How can i model Germans with g25?

[Jingle Bell]

Trying to model Germans and close countries but i find rly hard create a good model for this area, especially using Individuals as Target, look:

3-way model: La Tene + DEU_MA_Krakenberg + DEU_Alemmanic

https://i.imgur.com/GhNIpUj.png

No way germans are that much Celt, something is lacking, i alr tried similar models but all seens similar, unrealistic, what model/tips do u guys sugest? Since we have no article abt Germanic-Celtic-Slavic proportion in Germany

ty

[Jana]

Trying to model Germans and close countries but i find rly hard create a good model for this area, especially using Individuals as Target, look:

3-way model: La Tene + DEU_MA_Krakenberg + DEU_Alemmanic

https://i.imgur.com/GhNIpUj.png

No way germans are that much Celt, something is lacking, i alr tried similar models but all seens similar, unrealistic, what model/tips do u guys sugest? Since we have no article abt Germanic-Celtic-Slavic proportion in Germany

ty

You're using wrong Celtic proxy as some Czech La Tene samples are Scandinavian like and thus not actual Celts. Try Austrian Iron Age instead (or French, but only samples that are central French like, not Breton like or similar).

[Jingle Bell]

You're using wrong Celtic proxy as some Czech La Tene samples are Scandinavian like and thus not actual Celts. Try Austrian Iron Age instead (or French, but only samples that are central French like, not Breton like or similar).

The La Tene sample is French-like: (im using a average to get off of overlaps/fits)

Distance to: CZE_IA_La_Tene
0.01297572 North_West_Europe:Breton_Loire-Atlantique
0.01440869 North_West_Europe:Breton_Ille-et-Vilaine
0.01543440 North_West_Europe:Belgian_(Walloon_Profile)

But using AUS_La_Tene:

https://i.imgur.com/NUUqJ0e.png
https://i.imgur.com/9nLE2LI.png

Also tried the Gaul Central french-like & i tried change the Germanic reference:
https://i.imgur.com/mm6Qnsx.png

Idk, im not rly a expert in Germanic history but seens weird that they are Germanic as they are Slavic, i also the models seens instable, some are the variation its btw 5% - 80%, also the distance seens bad, something its lacking, i tried add a Baltic-like sample just to se if was that the missing component but they dont scored any

[PierreUno]

Trying to model Germans and close countries but i find rly hard create a good model for this area, especially using Individuals as Target, look:

3-way model: La Tene + DEU_MA_Krakenberg + DEU_Alemmanic

https://i.imgur.com/GhNIpUj.png

No way germans are that much Celt, something is lacking, i alr tried similar models but all seens similar, unrealistic, what model/tips do u guys sugest? Since we have no article abt Germanic-Celtic-Slavic proportion in Germany

ty

Wrong tool i.e. G25 perhaps ?:


https://i.postimg.cc/Sx77hZH5/Vahaduo-Celto-Germanic-PCA-West-East-1.png

[PierreUno]

You're using wrong Celtic proxy as some Czech La Tene samples are Scandinavian like and thus not actual Celts. Try Austrian Iron Age instead (or French, but only samples that are central French like, not Breton like or similar).


https://i.postimg.cc/zBmJFjGz/Vahaduo-Celto-Germanic-PCA-West-East-2.png

[Jingle Bell]

Wrong tool i.e. G25 perhaps ?:


https://i.postimg.cc/Sx77hZH5/Vahaduo-Celto-Germanic-PCA-West-East-1.png

we know that g25 inst the best when comes to diferenceate overlapping populations, but qpAdm its just too hard to install, use multiple models, and finally find a model with good p-value and low se, so i think its easier find a good model at g25 than serach for a at least passable model in qpAdm for example

[PierreUno]

we know that g25 inst the best when comes to diferenceate overlapping populations, but qpAdm its just too hard to install, use multiple models, and finally find a model with good p-value and low se, so i think its easier find a good model at g25 than serach for a at least passable model in qpAdm for example


You are trying differentiate between celts and germanics and G25 is horrible at that but Davidski made a less popular Celtic vs Germanic PCA set and if I make it on an east-west or west-east cline it can incorporate slavic difference too it seems :



https://i.postimg.cc/zBmJFjGz/Vahaduo-Celto-Germanic-PCA-West-East-2.png

Being Engllish I cluster West closer to the Denmark Jutland Iron Age e.g. the Jutes/Angles as in Angle-land or England , genius : so the model seems correct :


https://i.postimg.cc/2S9Z7PW4/taketwo.png

[rothaer]

Trying to model Germans and close countries but i find rly hard create a good model for this area, especially using Individuals as Target, look:

3-way model: La Tene + DEU_MA_Krakenberg + DEU_Alemmanic

https://i.imgur.com/GhNIpUj.png

No way germans are that much Celt, something is lacking, i alr tried similar models but all seens similar, unrealistic, what model/tips do u guys sugest? Since we have no article abt Germanic-Celtic-Slavic proportion in Germany

ty

Try the Feiichy G25 ancient Slavic calculator 2.2 scaled (source in the spoiler).


Balkan:HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje:R3547___AD_571___Covera ge_57.30%,0.112685,0.144205,0.002263,-0.031654,0.021542,-0.010877,0.00517,-0.002538,0.001636,0.01877,0,0.006145,-0.00996,0.004817,-0.014386,-0.012463,-0.004303,-0.005954,-0.003394,-0.000875,-0.011729,0.000866,0.002218,-0.000482,0.000239
Balkan:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_500___Coverage_56.14%, 0.117238,0.141159,-0.001508,-0.030039,0.015387,-0.016733,-0.00376,-0.006461,-0.00225,0.020228,-0.00065,0.003297,-0.017096,-0.001789,-0.010586,0.007558,0.012386,-0.003294,0.001634,-0.004002,-0.004367,-0.001484,-0.001849,0.002771,-0.000359
Celtic-like:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699___BC_350___Coverage_73. 92%,0.127482,0.152329,0.050534,0.005814,0.047701,0 .00251,0.004465,0.011307,0.02127,0.026606,-0.002598,0.006594,-0.009366,-0.004954,0.007736,-0.009149,-0.017602,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004627,0.000998,0.002349,-0.004067,-0.005543,-0.006347
Celtic-like:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701___BC_350___Coverage_74. 10%,0.126344,0.145221,0.039598,0.000646,0.038469,0 .000279,0.00188,0.006923,0.006954,0.018041,-0.003085,0.005845,-0.014717,0.004129,0.002579,-0.009679,-0.012386,0.007221,0.013575,-0.002876,0.000998,-0.004451,0.004067,-0.00253,-0.006586
Celtic-like:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708___BC_350___Coverage_70. 39%,0.134311,0.146236,0.049026,0.008075,0.043085,0 .007809,0.001175,-0.000231,0.017589,0.021868,0.002273,0.007194,-0.007284,-0.008533,-0.005836,0.004508,0.019688,0.006461,0.004399,0.001 626,0.003369,0.001978,-0.010599,0.004579,-0.000359
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.125 926,0.075424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0 .010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.127 957,0.067127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0. 014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.129 988,0.078818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0 .006692,0.005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10___AD_473___Coverage_95.60%,0.12862 ,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.00 6345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%,0.132035 ,0.128972,0.076178,0.057494,0.04647,0.021196,0.006 815,0.011769,0.001227,-0.01221,-0.002436,-0.002398,0.000595,-0.009083,0.020765,0.0118,-0.010431,0.005701,0.006159,0.005753,0.013102,0.003 833,0,0.013496,-0.00012
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%,0.138864, 0.116786,0.058454,0.042959,0.036314,0.024821,0.002 35,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%,0.133173, 0.128972,0.068259,0.062662,0.035699,0.019522,0.002 585,0.009923,0.001432,-0.005832,0.001137,0.008992,-0.005946,-0.006881,0.024158,0.006232,-0.008084,-0.000253,-0.003017,0.009004,0.003244,0.005193,0.001109,0.014 219,0.003353
Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%,0.130897, 0.131003,0.057699,0.06137,0.044008,0.011713,0.0051 7,0.002538,-0.000409,0.000547,-0.012991,0.005845,-0.004906,-0.010735,0.010586,0.012463,0.000782,-0.003801,0.002891,0.012381,0.009109,0.004328,-0.004314,0.005663,0.003952
Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%,0.122929,0 .139128,0.070144,0.067184,0.038469,0.018128,0.0061 1,0.006461,-0.000205,-0.009294,-0.000974,-0.00015,-0.008474,-0.00055,0.017372,-0.006629,-0.022296,0.005954,0.005908,-0.004627,0.015597,0.000742,0.007395,0.008555,0.002 634
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:CL145___AD_605___Coverage_70.96%,0.132035 ,0.139128,0.060339,0.067507,0.041854,0.018686,0.00 94,0.01223,0.001023,-0.009841,0.000812,0.006594,-0.00446,-0.001239,0.02918,-0.006364,-0.029336,0.004561,0.010056,0.003752,0.006489,0.010 263,-0.002465,0.017231,0.002634
Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%,0.129758 ,0.131003,0.063356,0.05491,0.040931,0.015897,0.003 525,0.010384,0.001023,-0.006925,-0.002761,0.004346,-0.017988,-0.007982,0.026873,0.001193,-0.0103,0.003294,0.010056,0.011255,0.006239,0.00432 8,0.003944,0.017954,0.000838
Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%,0.135449, 0.132019,0.070144,0.04845,0.037238,0.013945,0.0079 9,0.020307,0.005522,0.002551,-0.013478,-0.001649,-0.005798,-0.004404,0.02348,0.005171,-0.023208,0.005321,0.004777,-0.003502,0.008735,0.008903,-0.00493,0.003615,0.001078
Finnic-like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754


It's transparent and well considered and does give plausible results for Germans as well. Germanics refer to Germanics per abt. 50 BCE, i. e. from before the Germanic expansion into former Celtic areas in later Germania magna.

My result from that calculator is in my signature.

[rothaer]

You are trying differentiate between celts and germanics and G25 is horrible at that but Davidski made a less popular Celtic vs Germanic PCA set (...)

And even an own coords system. And he did all this because G25 doesn't really work in that aspect.

[gixajo]

Trying to model Germans and close countries but i find rly hard create a good model for this area, especially using Individuals as Target, look:



No way germans are that much Celt, something is lacking, i alr tried similar models but all seens similar, unrealistic, what model/tips do u guys sugest? Since we have no article abt Germanic-Celtic-Slavic proportion in Germany

ty

Never tried to model them, but first thing I can think is using Bell Beaker and Corded Ware, to see the West/East shift ?

Maybe add some ancient Baltic could complete the picture, but not sure if that could overlapp with 2 others.

I am not sure that Celtic is easily distinguishable from Germanic, but both should be mainly modelled with a Bell Beaker base.

Or just label both type references as "Celto-Germanic" and use them with any Slavic reference in the model.

[Jingle Bell]

Try the Feiichy G25 ancient Slavic calculator 2.2 scaled (source in the spoiler).


Balkan:HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje:R3547___AD_571___Covera ge_57.30%,0.112685,0.144205,0.002263,-0.031654,0.021542,-0.010877,0.00517,-0.002538,0.001636,0.01877,0,0.006145,-0.00996,0.004817,-0.014386,-0.012463,-0.004303,-0.005954,-0.003394,-0.000875,-0.011729,0.000866,0.002218,-0.000482,0.000239
Balkan:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_500___Coverage_56.14%, 0.117238,0.141159,-0.001508,-0.030039,0.015387,-0.016733,-0.00376,-0.006461,-0.00225,0.020228,-0.00065,0.003297,-0.017096,-0.001789,-0.010586,0.007558,0.012386,-0.003294,0.001634,-0.004002,-0.004367,-0.001484,-0.001849,0.002771,-0.000359
Celtic-like:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699___BC_350___Coverage_73. 92%,0.127482,0.152329,0.050534,0.005814,0.047701,0 .00251,0.004465,0.011307,0.02127,0.026606,-0.002598,0.006594,-0.009366,-0.004954,0.007736,-0.009149,-0.017602,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004627,0.000998,0.002349,-0.004067,-0.005543,-0.006347
Celtic-like:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701___BC_350___Coverage_74. 10%,0.126344,0.145221,0.039598,0.000646,0.038469,0 .000279,0.00188,0.006923,0.006954,0.018041,-0.003085,0.005845,-0.014717,0.004129,0.002579,-0.009679,-0.012386,0.007221,0.013575,-0.002876,0.000998,-0.004451,0.004067,-0.00253,-0.006586
Celtic-like:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708___BC_350___Coverage_70. 39%,0.134311,0.146236,0.049026,0.008075,0.043085,0 .007809,0.001175,-0.000231,0.017589,0.021868,0.002273,0.007194,-0.007284,-0.008533,-0.005836,0.004508,0.019688,0.006461,0.004399,0.001 626,0.003369,0.001978,-0.010599,0.004579,-0.000359
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.125 926,0.075424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0 .010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.127 957,0.067127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0. 014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.129 988,0.078818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0 .006692,0.005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10___AD_473___Coverage_95.60%,0.12862 ,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.00 6345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%,0.132035 ,0.128972,0.076178,0.057494,0.04647,0.021196,0.006 815,0.011769,0.001227,-0.01221,-0.002436,-0.002398,0.000595,-0.009083,0.020765,0.0118,-0.010431,0.005701,0.006159,0.005753,0.013102,0.003 833,0,0.013496,-0.00012
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%,0.138864, 0.116786,0.058454,0.042959,0.036314,0.024821,0.002 35,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%,0.133173, 0.128972,0.068259,0.062662,0.035699,0.019522,0.002 585,0.009923,0.001432,-0.005832,0.001137,0.008992,-0.005946,-0.006881,0.024158,0.006232,-0.008084,-0.000253,-0.003017,0.009004,0.003244,0.005193,0.001109,0.014 219,0.003353
Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%,0.130897, 0.131003,0.057699,0.06137,0.044008,0.011713,0.0051 7,0.002538,-0.000409,0.000547,-0.012991,0.005845,-0.004906,-0.010735,0.010586,0.012463,0.000782,-0.003801,0.002891,0.012381,0.009109,0.004328,-0.004314,0.005663,0.003952
Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%,0.122929,0 .139128,0.070144,0.067184,0.038469,0.018128,0.0061 1,0.006461,-0.000205,-0.009294,-0.000974,-0.00015,-0.008474,-0.00055,0.017372,-0.006629,-0.022296,0.005954,0.005908,-0.004627,0.015597,0.000742,0.007395,0.008555,0.002 634
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:CL145___AD_605___Coverage_70.96%,0.132035 ,0.139128,0.060339,0.067507,0.041854,0.018686,0.00 94,0.01223,0.001023,-0.009841,0.000812,0.006594,-0.00446,-0.001239,0.02918,-0.006364,-0.029336,0.004561,0.010056,0.003752,0.006489,0.010 263,-0.002465,0.017231,0.002634
Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%,0.129758 ,0.131003,0.063356,0.05491,0.040931,0.015897,0.003 525,0.010384,0.001023,-0.006925,-0.002761,0.004346,-0.017988,-0.007982,0.026873,0.001193,-0.0103,0.003294,0.010056,0.011255,0.006239,0.00432 8,0.003944,0.017954,0.000838
Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%,0.135449, 0.132019,0.070144,0.04845,0.037238,0.013945,0.0079 9,0.020307,0.005522,0.002551,-0.013478,-0.001649,-0.005798,-0.004404,0.02348,0.005171,-0.023208,0.005321,0.004777,-0.003502,0.008735,0.008903,-0.00493,0.003615,0.001078
Finnic-like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754


It's transparent and well considered and does give plausible results for Germans as well. Germanics refer to Germanics per abt. 50 BCE, i. e. from before the Germanic expansion into former Celtic areas in later Germania magna.

My result from that calculator is in my signature.

https://i.imgur.com/BW1gUvO.png
yeah looks way more accurate than my model, tysm Roather and Feiichy!