CommonSense
05-05-2023, 06:47 PM
Someone pointed out to me that I match this guy on gedmatch. He has a wikitree and a gedcom with a detailed list of recent ancestors. They are all people with Italian names from Istria and Rijeka. I've never seen a DNA result of any kind of an Italian from Croatia, given how few of them there are.
Either way, this is extremely interesting. In his case, language and ethnicity is in contrast with admixture. I have no idea whether or not that's the case for all Italians from Istria and nearby.
Eurogenes K13:
Kit TE9900594
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.49
2 North_Atlantic 22.23
3 East_Med 17.34
4 West_Med 16.54
5 West_Asian 10.05
6 East_Asian 0.82
7 Oceanian 0.3
8 Siberian 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.87
2 Serbian 6.9
3 Romanian 7.79
4 Bulgarian 8.34
5 Croatian 9.21
6 Hungarian 11.64
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.99
8 Austrian 15.71
9 Ukrainian 15.8
10 South_Polish 15.81
11 East_German 16.63
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.06
13 Southwest_Russian 18.43
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.66
15 Polish 19.19
16 Russian_Smolensk 20.68
17 Estonian_Polish 21.08
18 Belorussian 21.72
19 West_German 21.85
20 North_Italian 22.05
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.9% Bulgarian + 23.1% Lithuanian @ 3
2 70% Bulgarian + 30% Southwest_Russian @ 3.01
3 70.4% Bulgarian + 29.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.12
4 72.9% Bulgarian + 27.1% Estonian_Polish @ 3.12
5 73.6% Bulgarian + 26.4% Belorussian @ 3.24
6 66.8% Bulgarian + 33.2% Ukrainian @ 3.26
7 72.7% Bulgarian + 27.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.28
8 52.3% Greek_Thessaly + 47.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.62
9 52% Greek_Thessaly + 48% Southwest_Russian @ 3.63
10 71.2% Ukrainian + 28.8% Cyprian @ 3.71
11 71.6% Bulgarian + 28.4% Polish @ 3.74
12 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Erzya @ 3.75
13 60.6% Ukrainian + 39.4% Central_Greek @ 3.78
14 66.1% Bulgarian + 33.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.81
15 60.8% Greek_Thessaly + 39.2% Lithuanian @ 3.82
16 77.8% Bulgarian + 22.2% Estonian @ 3.86
17 52% Ukrainian + 48% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.86
18 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% South_Polish @ 3.86
19 75.3% Bulgarian + 24.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.88
20 52.2% Central_Greek + 47.8% Lithuanian @ 3.89
Vahaduo distances with the updated spreadsheet:
TE9900594,22.23,32.49,16.54,10.05,17.34,0,0,0.82,0 .23,0,0.3,0,0
Distance to: TE9900594
4.25511457 Serb_CentralCroatia
4.48844071 Bosniak_Southeast
4.51602701 Serb_EastSerbia
4.58307757 Moldovan_South
4.64595523 Moldovan_Central
4.78820426 Croat_Herzegovina
4.85690230 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
4.95510848 Serb_CentralSerbia
4.99370604 Serb_Lika
5.01676190 Serb_SouthSerbia
5.02627098 Romanian_Moldavia_Central
5.13487098 Serb_WestSerbia
5.25337035 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
5.61278897 Serb_Vojvodina
5.69028998 Bosniak_Krajina_West
5.69361924 Serb_Dalmatia
6.20517526 Romanian_Moldavia_North
6.21181938 Vlach_Serbia
6.23982372 Moldovan_North
6.25564545 Croat_Bosnia
6.26453510 Croat_Dalmatia
6.28099514 Croat_Slavonia
6.30042062 Romanian_Crişana
6.39139265 Romanian_Maramureş
6.49609883 Serb_Herzegovina
Either way, this is extremely interesting. In his case, language and ethnicity is in contrast with admixture. I have no idea whether or not that's the case for all Italians from Istria and nearby.
Eurogenes K13:
Kit TE9900594
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.49
2 North_Atlantic 22.23
3 East_Med 17.34
4 West_Med 16.54
5 West_Asian 10.05
6 East_Asian 0.82
7 Oceanian 0.3
8 Siberian 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.87
2 Serbian 6.9
3 Romanian 7.79
4 Bulgarian 8.34
5 Croatian 9.21
6 Hungarian 11.64
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.99
8 Austrian 15.71
9 Ukrainian 15.8
10 South_Polish 15.81
11 East_German 16.63
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.06
13 Southwest_Russian 18.43
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.66
15 Polish 19.19
16 Russian_Smolensk 20.68
17 Estonian_Polish 21.08
18 Belorussian 21.72
19 West_German 21.85
20 North_Italian 22.05
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.9% Bulgarian + 23.1% Lithuanian @ 3
2 70% Bulgarian + 30% Southwest_Russian @ 3.01
3 70.4% Bulgarian + 29.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.12
4 72.9% Bulgarian + 27.1% Estonian_Polish @ 3.12
5 73.6% Bulgarian + 26.4% Belorussian @ 3.24
6 66.8% Bulgarian + 33.2% Ukrainian @ 3.26
7 72.7% Bulgarian + 27.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.28
8 52.3% Greek_Thessaly + 47.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.62
9 52% Greek_Thessaly + 48% Southwest_Russian @ 3.63
10 71.2% Ukrainian + 28.8% Cyprian @ 3.71
11 71.6% Bulgarian + 28.4% Polish @ 3.74
12 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Erzya @ 3.75
13 60.6% Ukrainian + 39.4% Central_Greek @ 3.78
14 66.1% Bulgarian + 33.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.81
15 60.8% Greek_Thessaly + 39.2% Lithuanian @ 3.82
16 77.8% Bulgarian + 22.2% Estonian @ 3.86
17 52% Ukrainian + 48% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.86
18 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% South_Polish @ 3.86
19 75.3% Bulgarian + 24.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.88
20 52.2% Central_Greek + 47.8% Lithuanian @ 3.89
Vahaduo distances with the updated spreadsheet:
TE9900594,22.23,32.49,16.54,10.05,17.34,0,0,0.82,0 .23,0,0.3,0,0
Distance to: TE9900594
4.25511457 Serb_CentralCroatia
4.48844071 Bosniak_Southeast
4.51602701 Serb_EastSerbia
4.58307757 Moldovan_South
4.64595523 Moldovan_Central
4.78820426 Croat_Herzegovina
4.85690230 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
4.95510848 Serb_CentralSerbia
4.99370604 Serb_Lika
5.01676190 Serb_SouthSerbia
5.02627098 Romanian_Moldavia_Central
5.13487098 Serb_WestSerbia
5.25337035 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
5.61278897 Serb_Vojvodina
5.69028998 Bosniak_Krajina_West
5.69361924 Serb_Dalmatia
6.20517526 Romanian_Moldavia_North
6.21181938 Vlach_Serbia
6.23982372 Moldovan_North
6.25564545 Croat_Bosnia
6.26453510 Croat_Dalmatia
6.28099514 Croat_Slavonia
6.30042062 Romanian_Crişana
6.39139265 Romanian_Maramureş
6.49609883 Serb_Herzegovina