View Full Version : Eastern European +POL+FIN+BALTICS+RUSSIA; G25 test -- zero NW European samples
ScandinavianCelt
03-28-2023, 04:29 PM
Try this if you are a W/NW European to see potentially which components you share most genetic affinity with from the east.
My first sample are coordinates taken from the exploreyourdna.com website for "modern averaged individuals" from the following places:
Belarus
Bulgaria
Moldova
Poland
Romania
Russia
Volga
Slovakia
Ukraine
Finland
Saami
Siberia: W+E
Arctic Chukchi
Baltics: LITH, LAT, EST
Mongolia: Mongolian, Buryat, + Oroqen
These are my results:
Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 4.2843% / 0.04284335
39.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
39.0 Balkan:Romanian
21.4 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
I get the same results with ADC .25x, .5x, 1x.
Use SCALED G25 coords as your target. Post results please. Thanks.
I'm trying a pastebin for first time:
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Dušan
03-28-2023, 04:52 PM
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.2807% / 0.01280686
49.2 Balkan:Romanian
26.6 East_Europe:Russian_West
17.8 Balkan:Bulgarian
4.8 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
1.6 Volga_Ural:Mari
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.2923% / 0.01292290 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.4 Balkan:Romanian
32.2 East_Europe:Russian_West
1.4 Volga_Ural:Mari
Distance to: Dušan_g25
0.02928790 Balkan:Romanian
0.03660574 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.03932634 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.04183760 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.05058253 Central_Europe: Polish
0.05257529 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.05457144 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.06713495 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.07741170 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.08525664 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
Figaro
03-28-2023, 05:27 PM
Parents+wife+friend results (for a variety)...my mother is over half eastern European, but the other three have little to none (my father has a little Wendish admixture, but is otherwise NW Euro). My wife is Latina, friend is Western Euro descent.
Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 3.5650% / 0.03564970
47.0 Balkan
37.4 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
15.6 Carpathian_Basin
Distance to: CordedFather_scaled
0.04632630 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.04785746 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.05073902 Central_Europe:Polish
0.05928640 Balkan:Romanian
0.06036255 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.06323381 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.06798985 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.06866421 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.06940271 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.07833405 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.07934686 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.08274825 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.08275187 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.08791181 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.09260635 Baltic_States:Latvian
Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 1.6046% / 0.01604603
29.2 Balkan
27.2 Central_Europe
23.0 Carpathian_Basin
20.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
Distance to: CordedMother_scaled
0.02417770 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.02526803 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.02791466 Central_Europe:Polish
0.03651318 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.03660109 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.04595511 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.05590491 Balkan:Romanian
0.05843961 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.05947019 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.06191529 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.06295198 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.06374259 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.06577107 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.06969229 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.07261725 Baltic_States:Latvian
Target: CordedWife_scaled
Distance: 13.7283% / 0.13728256
70.2 Balkan
29.8 Arctic
Distance to: CordedWife_scaled
0.17088921 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.19706719 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.19813549 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.19924994 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.20745590 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.20941848 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.21350873 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.21666950 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.21719120 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.21823626 Balkan:Romanian
0.21885249 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.22029169 Volga_Ural:Mari
0.22514759 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.22727717 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.22904086 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
Target: CordedFriend_scaled
Distance: 5.0810% / 0.05080955
61.4 Balkan
35.4 Carpathian_Basin
3.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
Distance to: CordedFriend_scaled
0.05648732 Balkan:Romanian
0.06295100 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.06472513 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.07327473 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.07648840 Central_Europe:Polish
0.08660966 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.08756062 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.09602802 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.09834952 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.10503945 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.10544764 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.10615694 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.10997524 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.11266197 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.11882519 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
Target: cass
Distance: 1.5466% / 0.01546637
53.6 Central_Europe
22.0 Carpathian_Basin
13.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
11.2 Balkan
Lemminkäinen
03-28-2023, 05:55 PM
Distance to: MauriJussi1m_scaled
0.02296230 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.02423292 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.03490937 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.03564881 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.03651008 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.03704693 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.04318364 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.04350126 Central_Europe:Polish
0.04532423 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.04629233 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.04939714 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.05111364 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.05224658 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.05387600 Baltic_States:Latvian
0.09873992 Balkan:Romanian
0.10742068 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.14853898 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.14908903 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.14927000 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.20180480 Volga_Ural:Mari
0.22574106 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.32876965 West_Siberia:Khanty
0.33476699 West_Siberia:Ket
0.41019068 West_Siberia:Selkup
0.41984949 West_Siberia:Altaian
Typically I get 0.005-0.007 distances when West Euros are included.
Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 1.4248% / 0.01424779
77.0 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
20.6 Carpathian_Basin
1.4 Baltic_States
1.0 Volga_Ural
ScandinavianCelt
03-28-2023, 05:57 PM
Distance to: MauriJussi1m_scaled
0.02296230 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.02423292 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.03490937 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.03564881 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.03651008 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.03704693 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.04318364 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.04350126 Central_Europe:Polish
0.04532423 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.04629233 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.04939714 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.05111364 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.05224658 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.05387600 Baltic_States:Latvian
0.09873992 Balkan:Romanian
0.10742068 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.14853898 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.14908903 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.14927000 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.20180480 Volga_Ural:Mari
0.22574106 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.32876965 West_Siberia:Khanty
0.33476699 West_Siberia:Ket
0.41019068 West_Siberia:Selkup
0.41984949 West_Siberia:Altaian
Typically I get 0.005-0.007 distances when West Euros are included.
Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 1.4248% / 0.01424779
77.0 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
20.6 Carpathian_Basin
1.4 Baltic_States
1.0 Volga_Ural
Does it look accurate %-wise though? Forget distance for now.
Lemminkäinen
03-28-2023, 06:17 PM
Does it look accurate %-wise though? Forget distance for now.
It look reasonable. As our Russian colleagues have kindly informed us, the Ingrians were South Finns moved to the St. Petersburg region during the Swedish-Russian wars. Obviously this happened before Peter the Great and before St. Petersburg was founded. They are recently died out. They are different people than Inkeriläiset in Finnish who lived a half way to Moscow. Ingrians in Finnish inkerikot. Your Finns are probably Southwest Finns. The rest looks possible
ScandinavianCelt
03-28-2023, 06:22 PM
It look reasonable. As our Russian colleagues have kindly informed us, the Ingrians were South Finns moved to the St. Petersburg region during the Swedish-Russian wars. Obviously this happened before Peter the Great and before St. Petersburg was founded. They are recently died out. They are different people than Inkeriläiset in Finnish who lived a half way to Moscow. Ingrians in Finnish inkerikot. Your Finns are probably Southwest Finns. The rest looks possible
You guys can try it without Poland and Finland in there and see what you get
ScandinavianCelt
03-28-2023, 06:43 PM
It look reasonable. As our Russian colleagues have kindly informed us, the Ingrians were South Finns moved to the St. Petersburg region during the Swedish-Russian wars. Obviously this happened before Peter the Great and before St. Petersburg was founded. They are recently died out. They are different people than Inkeriläiset in Finnish who lived a half way to Moscow. Ingrians in Finnish inkerikot. Your Finns are probably Southwest Finns. The rest looks possible
If I take off Poland and Finland this is what I get
Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 4.7735% / 0.04773524 | ADC: 0.25x RC
67.2 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
27.2 Balkan:Romanian
5.6 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
JerryS.
03-28-2023, 06:46 PM
Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 4.7674% / 0.04767371
47.2 Balkan:Romanian
35.2 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
17.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
JerryS.
03-28-2023, 06:46 PM
Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 4.7674% / 0.04767371
47.2 Balkan:Romanian
35.2 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
17.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
Lemminkäinen
03-28-2023, 06:48 PM
Without Poles and Finns. Without Finns I get 11% Saami, which was included to the Finnish proportion. Saamis have 25%, max. 30% Siberian, the rest Finnish and other Fennoscandinavian genes.
Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 2.1555% / 0.02155452
56.2 Baltic_States
27.2 Carpathian_Basin
11.0 Sápmi_Lapland
3.6 Volga_Ural
2.0 Balkan
ScandinavianCelt
03-28-2023, 06:54 PM
Without Poles and Finns. Without Finns I get 11% Saami, which was included to the Finnish proportion. Saamis have 25%, nax. 39% Siberian, the rest Finnish and other Fennoscandinavian genes.
Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 2.1555% / 0.02155452
56.2 Baltic_States
27.2 Carpathian_Basin
11.0 Sápmi_Lapland
3.6 Volga_Ural
2.0 Balkan
If I take off the Polish element only it doesn't change my initial results that I posted at all. I don't know how to calculate what each of us are outside of our dominant areas in a more refined analyses but I'm trying
Without the Polish these are my genetic distances:
Distance to: Brad_scaled
0.05081537 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.05899359 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.06801503 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.06809580 Balkan:Romanian
0.06831720 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.06905159 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.07486668 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.07636265 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.07655138 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.08036937 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.08214856 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.08640517 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.08765908 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.09024011 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.09600259 Baltic_States:Latvian
0.17033380 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.18042981 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.18622237 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.23200180 Volga_Ural:Mari
0.25054437 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.35678027 West_Siberia:Khanty
0.36278713 West_Siberia:Ket
0.43634677 West_Siberia:Selkup
0.44303527 West_Siberia:Altaian
0.44993277 West_Siberia:Nenets
Impaler
03-28-2023, 06:54 PM
Target: Impaler
Distance: 3.3482% / 0.03348159
94.6 Balkan:Bulgarian
5.4 West_Siberia:Altaian
Adding Orcadian makes me Eastern European/Orcadian
Finland_Karelia_Ingria changes to Baltic :thumb001:
Balkan disappears :thumb001:
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8884% / 0.00888358
43.4 East_Europe
30.4 Orcadian
14.2 Baltic_States
12.0 Carpathian_Basin
adding German makes me German/Eastern European
Finland_Karelia_Ingria changes to bigger Baltic
Balkan and Carpathian disappears :thumb001:
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8506% / 0.00850627
52.4 German
25.8 Baltic_States
21.6 East_Europe
0.2 Volga_Ural
all without removing CE
adding Goth/Wieklice gives a stable result
Target: cass
Distance: 0.9087% / 0.00908656
72.8 East_Europe
27.0 Germanic*(AD*100–630)
0.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
Germanic*(AD*100–630):Goth:POL_Weklice:R10633__AD_ 85__Coverage_64.28%,0.136588,0.129988,0.07731,0.07 0737,0.050471,0.024821,0.00423,0.011769,0.01309,-0.00492,-0.005034,0.005995,-0.009663,-0.010872,0.019272,0.025192,0.010822,-0.004054,-0.001508,0.009755,0.019341,0.001113,0.002095,0.002 289,0.002036
original
Target: cass
Distance: 1.5466% / 0.01546637
53.6 Central_Europe
22.0 Carpathian_Basin
13.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
11.2 Balkan
alexmegas777
03-28-2023, 09:11 PM
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.3856% / 0.02385570
69.6 Balkan:Romanian
30.4 Balkan:Bulgarian
gixajo
03-28-2023, 11:19 PM
Just for fun.
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 6.1873% / 0.06187342
100.0 Balkan
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 6.5132% / 0.06513177
100.0 Balkan
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 6.7444% / 0.06744443
91.8 Balkan
8.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
RyoHazuki
03-29-2023, 01:06 AM
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 4.7043% / 0.04704334
54.0 Balkan:Romanian
30.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
15.8 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 5.5457% / 0.05545742
53.2 Balkan:Romanian
46.8 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
oszkar07
03-29-2023, 01:56 PM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 3.0224% / 0.03022396
52.2 Balkan
39.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
8.2 Central_Europe
MandM
03-29-2023, 08:16 PM
Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.2408% / 0.02240808 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.2 Balkan:Romanian
37.8 Balkan:Bulgarian
Vitez
03-29-2023, 09:06 PM
Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.5629% / 0.01562866
65.6 Balkan
26.2 East_Europe
5.4 Central_Europe
2.4 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
0.4 Carpathian_Basin
Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.5898% / 0.01589819 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.4 Balkan
37.6 East_Europe
8.0 Carpathian_Basin
alnortedelsur
03-30-2023, 06:51 PM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.2513% / 0.05251280
88.0 Balkan
6.4 SSA
5.6 Yukpa
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.2513% / 0.05251280 | ADC: 0.25x RC
88.0 Balkan
6.4 SSA
5.6 Yukpa
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.2513% / 0.05251280 | ADC: 0.5x RC
88.0 Balkan
6.4 SSA
5.6 Yukpa
Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08516848 Balkan:Romanian
0.08585198 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.11950461 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.12066173 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.12779922 Central_Europe:Polish
0.13034384 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.13421318 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.13679993 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.13801586 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.14230616 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.14467324 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.14626570 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.15338365 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.15540437 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.16088704 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.16305403 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.16856359 Baltic_States:Latvian
0.19382948 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.21124080 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.23914249 Volga_Ural:Mari
0.24052974 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.35132851 West_Siberia:Khanty
0.35504200 West_Siberia:Ket
0.41783883 West_Siberia:Altaian
0.42412328 West_Siberia:Selkup
0.43711856 West_Siberia:Nenets
0.45430556 Mongolia:Mongolian
0.46342333 Mongolia:Buryat
0.53899534 Arctic:Chukchi
0.54310812 East_Siberia:Koryak
0.54342742 East_Siberia:Sakha
0.56276663 East_Siberia:Yukagir_Tundra
0.56383679 Mongolia:Oroqen
0.59870126 East_Siberia:Even
0.64661427 Yukpa
0.71075688 SSA:West_African_Niger-Congo:Igbo
ScandinavianCelt
04-07-2023, 02:01 AM
Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.2408% / 0.02240808 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.2 Balkan:Romanian
37.8 Balkan:Bulgarian
Do you know any Romanian or Moldovan GEDmatch kit #, preferably of living people? I'd like to see if I match any living people from these areas. Thanks if you do!
Eurafricanid
04-07-2023, 03:00 AM
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 2.9203% / 0.02920342
50.0 Balkan
47.8 Sub-Saharan_Africa
2.2 Amerindian
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 2.9203% / 0.02920342
40.8 Balkan:Bulgarian
23.4 Sub-Saharan_Africa:Ivory_Coast_&_Ghana
11.4 Sub-Saharan_Africa:Bantu:Cameroon_Kongo_&_Western_Bantu_Peoples:North
9.2 Balkan:Romanian
8.2 Sub-Saharan_Africa:Senegal
4.0 Sub-Saharan_Africa:Western_Bantu_Peoples:South
2.2 Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-Chile
0.8 Sub-Saharan_Africa:Pygmy:Koisan_Aka_&_Mbuti_Peoples:Aka/Mbuti
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noricum
04-10-2023, 07:10 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.6498% / 0.02649758 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.0 East_Europe
34.4 Balkan
12.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.03212475 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.04031535 Central_Europe:Polish
0.04202589 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.04536497 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.05035270 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.05174057 Balkan:Romanian
0.05579996 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.06059907 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.06985619 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.07262644 altic_States:Lithuanian
0.07398031 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.07902738 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.08178428 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.08460035 Baltic_States:Latvian
0.08743808 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.09507019 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.17584635 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.18767532 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.20119762 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.24053763 Volga_Ural:Mari
0.26146790 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.36975399 West_Siberia:Khanty
0.37438640 West_Siberia:Ket
0.44901907 West_Siberia:Selkup
0.45312441 West_Siberia:Altaian
Boudin
04-10-2023, 10:57 PM
Target: Boudin
Distance: 5.1147% / 0.05114653
76.4 Balkan
20.8 Carpathian_Basin
2.8 Sápmi_Lapland
If I keep clicking it can't decide for the last one between Sápmi_Lapland, Mongolia, Arctic, West Siberia, and Volga_Ural.
Beowulf
04-10-2023, 11:09 PM
for my Grandmother:
Target: Abuela
Distance: 4.3943% / 0.04394288
98.0 Balkan
1.8 Mongolia
0.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
with Iberian Samples for her
Target: Abuela
Distance: 1.7682% / 0.01768226 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.0 Iberian_Penninsula
13.8 Volga_Ural
11.8 Balkan
0.4 Sápmi_Lapland
Gallop
04-10-2023, 11:18 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 6.5728% / 0.06572764
100.0 Balkan:Romanian
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 6.2322% / 0.06232197
100.0 Balkan:Romanian
:)
bained
04-10-2023, 11:44 PM
Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 1.6723% / 0.01672264
73.6 Balkan:Romanian
26.4 Balkan:Bulgarian
Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 1.6723% / 0.01672264
100.0 Balkan
ScandinavianCelt
04-11-2023, 12:58 AM
Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 1.6723% / 0.01672264
73.6 Balkan:Romanian
26.4 Balkan:Bulgarian
Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 1.6723% / 0.01672264
100.0 Balkan
Use the allecator and get your Tolan K20 bronze age coordinates and see what you get and run it again on this test and then post those results I wonder if they're similar? I find that those coordinates are closest to my official G25 coordinates when you plot them at least for me and I'm from primarily northern Europe I don't know what you would get but you could try and see if it plots you better.
Grace O'Malley
04-11-2023, 02:30 AM
Distances are so high that it is obviously not a good fit.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 5.5077% / 0.05507704
41.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
29.8 Balkan:Romanian
29.0 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
Gergő Marosvári
04-11-2023, 10:09 AM
Try this if you are a W/NW European to see potentially which components you share most genetic affinity with from the east.
My first sample are coordinates taken from the exploreyourdna.com website for "modern averaged individuals" from the following places:
Belarus
Bulgaria
Moldova
Poland
Romania
Russia
Volga
Slovakia
Ukraine
Finland
Saami
Siberia: W+E
Arctic Chukchi
Baltics: LITH, LAT, EST
Mongolia: Mongolian, Buryat, + Oroqen
These are my results:
Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 4.2843% / 0.04284335
39.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
39.0 Balkan:Romanian
21.4 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
I get the same results with ADC .25x, .5x, 1x.
Use SCALED G25 coords as your target. Post results please. Thanks.
I'm trying a pastebin for first time:
<script src="https://pastebin.com/embed_js/ticD315y"></script>
I think this calculator of yours was inspired by my Globe 58 calculator, right? :D
Gergő Marosvári
04-11-2023, 10:11 AM
Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.5568% / 0.01556804
57.6 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
32.0 Balkan:Bulgarian
5.6 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
4.0 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.8 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
meliton
04-12-2023, 09:03 AM
Target: Meliton_scaled
Distance: 2.7164% / 0.02716441
60.4 Balkan:Romanian
19.0 Central_Europe:Polish
14.0 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
4.8 Volga_Ural:Tatar
1.8 Mongolia:Mongolian
ScandinavianCelt
04-12-2023, 05:51 PM
Distances are so high that it is obviously not a good fit.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 5.5077% / 0.05507704
41.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
29.8 Balkan:Romanian
29.0 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
I removed all the "good fit" for us with NW/N/NC Euro genes. These are more distant so the percentages are not reflective of a good fit, but what shows up for populations is what I was aiming for.
PierreUno
04-12-2023, 06:32 PM
Target:: Pierre aka Kevin
Distance: 5.6646% / 0.05664643
56.2 Carpathian_Basin
26.2 Balkan
17.0 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
0.6 Sápmi_Lapland
Distance to: Pierre aka Kevin
0.05883931 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.07138542 Central_Europe: Polish
0.07422819 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.07635136 Balkan:Romanian
0.08249714 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.08282192 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
The opposite tool is Davidski's Celtic vs Germanic tool :
https://i.postimg.cc/zXd7RKVZ/Vahaduo-Celto-Germanic-PCA.png
https://i.postimg.cc/sgj2bGcX/Vahaduo-Celto-Germanic-PCA-Views.png
https://youtu.be/AEFb7iXtgEs
https://i.postimg.cc/15rN2Qp9/waterloo.webp
bained
05-07-2023, 04:51 PM
Use the allecator and get your Tolan K20 bronze age coordinates and see what you get and run it again on this test and then post those results I wonder if they're similar? I find that those coordinates are closest to my official G25 coordinates when you plot them at least for me and I'm from primarily northern Europe I don't know what you would get but you could try and see if it plots you better.
Yeah, idk how to do that.
ScandinavianCelt
05-07-2023, 07:37 PM
Yeah, idk how to do that.
Put your K20 results in the top section on link below, then click the K20 button that will give you the coordinates you need.
https://allelocator.ovh/simulatedg25.html
LaSentinelle
05-07-2023, 07:43 PM
I wonder if some Calculators/DNA testing services really can't tell the difference between Russians and Poles? Or perhaps there's something my parent's never told me about...
Target: Dmitry_scaled
Distance: 1.6899% / 0.01689915 | ADC: 1x RC
44.0 Central_Europe
39.4 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
16.6 East_Europe
Target: Dmitry_scaled
Distance: 1.4135% / 0.01413520
39.4 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
28.8 Central_Europe
14.0 East_Europe
11.4 Balkan
4.4 Baltic_States
1.8 Volga_Ural
0.2 West_Siberia
Target: Dmitry_scaled
Distance: 1.4176% / 0.01417605 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.4 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
27.0 Central_Europe
17.4 East_Europe
10.2 Balkan
2.0 Volga_Ural
Distance to: Dmitry_scaled
0.02768547 Central_Europe:Polish
0.02777030 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.03004850 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.03215118 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.03369604 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.03590654 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.03599407 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.03719964 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.03780092 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.03825155 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.04350440 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.04623335 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.05000181 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.05283631 Baltic_States:Latvian
0.08094820 Balkan:Romanian
0.08977417 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.15428951 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.15498190 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.16220635 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.20835573 Volga_Ural:Mari
0.23412336 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.33747240 West_Siberia:Khanty
0.34282709 West_Siberia:Ket
0.41866187 West_Siberia:Selkup
0.42890772 West_Siberia:Altaian
bained
05-07-2023, 10:25 PM
Put your K20 results in the top section on link below, then click the K20 button that will give you the coordinates you need.
https://allelocator.ovh/simulatedg25.html
Target: BaiNedK20
Distance: 0.0256% / 0.02560154
100.0 Balkan:Romanian
Target: BaiNedK20
Distance: 0.0256% / 0.02560154
100.0 Balkan
ScandinavianCelt
05-08-2023, 01:54 AM
I think this calculator of yours was inspired by my Globe 58 calculator, right? :D
Not exactly. I needed some good samples NOT NW or NC Euro. I like those samples, didn't know you made em. Thnx
J. Ketch
05-08-2023, 02:00 AM
Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 5.5012% / 0.05501187
53.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
43.0 Balkan:Romanian
3.4 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
Distance to: Creoda_scaled
0.06479414 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.06642647 Central_Europe:Polish
0.06768746 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.07226482 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.07625732 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.07984153 Balkan:Romanian
0.07999857 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.08191927 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.08643780 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.08740283 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.08869899 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.09214411 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.09543568 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.09873393 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.10072660 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.10225763 Baltic_States:Latvian
0.18278781 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.19109118 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.19802004 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.24181790 Volga_Ural:Mari
ScandinavianCelt
05-08-2023, 11:29 AM
@Creoda
I'm just curious but I'm guessing this goes to Slovakian if you go 2x ADC?
ScandinavianCelt
05-08-2023, 11:30 AM
Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 5.5012% / 0.05501187
53.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
43.0 Balkan:Romanian
3.4 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
Distance to: Creoda_scaled
0.06479414 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.06642647 Central_Europe:Polish
0.06768746 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.07226482 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.07625732 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.07984153 Balkan:Romanian
0.07999857 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.08191927 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.08643780 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.08740283 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.08869899 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.09214411 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.09543568 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.09873393 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.10072660 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.10225763 Baltic_States:Latvian
0.18278781 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.19109118 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.19802004 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.24181790 Volga_Ural:Mari
See above
J. Ketch
05-09-2023, 05:02 AM
@Creoda
I'm just curious but I'm guessing this goes to Slovakian if you go 2x ADC?
Yes.
I think if Czech was involved I would get mostly that.
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 3.0879% / 0.03087900
64.8 Balkan
23.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
12.0 Carpathian_Basin
Dušan
06-21-2023, 03:24 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.3015% / 0.02301520
51.8 Balkan:Bulgarian
48.2 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
Distance to: Dušan_scaled
0.03546582 Balkan:Romanian
0.04064011 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.04268480 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.05456738 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.05686265 Central_Europe: Polish
0.05727713 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.05900717 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.07052296 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.08562788 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.08911336 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
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