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BlackBeastofArgh
05-09-2023, 03:49 AM
https://arquidiocesismexico.org.mx/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/norberto.jpg https://astrolabio.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Norberto-Rivera.jpg https://www.infobae.com/new-resizer/e5RMcn8ZU5rL3gdmILJzNJfMALI=/992x558/filters:format(webp):quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/infobae/WBEGXYSX7JEL5FBSRCHWTTUK4Y.jpg https://c8.alamy.com/zoomses/9/f9cfe7437d124aa98c03d2fd09f1b694/kjy4bp.jpg https://cdn1.img.sputniknews.lat/img/106354/46/1063544608_415:0:2815:2400_1400x0_80_0_0_d141bc17a 4c09ad12867034b610361e0.jpg https://dam.tbg.com.mx/content/dam/tbg/mexico/caras/mx/personalidades/17/06/14/212ca100mxabr101-3.jpg.imgo.jpg https://desdelafe.mx/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/norberto-rivera-juan-pablo-ii.jpg.webp

As a young seminarist, third from right:
https://desdelafe.mx/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/norberto-rivera-seminarista-roma.jpg https://desdelafe.mx/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/cantamisa-norberto-rivera.jpg.webp

With his parents:
https://www.elsoldemexico.com.mx/incoming/caulur-norberto-rivera-carrera-joven.jpg/ALTERNATES/FREE_768/norberto%20rivera%20carrera%20joven.jpg

His parents in old age:
https://desdelafe.mx/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/padres-norberto-rivera.jpg.webp
Laredo
05-09-2023, 04:09 AM
Alpine med + centralid
BlackBeastofArgh
05-09-2023, 04:31 AM
Alpine med + centralid

Thanks for your classification. What do you think his proportion of Euro and Amerindian ancestry would be?

My initial impression of him is harnizo with a strong Berid component.
Laredo
05-09-2023, 04:47 AM
Thanks for your classification. What do you think his proportion of Euro and Amerindian ancestry would be?

My initial impression of him is harnizo with a strong Berid component.

In some photos looks more harnizo others more balance I would say looks like 55-60% European for sure and rest native.
BlackBeastofArgh
05-10-2023, 04:51 AM
In some photos looks more harnizo others more balance I would say looks like 55-60% European for sure and rest native.

I can kind of see that. I still think he might be more harnizo-leaning.

How would you classify his parents? His father strikes me as a balanced mestizo (nose and eyes clearly have Amerindian influence, and perhaps his ear shape too, but his skin tone seems to me to be within the Spanish range, even if at the dark end of it), while his mother strikes me as a castiza (I think she could almost pass in Spain). If my classifications are correct, that would put the ex-Archbishop at the higher end of the harnizo range (62.5% Euro and 37.5% Amerindian).
Laredo
05-10-2023, 04:54 AM
I can kind of see that. I still think he might be more harnizo-leaning.

How would you classify his parents? His father strikes me as a balanced mestizo (nose and eyes clearly have Amerindian influence, and perhaps his ear shape too, but his skin tone seems to me to be within the Spanish range, even if at the dark end of it), while his mother strikes me as a castiza (I think she could almost pass in Spain). If my classifications are correct, that would put the ex-Archbishop at the higher end of the harnizo range (62.5% Euro and 37.5% Amerindian).

You are absolutely right about his parents, dad looks balance mestizo atlanto med +pueblid native mother looks very very Spanish at least no less 75%