My Brother's MyHeritage Results

[Occiput in Starlight]

Serious post from me.

Those members who recall what I (Dna8) look like might be interested in the below. I felt kind of let down when my brother shared the result with me. I already knew I was a Balkaner.

EDIT: eurogenes and dodecad available later in thread

[Occiput in Starlight]

He did the test sometime after I left TA on my break. Probably more than a year ago or something.

[HelloGuys]

Dna8 was my hero who died in battle :pout:

[Occiput in Starlight]

Dna8 was my hero who died in battle :pout:

I was waiting to run into you again.

Greetings.

[Grace O'Malley]

He did the test sometime after I left TA on my break. Probably more than a year ago or something.

Welcome back. I saw a post of yours a few days ago and you mentioned that you live in NZ and I did actually think you sounded like DNA8. It is great to know you are well.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Welcome back. I saw a post of yours a few days ago and you mentioned that you live in NZ and I did actually think you sounded like DNA8. It is great to know you are well.

That is very kind of you to write, Grace O'Malley.

Cheers,

OiS (Dna8)

[Impaler]

That is very kind of you to write, Grace O'Malley.

Cheers,

OiS (Dna8)

Welcome back, bro!

[Occiput in Starlight]

Welcome back, bro!

Multumesc amice. Îmi amintesc de tine cu drag.

[Dušan]

Hi, congratulations! Честитам земљаче :)

Put raw data in Gedmatch, so you can see Eurogenes K13 and K36, and Dodecad K12b results.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Hi, congratulations! Честитам земљаче :)

Put raw data in Gedmatch, so you can see Eurogenes K13 and K36, and Dodecad K12b results.

Hvala Dusane:high5

The results only consisted of that ancestry estimate. No haplo given and no raw data (like the type you guys use on calculators). I think one has to pay extra for that?

But we are emailed dna matches. My bro gave me access to his account.

Or maybe I just have no idea how to do it. I looked everywhere on the account but couldn't find anything like raw data, co-ordinates, haplo and the sort.

I think the North and West Euro is from an Italian man who married into my father's Dalmatia located maternal side.

EDIT: Yep, my bro didn't get the premium package. Cheap bastard.

[MandM]

You have to press on DNA then go to manage dna kits, from there tou will se 3 dots you press them and klick on download kit

[Grace O'Malley]

Hvala Dusane:high5

The results only consisted of that ancestry estimate. No haplo given and no raw data (like the type you guys use on calculators). I think one has to pay extra for that?

But we are emailed dna matches. My bro gave me access to his account.

Or maybe I just have no idea how to do it. I looked everywhere on the account but couldn't find anything like raw data, co-ordinates, haplo and the sort.

I think the North and West Euro is from an Italian man who married into my father's Dalmatia located maternal side.

He would have raw dna if he took a test at MyHeritage. Their raw dna is actually very good. It is their estimates that are a bit hit and miss. They don't give haplos. Are you the account holder? If you are you go to DNA at the top and then click on DNA Tools and click on your kit and and there is a Download option. If the dna was uploaded from another site then of course you won't be able to download from MyHeritage but then you would have had to upload your raw dna from another dna company so there would be raw dna somewhere if he had dna results. :) I hope this helps.

[Occiput in Starlight]

You have to press on DNA then go to manage dna kits, from there tou will se 3 dots you press them and klock om download kit

Milenko, my friend, this changes everything.

Thank you very much. I feel pretty stupid.

I just called my brother - sounded like he was out somewhere - and asked him to send me the raw data. Because the account is in his name, when I followed your instructions he was emailed. He said the email instructions advised that the raw data must be downloaded on a pc. He promised to forward the data to me tomorrow. Hopefully I can look at it - I only have a mobile phone.

Would this raw data contain our haplos?

[Beowulf]

Milenko, my friend, this changes everything.

Thank you very much. I feel pretty stupid.

I just called my brother - sounded like he was out somewhere - and asked him to send me the raw data. Because the account is in his name, when I followed your instructions he was emailed. He said the email instructions advised that the raw data must be downloaded on a pc. He promised to forward the data to me tomorrow. Hopefully I can look at it - I only have a mobile phone.

Would this raw data contain our haplos?

Yes when you get the raw data upload it to Cladefinder you can get your Y-DNA there

[Occiput in Starlight]

He would have raw dna if he took a test at MyHeritage. Their raw dna is actually very good. It is their estimates that are a bit hit and miss. They don't give haplos. Are you the account holder? If you are you go to DNA at the top and then click on DNA Tools and click on your kit and and there is a Download option. If the dna was uploaded from another site then of course you won't be able to download from MyHeritage but then you would have had to upload your raw dna from another dna company so there would be raw dna somewhere if he had dna results. :) I hope this helps.

Thank you very much, Grace.

The raw data email instruction is being sent to my brother's email. My bro gave me his account details. If I change the acc. email to my email address, would that maybe be a solution for me? I still dont know what he means by needing a PC to download the data.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Yes when you get the raw data upload it to Cladefinder you can get your Y-DNA there

Cheers, mate. Grace advises MyHeritage doesn't give haplos, but just the other raw data would be awesome. I could do the fun stuff you guys do with your calc. etc.

[Grace O'Malley]

Thank you very much, Grace.

The raw data email instruction is being sent to my brother's email. My bro gave me his account details. If I change the acc. email to my email address, would that maybe be a solution for me? I still dont know what he means by needing a PC to download the data.

Yes change it to your email address as they will send everything there. You are welcome. Glad to help.

[Beowulf]

Cheers, mate. Grace advises MyHeritage doesn't give haplos, but just the other raw data would be awesome. I could do the fun stuff you guys do with your calc. etc.

Yes, My Heritage don't give Haplogroup but the raw data is decent and with that at least you can know your haplogroup, you should also try to upload it to gedmatch and simulate your G25 there, it's nice so you can try all the G25 calculators (not the Unscaled version bcs it can't be simulated as i know)

[Grace O'Malley]

Cheers, mate. Grace advises MyHeritage doesn't give haplos, but just the other raw data would be awesome. I could do the fun stuff you guys do with your calc. etc.

Yes you can get haplos from the raw dna so do what VikingMallorca advises. I just meant MyHeritage won't give you the haplos but you can upload on other sites. Cheers.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Hi, congratulations! Честитам земљаче :)

Put raw data in Gedmatch, so you can see Eurogenes K13 and K36, and Dodecad K12b results.


You have to press on DNA then go to manage dna kits, from there tou will se 3 dots you press them and klick on download kit


Yes when you get the raw data upload it to Cladefinder you can get your Y-DNA there


Yes change it to your email address as they will send everything there. You are welcome. Glad to help.


Yes, My Heritage don't give Haplogroup but the raw data is decent and with that at least you can know your haplogroup, you should also try to upload it to gedmatch and simulate your G25 there, it's nice so you can try all the G25 calculators (not the Unscaled version bcs it can't be simulated as i know)


Yes you can get haplos from the raw dna so do what VikingMallorca advises. I just meant MyHeritage won't give you the haplos but you can upload on other sites. Cheers.

It worked. I have the file downloaded and the data before me.

Fucking hell. I would kiss you all if we were in the same room right now. I really would.

[Occiput in Starlight]

All this time my brother and I had the data just waiting there for us.. what dummies!

I cannot believe he didn't know. He paid for it!

[Occiput in Starlight]

Hi, congratulations! Честитам земљаче :)

Put raw data in Gedmatch, so you can see Eurogenes K13 and K36, and Dodecad K12b results.

When you have some spare moments, could you tell me how to do as you advise in the post I'm quoting?

I don't know anything about this.

[Occiput in Starlight]

@ Dusan

I'll try read the faqs on gedmatch first before bothering you.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Do I need to edit anything on the raw data file before I upload it, or is it completely anonymous already?

[Occiput in Starlight]

Sorry for the flurry of posts. I'm a little excited.

[Grace O'Malley]

@ Dusan

I'll try read the faqs on gedmatch first before bothering you.

Make an account on Gedmatch and then on the right side of the dashboard you will see upload your dna. You can't miss it.

https://i.imgur.com/Mz9aMEU.png

[Occiput in Starlight]

Make an account on Gedmatch and then on the right side of the dashboard you will see upload your dna. You can't miss it.

https://i.imgur.com/Mz9aMEU.png

I am on the cusp of uploading. Do I need to edit my raw data file in any way before uploading? Or does the file not contain any identitying info anyway?

"Identifying" as in my bro's name.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Yes, My Heritage don't give Haplogroup but the raw data is decent and with that at least you can know your haplogroup, you should also try to upload it to gedmatch and simulate your G25 there, it's nice so you can try all the G25 calculators (not the Unscaled version bcs it can't be simulated as i know)

I cannot wait to see how Southern Shifted I am!

[Occiput in Starlight]

Kit uploaded.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Edit.

[Occiput in Starlight]

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[Occiput in Starlight]

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[Beowulf]

I cannot wait to see how Southern Shifted I am!

From wich country are u? I think u said that already in another thread but idk

[Jana]

Upload raw data file here and you will find out yours/your brothers Y-DNA haplogroup:

https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

[Occiput in Starlight]

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[Occiput in Starlight]

Upload raw data file here and you will find out yours/your brothers Y-DNA haplogroup:

https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

You angel!

[Jana]

Can a Serb/Balkaner interpet the above for me?

I'm a Croat but seen hundereds of Serb result and your brother result is very typical score for ethnic Serbs. Dušan can explain in more detail tho.

[Occiput in Starlight]

E-V13!

[Occiput in Starlight]

I'm a Croat but seen hundereds of Serb result and your brother result is very typical score for ethnic Serbs. Dušan can explain in more detail tho.

Bas hvala

[Beowulf]

E-V13!

Pretty cool, i heard it's quite common in the balkans

[Jana]

E-V13!

Congrats, your paternal line descends from Daco-Thracian tribes. :)

[Occiput in Starlight]

You guys made my day.

Thanks again.

OiS

[Occiput in Starlight]

Pretty cool, i heard it's quite common in the balkans

I think it is most common among Albanians maybe.


Congrats, your paternal line descends from Daco-Thracian tribes. :)

Cheers, Feiichy.

[Grace O'Malley]

Can a Serb/Balkaner interpet the above for me?

You need to click on Oracle or Oracle4 to see what populations you match.

[Occiput in Starlight]

You need to click on Oracle or Oracle4 to see what populations you match.

Cheers.

Should I obscure the kit number if I post my eurogenes and dodecad here?

[Grace O'Malley]

Cheers.

Should I obscure the kit number if I post my eurogenes and dodecad here?

Yes don't post kit number but you can just copy the result without having to post a picture.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Eurogenes k13

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.75
2 North_Atlantic 22.4
3 West_Med 19.07
4 East_Med 16.91
5 West_Asian 10.09
6 Amerindian 0.78
7 South_Asian 0.42
8 Siberian 0.3
9 Northeast_African 0.28


# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.86
2 Serbian 6.2
3 Bulgarian 6.39
4 Moldavian 8
5 Croatian 10.61
6 Hungarian 12.26
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.83
8 Austrian 15.67
9 East_German 16.81
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.89
11 South_Polish 17.79
12 Ukrainian 17.84
13 North_Italian 19.25
14 Tuscan 20.06
15 Southwest_Russian 20.96
16 West_German 21
17 Polish 21.17
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.22
19 Italian_Abruzzo 21.71
20 Central_Greek 21.86


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Ukrainian @ 3.12
2 64.8% Bulgarian + 35.2% Croatian @ 3.33
3 83.8% Bulgarian + 16.2% Lithuanian @ 3.35
4 81% Bulgarian + 19% Estonian_Polish @ 3.38
5 54.8% Greek_Thessaly + 45.2% Ukrainian @ 3.41
6 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Polish @ 3.44
7 75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.46
8 80.9% Bulgarian + 19.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.49
9 57.4% Bulgarian + 42.6% Moldavian @ 3.5
10 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.56
11 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% South_Polish @ 3.57
12 81.9% Bulgarian + 18.1% Belorussian @ 3.59
13 84.2% Bulgarian + 15.8% Estonian @ 3.64
14 80% Bulgarian + 20% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.67
15 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.7
16 59.8% Ukrainian + 40.2% South_Italian @ 3.71
17 55.3% Ukrainian + 44.7% Central_Greek @ 3.72
18 59.1% Croatian + 40.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77
19 83.5% Bulgarian + 16.5% Erzya @ 3.89
20 67.2% Moldavian + 32.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.91

[Occiput in Starlight]

Euro k36

Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 5.18 Pct
Basque 1.99 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.99 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 9.7 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 15.31 Pct
East_Med 3.56 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.34 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.04 Pct
French 5.71 Pct
Iberian 7.93 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.4 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.35 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.75 Pct
North_Caucasian 4.41 Pct
North_Sea 6.88 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.43 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.69 Pct
West_Med 3.33 Pct

[Occiput in Starlight]

Dodecad k12b

Population
Gedrosia 3.97 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.26 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.9 Pct
North_European 40.03 Pct
South_Asian 0.52 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.99 Pct
East_Asian 0.78 Pct
Caucasus 23.54 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Occiput in Starlight]

I am posting the info, but I cannot interpet it.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Yes don't post kit number but you can just copy the result without having to post a picture.

Hvala, Grace O'Malley.

[gixajo]

[I]
Would this raw data contain our haplos?

Use the My Heritage raw data here:

Cladefinder (https://cladefinder.yseq.net/)

Morley´s Ydna predictocr (https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal)

[Occiput in Starlight]

Use the My Heritage raw data here:

Cladefinder (https://cladefinder.yseq.net/)

Morley´s Ydna predictocr (https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal)

Cheers.

I have already determined my ydna (E-V13) via cladedinder.

I will see if Morley's concurs.

[gixajo]

You can get simulated G25 coordinates using your Gedmatch results from different calculators HERE (https://allelocator.ovh/simulatedg25.html).

Not the real ones, but usually they are quite close to them.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Use the My Heritage raw data here:

Cladefinder (https://cladefinder.yseq.net/)

Morley´s Ydna predictocr (https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal)

Morley's suggests E1b1b1a1b7.
Cladefinder suggests E-V13.

?

[gixajo]

Morley's suggests E1b1b1a1b7.
Cladefinder suggests E-V13.

?

Balkanite!!! :rolleyes:

[Occiput in Starlight]

Balkanite!!! :rolleyes:

I told ya'all!

[Occiput in Starlight]

Balkanite!!! :rolleyes:

But which haplo am I?

[Occiput in Starlight]

Apologies.

I see now that e1b1 and ev13 are the same.

[gixajo]

But which haplo am I?

I don´t know but E for sure, Balkanite E whatever it is. ;)

I would bet for you being E-V13.

This would be E1b1b1a1b Heat map , using alternative E-Z1919 form(900+ samples)

https://i.postimg.cc/gcLGFnyn/E-Z1919.png (https://postimages.org/)


And this one E-V13.(600+ samples)

https://i.postimg.cc/8PwKZbFW/E-V13.png (https://postimages.org/)

Not much differences in its dispersion.

[Occiput in Starlight]

I don´t know but E for sure, Balkanite E whatever it is. ;)

I would bet for you being E-V13.

This would be E1b1b1a1b Heat map , using alternative E-Z1919 form(900+ samples)

https://i.postimg.cc/gcLGFnyn/E-Z1919.png (https://postimages.org/)


And this one E-V13.(600+ samples)

https://i.postimg.cc/8PwKZbFW/E-V13.png (https://postimages.org/)

Not much differences in its dispersion.

Seems ev13 is a lineage of e1b1b.

[Beowulf]

Use the My Heritage raw data here:

Cladefinder (https://cladefinder.yseq.net/)

Morley´s Ydna predictocr (https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal)

The Problem with MorleyDNA is that i got very different R1b branch haplgroups the first i got was a branch of L21 and then DF27 and S47 etc... i heard that Morley is Outdated so the accuracy is not very good.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Are there any other cool calculations/predictions I can do with the data? I want to compile all the good stuff to show my brother.

[gixajo]

The Problem with MorleyDNA is that i got very different R1b branch haplgroups the first i got was a branch of L21 and then DF27 and S47 etc... i heard that Morley is Outdated so the accuracy is not very good.

Morley´s gave me just R1a-M417, that it´s very "conservative" but it was right and Cladefinder gave me R1a-Z2125 that was wrong. (both with My Heritage raw data).

So both can work ok or don´t, depending on the case.:shrug:

[gixajo]

Are there any other cool calculations/predictions I can do with the data? I want to compile all the good stuff to show my brother.

You can use My True Ancestry , Genoplot, etc... for free (not all the features, but many).

And make coordinates with the Gedmatch calculators and use them with vahaduo using ecery calculator spreadsheet (k13, K36 etc...)

And of course, the Eurogenes K36 map of similitude: https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

[Beowulf]

Morley´s gave me just R1a-M417, that it´s very "conservative" but it was right and Cladefinder gave me R1a-Z2125 that was wrong. (both with My Heritage raw data).

So both can work ok or don´t, depending on the case.:shrug:

When i tried with my dad was even weird he got R1b but also got the haplogroup "S" xD

[gixajo]

Are there any other cool calculations/predictions I can do with the data? I want to compile all the good stuff to show my brother.

And Yourdnaportal is also free.

[Occiput in Starlight]

You can use My True Ancestry , Genoplot, etc... for free (not all the features, but many).

And make coordinates with the Gedmatch calculators and use them with vahaduo using ecery calculator spreadsheet (k13, K36 etc...)

And of course, the Eurogenes K36 map of similitude: https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

Thanks mate

[Occiput in Starlight]

Forgot this one

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Ukrainian @ 3.12
2 64.8% Bulgarian + 35.2% Croatian @ 3.33
3 83.8% Bulgarian + 16.2% Lithuanian @ 3.35
4 81% Bulgarian + 19% Estonian_Polish @ 3.38
5 54.8% Greek_Thessaly + 45.2% Ukrainian @ 3.41
6 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Polish @ 3.44
7 75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.46
8 80.9% Bulgarian + 19.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.49
9 57.4% Bulgarian + 42.6% Moldavian @ 3.5
10 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.56
11 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% South_Polish @ 3.57
12 81.9% Bulgarian + 18.1% Belorussian @ 3.59
13 84.2% Bulgarian + 15.8% Estonian @ 3.64
14 80% Bulgarian + 20% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.67
15 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.7
16 59.8% Ukrainian + 40.2% South_Italian @ 3.71
17 55.3% Ukrainian + 44.7% Central_Greek @ 3.72
18 59.1% Croatian + 40.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77
19 83.5% Bulgarian + 16.5% Erzya @ 3.89
20 67.2% Moldavian + 32.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.91

[MandM]

Milenko, my friend, this changes everything.

Thank you very much. I feel pretty stupid.

I just called my brother - sounded like he was out somewhere - and asked him to send me the raw data. Because the account is in his name, when I followed your instructions he was emailed. He said the email instructions advised that the raw data must be downloaded on a pc. He promised to forward the data to me tomorrow. Hopefully I can look at it - I only have a mobile phone.

Would this raw data contain our haplos?

I am happy that I could help, now i am intrested to see your brothers k13 :)

[Dušan]

Euro k36

Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 5.18 Pct
Basque 1.99 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.99 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 9.7 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 15.31 Pct
East_Med 3.56 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.34 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.04 Pct
French 5.71 Pct
Iberian 7.93 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.4 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.35 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.75 Pct
North_Caucasian 4.41 Pct
North_Sea 6.88 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.43 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.69 Pct
West_Med 3.33 Pct

Here is his K36 map:

https://i.imgur.com/01ku2wb.png

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

[Occiput in Starlight]

Here is his K36 map:

https://i.imgur.com/01ku2wb.png

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

Thank you.

Also, how would you characterize my results?

I am quite southern shifted?

[Dušan]

Dodecad k12b

Population
Gedrosia 3.97 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.26 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.9 Pct
North_European 40.03 Pct
South_Asian 0.52 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.99 Pct
East_Asian 0.78 Pct
Caucasus 23.54 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Using K12b updated https://pastebin.com/pD1vFFRF


Distance to: OiS-brother
2.81797800 Serb
2.92391860 Romanian_Crișana
3.03766358 Romanian_Maramureș
3.58772909 Moldovan_Central
4.23193809 Romanian_South_Moldavia
4.29184110 Romanian_North_Moldavia
4.46715793 Romanian_Transylvania
4.64392076 Moldovan_South
4.83328046 Montenegrin
4.87194007 Bosnian



1.881 OiS-brother = 68% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 32% Polish_Mazovia
1.914 OiS-brother = 54% Albanian + 46% Polish_Mazovia
1.941 OiS-brother = 65% Greek_Macedonia + 35% Polish_Mazovia
1.977 OiS-brother = 52% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 48% Ukrainian_Southwest
2.060 OiS-brother = 73% Greek_Macedonia + 27% Lithuanian
2.076 OiS-brother = 52% Ukrainian_Southwest + 48% Greek_Macedonia
2.127 OiS-brother = 68% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 32% Belorussian
2.146 OiS-brother = 66% Greek_Macedonia + 34% Belorussian
2.158 OiS-brother = 75% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 25% Lithuanian
2.158 OiS-brother = 63% Ukrainian_Southwest + 37% Albanian

[Dušan]

Thank you.

Also, how would you characterize my results?

I am quite southern shifted?

Is that your brother or you? :)

This result is very close to average.

According to Dodecad K12b he is only a bit shifted toward Caucasus.


209 models (4 ms):
2.703 OiS-brother = 99% Serb + 1% Georgian_West
2.706 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Abkhazian
2.711 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Ossetian_South
2.727 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Ossetian
2.737 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Circassian
2.738 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Balkar
2.742 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Adyghe
2.743 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Karachay
2.754 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Abazin
2.760 OiS-brother = 99% Serb + 1% Laz

[Occiput in Starlight]

Is that your brother or you? :)

This result is verz close to average.

He is only a bit shifted toward Caucasus.

Updated K12b Dodecad

209 models (4 ms):
2.703 OiS-brother = 99% Serb + 1% Georgian_West
2.706 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Abkhazian
2.711 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Ossetian_South
2.727 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Ossetian
2.737 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Circassian
2.738 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Balkar
2.742 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Adyghe
2.743 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Karachay
2.754 OiS-brother = 98% Serb + 2% Abazin
2.760 OiS-brother = 99% Serb + 1% Laz

My fraternal twin.

Cheers for all this info, man. I have to sleep now (2am here) but I look forward to relaying all this to my bro tomorrow.

[HelloGuys]

E-V13!

We are both E :) except that I have the most impressive and cooler subclade which is M-183 :D sorry amigo, not everyone got the same luck :p

[HelloGuys]

Apologies.

I see now that e1b1 and ev13 are the same.

This is your haplo linage until to E-V13:

E1b1b M215-> E1b1b1 M35 -> E1b1b1a L539 -> M78 -> Z1919 -> V13

[FaZe]

Congratulations. Just curious to know what E-V13 clade you belong to since I'm E-V13 from maternal side and Albanian and possibly match some Kosovo Serbs. I'm from Kosovo too. But we need to do bigger test.

[FaZe]

Thinking about it again, We are E-L241 basically so it is most likely a different clade all together such as E-PH2180 mostly found around here. This Y-DNA is completely non-existant in other Albanian territories except for the marked parts below.

https://rrenjet.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/E-PH2180-harta-2022.11.png



For even deeper analysis than PH2180 we would need to do bigger test.

[Kriptc06]

E-V13!

very nice! hello there cousin!:cool:


https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-V13/

[Occiput in Starlight]

Congratulations. Just curious to know what E-V13 clade you belong to since I'm E-V13 from maternal side and Albanian and possibly match some Kosovo Serbs. I'm from Kosovo too. But we need to do bigger test.

Hi, mate.

If I put my data into cladefinder or Morley's, where do I find the subclade in the output? Let us see if we are related!

[Occiput in Starlight]

We are both E :) except that I have the most impressive and cooler subclade which is M-183 :D sorry amigo, not everyone got the same luck :p

We must be second cousins or something!

[Occiput in Starlight]

Congratulations. Just curious to know what E-V13 clade you belong to since I'm E-V13 from maternal side and Albanian and possibly match some Kosovo Serbs. I'm from Kosovo too. But we need to do bigger test.
Most specific position on the YFull YTree is E-V13 Link to E-V13 on YFull View heatmap on Y Heatmap View theoretical migration on PhyloGeographer

E-V13 CTS10084/PF2245/Z1058($) CTS11813/Z1060(?) CTS12527/PF2206(?) CTS1408/Z1045(?) CTS2374/Z1049($) CTS2382/PF2128/Z1050(?) CTS3998(?) CTS4993($) CTS529(?) CTS5371/PF2231($) CTS5850/PF2233(?) CTS5935/PF2235/Z1053(?) CTS6229/Z1054($) CTS6472(?) CTS7315(?) CTS7633/PF2240/Z1056(?) CTS791/PF2212/Z1044(?) CTS8061(?) CTS9071($) FGC11424(?) FGC11426(?) FGC11434(?) FGC11438/Z21282(?) FGC11443(?) FGC41616(?) L1024/CTS3726/PF2226($) L542/PF2220($) PF2209/Z1042(?) PF2213/S7466(?) PF2214(?) PF2222/Z1051(?) PF2248/Z1059(?) PF6785(?) V13/PF2211+ V36/PF2210+ V7565/Y3865/FGC11422/SK887($) Y3181(?) Y3182/Z21285(?) Y3864/Z21284(?) Y4359/FGC19292(?) Y4361/FGC11439(?) Z1896(?) Z21281(?) L142.1/L142.2/L142($)
┣━E-BY6550 +1 BY40504($) BY6546($) BY6550(?) BY6552($) BY6554($) BY6557(?) BY6561(?) BY6562(?) BY6566(?) BY6568($) BY6569(?) FGC34532($) FT272464($) Y141643($) Y325861(?)
┗━E-Z1057 +2 CTS8814/Z1057($) Y3764/FGC14553(?) Z1041/Z1099(?)

Available Panels
YSEQ recommends the E1b-V13 Panel Predicted E-V13 is the panel root. This panel is applicable and will definitely provide higher resolution.


Next best prediction (scored 314 compared to 316) E-L618

[Occiput in Starlight]

very nice! hello there cousin!:cool:


https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-V13/

Thanks for the link, cuz.

I wanna paint a neat picture for my brother of his results.

[FaZe]

Most specific position on the YFull YTree is E-V13 Link to E-V13 on YFull View heatmap on Y Heatmap View theoretical migration on PhyloGeographer

E-V13 CTS10084/PF2245/Z1058($) CTS11813/Z1060(?) CTS12527/PF2206(?) CTS1408/Z1045(?) CTS2374/Z1049($) CTS2382/PF2128/Z1050(?) CTS3998(?) CTS4993($) CTS529(?) CTS5371/PF2231($) CTS5850/PF2233(?) CTS5935/PF2235/Z1053(?) CTS6229/Z1054($) CTS6472(?) CTS7315(?) CTS7633/PF2240/Z1056(?) CTS791/PF2212/Z1044(?) CTS8061(?) CTS9071($) FGC11424(?) FGC11426(?) FGC11434(?) FGC11438/Z21282(?) FGC11443(?) FGC41616(?) L1024/CTS3726/PF2226($) L542/PF2220($) PF2209/Z1042(?) PF2213/S7466(?) PF2214(?) PF2222/Z1051(?) PF2248/Z1059(?) PF6785(?) V13/PF2211+ V36/PF2210+ V7565/Y3865/FGC11422/SK887($) Y3181(?) Y3182/Z21285(?) Y3864/Z21284(?) Y4359/FGC19292(?) Y4361/FGC11439(?) Z1896(?) Z21281(?) L142.1/L142.2/L142($)
┣━E-BY6550 +1 BY40504($) BY6546($) BY6550(?) BY6552($) BY6554($) BY6557(?) BY6561(?) BY6562(?) BY6566(?) BY6568($) BY6569(?) FGC34532($) FT272464($) Y141643($) Y325861(?)
┗━E-Z1057 +2 CTS8814/Z1057($) Y3764/FGC14553(?) Z1041/Z1099(?)

Available Panels
YSEQ recommends the E1b-V13 Panel Predicted E-V13 is the panel root. This panel is applicable and will definitely provide higher resolution.


Next best prediction (scored 314 compared to 316) E-L618


E-L618 is the parent of E-V13 which has been found in Neolithic Balkans. I sent a message to some people who know about these predictions and will report back your results.

[Occiput in Starlight]

E-L618 is the parent of E-V13 which has been found in Neolithic Balkans. I sent a message to some people who know about these predictions and will report back your results.

Wow, that's awesome, man. Cheers.

Btw, is my brother's kit number in the post I made and you quoted?

[Occiput in Starlight]

So, I can tell my bro his haplo is e-v13?

His clade(not subclade?) is E-L618 and it is associated with the Neolithic Balkans?

His result is pretty average for Serb but there is some kavkazian shift?

There is some Romanian shift?

Anything else come to mind?

I will of course send him the data lists and maps etc.

[FaZe]

Wow, that's awesome, man. Cheers.

Btw, is my brother's kit number in the post I made and you quoted?

No, I don't see your kit number or any personal information. Anyway, it looks like you are E-Z1057 at least if I understand this correctly, https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z1057/


And you could belong to any clade under Z1057 , that's what I'm trying to figure out. As I am still waiting for reply. It is possible you belong to a clade found among Serbs. We will see.

[Occiput in Starlight]

No, I don't see your kit number or any personal information. Anyway, it looks like you are E-Z1057 at least if I understand this correctly, https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z1057/


And you could belong to any clade under Z1057 , that's what I'm trying to figure out. As I am still waiting for reply. It is possible you belong to a clade found among Serbs. We will see.

Thank you very much.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Thank you to everyone who was congratulating and helping me yesterday. I apologize if I missed some posts or neglected to reply to others. I was scatterbrained. The whole thing came out of the blue.

[FaZe]

Sorry that you had to wait. I sent a message to one person who knows about this but they didn't reply yet. But looks like you are for sure E-V13 or E-L618.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Sorry that you had to wait. I sent a message to one person who knows about this but they didn't reply yet. But looks like you are for sure E-V13 or E-L618.

No need to say sorry, my friend!! My brother and I look forward to finding out! Thanks again.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Sorry that you had to wait. I sent a message to one person who knows about this but they didn't reply yet. But looks like you are for sure E-V13 or E-L618.

Btw, so what is the difference between the two?

[Occiput in Starlight]

I understand that E-L618 is upstream of E-V13, but what is the significance for my ancestry?

Are they associated with different modern groups or something?