6 Iran_Neolithic
6.0 WHG
Pater Patota
03-20-2023, 06:52 AM
Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 6.2751% / 0.06275092
45.8 Levant_Neolithic
37.4 Iran_Neolithic
16.8 EHG

Yamnaya edition:

Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 4.7844% / 0.04784428
42.4 Levant_Neolithic
30.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
27.0 Iran_Neolithic
ScandinavianCelt
03-20-2023, 02:26 PM
Just the lack of Yamnaya in the model.

If I add Yamnaya to the model, the EHG dissapears:


Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1255849,0.089028,0.0426986,0. 1153479,-0.0287232,0.0450564,0.0036033,-0.0025642,-0.0559032,-0.0728943,0.0018222,3.32e-05,-0.0026924,-0.0233041,0.0366141,0.0157633,-0.0012316,-0.0017879,-0.0038408,0.0137704,-0.0031749,0.0007557,0.0110649,0.0186102,-0.004537

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 7.1014% / 0.07101441
48.2 Levant_Neolithic
33.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.2 WHG

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 7.4463% / 0.07446272
52.2 Levant_Neolithic
32.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15.2 WHG

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 7.8526% / 0.07852618
45.8 Levant_Neolithic
34.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
20.2 WHG

And if we added Barcin_N the Levant_Neolithic would practically disappear or greatly diminish.

Edit:I“ve changed and adding text while I was re-checking the effect of every reference, I was not sure about if what I was saying was totally true, but it was so.:wink

My EHG also vanishes if adding Yamnaya. At 0x ADC:


Target: Brad_scaled (with Yamnaya coord)
Distance: 5.8120% / 0.05811973

54.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
16.2 WHG:I1875
15.4 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNC:I1699
14.4 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I0867
Kiel
03-20-2023, 03:05 PM
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 8.3465% / 0.08346527
45.6 Levant_Neolithic
33.8 EHG
12.6 WHG
8.0 Iran_Neolithic
noricum
03-20-2023, 06:04 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 9.3455% / 0.09345512
44.8 Levant_Neolithic
38.0 EHG
11.6 WHG
5.6 Iran_Neolithic
Monapps
03-20-2023, 06:34 PM
Iranian Farmers are still pretty different from CHG, modern day Baluchis are mostly descended from these farmers and are a farcry from CHG rich Caucasians.

Lazaridis thinks Neolithic Iranians are one of the four ancestral components in Europeans so it must be a good proxy for the southern ancestry found in Steppe herders, CHG being a combination of Iranian farmers plus some of the other three populations.
PT Tagus
03-20-2023, 11:22 PM
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 7.6301% / 0.07630107
56.0 Levant_Neolithic
19.8 EHG
15.2 WHG
9.0 Iran_Neolithic
cass
03-21-2023, 12:09 AM
Target: sample
Distance: 8.6253% / 0.08625339
40.8 EHG
40.6 Levant_Neolithic
13.2 WHG
5.4 Iran_Neolithic
J. Ketch
03-21-2023, 02:54 AM
Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 10.2960% / 0.10296031
40.2 Levant_Neolithic
38.4 EHG
15.4 WHG
6.0 Iran_Neolithic
Pedro Ruben
03-24-2023, 09:25 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 7.5058% / 0.07505815
55.4 Levant_Neolithic
25.2 EHG
12.8 WHG
6.6 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 7.6521% / 0.07652145
56.4 Levant_Neolithic
21.6 EHG
15.4 WHG
6.6 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 8.2916% / 0.08291601
54.8 Levant_Neolithic
24.4 EHG
14.8 WHG
6.0 Iran_Neolithic
Julkka
02-19-2024, 06:33 PM
Target: Julkka_scaled
Distance: 7.9829% / 0.07982917
50.6 EHG
34.4 Levant_Neolithic
14.0 WHG
1.0 Iran_Neolithic
kingmob
02-19-2024, 06:37 PM
All hail the Pontic overlord, Dienekes, err sorry, I mean Laz the man with the master plan.


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ellines.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F04%2F21617819_102098876 70654776_7374900985816128389_n.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=30b736eca75eb32a6dc2c45d4414279783c829dba4cd27 72fc6f1b8e84ddf25b&ipo=images



https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164626453732786258/1209222433295441960/Lazaridismog.png?ex=65e62326&is=65d3ae26&hm=aac16c5fea10612c8e70b56ef95ac2dbd966947e5618c20 259fd80d1a3551d43&
Kess
02-19-2024, 06:49 PM
Target: kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 7.0477% / 0.07047665
43.6 Levant_Neolithic
34.6 Iran_Neolithic
21.8 EHG
Abdelnour
02-19-2024, 07:03 PM
Target: Scaled
Distance: 3.2729% / 0.03272931
63.0 Levant_Neolithic
29.0 Iran_Neolithic
8.0 EHG
gixajo
02-19-2024, 07:07 PM
All hail the Pontic overlord, Dienekes, err sorry, I mean Laz the man with the master plan.


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Who is the dyed guy that the bald guy is holding?:)
celticdragongod
02-19-2024, 07:09 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.23482140 EHG:RUS_Samara_HG:I0124
0.24748865 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:UzOO77
0.24845269 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0061
0.25487285 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0211
0.25786657 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1710
0.26367488 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1707
0.26684732 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:BAJ001
0.27194461 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNC:I1699
0.27366366 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I0867
0.32555047 WHG:I1875
0.32737621 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1954
0.33028567 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1945
0.33387001 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1947
0.33689136 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1290
0.33832268 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1949
0.33849884 WHG:ITA_Villabruna:Villabruna
0.34293073 WHG:Rochedane
0.37022965 WHG:LUX_Loschbour:I0001

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 10.0942% / 0.10094172
42.4 Levant_Neolithic
40.4 EHG
12.6 WHG
4.6 Iran_Neolithic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 10.0942% / 0.10094172
24.4 EHG:RUS_Samara_HG:I0124
23.4 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNC:I1699
19.0 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1710
16.0 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0061
12.6 WHG:I1875
4.6 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1945
Rędwald
02-19-2024, 07:11 PM
Target: Rędwald
Distance: 8.6204% / 0.08620396
43.2 Levant_Neolithic
37.6 EHG
13.6 WHG
5.6 Iran_Neolithic
Petalpusher
02-19-2024, 07:15 PM
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 10.5467% / 0.10546692
44.4 Levant_Neolithic
35.4 EHG
17.2 WHG
3.0 Iran_Neolithic
kingmob
02-19-2024, 07:15 PM
Who is the dyed guy that the bald guy is holding?:)


Dienekes, eerrr sorry Lazaridis I mean, headlocking davidski.
gixajo
02-19-2024, 07:28 PM
Dienekes, eerrr sorry Lazaridis I mean, headlocking davidski.

Has sense that a a guy with nordicist trends dyes his hair.
sacha
02-19-2024, 07:36 PM
Target: Sacha_scaled
Distance: 5.8601% / 0.05860112
69.4 Levant_Neolithic
26.0 Iran_Neolithic
4.6 EHG
Mixdguy17
02-19-2024, 07:57 PM
Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 5.2087% / 0.05208691
46.4 Levant_Neolithic
24.2 EHG
9.8 Yoruba
6.4 Peru_Antaura_Tiwanaku
6.2 WHG
3.2 Iran_Neolithic
1.8 Brazil_PrePottery_2200BP
1.4 Brazil_Laranjal_6600BP
0.6 Brazil_Botocudo.SG
Katarzyna
02-19-2024, 08:13 PM
Target: Katarzyna’s fbuddy _scaled (Lithuanian)
Distance: 10.1983% / 0.10198284
46.6 EHG
36.6 Levant_Neolithic
12.8 WHG
4.0 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 8.6960% / 0.08695962
46.0 EHG
38.4 Levant_Neolithic
12.4 WHG
3.2 Iran_Neolithic
djipon
02-20-2024, 10:00 AM
Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 8.0910% / 0.08091005
53.6 Levant_Neolithic
32.6 EHG
10.0 Iran_Neolithic
3.8 WHG
mashail
02-20-2024, 11:30 AM
Distance: 3.6822% / 0.03682216
73.2 Levant_Neolithic
20.0 Iran_Neolithic
6.8 EHG
Shardana
05-18-2025, 04:00 PM
Target: Shardana_G25_Scaled
Distance: 10.1439% / 0.10143864
69.0 Levant_Neolithic
23.8 WHG
4.0 EHG
3.2 Iran_Neolithic
tk'es
05-18-2025, 04:46 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 9.6487% / 0.09648683
39.0 Levant_Neolithic
35.6 Iran_Neolithic
25.4 EHG


with north caucasus


Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 7.1057% / 0.07105708
51.8 Ciscaucasia
32.8 Levant_Neolithic
15.4 Iran_Neolithic



with caucasus


Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 5.0959% / 0.05095875
79.0 Caucasus
16.8 EHG
4.2 Levant_Neolithic



with caucasus & north caucasus


Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 4.9494% / 0.04949433
62.0 Caucasus
23.4 Ciscaucasia
9.0 Levant_Neolithic
5.6 EHG
Dušan
05-18-2025, 07:04 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 9.5380% / 0.09537956
50.0 Levant_Neolithic
35.0 EHG
8.8 WHG
6.2 Iran_Neolithic
Gannicus
05-18-2025, 07:09 PM
Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0946% / 0.09459889
44.8 Levant_Neolithic
34.3 EHG
14.4 WHG
6.5 Iran_Neolithic
Pohjanpoika
05-18-2025, 11:11 PM
Target: Pohjanpoika_scaled
Distance: 7.6772% / 0.07677174
49.6 EHG
33.8 Levant_Neolithic
13.6 WHG
3.0 Iran_Neolithic

Target: Pohjanpoika_father_scaled
Distance: 7.8652% / 0.07865183
49.6 EHG
36.2 Levant_Neolithic
14.2 WHG
unmoggable
05-25-2025, 01:33 AM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 9.0037% / 0.09003660
42.4 Levant_Neolithic
32.4 EHG
15.4 WHG
9.8 Iran_Neolithic

0.24088570 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1710
0.24485216 EHG:RUS_Samara_HG:I0124
0.24842229 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I1707
0.25133551 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:BAJ001
0.25618962 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNC:I1699
0.25670814 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:UzOO77
0.25702372 Levant_Neolithic:Levant_PPNB:I0867
0.25998431 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0061
0.26469173 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0211
0.31269522 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1954
0.31552972 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1945
0.31761179 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1947
0.31965395 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1290
0.32191099 Iran_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1949
0.32864631 WHG:I1875
0.33955890 WHG:ITA_Villabruna:Villabruna
0.34274535 WHG:Rochedane
0.37089660 WHG:LUX_Loschbour:I0001
chinshen
05-25-2025, 05:50 AM
Without Yamnaya
140146

With Yamnaya

140147