Classify and pass a Russian teenage girl

[Therodimus]

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[thewildsouth]

I'd say she looks Pre Slavic.

[Therodimus]

I'd say she looks Pre Slavic.

What's that mean?

[thewildsouth]

There's a phenotype called Pre Slavic. You can find it in Human Phenotypes.

[Therodimus]

There's a phenotype called Pre Slavic. You can find it in Human Phenotypes.

Thanx! Looked it up!

[Davy Jones's Locker]

Is she ethnic Russian?

[Therodimus]

Is she ethnic Russian?

As far as I know, her dad is Ukrainian

[Beowulf]

I'd say she looks Pre Slavic.

+1

[aherne]

Pontid with Baltid admix... Nothing unusual or "Ukrainian"

[Therodimus]

Pontid with Baltid admix... Nothing unusual or "Ukrainian"
Still her dad is ethnically Ukrainian

[Zohor]

Pontid imo, is there a chance for some side profile picture?

[Therodimus]

All I can get
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[aherne]

Still her dad is ethnically Ukrainian

There is no such ethnic group. It is a Soviet invention, like 'moldovans' or 'karelians'

[Therodimus]

There is no such ethnic group. It is a Soviet invention, like 'moldovans' or 'karelians'

Say that to Ukrainians, ha-ha!

[Zohor]

There is no such ethnic group. It is a Soviet invention, like 'moldovans' or 'karelians'

So edgy, maybe let's leave to people whom they identify as, ethnicities is still a recent thing of about few hundred years, basically the same thing as tribe, which can be clearly seen in Romania which is basically a mish mash of everything in one pot yet you all identify as Romanian by speaking language, cultural stuff you practice etc not because of "we all look the same let's have children and keep the trend for centuries"

I wouldn't be surprised if legitimately we will have Donbassians and Transnistrians as ethnicity in next 50 years

[dviz]

So edgy, maybe let's leave to people whom they identify as, ethnicities is still a recent thing of about few hundred years, basically the same thing as tribe, which can be clearly seen in Romania which is basically a mish mash of everything in one pot yet you all identify as Romanian by speaking language, cultural stuff you practice etc not because of "we all look the same let's have children and keep the trend for centuries"

I wouldn't be surprised if legitimately we will have Donbassians and Transnistrians as ethnicity in next 50 years

You're both wrong.
Ukrainians are an ethnic group, even though a relatively young one.

Romanians are not an ethnic mish-mash, but their Balkan ancestors were. So yes, Romanians have very diverse looks, but this diversity has long existed here.

Speaking the same language and sharing the same culture is not enough to form an ethnic group, otherwise, Soviet Union would have survived.
Romanians are a cohesive social group with a long history, while Russians are not, let alone the Soviets. This is why Russians cannot protest in the streets even when they're crushed by the ruling regime, there's no cohesion among them (in fact, the regime is more coherent than the population, which is tragic).

[aherne]

So edgy, maybe let's leave to people whom they identify as, ethnicities is still a recent thing of about few hundred years

This is a semitically correct lie, prelude to diversifying formerly European countries (there is no "French", so what's wrong with millions of "people of color" coming). Some ethnicities had no self identity (French or SW Slavs for example), but most had a very live one: Germans, Russians, Romanians, you name it. Ukrainians, including those that live in Romania, had a Russian identity until late 19th / early 20th centuries. The very concept of "Ukrainian" didn't exist...

[Therodimus]

Long story short: read Gogol, in the middle of XIX century
"Ukrainian" was well established as a self-identification ethnonym as opposed to 'moskals' (great Russians as were Russians officially called in the Russian Empire). Before that, true, in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth both modern Belarusians and Ukrainians were defined and self-defined as Ruthenians but despite that they self-defined as many other Slavic ethnic groups, which later merged into Ukrainian and Belarusian nations.

For some decades after the annexation of former Polish
territories by Russia, Austria and Hapsburgs, modern Belarusians and Ukrainians were called "Lithuanian-Russians" in the Russian Empire.

So while the Soviets invented some things, they never invented any nations out of the blue but generally dealt with well-established cultural-historical stuff

[aherne]

Long story short: read Gogol, in the middle of XIX century
"Ukrainian" was well established as a self-identification ethnonym as opposed to 'moskals' (great Russians as were Russians officially called in the Russian Empire).

False! Let us not build a NATO-oriented (bolshevik-loving) "history". Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Russian_identity



The new ethnonym was promoted instead of the widespread name Ruthenian (Rusyny; русини). The struggle between the two projects of national identity lasted until the dissolution of the Russian Empire. The revolutionary events of 1917 led to a rapid strengthening of the Ukrainian national idea, which was backed by many Western Ukrainians in Galicia who joined the political life in Kiev. Because of their adjacency to the Russian White Movement, political activists with Little Russian, and Pan-Russian views were among the social groups who suffered the most during the Revolution, and the troubles of the Civil War; many of whom were killed during the war or forced to emigrate.[1]

After the end of the Civil War, the process of Ukrainian nation-building was resumed in the territory of Ukrainian SSR by the Bolshevik party and the Soviet authorities, who introduced the policy of korenizatsiya, the implementation of which in the Ukrainian SSR was called Ukrainization. As a result, the term "Little Russian" was marginalized and remained in usage only among White emigres.


Also check: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainization

And so on... Mind this comes from a very pro-West source (most editors are Jewish or leftists) and yet they hint the truth. In Romania, so-called "Ukrainians" still had Russian national identity. An ethnicity is an organic group, united by genes, language, traditions (more or less). It is not something one can opt-in or opt-out.

[Therodimus]

False! Let us not build a NATO-oriented (bolshevik-loving) "history". Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Russian_identity



Also check: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainization

And so on... Mind this comes from a very pro-West source (most editors are Jewish or leftists) and yet they hint the truth. In Romania, so-called "Ukrainians" still had Russian national identity. An ethnicity is an organic group, united by genes, language, traditions (more or less). It is not something one can opt-in or opt-out.
I can tell you one thing: whatever you call these people, whatever they called themselves, their culture and ethnicity were not that of Great Russians but distinct