View Full Version : Any Calculators for Montenegrinness?
Occiput in Starlight
05-07-2023, 11:22 PM
I would like insight as to how Montenegrin I am.
Thank you,
OiS
ScandinavianCelt
05-08-2023, 01:35 PM
It's not a calculator for you directly, but you could take the results and plot these against yourself to get at least some genetic distance information and see some further percentages the montenegro sample(s) line up with that your specific background lines up with. I get these results with the k105 Montenegro sample pitted against the Globe 58 Scaled Average Individuals:
No ADC:
Distance: 0.49857
35.40% Balkan:Serbian
25.40% Balkan:Albanian
21.00% Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
08.20% Balkan:Romanian
07.40% Central_Europe:Czech
02.60% Greece_Cyprus:Greek
.25x ADC
Distance: 0.71374
53.20% Balkan:Serbian
36.40% Balkan:Romanian
08.20% Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
02.20% Balkan:Albanian
.5x ADC
Distance: 0.87089
74.60% Balkan:Serbian
23.80% Balkan:Romanian
01.60% Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
1x ADC
Distance: 1.18429
89.20% Balkan:Serbian
10.00% Balkan:Romanian
00.60% Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
00.20% Balkan:Albanian
2x ADC
Distance: 1.95962
89.20% Balkan:Serbian
10.00% Balkan:Romanian
00.40% Central_Europe:Czech
00.40% Balkan:Albanian
So, you can test yourself against those samples and line up yourself proportionately with what you get from them based on whatever time period you are examining.
The coords for these are found here: https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/145/globe-58-scaled-individuals-calculator-gergo.htm
This is how Montenegro plots against these coords in the link above:
https://i.postimg.cc/MpM71drY/montenegro-pca-globe58scaledindiv3.png (https://postimg.cc/87GfSBGF)
Far_away
05-08-2023, 03:03 PM
Try it https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/38/g25-geneplaza-k29-admixture-calculator.htm
Distance to: Nikola_scaled
0.02401419 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
0.02661215 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Romanian
0.02662964 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian
0.03195058 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Bosnian
0.04868781 Southern-European:Albanian
0.05411120 Southern-European:Greek_Thessaly
0.05846033 Northern-European:NW-Euro-French
0.07465868 Northern-European:NWEuro-English
0.07553137 Eastern-European:East-Slavic-Ukrainian
0.07749200 Northern-European:NWEuro-Scottish
0.07801687 Northern-European:NWEuro-Orcadian
0.08168308 Northern-European:Scandinavian-Swedish
0.08186272 Southern-European:Sicilian_West
0.08257074 Northern-European:Scandinavian-Norwegian
0.08824822 Southern-European:Sicilian_East
0.09276356 Eastern-European:East-Slavic-Belarusian
0.11001463 Eastern-European:Baltic-Lithuanian_VZ
0.11165820 Eastern-European:Baltic-Estonian
0.11942164 Eastern-European:Baltic-Latvian
0.12791372 Southern-European:Sardinian
0.21970188 South-Central-Asian:Balochi
0.22297553 South-Central-Asian:Brahui
0.24094966 North-African:Algerian
0.66069634 Native-American:North-Amerindian-Pima
0.74429749 Oceanian:Papuan_Coastal
Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 2.3399% / 0.02339880
71.6 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
16.2 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Bosnian
7.6 Southern-European:Albanian
2.8 Southern-European:Sardinian
1.8 Southern-European:Greek_Thessaly
Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 2.3464% / 0.02346431 | ADC: 0.25x RC
91.6 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
4.0 Southern-European:Albanian
2.6 Southern-European:Greek_Thessaly
1.8 Southern-European:Sardinian
Occiput in Starlight
05-08-2023, 11:27 PM
Try it https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/38/g25-geneplaza-k29-admixture-calculator.htm
Thanks, man.
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Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.5285% / 0.00528464
79.2 Eastern-European
17.4 Southern-European
3.4 West-Asian
Distance to: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
0.00761038 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian
0.01086787 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
0.01578728 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Romanian
0.01621369 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Bosnian
0.04996622 Southern-European:Albanian
0.05244720 Northern-European:NW-Euro-French
0.05566575 Southern-European:Greek_Thessaly
0.06225630 Eastern-European:East-Slavic-Ukrainian
0.06489245 Northern-European:NWEuro-English
0.06743981 Northern-European:NWEuro-Scottish
0.06759929 Northern-European:NWEuro-Orcadian
0.07014942 Northern-European:Scandinavian-Swedish
0.07301855 Northern-European:Scandinavian-Norwegian
0.07888422 Eastern-European:East-Slavic-Belarusian
0.08342242 Southern-European:Sicilian_West
0.08831218 Southern-European:SWEuro-Basque_Spanish
0.09026257 Southern-European:Sicilian_East
0.09767788 Eastern-European:Baltic-Lithuanian_VZ
0.09870229 Eastern-European:Baltic-Estonian
0.10820700 Eastern-European:Baltic-Latvian
0.11655469 Central-Asian:Tatar_Mishar
0.13237780 Southern-European:Sardinian
0.14836687 West-Asian:Georgian_Jew
0.16419412 West-Asian:Georgian_Imer
0.16515440 West-Asian:Iraqi
Occiput in Starlight
05-08-2023, 11:29 PM
It's not a calculator for you directly, but you could take the results and plot these against yourself to get at least some genetic distance information and see some further percentages the montenegro sample(s) line up with that your specific background lines up with. I get these results with the k105 Montenegro sample pitted against the Globe 58 Scaled Average Individuals:
No ADC:
Distance: 0.49857
35.40% Balkan:Serbian
25.40% Balkan:Albanian
21.00% Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
08.20% Balkan:Romanian
07.40% Central_Europe:Czech
02.60% Greece_Cyprus:Greek
.25x ADC
Distance: 0.71374
53.20% Balkan:Serbian
36.40% Balkan:Romanian
08.20% Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
02.20% Balkan:Albanian
.5x ADC
Distance: 0.87089
74.60% Balkan:Serbian
23.80% Balkan:Romanian
01.60% Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
1x ADC
Distance: 1.18429
89.20% Balkan:Serbian
10.00% Balkan:Romanian
00.60% Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
00.20% Balkan:Albanian
2x ADC
Distance: 1.95962
89.20% Balkan:Serbian
10.00% Balkan:Romanian
00.40% Central_Europe:Czech
00.40% Balkan:Albanian
So, you can test yourself against those samples and line up yourself proportionately with what you get from them based on whatever time period you are examining.
The coords for these are found here: https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/145/globe-58-scaled-individuals-calculator-gergo.htm
This is how Montenegro plots against these coords in the link above:
https://i.postimg.cc/MpM71drY/montenegro-pca-globe58scaledindiv3.png (https://postimg.cc/87GfSBGF)
Thanks for that, appreciated.
Occiput in Starlight
05-08-2023, 11:56 PM
Far_away's calc
Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.6538% / 0.00653833 | ADC: 0.25x RC
97.8 Eastern-European
2.2 Southern-European
MandM
05-09-2023, 12:58 PM
Far_away's calc
Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.6538% / 0.00653833 | ADC: 0.25x RC
97.8 Eastern-European
2.2 Southern-European
Go in singel and press aggregate so it says NO , it wull show more in detail what kinde of eastern europe and South europe just like Far_away's
Occiput in Starlight
05-09-2023, 08:40 PM
Go in singel and press aggregate so it says NO , it wull show more in detail what kinde of eastern europe and South europe just like Far_away's
Legend.
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Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.5287% / 0.00528670
40.4 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian
19.8 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
16.4 Eastern-European:Baltic-Lithuanian_VZ
13.0 Southern-European:Albanian
5.6 Southern-European:Sardinian
3.2 West-Asian:Georgian_Imer
1.6 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Bosnian
Luke35
05-09-2023, 09:41 PM
What do you get when you delete all the source populations from the above calculator, leaving only these two?:
Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin,0.1263436,0.136487,0.039673,0.013889,0 .0318826,0.0074744,0.004512,0.0058612,0.0001228,0. 002515,-0.001429,-0.0006592,-0.000684,0.0105144,-0.0129208,0.0029436,0.0087096,-0.0013428,0.0070894,-0.0012758,-0.0048414,0.0012364,0.005497,0.0016388,0.0007904
Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian,0.1273334,0.137229,0.040024,0.0148299,0.03 14974,0.0045957,0.0048738,0.006672,-0.0011737,-7.9e-06,-0.0022946,-0.001251,0.0034128,0.012434,-0.0128875,-0.0008358,0.0040476,0.0005894,0.0043011,-0.0024468,-0.0083168,-0.0017151,0.0048925,0.000372,-0.0020097
Occiput in Starlight
05-09-2023, 11:45 PM
What do you get when you delete all the source populations from the above calculator, leaving only these two?:
Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin,0.1263436,0.136487,0.039673,0.013889,0 .0318826,0.0074744,0.004512,0.0058612,0.0001228,0. 002515,-0.001429,-0.0006592,-0.000684,0.0105144,-0.0129208,0.0029436,0.0087096,-0.0013428,0.0070894,-0.0012758,-0.0048414,0.0012364,0.005497,0.0016388,0.0007904
Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian,0.1273334,0.137229,0.040024,0.0148299,0.03 14974,0.0045957,0.0048738,0.006672,-0.0011737,-7.9e-06,-0.0022946,-0.001251,0.0034128,0.012434,-0.0128875,-0.0008358,0.0040476,0.0005894,0.0043011,-0.0024468,-0.0083168,-0.0017151,0.0048925,0.000372,-0.0020097
Intriguing.
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Aggregate - No
Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.5287% / 0.00528659
39.4 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian
19.6 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
16.8 Eastern-European:Baltic-Lithuanian_VZ
13.8 Southern-European:Albanian
5.6 Southern-European:Sardinian
3.2 West-Asian:Georgian_Imer
1.6 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Bosnian
Occiput in Starlight
05-09-2023, 11:53 PM
What do you get when you delete all the source populations from the above calculator, leaving only these two?:
Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin,0.1263436,0.136487,0.039673,0.013889,0 .0318826,0.0074744,0.004512,0.0058612,0.0001228,0. 002515,-0.001429,-0.0006592,-0.000684,0.0105144,-0.0129208,0.0029436,0.0087096,-0.0013428,0.0070894,-0.0012758,-0.0048414,0.0012364,0.005497,0.0016388,0.0007904
Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian,0.1273334,0.137229,0.040024,0.0148299,0.03 14974,0.0045957,0.0048738,0.006672,-0.0011737,-7.9e-06,-0.0022946,-0.001251,0.0034128,0.012434,-0.0128875,-0.0008358,0.0040476,0.0005894,0.0043011,-0.0024468,-0.0083168,-0.0017151,0.0048925,0.000372,-0.0020097
I tried it again. I think I did it right this time, maybe. Aggregate - No.
Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7092% / 0.00709238
74.8 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian
25.2 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
Luke35
05-10-2023, 12:13 AM
I tried it again. I think I did it right this time, maybe. Aggregate - No.
Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7092% / 0.00709238
74.8 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian
25.2 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
Yes, my thought was to use only these two, just to see how much you favor one versus the other.
There is a Montenegrin shift -- your Serbianness (did I spell that right?) is not without Montenegrinness.
Occiput in Starlight
05-10-2023, 12:37 AM
Yes, my thought was to use only these two, just to see how much you favor one versus the other.
There is a Montenegrin shift -- your Serbianness (did I spell that right?) is not without Montenegrinness.
I will now isolate the Albanian and the Montenegrin rows and just run those. See what happens. Hopefully something scandalous.
Far_away
05-10-2023, 11:34 AM
What do you get when you delete all the source populations from the above calculator, leaving only these two?:
Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin,0.1263436,0.136487,0.039673,0.013889,0 .0318826,0.0074744,0.004512,0.0058612,0.0001228,0. 002515,-0.001429,-0.0006592,-0.000684,0.0105144,-0.0129208,0.0029436,0.0087096,-0.0013428,0.0070894,-0.0012758,-0.0048414,0.0012364,0.005497,0.0016388,0.0007904
Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian,0.1273334,0.137229,0.040024,0.0148299,0.03 14974,0.0045957,0.0048738,0.006672,-0.0011737,-7.9e-06,-0.0022946,-0.001251,0.0034128,0.012434,-0.0128875,-0.0008358,0.0040476,0.0005894,0.0043011,-0.0024468,-0.0083168,-0.0017151,0.0048925,0.000372,-0.0020097
that was fun lol
Distance: 2.4014% / 0.02401419
100.0 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
alexmegas777
05-10-2023, 08:05 PM
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.8356% / 0.02835597
54.6 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian
45.4 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
can i join the serbian-montenegrin brotherhood lol
Occiput in Starlight
05-10-2023, 09:45 PM
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.8356% / 0.02835597
54.6 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian
45.4 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
can i join the serbian-montenegrin brotherhood lol
Dobrodošli.
Far_away
05-10-2023, 11:00 PM
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.8356% / 0.02835597
54.6 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Serbian
45.4 Eastern-European:South-Slavic-Montenegrin
can i join the serbian-montenegrin brotherhood lol
welcome brother
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